From Majordomo@dione.zcu.cz Sat Mar 11 00:34:13 2000 Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 23:34:09 +0100 From: Majordomo@dione.zcu.cz To: jk@jikos.jikos.cz Subject: Majordomo file: list 'caj' file 'caj.9904' -- >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Apr 2 15:32:21 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA21799; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 15:32:21 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA21796 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 15:32:19 +0200 Received: from ms.globe.cz (ms.globe.cz [212.27.196.28]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA31424 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 15:32:15 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from post@localhost) by ms.globe.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA27452; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 15:32:14 +0200 Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 15:32:14 +0200 Message-Id: <199904021332.PAA27452@ms.globe.cz> To: caj@dione.zcu.cz From: mudrcmann@post.cz X-mailer: POST.CZ mailer v1.1 Subject: Caj: Ovonene caje Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Caj v Dusi. Posledni dobou jsem si vsiml, ze mam zvlastni uchylku na ovonene caje. Ale bohuzel vychutnani takovehoto caje mi zneprijemnuje pocit, ze behem procesu "navoneni", caj traci svoji puvodni kvalitu. Budu velice rad, kdyz mi nekdo potvrdi, ci vyvrati moji domnenku. A budu jeste vice rad, kdyz mi nekdo rekne jak toto ovoneni provadet doma. Trebaze mam caj na noc dat do lotosoveho kvetu atd... Predem dekuji Caj s vama. mudrcmann >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Sat Apr 3 19:15:56 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA24653; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 19:15:56 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA24650 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 19:15:52 +0200 Received: from diana.nemcb.cz (IDENT:root@diana.nemcb.cz [62.168.20.65]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA12067 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 19:15:51 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from onkola.nemcb.cz ([194.212.158.253]) by diana.nemcb.cz (8.9.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id SAA14189 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 18:15:38 +0200 Message-ID: <003001be7df5$58c33440$fd9ed4c2@onkola.nemcb.cz> From: "=?iso-8859-2?B?S3JvdWztayBUb23huSBNVURyLg==?=" To: Subject: Caj: =?iso-8859-2?B?yGFqOiBQ+O1wcmF2YQ==?= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 19:13:49 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Dobrý den, ráno či noc všem Milcům čaje Rád bych poprosil nějakou dobrou duši, která by mi zdělila postup při přípravě těchto čajů: TIE GUYAN JIN (železná bohyně milosrdenství), SHUI XIAN(vodní víla), PU-ERH, SHOU MEI(obočí dlouhého věku), YUNNAN LU, DARJEELING, PAI MU TAN(bílá pivoňka) Myslím tím dávkování, teplotu vody, délku louhování apod. Řídím se pouze všeobecnými údaji o přípravě čaje (zeleného, černého apod.) a i přes různé eperimenty mám pocit, že nedosahuji možného maxima. Prosím pomožte. Usnadníte mi život. Díky ZED kroulik@nemcb.cz >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Apr 5 22:31:59 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA29249; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 22:31:59 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA29246 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 22:31:56 +0200 Received: from conan.asysijd.cz (mailexim@server.asysijd.cz [195.75.66.161]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA28432 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 22:31:56 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from kol-dial14.asysijd.cz (asysijd.cz) [195.75.66.24] by conan.asysijd.cz with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1 (Debian)) id 10UG2P-0000wV-00; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 22:32:06 +0200 Message-ID: <37091D75.D59EC54E@asysijd.cz> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 22:30:45 +0200 From: Jan Bourek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: - Cajovy Dychanek - Subject: Caj: Widen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Bore da, dnes jsem se vratil z Palavy a Podyji, mezitim jsme byli na nedeli ve Widni. Videl jsem tam prekrasnou cajovou konvicku. Bylo to v jedny z tech nejdrazsich ulic, jakasi cinska restaurace. Konvicka byla ve vyloze. Byla naruzovela, s jemnou kresbou, k ni patril kalisek s tackem, vse v ruzovem nadechu. Krasa. Pak jsem nasel vylohu Imperial Tea House nebo tak nejak. Bylo tam proste vse co patri k caji: konvicky, caje, misky, kreslo, vahy a taky velika kniha o cajich v nemcine. Ovsem byla to format A4 a tlusta asi 12 cm. Taky tam byl obchudek se zajimavyma dymkama, normal i water. Krasny. *JB* >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Apr 6 10:11:45 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA30621; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:11:45 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA30618 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:11:44 +0200 From: SEVEROVA@gytool.cz Received: from power.ol.cesnet.cz ([194.212.160.147]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA05440 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:11:43 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mailer.gytool.cz (gh-2.gytool.cz [194.212.37.22]) by power.ol.cesnet.cz (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id LAA14942 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:11:15 +0200 (DFT) Received: from GH-2/SpoolDir by mailer.gytool.cz (Mercury 1.44); 6 Apr 99 10:11:42 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by GH-2 (Mercury 1.44); 6 Apr 99 10:11:23 +0200 Organization: Gymnazium v Olomouci-Hejcine, CZ To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:11:20 MET +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Caj: Ovonene caje X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.40 Message-ID: <234438E4E73@mailer.gytool.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Nevim jestli caj ovonenim ztraci kvalitu. Nema proc. On se jen na urcitou dobu da dohromady s necim vonavym a je to. Aspon si to tak nejak zjednodusene myslim. A nenech si kazit chut. Proc si davat neco, co ti chutna mene? Jen proto, ze je to klasika? To snad ne.....SASA > Caj v Dusi. > > Posledni dobou jsem si vsiml, ze mam zvlastni uchylku na ovonene caje. Ale bohuzel vychutnani takovehoto caje mi > zneprijemnuje pocit, ze behem procesu "navoneni", caj traci svoji puvodni kvalitu. Budu velice rad, kdyz mi nekdo potvrdi, ci vyvrati moji domnenku. > > A budu jeste vice rad, kdyz mi nekdo rekne jak toto ovoneni provadet doma. Trebaze mam caj na noc dat do lotosoveho kvetu atd... > > Predem dekuji > > Caj s vama. > mudrcmann > > > >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Apr 6 10:29:19 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA30755; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:29:19 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA30752 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:29:18 +0200 Received: from ns.felk.cvut.cz (ns.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.9]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA05471 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:29:17 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sun (sun.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.32]) by ns.felk.cvut.cz (8.9.2/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA58765 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:29:16 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sun45.felk.cvut.cz by sun (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14760; Tue, 6 Apr 99 10:29:15 +0200 Received: by sun45.felk.cvut.cz (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28167; Tue, 6 Apr 99 10:29:15 +0200 Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:29:14 +0200 (MET DST) From: Tregner Vaclav student 6_98_99 k336 X-Sender: xtregner@sun45 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Ovonene caje In-Reply-To: <234438E4E73@mailer.gytool.cz> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Mne se spis zda, ze vune a chut te prisady co se do caje pridava, je natolik silna, ze prebije vlastni vuni a chut caje, a proto se muze zdat ze caj ztraci svou kvalitu. Nevim, ale myslim si ze na ovonene caje se take nepouziva ten nejkvalitnejsi caj. Proc taky pouzivat velmi kvalitni (a drahy) caj kdyz jeho delikatni chut a vune bude stejne prebita? Ale v zasade nic proti ovonenym cajum nemam. Nekdy mam proste chut na to jindy na ono. Vasek Mimochodem zkousel jste nekdo si vyrobit vlastni ovoneny caj? On Tue, 6 Apr 1999 SEVEROVA@gytool.cz wrote: > Nevim jestli caj ovonenim ztraci kvalitu. Nema proc. > On se jen na urcitou dobu da dohromady s necim vonavym a je to. Aspon > si to tak nejak zjednodusene myslim. A nenech si kazit chut. Proc si > davat neco, co ti chutna mene? Jen proto, ze je to klasika? To snad > ne.....SASA > > > Caj v Dusi. > > > > Posledni dobou jsem si vsiml, ze mam zvlastni uchylku na ovonene caje. Ale bohuzel vychutnani takovehoto caje mi > > zneprijemnuje pocit, ze behem procesu "navoneni", caj traci svoji puvodni kvalitu. Budu velice rad, kdyz mi nekdo potvrdi, ci vyvrati moji domnenku. > > > > A budu jeste vice rad, kdyz mi nekdo rekne jak toto ovoneni provadet doma. Trebaze mam caj na noc dat do lotosoveho kvetu atd... > > > > Predem dekuji > > > > Caj s vama. > > mudrcmann > > > > > > > >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Apr 6 10:47:41 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA30948; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:47:41 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA30945 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:47:41 +0200 From: SEVEROVA@gytool.cz Received: from power.ol.cesnet.cz ([194.212.160.147]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA07210 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:47:40 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mailer.gytool.cz (gh-2.gytool.cz [194.212.37.22]) by power.ol.cesnet.cz (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id LAA50398 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:47:13 +0200 (DFT) Received: from GH-2/SpoolDir by mailer.gytool.cz (Mercury 1.44); 6 Apr 99 10:47:35 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by GH-2 (Mercury 1.44); 6 Apr 99 10:47:26 +0200 Organization: Gymnazium v Olomouci-Hejcine, CZ To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:47:19 MET +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Caj: Ovonene caje X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.40 Message-ID: <234DD614B4D@mailer.gytool.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Vlastni ovoneny caj jsem nezkousela. Asi je pravda, ze kdyz si koupim kvalitni "cisty"caj, tak nemam potrebu ho "dodelavat". Ale souhlasim s tim, ze chute jsou i u jednoho cloveka ruzne. Zrovna vcera jsem se mohla zblaznit, dosla mi smes Kasmir. A jindy po ni ani nevzdechnu. Pokud nekdo ma zkusenost s vyrobou ovonencu, poslete mi taky radu. Dik SASA > Mne se spis zda, ze vune a chut te prisady co se do caje pridava, je > natolik silna, ze prebije vlastni vuni a chut caje, a proto se muze zdat > ze caj ztraci svou kvalitu. Nevim, ale myslim si ze na ovonene caje se > take nepouziva ten nejkvalitnejsi caj. Proc taky pouzivat velmi kvalitni > (a drahy) caj kdyz jeho delikatni chut a vune bude stejne prebita? > > Ale v zasade nic proti ovonenym cajum nemam. Nekdy mam proste chut na to > jindy na ono. > > Vasek > > Mimochodem zkousel jste nekdo si vyrobit vlastni ovoneny caj? > > >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Apr 6 11:09:47 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA31043; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:09:47 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA31040 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:09:46 +0200 Received: from kiv.zcu.cz (ur404p01-rek.rek.zcu.cz [147.228.71.108]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA08279; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:09:44 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3709CF59.19CE9DF0@kiv.zcu.cz> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 11:09:45 +0200 From: Pavel Baxa Organization: ZCU Plzen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: cs,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Ovonene caje References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Tregner Vaclav student 6_98_99 k336 wrote: > Mimochodem zkousel jste nekdo si vyrobit vlastni ovoneny caj? Prave na tom pracuju. Koupil jsem si v nejakem navalu krve do hlavy "gruzinsky caj". Chtel jsem otestovat, jestli ma porad tak mizernou chut jako driv. Ma. Takze jsem milou gruzii rozdelil do dvou nadob, do jedne jsem pridal badyan a do druhe polozil navrch otevrenou misticku s Baileys. Takze bud mi vznikne "Vzpominka na Pardubice" a neco jako "Irish Cream", nebo to splachnu do zachoda a nebude mi to lito (snad jen toho Baileys). Pavel B. >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Apr 6 11:27:21 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA31127; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:27:21 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA31124 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:27:20 +0200 Received: from ns.felk.cvut.cz (ns.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.9]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA08431 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:27:18 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sun (sun.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.32]) by ns.felk.cvut.cz (8.9.2/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA66192 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:27:17 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sun45.felk.cvut.cz by sun (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15097; Tue, 6 Apr 99 11:27:17 +0200 Received: by sun45.felk.cvut.cz (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28408; Tue, 6 Apr 99 11:27:14 +0200 Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:27:13 +0200 (MET DST) From: Tregner Vaclav student 6_98_99 k336 X-Sender: xtregner@sun45 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Ovonene caje In-Reply-To: <3709CF59.19CE9DF0@kiv.zcu.cz> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Tak dej vedet jak si dopad. On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Pavel Baxa wrote: > Tregner Vaclav student 6_98_99 k336 wrote: > > Mimochodem zkousel jste nekdo si vyrobit vlastni ovoneny caj? > > Prave na tom pracuju. > Koupil jsem si v nejakem navalu krve do hlavy "gruzinsky caj". > Chtel jsem otestovat, jestli ma porad tak mizernou chut jako driv. > Ma. > Takze jsem milou gruzii rozdelil do dvou nadob, do jedne jsem > pridal badyan a do druhe polozil navrch otevrenou misticku s Baileys. > Takze bud mi vznikne "Vzpominka na Pardubice" a neco jako "Irish Cream", > nebo to splachnu do zachoda a nebude mi to lito (snad jen toho Baileys). > > Pavel B. > >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Apr 6 12:01:46 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA31354; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 12:01:46 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA31351 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 12:01:45 +0200 From: SEVEROVA@gytool.cz Received: from power.ol.cesnet.cz ([194.212.160.147]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA04895 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 12:01:45 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mailer.gytool.cz (gh-2.gytool.cz [194.212.37.22]) by power.ol.cesnet.cz (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id NAA30254 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:01:16 +0200 (DFT) Received: from GH-2/SpoolDir by mailer.gytool.cz (Mercury 1.44); 6 Apr 99 12:01:38 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by GH-2 (Mercury 1.44); 6 Apr 99 12:01:15 +0200 Organization: Gymnazium v Olomouci-Hejcine, CZ To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 12:01:11 MET +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Caj: Ovonene caje X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.40 Message-ID: <236186C174B@mailer.gytool.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ja jen poznamku k tomo gruzinskemu caji. Byla jsem osobne v Gruzii na cajovych plantazich, prohlidka byla i s ochutnavkou. Podavali tam caj HODNE silny a HODNE sladky. A nemel chybu. Tak nevim, co to prodavaji tady a nebo to spatne pripravujeme. Ja jsem zkousela tento caj doma presne tak jako v Gruzii. Samovar, zvlast vyluh. Docela se to blizilo, ale ja nemuzu tak sladke. SASA > Tregner Vaclav student 6_98_99 k336 wrote: > > Mimochodem zkousel jste nekdo si vyrobit vlastni ovoneny caj? > > Prave na tom pracuju. > Koupil jsem si v nejakem navalu krve do hlavy "gruzinsky caj". > Chtel jsem otestovat, jestli ma porad tak mizernou chut jako driv. > Ma. > Takze jsem milou gruzii rozdelil do dvou nadob, do jedne jsem > pridal badyan a do druhe polozil navrch otevrenou misticku s Baileys. > Takze bud mi vznikne "Vzpominka na Pardubice" a neco jako "Irish Cream", > nebo to splachnu do zachoda a nebude mi to lito (snad jen toho Baileys). > > Pavel B. > >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Apr 6 12:19:54 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA31506; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 12:19:54 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA31503 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 12:19:53 +0200 Received: from kiv.zcu.cz (ur404p01-rek.rek.zcu.cz [147.228.71.108]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA11608; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 12:19:52 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3709DFCA.F25AE9C0@kiv.zcu.cz> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 12:19:54 +0200 From: Pavel Baxa Organization: ZCU Plzen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: cs,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Ovonene caje References: <236186C174B@mailer.gytool.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz SEVEROVA@gytool.cz wrote: > > Ja jen poznamku k tomo gruzinskemu caji. Byla jsem osobne v Gruzii na > cajovych plantazich, prohlidka byla i s ochutnavkou. Podavali tam caj > HODNE silny a HODNE sladky. A nemel chybu. Tak nevim, co to prodavaji > tady a nebo to spatne pripravujeme. Ja jsem zkousela tento caj doma > presne tak jako v Gruzii. Samovar, zvlast vyluh. Docela se to > blizilo, ale ja nemuzu tak sladke. SASA Nekdy si rikam, ze gruzinak je primo URCEN k piti s cukrem nebo marmeladou. Pavel B. >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Apr 6 15:04:20 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA32281; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:04:20 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA32278 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:04:18 +0200 Received: from kanec.linux (kanec.plemdat.czn.cz [194.213.228.200]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA21065 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:03:41 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from milan (milan.plemdat.czn.cz [223.45.6.152]) by kanec.linux (8.8.5/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id PAA31602 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:04:53 +0200 Message-ID: <002a01be802d$ef4a7330$98062ddf@milan> From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Milan_=C8ervenka?=" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Ovonene caje Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:03:58 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ba, ba, gruzii jenom s cukrem, varenjim a pirohama. K tomu ten caj presne je. Je to jeden z caju, ktery musim furt mit doma. K vonavkam: delal jsem si doma badyanovej caj z assamskyho brokenu. Rozmlatil sem kladivem badyan (jeden sacek) v satku a pak nasypal do prachovnice spolu s 100g assamu - je z toho celkem dobry caj, zvlast s medem. Pri domaci vyrobe mam jistotu, ze v tom nejsou zadny umely humusny ochucovadla. Nejvetsi humus co se ochucenejch tyce, jsou ovoneny cinsky senchy (japonsky se takhle nekazej), uz sam o sobe je ten caj o nicem a kdyz se do toho naleje treba tresnova trest (Sencha cherry) tak je to kentus na osmou. My zene to chutna, ale ja to mel jen jedenkrat a uz bych to nereprizoval. Jo jinak vsem vrele doporucuju Formosa Oolong Dung-Ti, to je ted moje vrcholne posusnanicko. Je sice drazzsi (asi 240Kc/100g), ale bohate se mi odvdecil 15 nalevy (pri zpusobu kung-fu). V Kristu Milan ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Koukni se na stranku o caji: http://www.angelfire.com/ga/caj/caj.html nebo o umeni: http://www.mujweb.cz/www/artpoetry/index.htm -AdHOnoreJesus!- -----Původní zpráva----- Od: Pavel Baxa Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz Datum: 6. dubna 1999 12:27 Předmět: Re: Caj: Ovonene caje > >SEVEROVA@gytool.cz wrote: >> >> Ja jen poznamku k tomo gruzinskemu caji. Byla jsem osobne v Gruzii na >> cajovych plantazich, prohlidka byla i s ochutnavkou. Podavali tam caj >> HODNE silny a HODNE sladky. A nemel chybu. Tak nevim, co to prodavaji >> tady a nebo to spatne pripravujeme. Ja jsem zkousela tento caj doma >> presne tak jako v Gruzii. Samovar, zvlast vyluh. Docela se to >> blizilo, ale ja nemuzu tak sladke. SASA > >Nekdy si rikam, ze gruzinak je primo URCEN k piti s cukrem nebo >marmeladou. > > Pavel B. >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Apr 7 09:21:04 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA02457; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:21:04 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA02454 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:21:03 +0200 Received: from juno.fek.zcu.cz (juno.fek.zcu.cz [147.228.190.20]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA10631 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:21:00 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from noe.fek.zcu.cz (noe.fek.zcu.cz [147.228.190.5]) by juno.fek.zcu.cz with ESMTP id JAA20000 (8.8.8/IDA-1.7); Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:20:40 +0200 Received: from NOE/SpoolDir by noe.fek.zcu.cz (Mercury 1.43); 7 Apr 99 09:13:21 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by NOE (Mercury 1.43); 7 Apr 99 09:13:01 +0100 From: "Michal Dlouhy" Organization: Faculty of Economics, Cheb To: "Milan Eervenka" , caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:12:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Caj: Ovonene caje X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.40 Message-ID: <13DA3ED27F20@noe.fek.zcu.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Nejvetsi humus co se ochucenejch tyce, jsou ovoneny cinsky senchy (japonsky > se takhle nekazej), uz sam o sobe je ten caj o nicem a kdyz se do toho > naleje treba tresnova trest (Sencha cherry) tak je to kentus na osmou. My > zene to chutna, ale ja to mel jen jedenkrat a uz bych to nereprizoval. Ba ba, hoci ja chutnal len SENCHA VANILLA, ale hned to musilo ven. MCm. Michal DLouhy >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Apr 7 11:39:32 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA02910; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:39:32 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA02907 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:39:31 +0200 Received: from juno.fek.zcu.cz (juno.fek.zcu.cz [147.228.190.20]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA16614 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:39:31 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from noe.fek.zcu.cz (noe.fek.zcu.cz [147.228.190.5]) by juno.fek.zcu.cz with ESMTP id LAA22474 (8.8.8/IDA-1.7 for ); Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:39:39 +0200 Received: from NOE/SpoolDir by noe.fek.zcu.cz (Mercury 1.43); 7 Apr 99 11:32:17 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by NOE (Mercury 1.43); 7 Apr 99 11:31:53 +0100 From: "Martin KOZEL" Organization: Faculty of Economics, Cheb To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:31:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Caj: Ovonene caje X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.40 Message-ID: <13DC8F7B17C8@noe.fek.zcu.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Nejvetsi humus co se ochucenejch tyce, jsou ovoneny cinsky senchy (japonsky > se takhle nekazej), uz sam o sobe je ten caj o nicem a kdyz se do toho > naleje treba tresnova trest (Sencha cherry) tak je to kentus na osmou. My > zene to chutna, ale ja to mel jen jedenkrat a uz bych to nereprizoval. > Ba ba, hoci ja chutnal len SENCHA VANILLA, ale hned to musilo ven. To je vono, co to dneska je ? Ovonenj caj, to vubec nechapu. Proc nezustat u praveho dobreho caje ? Copak potrebuje takhle kazit ? Nechci teda rejpat, ale radsi bych snesl i MALE PIVO lip, nezli ovoneny caj a to je co rict. Jednou sem pil ovocnej jahodovej , a byl sem chvilku .... to se neda rict >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Apr 7 13:08:08 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA03299; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:08:08 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from eros.zcu.cz (eros.zcu.cz [147.228.1.10]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA03296 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:08:07 +0200 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by eros.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA15904 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:08:07 +0200 Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA32128 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:08:07 +0200 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 7 Apr 99 13:08:06 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 7 Apr 99 13:07:57 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:07:52 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Ovonene caje X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <3F6F726945@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > To je vono, co to dneska je ? > Ovonenj caj, to vubec nechapu. Proc nezustat u praveho dobreho caje ? > Copak potrebuje takhle kazit ? > Nechci teda rejpat, ale radsi bych snesl i MALE PIVO lip, nezli > ovoneny caj a to je co rict. > Jednou sem pil ovocnej jahodovej , a byl sem chvilku .... > to se neda rict Co je tedy Earl Grey? Co je tedy genmaicha? Ze by v tom druhem pripade rostl na strome caj s prazenou ryzi? Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Apr 7 13:58:31 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA03665; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:58:31 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA03662 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:58:30 +0200 From: LToman@zivpo.cz Received: from zp999a.zivpo.cz (ms.zivpo.cz [195.146.106.228]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA21417 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:58:27 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by ms.zivpo.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <23P546H3>; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:58:24 +0200 Message-ID: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A39015705B8@PUEX1C1> To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: RE: Caj: Ovonene caje Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:58:00 +0200 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > To je vono, co to dneska je ? > > Ovonenj caj, to vubec nechapu. Proc nezustat u praveho > dobreho caje ? > > Copak potrebuje takhle kazit ? > > Nechci teda rejpat, ale radsi bych snesl i MALE PIVO lip, nezli > > ovoneny caj a to je co rict. > > Jednou sem pil ovocnej jahodovej , a byl sem chvilku .... > > to se neda rict > > Co je tedy Earl Grey? Co je tedy genmaicha? Ze by v tom > druhem pripade > rostl na strome caj s prazenou ryzi? Earl Grey je ovonenej nejakou silici... alespon mam ten dojem. A Genmaicha mezi toto nelze pripojit, nebot to je smes caje a prazene ryze. Galenius >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Apr 7 14:09:42 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA03744; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:09:42 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA03741 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:09:41 +0200 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA21203 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:09:40 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA08664 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:09:40 +0200 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 7 Apr 99 14:09:40 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 7 Apr 99 14:09:11 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:09:04 +100 Subject: RE: Caj: Ovonene caje X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <4074B457B8@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > > To je vono, co to dneska je ? > > > Ovonenj caj, to vubec nechapu. Proc nezustat u praveho > > dobreho caje ? > > > Copak potrebuje takhle kazit ? > > > Nechci teda rejpat, ale radsi bych snesl i MALE PIVO lip, nezli > > > ovoneny caj a to je co rict. > > > Jednou sem pil ovocnej jahodovej , a byl sem chvilku .... > > > to se neda rict > > > > Co je tedy Earl Grey? Co je tedy genmaicha? Ze by v tom > > druhem pripade > > rostl na strome caj s prazenou ryzi? > > Earl Grey je ovonenej nejakou silici... alespon mam ten dojem. A Genmaicha > mezi toto nelze pripojit, nebot to je smes caje a prazene ryze. Nicmene v principu jde o totez. Vezmu caj a neco do nej pridam. Po urcite dobe z nej to neco bud vyndam a nebo to tam necham (Genmaicha, Ptaci jazycek apod.). Popravde krom vyse zminovanych take ovonene caje nemusim, ale kdo si na nich pochutna...inu, proc ne. Jen by mel rozlisovat, je-li to caj (tedy cajovnik) nebo vyvar (pripadne vyluh). Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Apr 7 14:21:29 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA03970; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:21:29 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA03967 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:21:29 +0200 From: LToman@zivpo.cz Received: from zp999a.zivpo.cz (ms.zivpo.cz [195.146.106.228]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA23272 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:21:28 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by ms.zivpo.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <23P5462L>; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:21:27 +0200 Message-ID: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A39015705B9@PUEX1C1> To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: RE: Caj: Ovonene caje Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:21:03 +0200 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Z Genmaichy nic nevyndavas... Tam tu ryzi nechavas... Galenius >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Apr 7 14:43:06 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA04157; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:43:06 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA04154 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:43:05 +0200 Received: from kanec.linux (kanec.plemdat.czn.cz [194.213.228.200]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA23170 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:43:01 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from milan (milan.plemdat.czn.cz [223.45.6.152]) by kanec.linux (8.8.5/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id OAA04711 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:43:58 +0200 Message-ID: <004801be80f4$2ce39340$98062ddf@milan> From: "=?iso-8859-2?Q?Milan_=C8ervenka?=" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Ovonene caje Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:43:01 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz jasne, earl je nasaklej bergamotovou silici (olejem, jestli se nepletu) - to este jde, jeho zelena mutace je vsak uz opravdu des. Genmaicha je smes o ty tu nejde. Tady se pomlouvaj opravdovy kentusy do kterejch se lejou stejny synteticky humusy jako do jogurtu, zmrzlin atd., rika se tomu -prirodne identicke aroma-.:-) Jasminovy caje vyssich trid se vyrabej ze slusnejsich zelenaku a z opravdovyho jasminu. Sem asi uchyl, ale nekdy nepohrdnu Li-zhi ci Ruzovym cajem. V Kristu Milan ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Koukni se na stranku o caji: http://www.angelfire.com/ga/caj/caj.html nebo o umeni: http://www.mujweb.cz/www/artpoetry/index.htm -AdHOnoreJesus!- -----Původní zpráva----- Od: LToman@zivpo.cz Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz Datum: 7. dubna 1999 14:15 Předmět: RE: Caj: Ovonene caje >> > To je vono, co to dneska je ? >> > Ovonenj caj, to vubec nechapu. Proc nezustat u praveho >> dobreho caje ? >> > Copak potrebuje takhle kazit ? >> > Nechci teda rejpat, ale radsi bych snesl i MALE PIVO lip, nezli >> > ovoneny caj a to je co rict. >> > Jednou sem pil ovocnej jahodovej , a byl sem chvilku .... >> > to se neda rict >> >> Co je tedy Earl Grey? Co je tedy genmaicha? Ze by v tom >> druhem pripade >> rostl na strome caj s prazenou ryzi? > >Earl Grey je ovonenej nejakou silici... alespon mam ten dojem. A Genmaicha >mezi toto nelze pripojit, nebot to je smes caje a prazene ryze. > > Galenius >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Apr 7 15:35:18 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA04316; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:35:18 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA04313 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:35:17 +0200 Received: from dahlia.mendelu.cz (dahlia.mendelu.cz [195.178.72.10]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA26423 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:35:17 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from dahlia.mendelu.cz (dahlia.mendelu.cz [195.178.72.10]) by dahlia.mendelu.cz (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id PAA05696 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:31:02 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:31:02 +0200 (MET DST) From: Ivo Jancik To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Kokeicha In-Reply-To: <004801be80f4$2ce39340$98062ddf@milan> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Dobry den pozivacum caje. Chci se s Vami podelit o jeden zpusob pripravy caje, o nemz si nejsem jist, zda je spravny -- slyselt jsem jej totizto toliko z jedineho zdroje. Druhdy jsem si pri navsteve olomoucke Drevene panny zakoupil mistni vazeny Kokeicha a veskrze vstricny mlady prodavac mi sdelil tajemstvi spravne pripravy teto zvlastni materie. Totiz -- jelikoz se jedna o lisovany caj sekany do jehel, je treba k uvolneni silic a katechinu v jehlach obsazenych tyto v horke vode za louhovani a cajovych latek extrahovani promnout, nejlepe tak, ze jehlice umistene v sterilnim filtrovnim sacku po nasati vody nekolikrate stlacime, kterymzto zpusobem se jehlice rozdroli na kasi a voda se dostane i do jejich outrob, odkudz vydoluje dotcene latky. Jelikoz nejsem majitelem jednorazovych filtrovnich sacku, resim situaci takto: Do vyhrate sklenky se silnymi stenami dam primerene mnoztvi cajovych jehel, preliji je vodou patricne teploty tak, aby byla hladina asi dva az tri milimetry nad jehlami, pak brutalne drtim jehly o steny cajovou lzici, az vznikne hmota, kterou pracovne nazyvam Zelene blato. Nato hmotu sliji do vyhrate konvicky, priliji mnozstvi horke vody, pro ktere byl caj urcen, a louhuji tak, aby soucet dob pobytu jehel ve vode dal dobou, po kterou zamyslim caj vystavovat louhovacimu procesu. Blato se mezitim castecne usadi na dne konvice, hotovy caj opatrne sleji do cilove treti konvicky urcene k popijeni pres soupravu hustych sitek, aby vetsina blata nesla do nalevu. Nalev je silny, nepruhledny, dobry. Co na to prisedici cajomilove? Ivos. ------------------------------ jancik@mendelu.cz http://dahlia.mendelu.cz/~jancik >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Apr 7 17:51:13 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA05099; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:51:13 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from eros.zcu.cz (eros.zcu.cz [147.228.1.10]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA05096 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:51:11 +0200 From: kpostran@students.zcu.cz Received: from lili.pef.zcu.cz (lili.pef.zcu.cz [147.228.168.6]) by eros.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA23507; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:51:11 +0200 Received: from LILI/SpoolDir by lili.pef.zcu.cz (Mercury 1.43); 7 Apr 99 17:51:11 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by LILI (Mercury 1.43); 7 Apr 99 17:51:03 +0100 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz, caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:51:00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Caj: Ovonene caje X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.41 (NDS, preview) Message-ID: <1E9259C1468@lili.pef.zcu.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz On 2 Apr 99 at 15:32, mudrcmann@post.cz wrote: > Date sent: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 15:32:14 +0200 > To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > From: mudrcmann@post.cz > Subject: Caj: Ovonene caje > Send reply to: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Caj v Dusi. > > Posledni dobou jsem si vsiml, ze mam zvlastni uchylku na ovonene caje. Ale bohuzel vychutnani takovehoto caje mi > zneprijemnuje pocit, ze behem procesu "navoneni", caj traci svoji puvodni kvalitu. Budu velice rad, kdyz mi nekdo potvrdi, ci vyvrati moji domnenku. > > A budu jeste vice rad, kdyz mi nekdo rekne jak toto ovoneni provadet doma. Trebaze mam caj na noc dat do lotosoveho kvetu atd... > > Predem dekuji > > Caj s vama. > mudrcmann > Z teto uchylky si nic nedelej, ja ji mam taky. Na svuj oblibeny Irish Cream nedam dopustit. I kdyz je pravda, ze caje piju opravdu podle nalady. K mym nejoblibenejsim cajum patri treba Pu-erh. Nedavno jsem ochutnala pomerancovy caj a opravdu nebyl spatny. Pila jsem ho u kamarada, ktery si k cernemu caji (druh nevim) do plechovky pridal kousky pomerancove kury. Musim rict, ze tenhle domaci ovoneny caj byl mnohem lepsi nez kupovany. Asi to opravdu bude tim, ze doma vis, co vsechno k tomu caji pridavas. Ted planuju udelat si vlastni cajicek,jen si musim rozmyslet, cim ho necham ovonet. v dharme Triss >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Apr 8 06:14:50 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA06649; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 06:14:50 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA06645 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 06:14:49 +0200 From: LToman@zivpo.cz Received: from zp999a.zivpo.cz (ms.zivpo.cz [195.146.106.228]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA08484 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 06:14:45 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by ms.zivpo.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <23P546RQ>; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 06:14:45 +0200 Message-ID: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A39015705BC@PUEX1C1> To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: RE: Kokeicha Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 06:14:09 +0200 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Dobry den pozivacum caje. > > Chci se s Vami podelit o jeden zpusob pripravy caje, > o nemz si nejsem jist, zda je spravny -- slyselt jsem > jej totizto toliko z jedineho zdroje. > > Druhdy jsem si pri navsteve olomoucke Drevene panny > zakoupil mistni vazeny Kokeicha a veskrze vstricny > mlady prodavac mi sdelil tajemstvi spravne pripravy > teto zvlastni materie. Totiz -- jelikoz se jedna o > lisovany caj sekany do jehel, je treba k uvolneni > silic a katechinu v jehlach obsazenych tyto v horke > vode za louhovani a cajovych latek extrahovani promnout, > nejlepe tak, ze jehlice umistene v sterilnim filtrovnim > sacku po nasati vody nekolikrate stlacime, kterymzto > zpusobem se jehlice rozdroli na kasi a voda se dostane > i do jejich outrob, odkudz vydoluje dotcene latky. > > Jelikoz nejsem majitelem jednorazovych filtrovnich sacku, > resim situaci takto: Do vyhrate sklenky se silnymi > stenami dam primerene mnoztvi cajovych jehel, preliji > je vodou patricne teploty tak, aby byla hladina asi dva > az tri milimetry nad jehlami, pak brutalne drtim jehly > o steny cajovou lzici, az vznikne hmota, kterou pracovne > nazyvam Zelene blato. Nato hmotu sliji do vyhrate > konvicky, priliji mnozstvi horke vody, pro ktere byl > caj urcen, a louhuji tak, aby soucet dob pobytu jehel > ve vode dal dobou, po kterou zamyslim caj vystavovat > louhovacimu procesu. Blato se mezitim castecne usadi > na dne konvice, hotovy caj opatrne sleji do cilove treti > konvicky urcene k popijeni pres soupravu hustych sitek, > aby vetsina blata nesla do nalevu. Nalev je silny, > nepruhledny, dobry. > > Co na to prisedici cajomilove? > > Ivos. Hm... to nezni spatne. Asi to nekdy vyzkousim. Kokeichu mam doma. Galenius >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Apr 8 07:52:57 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA06824; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 07:52:57 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA06821 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 07:52:56 +0200 From: SEVEROVA@gytool.cz Received: from power.ol.cesnet.cz ([194.212.160.147]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA08348 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 07:52:56 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mailer.gytool.cz (gh-2.gytool.cz [194.212.37.22]) by power.ol.cesnet.cz (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id IAA44102 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 08:52:29 +0200 (DFT) Received: from GH-2/SpoolDir by mailer.gytool.cz (Mercury 1.44); 8 Apr 99 07:52:55 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by GH-2 (Mercury 1.44); 8 Apr 99 07:52:39 +0200 Organization: Gymnazium v Olomouci-Hejcine, CZ To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 07:52:38 MET +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Caj: ovonenci.... X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.40 Message-ID: <261F5312572@mailer.gytool.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Teda mne opravdu fascinuje, jak mnozi dokazou hodnotit cloveka pomalu i podle toho, jaky caj si davaji nejradeji. Ja jsem se domnivala, ze aspon lidi, kteri piji caj, jsou tolerantni, nevim, co mne to napadlo. Ale oznacovat slovem "humus" neco, co jinemu opravdu chutna neni moc tolerantni. Ja si myslim, ze pije kazdy, co mu chutna. Pokud mam potrebu rici svuj nazor, tak tady je na to urcite spravne misto. Ale urazet......SASA >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Apr 8 08:29:28 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA06917; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 08:29:28 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA06914 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 08:29:27 +0200 Received: from kanec.linux (kanec.plemdat.czn.cz [194.213.228.200]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA07622 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 08:29:23 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from milan (milan.plemdat.czn.cz [223.45.6.152]) by kanec.linux (8.8.5/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id IAA08590 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 08:30:33 +0200 Message-ID: <000601be8189$2f8ceca0$98062ddf@milan> From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Milan_=C8ervenka?=" To: Subject: Caj: Re: Kokeicha Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 08:29:41 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz No, dost zvlastni, ale budiz. Je to asi zpusob jak udelat z kokeichi matchu :-) Jinak mi to spi^Ú pripomina pripravu kakaa :-) V Kristu Milan ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Koukni se na stranku o caji: http://www.angelfire.com/ga/caj/caj.html nebo o umeni: http://www.mujweb.cz/www/artpoetry/index.htm -AdHOnoreJesus!- -----Původní zpráva----- Od: Ivo Jancik Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz Datum: 7. dubna 1999 15:54 Předmět: Caj: Kokeicha > >Dobry den pozivacum caje. > >Chci se s Vami podelit o jeden zpusob pripravy caje, >o nemz si nejsem jist, zda je spravny -- slyselt jsem >jej totizto toliko z jedineho zdroje. > >Druhdy jsem si pri navsteve olomoucke Drevene panny >zakoupil mistni vazeny Kokeicha a veskrze vstricny >mlady prodavac mi sdelil tajemstvi spravne pripravy >teto zvlastni materie. Totiz -- jelikoz se jedna o >lisovany caj sekany do jehel, je treba k uvolneni >silic a katechinu v jehlach obsazenych tyto v horke >vode za louhovani a cajovych latek extrahovani promnout, >nejlepe tak, ze jehlice umistene v sterilnim filtrovnim >sacku po nasati vody nekolikrate stlacime, kterymzto >zpusobem se jehlice rozdroli na kasi a voda se dostane >i do jejich outrob, odkudz vydoluje dotcene latky. > >Jelikoz nejsem majitelem jednorazovych filtrovnich sacku, >resim situaci takto: Do vyhrate sklenky se silnymi >stenami dam primerene mnoztvi cajovych jehel, preliji >je vodou patricne teploty tak, aby byla hladina asi dva >az tri milimetry nad jehlami, pak brutalne drtim jehly >o steny cajovou lzici, az vznikne hmota, kterou pracovne >nazyvam Zelene blato. Nato hmotu sliji do vyhrate >konvicky, priliji mnozstvi horke vody, pro ktere byl >caj urcen, a louhuji tak, aby soucet dob pobytu jehel >ve vode dal dobou, po kterou zamyslim caj vystavovat >louhovacimu procesu. Blato se mezitim castecne usadi >na dne konvice, hotovy caj opatrne sleji do cilove treti >konvicky urcene k popijeni pres soupravu hustych sitek, >aby vetsina blata nesla do nalevu. Nalev je silny, >nepruhledny, dobry. > >Co na to prisedici cajomilove? > >Ivos. > >------------------------------ >jancik@mendelu.cz >http://dahlia.mendelu.cz/~jancik >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Apr 8 09:06:27 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA07013; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:06:27 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA07010 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:06:26 +0200 Received: from kanec.linux (kanec.plemdat.czn.cz [194.213.228.200]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA12158 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:06:22 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from milan (milan.plemdat.czn.cz [223.45.6.152]) by kanec.linux (8.8.5/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id JAA08794 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:07:18 +0200 Message-ID: <001401be818e$51d6e6d0$98062ddf@milan> From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Milan_=C8ervenka?=" To: Subject: Caj: Re: ovonenci.... Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:06:26 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Sasenko moje mila, na tvy reakci je opet videt jak je uzitecna nonverbalni komunikace. Kdyz rikam humus o caji, nemyslim si totez o cloveku. Jsou lidi ktery si pichaj ruzny svinstva, ktery sou pro mne humus, ale to neznamena ze je nenavidim. Naopak - zaslouzej si moji lasku -- nenavidim drogy, ale je mi lito narkomanu. Podobne s homosexualitou apod. Je to muj nazor o statni s nim muzou nesouhlasit, to chapu. Konference je od toho aby se tu vyjadrily osobni nazory, jinak by sme to tu mohli zabalit a s trvzenim ze -vsechno jedno jest- propadnout nihilismu. Nemohu si pomoct, zadna CINSKA sencha mi nechutna! V Kristu Milan ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Koukni se na stranku o caji: http://www.angelfire.com/ga/caj/caj.html nebo o umeni: http://www.mujweb.cz/www/artpoetry/index.htm -AdHOnoreJesus!- -----Původní zpráva----- Od: SEVEROVA@gytool.cz Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz Datum: 8. dubna 1999 8:01 Předmět: Caj: ovonenci.... Teda mne opravdu fascinuje, jak mnozi dokazou hodnotit cloveka pomalu i podle toho, jaky caj si davaji nejradeji. Ja jsem se domnivala, ze aspon lidi, kteri piji caj, jsou tolerantni, nevim, co mne to napadlo. Ale oznacovat slovem "humus" neco, co jinemu opravdu chutna neni moc tolerantni. Ja si myslim, ze pije kazdy, co mu chutna. Pokud mam potrebu rici svuj nazor, tak tady je na to urcite spravne misto. Ale urazet......SASA >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Apr 8 09:13:00 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA07050; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:13:00 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA07047 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:12:59 +0200 Received: from ns.felk.cvut.cz (ns.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.9]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA03446 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:12:59 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from hwlab.felk.cvut.cz (hwlab.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.90]) by ns.felk.cvut.cz (8.9.2/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA35917 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:12:59 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from HWLAB/SpoolDir by hwlab.felk.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 8 Apr 99 09:10:46 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by HWLAB (Mercury 1.31); 8 Apr 99 09:10:17 +0100 From: "Andrle Jakub" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:10:15 MET-1MEST Subject: Re: Caj: ovonenci.... X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.40 Message-ID: Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Teda mne opravdu fascinuje, jak mnozi dokazou hodnotit cloveka pomalu > i podle toho, jaky caj si davaji nejradeji. Ja jsem se domnivala, ze > aspon lidi, kteri piji caj, jsou tolerantni, nevim, co mne to > napadlo. Ale oznacovat slovem "humus" neco, co jinemu opravdu chutna > neni moc tolerantni. Ja si myslim, ze pije kazdy, co mu chutna. Pokud > mam potrebu rici svuj nazor, tak tady je na to urcite spravne misto. > Ale urazet......SASA presne tak, taky jsem z toho byl vedle, jak se nekdo dokaze rozparadit. Osobne si myslim, ze kazdy ma svoje chutove a cichove bunky. Jesli nekomu chutna to ci ono to je prece jeho vec. caj --------------------------------- Andrle Jakub - student CVUT FEL - VT xandrle1@fel.cvut.cz --------------------------------- >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Apr 8 09:50:36 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA07174; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:50:36 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA07171 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:50:35 +0200 Received: from kanec.linux (kanec.plemdat.czn.cz [194.213.228.200]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA09901 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:50:09 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from milan (milan.plemdat.czn.cz [223.45.6.152]) by kanec.linux (8.8.5/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id JAA09019 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:51:11 +0200 Message-ID: <002101be8194$73bd95e0$98062ddf@milan> From: "=?iso-8859-2?Q?Milan_=C8ervenka?=" To: Subject: Re: Re: Caj: ovonenci.... Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:50:19 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Drazi cajomilci, o mym oblibenym gruzinaku si tu Pavel baxu dovolil napsat, ze se to neda pit. No a kamenoval jsem ho za netolerenci a bil za to ze si ho nechava ovonet Baileys. Ne! Tak bych se radeji bavil co noveho s cajem ste prozili, nez se hadal ci chutove pohorky jsou retardovanejsi. Proto opakuji dotaz, zda ste nekdo pil Formosa Oolong Dung-Ti a jak vam chutnal. Taky by me zajimalo jestli ste nekde nezahledli cajovou panev (viz. Vsechny caje Ciny). Caju. V Kristu Milan ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Koukni se na stranku o caji: http://www.angelfire.com/ga/caj/caj.html nebo o umeni: http://www.mujweb.cz/www/artpoetry/index.htm -AdHOnoreJesus!- -----Původní zpráva----- Od: Andrle Jakub Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz Datum: 8. dubna 1999 9:20 Předmět: Re: Caj: ovonenci.... > >> Teda mne opravdu fascinuje, jak mnozi dokazou hodnotit cloveka >pomalu >> i podle toho, jaky caj si davaji nejradeji. Ja jsem se domnivala, ze >> aspon lidi, kteri piji caj, jsou tolerantni, nevim, co mne to >> napadlo. Ale oznacovat slovem "humus" neco, co jinemu opravdu chutna >> neni moc tolerantni. Ja si myslim, ze pije kazdy, co mu chutna. Pokud >> mam potrebu rici svuj nazor, tak tady je na to urcite spravne misto. >> Ale urazet......SASA > >presne tak, taky jsem z toho byl vedle, jak se nekdo dokaze >rozparadit. Osobne si myslim, ze kazdy ma svoje chutove a cichove >bunky. Jesli nekomu chutna to ci ono to je prece jeho vec. > >caj > > >--------------------------------- > Andrle Jakub - student > CVUT FEL - VT > xandrle1@fel.cvut.cz >--------------------------------- >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Apr 8 10:32:02 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA07316; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:32:02 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA07313 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:32:01 +0200 From: SEVEROVA@gytool.cz Received: from power.ol.cesnet.cz ([194.212.160.147]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA16259 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:31:59 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mailer.gytool.cz (gh-2.gytool.cz [194.212.37.22]) by power.ol.cesnet.cz (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id LAA39396 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:31:32 +0200 (DFT) Received: from GH-2/SpoolDir by mailer.gytool.cz (Mercury 1.44); 8 Apr 99 10:31:59 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by GH-2 (Mercury 1.44); 8 Apr 99 10:31:43 +0200 Organization: Gymnazium v Olomouci-Hejcine, CZ To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:31:38 MET +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Subject: Re: Caj: Re: ovonenci.... X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.40 Message-ID: <2649BF77C3C@mailer.gytool.cz> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-printable to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id KAA07314 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Tak to beru, me proste slovo HUMUS prijde moc silny. SASA > Nemohu si pomoct, zadna CINSKA sencha mi nechutna! > > V Kristu Milan > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Koukni se na stranku o caji: > http://www.angelfire.com/ga/caj/caj.html > nebo o umeni: > http://www.mujweb.cz/www/artpoetry/index.htm > -AdHOnoreJesus!- > -----Puvodní zpráva----- > Od: SEVEROVA@gytool.cz > Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Datum: 8. dubna 1999 8:01 > Pőedmit: Caj: ovonenci.... > > > Teda mne opravdu fascinuje, jak mnozi dokazou hodnotit cloveka pomalu > i podle toho, jaky caj si davaji nejradeji. Ja jsem se domnivala, ze > aspon lidi, kteri piji caj, jsou tolerantni, nevim, co mne to > napadlo. Ale oznacovat slovem "humus" neco, co jinemu opravdu chutna > neni moc tolerantni. Ja si myslim, ze pije kazdy, co mu chutna. Pokud > mam potrebu rici svuj nazor, tak tady je na to urcite spravne misto. > Ale urazet......SASA > > >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Apr 8 11:44:47 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA07500; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:44:47 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA07497 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:44:46 +0200 Received: from max.feld.cvut.cz (max.feld.cvut.cz [147.32.192.36]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA20168 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:44:45 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from FELIS.FELD.CVUT.CZ (felis.feld.cvut.cz [147.32.192.68]) by max.feld.cvut.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA00970 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:44:45 +0200 Received: from FELIS/SpoolDir by FELIS.FELD.CVUT.CZ (Mercury 1.44); 8 Apr 99 11:44:45 MET-1MEST Received: from SpoolDir by FELIS (Mercury 1.44); 8 Apr 99 10:57:36 MET-1MEST From: "Dusan Talir student" Organization: CVUT FEL student To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:57:32 MET-1MEST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Caj: Ovonene caje X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.40 Message-ID: <14A0C2855A3@FELIS.FELD.CVUT.CZ> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Jo jinak vsem vrele doporucuju Formosa Oolong Dung-Ti, to je ted moje > vrcholne posusnanicko. Je sice drazzsi (asi 240Kc/100g), ale bohate se mi > odvdecil 15 nalevy (pri zpusobu kung-fu). Mohli byste mi poradit jak spravne pripravit kung-fu caj? Teplota vody 1. nalevu a tak...??? Vvyzbrojen novou soupravou a trochou teorie z knizky "Vsechny caje ciny" jsem se pustil do pripravy Vodni Vily (Tie Guan Yin mi dosla). Vysledek byl strasny: Prvni nalevy byly i po pouhem priliti vody konvickou (5s) tak silne, ze aby se dali pit jsem je musel naredit vodou. Ty dalsi u kterych by uz sila odpovidala zase nemeli takovou chut..., proste fiasko a zpousta dobreho caje pryc. Pomozte. Dusan >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Apr 8 12:18:33 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA07628; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:18:33 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA07625 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:18:32 +0200 Received: from ns.seznam.cz (ns.seznam.cz [195.39.10.2]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA22807 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:18:28 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from lizard (nymD001.pvt.net [194.149.97.193]) by ns.seznam.cz (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA20117 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:18:12 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.16.19990408121745.191f0c70@pop3.seznam.cz> X-Sender: petrnon@pop3.seznam.cz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (16) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 12:17:45 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz From: PetrNovak Subject: Re: Caj: Kokeicha In-Reply-To: References: <004801be80f4$2ce39340$98062ddf@milan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz At 15:31 7.4.1999 +0200, you wrote: > >Dobry den pozivacum caje. > >Chci se s Vami podelit o jeden zpusob pripravy caje, >Druhdy jsem si pri navsteve olomoucke Drevene panny >zakoupil mistni vazeny Kokeicha a veskrze vstricny ... Nalev je silny, >nepruhledny, dobry. > >Co na to prisedici cajomilove? > >Ivos. > >------------------------------ >jancik@mendelu.cz >http://dahlia.mendelu.cz/~jancik > Pozdrav vsem cajomilcum, konecne zase jeden zajimavy namet k probirani. Ja jsem pro to, aby se zkusilo vsechno, co ma nejaky rozumny duvod a muze chutove pozitky z piti caje obohatit. Neco podobneho jako drceni techto tycinek mne jiz napadlo, ale priznam se, ze ucty k caji samotnemu jsem se toho neodvazil. A pritom je to tak proste, dostat z materie, co to da. To da rozum, ze nalev bude silny a pro slabsi povahy neprijatelny, nebot i bez drceni ho lze pripravit slusne silny. Necham se touto myslenkou inspirovat a pri nejblizsi prilezitosti to vyzkousim. Je vsak pravda, ze standardne pripravovany v cajovnach je caj naprosto ciry (asi na to, ze se da pripravovat i jinak bud neprisli v tech cajovnach, kde jsem byl, anebo je to pro ne prilis pracne a museli by zvysit cenu, anebo caj, ktery neni ciry si netroufnou nabizet). Jak to vyzkousim, nabidnu sve zazitky. S pozdravem Petr Novak >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Apr 8 13:02:55 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA07816; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:02:55 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA07813 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:02:54 +0200 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA26121 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:02:54 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA01217 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:58:20 +0200 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 8 Apr 99 13:02:54 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 8 Apr 99 13:02:38 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:02:34 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Ovonene caje X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <13FDD0535@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Pila jsem ho u kamarada, ktery si k cernemu caji (druh nevim) do > plechovky pridal kousky pomerancove kury. Musim rict, ze tenhle > domaci ovoneny caj byl mnohem lepsi nez kupovany. Asi to opravdu bude > tim, ze doma vis, co vsechno k tomu caji pridavas. Ted planuju udelat > si vlastni cajicek,jen si musim rozmyslet, cim ho necham ovonet. Zacal jsem doma k Tiger River (cerny cejlonsky caj) pridavat par klaciku hrebicku a nemohu si to vynachvalit. Zkousel jsem i kardamom, ale tan neni tak silny. Jsou to tedy take ovonene caje ;-) ??? Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Apr 8 21:40:40 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA09849; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:40:40 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA09846 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:40:38 +0200 Received: from ns.seznam.cz (ns.seznam.cz [195.39.10.2]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA13513 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:40:37 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from win95 (c157.terminal.cz [195.70.130.157] (may be forged)) by ns.seznam.cz (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA30720 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:40:21 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990408210657.00c95508@pop.atlas.cz> X-Sender: kulveit@pop.atlas.cz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 21:06:57 +0200 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz From: Jan Kulveit Subject: Caj: "Recenze:" Japonsky zeleny caj a zdravi In-Reply-To: <000601be8189$2f8ceca0$98062ddf@milan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ahoj, chtel bych vas varovat pred jednou pubikaci, jejiz vydavatel se zrejme snazi vytriskat nejake penize ze zajmu o caj a slusnost je mu asi cizi. --- Japonsky zeleny caj a zdravi T-art, Trutnov 1999 cena ? Nevim, zdali je tady v konferenci je nekdo, kdo ma s touto knihou co do cineni - pokud ano, docela by me zajimalo, jak muze vysvetlit tohle: (citat z knihy, str. 12) Zeleny caj upravuje vysoky krevni tlak Vysoky krevni tlak znamena mimoradne zatizeni pro srdecne cevni system a podporuje vznik aterosklerozy, ktera zase vyvolava onemocneni srdce, mozkovou mrtvici sa dalsi cevni choroby. Pricin, ktere vedou ke vzniku vysokeho krevniho tlaku, je mnoho a nejsou jeste zcela objasneny. Je vsak jiste, ze vyznamnou roli pri vzniku vysokeho tlaku ma chemicka latka angiotestin... --- (citat ze stranek http://daisan.co.jp/health4.htm) /Written by Dr.Itaro OGUNI /Professor of Food Science /Department of Food and Nutritional Sciences /University of Shizuoka,Hamamatsu College Green tea controls high blood pressure Green tea controls high blood pressure High blood pressure places a serious burden on the vascular system and contributes to atherosclerosis. Atherosclerosis will in turn precipitate heart disease, stroke and other cardiovascular diseases. The cause of high blood pressure is not yet fully understood, but it is clear that a chemical called angiotensin... --- Odhadoval bych, ze 80 procent textu knihy vzniklo proste neprilis kvalitnim prekladem z uvedenych stranek. (ceskeho puvodu jsou zrejme pasaze "Devatero spravne pripravy japonskeho zeleneho caje" - bohuzel napadne podobne zde diskutovanemu "Desateru", originalni je zrejme pasaz "Cajovnik- Camelia sinensis, L. O. Kunze") V knize neni o autorovi ani radek, k prekladu se take (radsi) nikdo nehlasi. Nakladatelstvi T-art si presto ke knize osobuje autorska prava. Graficka uprava (autorem je Milan Ales) je hrozna, posledni 4 stranky jsou reklama nakladatele, 5 stranek je bilych. Text je sazen pismem Times New Roman CE v neobvykle velke velikosti 12 a pri trose snahy by se rozsah knihy dal zmensit na ctvrtinu bez ztraty citelnosti a vypusteni nekterych pasazi. Zaver? Uvazujete-li o koupi knihy "Japonsky zeleny caj a zdravi", investujte radeji do kterekoli jine knihy o caji. Honza Kulveit http://www.cajovnik.cz >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Apr 9 08:29:29 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA10826; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:29:29 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA10823 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:29:27 +0200 Received: from server.ica.cz ([195.47.13.11]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA20276 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:29:25 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from brn.pvt.cz (com.ica.cz [195.47.13.10]) by server.ica.cz (8.9.2/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA09351 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:28:54 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <370D9E12.89FC5EE8@brn.pvt.cz> Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 08:28:34 +0200 From: Petr Buchmaier X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: cs MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: "Recenze:" Japonsky zeleny caj a zdravi References: <3.0.3.32.19990408210657.00c95508@pop.atlas.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ahoj nelze nez souhlasit s varovanim pred touto knihou ve ktere se nedozvite nic noveho a zaplatite za ni penize. Informace jsou vseobecne, na nekolika strankach a velmi pravdepodobne opsane. Moje vlastni recenze je k dispozici na http://www.caje.cz/cteni/japonskyzelenycaj.htm Petr Buchmaier http://www.caje.cz Jan Kulveit wrote: > > Ahoj, > > chtel bych vas varovat pred jednou pubikaci, jejiz vydavatel se zrejme > snazi vytriskat nejake penize ze zajmu o caj a slusnost je mu asi cizi. > > --- > Japonsky zeleny caj a zdravi > T-art, Trutnov 1999 > cena ? > > Nevim, zdali je tady v konferenci je nekdo, kdo ma s touto > knihou co do cineni - pokud ano, docela by me zajimalo, jak > muze vysvetlit tohle: > > (citat z knihy, str. 12) > Zeleny caj upravuje vysoky krevni tlak > Vysoky krevni tlak znamena mimoradne zatizeni pro srdecne cevni system > a podporuje vznik aterosklerozy, ktera zase vyvolava onemocneni srdce, > mozkovou mrtvici sa dalsi cevni choroby. Pricin, ktere vedou ke vzniku > vysokeho krevniho tlaku, je mnoho a nejsou jeste zcela objasneny. > Je vsak jiste, ze vyznamnou roli pri vzniku vysokeho tlaku ma chemicka latka > angiotestin... > --- > > (citat ze stranek http://daisan.co.jp/health4.htm) > /Written by Dr.Itaro OGUNI > /Professor of Food Science > /Department of Food and Nutritional Sciences > /University of Shizuoka,Hamamatsu College > > Green tea controls high blood pressure > Green tea controls high blood pressure High blood pressure places a serious > burden on the vascular system and contributes to atherosclerosis. > Atherosclerosis will in turn precipitate heart disease, stroke and other > cardiovascular diseases. The cause of high blood pressure is not yet fully > understood, but it is clear that a chemical called angiotensin... > --- > > Odhadoval bych, ze 80 procent textu knihy vzniklo proste neprilis > kvalitnim prekladem z uvedenych stranek. (ceskeho puvodu jsou zrejme > pasaze "Devatero spravne pripravy japonskeho zeleneho caje" > - bohuzel napadne podobne zde diskutovanemu "Desateru", > originalni je zrejme pasaz "Cajovnik- Camelia sinensis, L. O. Kunze") > > V knize neni o autorovi ani radek, k prekladu se take (radsi) nikdo nehlasi. > Nakladatelstvi T-art si presto ke knize osobuje autorska prava. > Graficka uprava (autorem je Milan Ales) je hrozna, posledni 4 stranky jsou > reklama nakladatele, 5 stranek je bilych. Text je sazen pismem > Times New Roman CE v neobvykle velke velikosti 12 a pri trose > snahy by se rozsah knihy dal zmensit na ctvrtinu bez ztraty citelnosti > a vypusteni nekterych pasazi. > > Zaver? Uvazujete-li o koupi knihy "Japonsky zeleny caj a zdravi", > investujte radeji do kterekoli jine knihy o caji. > > Honza Kulveit > http://www.cajovnik.cz >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Apr 9 08:52:23 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA10903; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:52:23 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA10900 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:52:21 +0200 Received: from matsrv.math.cas.cz (IDENT:kasal@math-gw.math.cas.cz [147.231.89.66]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA22901 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:52:19 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from kasal@localhost) by matsrv.math.cas.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA06950 for caj@dione.zcu.cz; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:52:19 +0200 From: Stepan Kasal Message-Id: <199904090652.IAA06950@matsrv.math.cas.cz> Subject: Caj: Vysoky krevni tlak a zaleny caj To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:52:19 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <370D9E12.89FC5EE8@brn.pvt.cz> from "Petr Buchmaier" at Apr 9, 99 08:28:34 am Content-Type: text Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Dobry den, ve varovani pred hloupou knihou bylo mj. receno, ze zeleny caj snizuje vysoky krevni tlak. Ja jsem si naopak myslel, ze caj, podobne jako kava, krevni tlak zvysuje, zeleny jeste vice o to, ze jsme tein neznicili fermentaci. Vi nekdo, jak je to? --Stepan >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Apr 9 09:26:41 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA11054; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:26:41 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA11051 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:26:40 +0200 Received: from kiv.zcu.cz (ur404p01-rek.rek.zcu.cz [147.228.71.108]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA23370; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:26:39 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <370DABAF.7E38A24B@kiv.zcu.cz> Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 09:26:39 +0200 From: Pavel Baxa Organization: ZCU Plzen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: cs,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Vysoky krevni tlak a zaleny caj References: <199904090652.IAA06950@matsrv.math.cas.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Stepan Kasal wrote: > > Dobry den, > ve varovani pred hloupou knihou bylo mj. receno, ze zeleny caj snizuje vysoky > krevni tlak. Ja jsem si naopak myslel, ze caj, podobne jako kava, krevni tlak > zvysuje, zeleny jeste vice o to, ze jsme tein neznicili fermentaci. > Vi nekdo, jak je to? --Stepan Caj by mel rozsirovat cevy, cimz asi snizuje tlak. Mozna, ze se tlak kofeinem kratkodobe zvysi a pak po odezneni ucinku kofeinu vydrzi dlouho nizky. To je muj nazor, nemusi to byt pravda. Pavel B. >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Apr 9 10:01:04 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA11156; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:01:04 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA11153 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:01:03 +0200 Received: from ns.stapro.cz (IDENT:qmailr@ns.stapro.cz [195.146.104.89]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA25585 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:01:02 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199904090801.KAA25585@ori.zcu.cz> Received: (qmail 22091 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 1999 08:00:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Kropacek.stapro.cz) (192.168.10.237) by ns.stapro.cz with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 08:00:39 -0000 From: "Milan Kropacek" Organization: Stapro s.r.o. To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:00:46 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Caj: Vysoky krevni tlak a zaleny caj In-reply-to: <370DABAF.7E38A24B@kiv.zcu.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > ve varovani pred hloupou knihou bylo mj. receno, ze zeleny caj snizuje vysoky > > krevni tlak. Ja jsem si naopak myslel, ze caj, podobne jako kava, krevni tlak > > zvysuje, zeleny jeste vice o to, ze jsme tein neznicili fermentaci. > > Vi nekdo, jak je to? --Stepan > > Caj by mel rozsirovat cevy, cimz asi snizuje tlak. > Mozna, ze se tlak kofeinem kratkodobe zvysi a pak > po odezneni ucinku kofeinu vydrzi dlouho nizky. > To je muj nazor, nemusi to byt pravda. Alkaloid kofein v caji je vazan jeste na nejakou jinou latku a rozklada se az v mozku--pusobi primo na nervovou soustavu. U kavy tomu tak neni, tam pusobi na krevni obeh. To, ze zeleny caj snizuje krevni tlak (pokud vubec) nebude tim kofeinem, ale nejakymi jinymi latkami. -- Milan Kropacek Stapro s.r.o. >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Apr 9 10:19:43 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA11247; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:19:43 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA11244 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:19:41 +0200 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA24565 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:19:41 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01317 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:19:44 +0200 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 9 Apr 99 10:19:41 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 9 Apr 99 10:19:40 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:19:36 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: "Recenze:" Japonsky zeleny caj a zdravi X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <1AAE37828@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Ahoj > > nelze nez souhlasit s varovanim pred touto knihou ve ktere se nedozvite nic > noveho a zaplatite za ni penize. Informace jsou vseobecne, na nekolika strankach > a velmi pravdepodobne opsane. Take souhlasim, myslim, ze jsem tam narazil napr. krom jineho na neco o zalevani genmaichy vrouci vodou. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Apr 9 11:03:59 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA11561; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:03:59 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA11558 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:03:57 +0200 Received: from ns.felk.cvut.cz (ns.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.9]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA29015 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:03:57 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sun (sun.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.32]) by ns.felk.cvut.cz (8.9.2/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA82173 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:03:56 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sun45.felk.cvut.cz by sun (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17538; Fri, 9 Apr 99 11:03:56 +0200 Received: by sun45.felk.cvut.cz (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05726; Fri, 9 Apr 99 11:03:55 +0200 Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:03:54 +0200 (MET DST) From: Tregner Vaclav student 6_98_99 k336 X-Sender: xtregner@sun45 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Mesicni kocka & priprava caje In-Reply-To: <1AAE37828@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ahoj, vcera jsem byl v cajovne u mesicni kocky. Je to tam docela prijemny ale zarazila me priprava caje. Potiz je v tom ze v konvicce nechavaji cajove listky, ne jako napr. v dobre cajovne, kde je caj zcedi. Prvni salek byl tak jemnej a slabej, ve druhem byly uz dost citit trisloviny a treti mi uthl hubu (skoro doslova). To prece neni spravna priprava caje. Jako kungfu priprava se to taky neda povazovat, protoze ty konvicky byly normalne veliky (0.4l). Uz jsem tam byl vickrat a u zelenejch caju to takhle vzdycky pripravovali. Taky u vicenalevojech pisou treba ze snese az 3 nalevy, ale jen pri prepeclivy starosti o caj. Co tim myslej? Rychle ty dva nalevy do sebe nalejt, aby bylo pak jeste co louhovat? Co vy na to? Vasek PS: Mel jsem Tamaryokucha >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Apr 9 11:37:17 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA11791; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:37:17 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA11788 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:37:15 +0200 From: SEVEROVA@gytool.cz Received: from power.ol.cesnet.cz ([194.212.160.147]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA31491 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:37:15 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mailer.gytool.cz (gh-2.gytool.cz [194.212.37.22]) by power.ol.cesnet.cz (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id MAA37966 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:36:33 +0200 (DFT) Received: from GH-2/SpoolDir by mailer.gytool.cz (Mercury 1.44); 9 Apr 99 11:37:01 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by GH-2 (Mercury 1.44); 9 Apr 99 11:36:33 +0200 Organization: Gymnazium, Olomouci-Hejcin, CZ To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:36:30 MET +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Caj: Mesicni kocka & priprava caje X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.40 Message-ID: <27DB18442AA@mailer.gytool.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Ahoj, > vcera jsem byl v cajovne u mesicni kocky. Je to tam docela prijemny ale > zarazila me priprava caje. Potiz je v tom ze v konvicce nechavaji cajove > listky, ne jako napr. v dobre cajovne, kde je caj zcedi. Prvni salek byl > tak jemnej a slabej, ve druhem byly uz dost citit trisloviny a treti mi > uthl hubu (skoro doslova). To prece neni spravna priprava caje. Jako > kungfu priprava se to taky neda povazovat, protoze ty konvicky byly > normalne veliky (0.4l). Uz jsem tam byl vickrat a u zelenejch caju to > takhle vzdycky pripravovali. Taky u vicenalevojech pisou treba ze snese > az 3 nalevy, ale jen pri prepeclivy starosti o caj. Co tim myslej? Rychle > ty dva nalevy do sebe nalejt, aby bylo pak jeste co louhovat? > > Co vy na to? > Vasek > > PS: Mel jsem Tamaryokucha > Tak na to se da i umrit. Hodne zdravi pri rekonvalescenci. SASA >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Apr 9 12:28:14 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA12054; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:28:14 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA12051 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:28:12 +0200 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA32561 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:28:11 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA18162 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:28:15 +0200 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 9 Apr 99 12:28:11 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 9 Apr 99 12:27:51 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:27:46 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Mesicni kocka & priprava caje X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <3CDE2358B@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > vcera jsem byl v cajovne u mesicni kocky. Je to tam docela prijemny ale > zarazila me priprava caje. Potiz je v tom ze v konvicce nechavaji cajove > listky, ne jako napr. v dobre cajovne, kde je caj zcedi. Prvni salek byl > tak jemnej a slabej, ve druhem byly uz dost citit trisloviny a treti mi > uthl hubu (skoro doslova). To prece neni spravna priprava caje. Jako > kungfu priprava se to taky neda povazovat, protoze ty konvicky byly > normalne veliky (0.4l). Uz jsem tam byl vickrat a u zelenejch caju to > takhle vzdycky pripravovali. Taky u vicenalevojech pisou treba ze snese > az 3 nalevy, ale jen pri prepeclivy starosti o caj. Co tim myslej? Rychle > ty dva nalevy do sebe nalejt, aby bylo pak jeste co louhovat? Nevim jakou dobrou cajovnu mas na mysli, ale v Dobrych cajovnach od Milcu caje se to tak dela bezne. Chce to trochu cviku a da se s tim celkem vyjit, aniz by to utrhlo usta. Taky mne to zpocatku prekvapilo, ale da se to zvladnout a casem si i pochutnat. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Apr 9 17:58:18 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA13729; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 17:58:18 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA13726 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 17:58:15 +0200 Received: from gego.cz (ns.gego.cz [195.22.48.254]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA11928 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 17:58:08 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from WinProxy.anywhere (ppp44.cc.terminal.cz [195.70.133.44]) by gego.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA08385 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 17:57:59 +0200 Received: from 192.168.1.2 by 192.168.1.1 (WinProxy); Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:05:04 +0100 Message-ID: <003801be8292$0d1d6960$0201a8c0@cajoch.cajovna> From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?SmFuIE38bGxlcg==?=" To: Subject: Caj: Re: Re: ovonenci.... Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:05:40 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Sdruzim reakci na dva podnety: - ad SENCHA : ty pouzivane jako zaklad aromatizovanych caju jsou opravdu udesne, coz plati nejen o cinskych, ale i o korejskych, vietnamskych, indoneskych, ceylonskych, .... Nezamena to ovsem, ze tyto zeme neprodukuji kvalitni caj zpracovany japonskou metodou. Doporucuji podrobit domacim pokusum kupr. cinske GYOKURO (uplne vidim jak se mnohym cajochum jezi chlupy). Predsudky stranou ! - ad panev : http://www.caj.cz/ocaji.htm obrazek cislo 4 -----Původní zpráva----- Od: Milan Červenka Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz Datum: 8. dubna 1999 9:08 Předmět: Caj: Re: ovonenci.... >Nemohu si pomoct, zadna CINSKA sencha mi nechutna! + Taky by me zajimalo jestli ste nekde nezahledli cajovou panev (viz. Vsechny caje Ciny). > >V Kristu Milan >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Koukni se na stranku o caji: >http://www.angelfire.com/ga/caj/caj.html >nebo o umeni: >http://www.mujweb.cz/www/artpoetry/index.htm >-AdHOnoreJesus!- >-----Původní zpráva----- >Od: SEVEROVA@gytool.cz >Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz >Datum: 8. dubna 1999 8:01 >Předmět: Caj: ovonenci.... > > >Teda mne opravdu fascinuje, jak mnozi dokazou hodnotit cloveka pomalu >i podle toho, jaky caj si davaji nejradeji. Ja jsem se domnivala, ze >aspon lidi, kteri piji caj, jsou tolerantni, nevim, co mne to >napadlo. Ale oznacovat slovem "humus" neco, co jinemu opravdu chutna >neni moc tolerantni. Ja si myslim, ze pije kazdy, co mu chutna. Pokud >mam potrebu rici svuj nazor, tak tady je na to urcite spravne misto. >Ale urazet......SASA > >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Apr 9 20:30:38 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA14084; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 20:30:38 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA14081 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 20:30:35 +0200 Received: from gego.cz (ns.gego.cz [195.22.48.254]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA14129 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 20:30:33 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from WinProxy.anywhere (ppp58.cc.terminal.cz [195.70.133.58]) by gego.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA10919 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 20:30:30 +0200 Received: from 192.168.1.2 by 192.168.1.1 (WinProxy); Fri, 9 Apr 1999 18:58:41 +0100 Message-ID: <004701be82aa$51515b10$0201a8c0@cajoch.cajovna> From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?SmFuIE38bGxlcg==?=" To: Subject: Caj: Re: "Recenze:" Japonsky zeleny caj a zdravi Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 18:59:22 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Caji zdar, vydani takoveto knihy je ciste komercni zalezitost a la "cajem proti rakovine a zubnimu kazu". Presto si myslim, ze si sve vdecne ctenare najde. Mame s Ivanem vuci vydani teto knihy mnoho nepublikovatelnych vyhrad (zname pomerne dobre pozadi jejiho vydani), mnoho publikovatelnych (pouziti nasich pracovnich materialu ("Cajovnik- Camelia sinensis, L. O. Kunze") bez naseho svoleni (navic v takoveto knize) je od vydavatele dost velka hrubost a nestydatost), ale tyto veci jsou zalezitosti poruseni prava a nehodi se pro tuto konferenci. Ale aniz bych se chtel tohoto shluku pismen nejak zastavat, nepochopil jsem dost dobre duvody citace: "Zeleny caj ... latka angiotestin... ". Preklad mi prijde spravny (pokud moje znalosti anglictiny staci), je to tedy vyhrada vuci plagiatorstvi? Pokud vim, preklad byl porizen z nemeckeho vydani brozurky, to je snad u takovehoto veledila jedno. A zminovane devatero? Ne ze by nebylo o cem debatovat, japonske caje se daji pripravovat vice zpusoby, voda se da varit v litinovych konvich, ale to jsou jen doplneni a nuance. Nejaky blud ci vecnou chybu jsem nenasel. Ze tato kniha nerozplesa srdce cloveka vzhledem ani obsahem je pravdepodobne. Ale nasi cajovnickou sbirku bludu a uchylek taky nerozsiri. Myslim, ze nad ni jde jen mavnout rukou. Jan -----Původní zpráva----- Od: Jan Kulveit Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz Datum: 8. dubna 1999 21:41 Předmět: Caj: "Recenze:" Japonsky zeleny caj a zdravi > >Ahoj, > >chtel bych vas varovat pred jednou pubikaci, jejiz vydavatel se zrejme >snazi vytriskat nejake penize ze zajmu o caj a slusnost je mu asi cizi. > >--- >Japonsky zeleny caj a zdravi >T-art, Trutnov 1999 >cena ? > >Nevim, zdali je tady v konferenci je nekdo, kdo ma s touto >knihou co do cineni - pokud ano, docela by me zajimalo, jak >muze vysvetlit tohle: > >(citat z knihy, str. 12) >Zeleny caj upravuje vysoky krevni tlak >Vysoky krevni tlak znamena mimoradne zatizeni pro srdecne cevni system >a podporuje vznik aterosklerozy, ktera zase vyvolava onemocneni srdce, >mozkovou mrtvici sa dalsi cevni choroby. Pricin, ktere vedou ke vzniku >vysokeho krevniho tlaku, je mnoho a nejsou jeste zcela objasneny. >Je vsak jiste, ze vyznamnou roli pri vzniku vysokeho tlaku ma chemicka latka >angiotestin... >--- > >(citat ze stranek http://daisan.co.jp/health4.htm) >/Written by Dr.Itaro OGUNI >/Professor of Food Science >/Department of Food and Nutritional Sciences >/University of Shizuoka,Hamamatsu College > >Green tea controls high blood pressure >Green tea controls high blood pressure High blood pressure places a serious >burden on the vascular system and contributes to atherosclerosis. >Atherosclerosis will in turn precipitate heart disease, stroke and other >cardiovascular diseases. The cause of high blood pressure is not yet fully >understood, but it is clear that a chemical called angiotensin... >--- > >Odhadoval bych, ze 80 procent textu knihy vzniklo proste neprilis >kvalitnim prekladem z uvedenych stranek. (ceskeho puvodu jsou zrejme >pasaze "Devatero spravne pripravy japonskeho zeleneho caje" >- bohuzel napadne podobne zde diskutovanemu "Desateru", >originalni je zrejme pasaz "Cajovnik- Camelia sinensis, L. O. Kunze") > >V knize neni o autorovi ani radek, k prekladu se take (radsi) nikdo nehlasi. >Nakladatelstvi T-art si presto ke knize osobuje autorska prava. >Graficka uprava (autorem je Milan Ales) je hrozna, posledni 4 stranky jsou >reklama nakladatele, 5 stranek je bilych. Text je sazen pismem >Times New Roman CE v neobvykle velke velikosti 12 a pri trose >snahy by se rozsah knihy dal zmensit na ctvrtinu bez ztraty citelnosti >a vypusteni nekterych pasazi. > >Zaver? Uvazujete-li o koupi knihy "Japonsky zeleny caj a zdravi", >investujte radeji do kterekoli jine knihy o caji. > >Honza Kulveit >http://www.cajovnik.cz > >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Sat Apr 10 20:05:42 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA16205; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 20:05:42 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA16202 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 20:05:41 +0200 Received: from conan.asysijd.cz (mail@server.asysijd.cz [195.75.66.161]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA23069 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 20:05:36 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from kol-dial14.asysijd.cz (asysijd.cz) [195.75.66.24] by conan.asysijd.cz with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 10W28S-00077p-00; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 20:05:40 +0200 Message-ID: <370F929E.6924124E@asysijd.cz> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 20:04:14 +0200 From: Jan Bourek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Formosa Dung Ti References: <002a01be802d$ef4a7330$98062ddf@milan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-user-defined Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Jo jinak vsem vrele doporucuju Formosa Oolong Dung-Ti, to je ted moje > vrcholne posusnanicko. Je sice drazzsi (asi 240Kc/100g), ale bohate se mi > odvdecil 15 nalevy (pri zpusobu kung-fu). Bore da,Formosa Dung Ti je opravdu vynikajici, taky jsem ji zacal pit v cajovne v Koline. Tam ji podavaji v te zvlastni cinske konvicce s poklickou a tackem. Docela me tento zpusob piti posledni dobou nadchnul. A ten caj je vynikajici, i kdyz chutove hodne blizko caji zelenemu. ahoj *JB* >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Sun Apr 11 20:01:57 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA18843; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:01:57 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA18840 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:01:54 +0200 Received: from ns.felk.cvut.cz (ns.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.9]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA00465 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:01:54 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sun (sun.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.32]) by ns.felk.cvut.cz (8.9.2/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA96853 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:01:50 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sun45.felk.cvut.cz by sun (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01444; Sun, 11 Apr 99 20:01:49 +0200 Received: by sun45.felk.cvut.cz (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08309; Sun, 11 Apr 99 20:01:49 +0200 Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:01:48 +0200 (MET DST) From: Tregner Vaclav student 6_98_99 k336 X-Sender: xtregner@sun45 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Mesicni kocka & priprava caje In-Reply-To: <3CDE2358B@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Mel jsem na mysli Taborskou DC. Tam kdyz jsem byl, tak pripravovali caje systemem dvou konvicek. Zajimal by me ten cvik na jaky bych mel casem prijit. Myslim ze jsou jenom 2 moznosti: bud to rychle vypit, nebo aby na tu konvicku bylo dostatek lidi. No ale tahle si muzu aspon rikat ze delam neco pro zdravi (trisloviny jsou tusim zdravi prospesne ne?) :)) Vasek On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, Pavel Hlavacek wrote: > > vcera jsem byl v cajovne u mesicni kocky. Je to tam docela prijemny ale > > zarazila me priprava caje. Potiz je v tom ze v konvicce nechavaji cajove > > listky, ne jako napr. v dobre cajovne, kde je caj zcedi. Prvni salek byl > > tak jemnej a slabej, ve druhem byly uz dost citit trisloviny a treti mi > > uthl hubu (skoro doslova). To prece neni spravna priprava caje. Jako > > kungfu priprava se to taky neda povazovat, protoze ty konvicky byly > > normalne veliky (0.4l). Uz jsem tam byl vickrat a u zelenejch caju to > > takhle vzdycky pripravovali. Taky u vicenalevojech pisou treba ze snese > > az 3 nalevy, ale jen pri prepeclivy starosti o caj. Co tim myslej? Rychle > > ty dva nalevy do sebe nalejt, aby bylo pak jeste co louhovat? > > Nevim jakou dobrou cajovnu mas na mysli, ale v Dobrych cajovnach od > Milcu caje se to tak dela bezne. Chce to trochu cviku a da se s tim celkem > vyjit, aniz by to utrhlo usta. Taky mne to zpocatku prekvapilo, ale da se > to zvladnout a casem si i pochutnat. > > Pavel > > > mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz > http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek > > >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Apr 12 08:43:36 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA20066; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:43:36 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA20063 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:43:34 +0200 Received: from kanec.linux (kanec.plemdat.czn.cz [194.213.228.200]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA07490 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:43:27 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from milan (milan.plemdat.czn.cz [223.45.6.152]) by kanec.linux (8.8.5/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id IAA30632 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:44:31 +0200 Message-ID: <002401be84af$d0cef580$98062ddf@milan> From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Milan_=C8ervenka?=" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Mesicni kocka & priprava caje Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:43:45 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Zajimal by me ten cvik na jaky bych mel casem >prijit. No treba se do da tak resit, ze jakmile si nalejes salek, hned do konvice dolejes vodu (pokud ji mas na stole na ohrivacku). V Kristu Milan ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Koukni se na stranku o caji: http://www.angelfire.com/ga/caj/caj.html nebo o umeni: http://www.mujweb.cz/www/artpoetry/index.htm -AdHOnoreJesus!- >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Apr 12 10:01:28 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA20483; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:01:28 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA20480 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:01:26 +0200 Received: from ns1.ipnet.cz (ns1.ipnet.cz [212.20.64.2]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA09871 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:01:26 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pent-200 ([212.20.68.52]) by ns1.ipnet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA02763 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:01:14 +0200 Message-ID: <000001be84b8$e5a690e0$344414d4@pent-200> From: "BENT" To: "cajovnik" Subject: Caj: fromtom Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:27:24 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0038_01BE81ED.72EFC120" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01BE81ED.72EFC120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Vazeni gentlemani, mile damy. 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------=_NextPart_000_0038_01BE81ED.72EFC120-- >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Apr 12 10:21:48 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA20569; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:21:48 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA20566 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:21:46 +0200 Received: from kanec.linux (kanec.plemdat.czn.cz [194.213.228.200]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA10446 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:21:10 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from milan (milan.plemdat.czn.cz [223.45.6.152]) by kanec.linux (8.8.5/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id KAA31439 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:22:11 +0200 Message-ID: <000e01be84bd$74bb2620$98062ddf@milan> From: "=?iso-8859-2?Q?Milan_=C8ervenka?=" To: Subject: Caj: Re: fromtom Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:21:25 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01BE84CE.380FEDD0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Toto je zpráva ve formátu MIME obsahující několik částí. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BE84CE.380FEDD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Posilam neco k tematu jaro.=20 Svedeni jara aneb O nejhnusnejsim rocnim obdobi =20 http://www.novinky.cz/Index/Kultura/1899.html=20 =20 Dnes vam prinasime fejeton od naseho zbrusu noveho autora. Prectete = si tedy jeho prvni dilko pro Novinky a teste se na dalsi...=20 =20 Tak zase prislo jaro, jako kazdy rok. =20 =20 Slunce sviti, kvetiny rozkvetaji a pod nohama nam krupaji mrtva ptacatka, cerstve vypadla z hnizd. Vetve stromu a zkazene potraviny = na nasem balkone se zelenaji. Vstric slunci vyletaji ze smrdutych popelnic chuchvalce mladickych much, aby oslavily nejkrasnejsi cas roku a porozhledly se po chutnem vykalu. =20 Vetsina lidi jaro miluje. Cloveka fascinuje probouzejici se priroda, = a tak na oslavu jejiho znovuzrozeni oskube kere zlateho deste, vytrha = ze zeme snezenky, bledule, olame vetvicky stromu, nareze je a hodi do vazy s chlorovanou vodou. Zvlastni oblibe se tesi rozkosne chlupate kocicky, ktere za ucelem zkrasleni sveho pribytku uzurpuje zimou vyhladovelym vcelam a pripravuje je tak o prvni moznost obzivy. =20 Symbolem jara jsou bezesporu chlupata zlutoucka kuratka, nemotorne se batolici v zelene trave. Clovek jim ovsem neda prilezitost k vylihnuti, protoze slepice pripravi o moznost sexualniho zivota separaci od kohouta. Na Velikonoce jim navic sebere vejce, uvari neoplodnena kuratka natvrdo a za pomoci chemickych sloucenin jejich rakvicky oblece do barev, ktere slepice urcite puvodne nemely v umyslu. Pak orve vrby a z jejich proutku uplete pomlazky, ktere lze zakoupit u starych babek na trhu mezi panelaky za 25 korun za kus. Usetri se tak spousta casu, ktery se da stravit doma u televize. Obarvena vejce nasledne prechazeji do vlastnictvi zen, zatimco pomlazky do vlastnictvi muzu. Zvlastni je, ze vejce mohou podle tradice prejit z vlastnictvi zen do vlastnictvi muzu za pomoci = mirneho fyzickeho nasili s pouzitim pomlazky, zatimco metoda pro transfer pomlazek do vlastnictvi zen podle tradice neexistuje. Na zaver nutno poznamenat, ze v posledni dobe clovek dava pred skutecnymi prednost vajickum cokoladovym. Zvlaste pak, pokud v sobe skryvaji nejakou plastikovou ohavnost, rucne kolorovanou levnou asijskou pracovni silou. =20 Nedilnou soucasti jara jsou take kotatka. Kocky, vylakane teplou frontou, si v nocnich ulicich zadelavaji na mlade, kterymi nas pak nekdy uprostred kvetna potesi. Kotatka vypadaji jako droboucka, roztomila a bezmocna klubicka a clovek se nad nimi mnohdy roznezni natolik, ze mu da i nekolik hodin premahani, nez je v zajmu prirozeneho vyberu druhu utopi. =20 Topeni kotatek je mozno chapat jako soucast velkolepeho jarniho uklidu, kdy se clovek zbavuje nepotrebnych kramu. Poctive hospodynky oloupou z detskych zidli zaschle zvykacky a vyluxuji pavouky, umyji okna, nalesti linoleum, zametou a ze skrini vyhodi odevy, ktere jsou jim uz male. Vysokoskolsti studenti si na kolejich otevrou okno a vynesou kos. Programatori si rukavem otrou obrazovku monitoru. =20 Obrovskou zmenu zazivaji na jare lavicky v parku. Zatimco pres noc skytaji loze bezdomovcum, ktere teplo vyhnalo z kanalu a zatuchlych nadraznich cekaren, pres den jsou zpovednici milencum, kteri se na nich objimaji a muzska cast do nich v zachvatu lasky ryje = kosoctverce. =20 Ano, malem bych zapomnel - romantika je, samozrejme, dalsim synonymem jara. V touze po romantickem vztahu nektere divky na svuj oblicej aplikuji kosmetiku a make-up za nekolik set az tisic korun a natahuji si sukne, ktere zakryvaji jen ty casti tela, za jejichz odhaleni by mohly byt stihany pro mravni ohrozovani nezletilych. To je s povdekem kvitovano jak stejne romanticky zamerenymi vilnymi starci, kteri se celou zimu na prichod jara jen trasli a ted se vystavuji riziku selhani srdce, tak ostatnimi muzi, kteri se nestaci divit, co vsechno pres zimu narostlo a zvou to do kin za ucelem tmy. =20 Muzi a zeny, kteri uz nemaji vek, chut ci sily venovat se takovym cinnostem, mohou vyuzit ziskaneho casu k praci na zahradce. Zeminu je treba po zime vhodne upravit, rozryt a nadopovat umelymi hnojivy, ziravinami a chemikaliemi proti skudcum a nakonec i zeleninou, pripadne kvetenou, ktera ma uz spadeno na alergiky. Totez, ale ve velkem, praktikuji zemedelci, kterym na konci sezony uroda stejne shnije, uschne, zmrzne, nebo ji museji prodat za smesnou cenu. =20 Alergikum na jare zacina sezona, a tak musi polykat prasky, chodit na injekce, nechodit ven, malo vetrat, vyhybat se vcelam a vosam, = prachu, pylu, roztocum a proklinat prirodu se vsemi jejimi rocnimi obdobimi, ovsem se zvlastnim durazem na jaro. =20 Uz aby zase byla zima. V Kristu Milan -------------------------------------------------------------------------= Koukni se na stranku o caji: http://www.angelfire.com/ga/caj/caj.html=20 nebo o umeni: http://www.mujweb.cz/www/artpoetry/index.htm -AdHOnoreJesus!- -----P=F9vodn=ED zpr=E1va----- Od: BENT Komu: cajovnik Datum: 12. dubna 1999 10:10 P=F8edm=ECt: Caj: fromtom =20 =20 Vazeni gentlemani, mile damy. Tak Vas tady tak posloucham a nestacim se divit. zatimco jaro = tepe kolkol, z reproduktoru vedle monitoru se linou zlate tona = Armstrongovi trouby, a hluboky sametovy hlas bozsky krasne cernoske lady = hladi srdce povykujete nad neustalou potrebou lidi neco michat, = pribarvovat ci ovonovat. Proc tolik rozruseni, proc tolik silnych slov, = vzdyt treba Jasminovy Ccha je jednim z tradicnich cinskych napoju, = bergamotovy Earl grey je jiz dlouho konzervativnimi Anglicany cenen, = coby umne vyvazena smes nekolika blendu, prosycenych vuni kvetu = bergamotu. A v neposledni rade pomnete na prastary CESKY lek, proslulou to = medicinu z cerneho caje, cukru a rumu vseobecne znamym coby Grog. Mimochodem, slysel jsem ze jisty cinsky zeleny Ccha vyssi sorty = ma svoji charakteristickou vuni diky kvetum rozkvetajicim v okoli = plantaze v dobe sklizne... .... tedy cajnici mili,=20 blahe, vlahe = jaro & =20 = haaaaaaaj TOM =20 ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BE84CE.380FEDD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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   tedy jeho prvni dilko pro = Novinky a=20 teste se na dalsi...
  
   Tak zase prislo = jaro,=20 jako kazdy rok.
  
   
   = Slunce=20 sviti, kvetiny rozkvetaji a pod nohama nam krupaji mrtva
   = ptacatka, cerstve vypadla z hnizd. Vetve stromu a zkazene potraviny=20 na
   nasem balkone se zelenaji. Vstric slunci vyletaji ze=20 smrdutych
   popelnic chuchvalce mladickych much, aby = oslavily=20 nejkrasnejsi cas
   roku a porozhledly se po chutnem=20 vykalu.
  
   Vetsina lidi jaro miluje. = Cloveka=20 fascinuje probouzejici se priroda, a
   tak na oslavu = jejiho=20 znovuzrozeni oskube kere zlateho deste, vytrha ze
   zeme = snezenky,=20 bledule, olame vetvicky stromu, nareze je a hodi do
   vazy = s=20 chlorovanou vodou. Zvlastni oblibe se tesi rozkosne = chlupate
  =20 kocicky, ktere za ucelem zkrasleni sveho pribytku uzurpuje = zimou
  =20 vyhladovelym vcelam a pripravuje je tak o prvni moznost = obzivy.
  =20
   Symbolem jara jsou bezesporu chlupata zlutoucka = kuratka,=20 nemotorne se
   batolici v zelene trave. Clovek jim ovsem = neda=20 prilezitost k
   vylihnuti, protoze slepice pripravi o = moznost=20 sexualniho zivota
   separaci od kohouta. Na Velikonoce jim = navic=20 sebere vejce, uvari
   neoplodnena kuratka natvrdo a za = pomoci=20 chemickych sloucenin jejich
   rakvicky oblece do barev, = ktere=20 slepice urcite puvodne nemely v
   umyslu. Pak orve vrby a = z jejich=20 proutku uplete pomlazky, ktere lze
   zakoupit u starych = babek na=20 trhu mezi panelaky za 25 korun za kus.
   Usetri se tak = spousta=20 casu, ktery se da stravit doma u televize.
   Obarvena = vejce=20 nasledne prechazeji do vlastnictvi zen, zatimco
   pomlazky = do=20 vlastnictvi muzu. Zvlastni je, ze vejce mohou podle
   = tradice=20 prejit z vlastnictvi zen do vlastnictvi muzu za pomoci = mirneho
  =20 fyzickeho nasili s pouzitim pomlazky, zatimco metoda pro=20 transfer
   pomlazek do vlastnictvi zen podle tradice = neexistuje.=20 Na zaver nutno
   poznamenat, ze v posledni dobe clovek = dava pred=20 skutecnymi prednost
   vajickum cokoladovym. Zvlaste pak, = pokud v=20 sobe skryvaji nejakou
   plastikovou ohavnost, rucne = kolorovanou=20 levnou asijskou pracovni
   silou.
   =
  =20 Nedilnou soucasti jara jsou take kotatka. Kocky, vylakane = teplou
  =20 frontou, si v nocnich ulicich zadelavaji na mlade, kterymi nas=20 pak
   nekdy uprostred kvetna potesi. Kotatka vypadaji jako = droboucka,
   roztomila a bezmocna klubicka a clovek se nad = nimi=20 mnohdy roznezni
   natolik, ze mu da i nekolik hodin = premahani, nez=20 je v zajmu
   prirozeneho vyberu druhu = utopi.
  =20
   Topeni kotatek je mozno chapat jako soucast velkolepeho = jarniho
   uklidu, kdy se clovek zbavuje nepotrebnych = kramu.=20 Poctive hospodynky
   oloupou z detskych zidli zaschle = zvykacky a=20 vyluxuji pavouky, umyji
   okna, nalesti linoleum, zametou = a ze=20 skrini vyhodi odevy, ktere jsou
   jim uz male. = Vysokoskolsti=20 studenti si na kolejich otevrou okno a
   vynesou kos. = Programatori=20 si rukavem otrou obrazovku monitoru.
  
   = Obrovskou=20 zmenu zazivaji na jare lavicky v parku. Zatimco pres noc
   = skytaji=20 loze bezdomovcum, ktere teplo vyhnalo z kanalu a = zatuchlych
  =20 nadraznich cekaren, pres den jsou zpovednici milencum, kteri se=20 na
   nich objimaji a muzska cast do nich v zachvatu lasky = ryje=20 kosoctverce.
  
   Ano, malem bych zapomnel - = romantika je, samozrejme, dalsim synonymem
   jara. V touze = po=20 romantickem vztahu nektere divky na svuj oblicej
   = aplikuji=20 kosmetiku a make-up za nekolik set az tisic korun a = natahuji
   si=20 sukne, ktere zakryvaji jen ty casti tela, za jejichz odhaleni = by
  =20 mohly byt stihany pro mravni ohrozovani nezletilych. To je s=20 povdekem
   kvitovano jak stejne romanticky zamerenymi = vilnymi=20 starci, kteri se
   celou zimu na prichod jara jen trasli a = ted se=20 vystavuji riziku
   selhani srdce, tak ostatnimi muzi, = kteri se=20 nestaci divit, co vsechno
   pres zimu narostlo a zvou to = do kin za=20 ucelem tmy.
  
   Muzi a zeny, kteri uz = nemaji vek,=20 chut ci sily venovat se takovym
   cinnostem, mohou vyuzit=20 ziskaneho casu k praci na zahradce. Zeminu je
   treba po = zime=20 vhodne upravit, rozryt a nadopovat umelymi hnojivy,
   = ziravinami a=20 chemikaliemi proti skudcum a nakonec i zeleninou,
   = pripadne=20 kvetenou, ktera ma uz spadeno na alergiky. Totez, ale ve
   = velkem,=20 praktikuji zemedelci, kterym na konci sezony uroda = stejne
  =20 shnije, uschne, zmrzne, nebo ji museji prodat za smesnou = cenu.
  =20
   Alergikum na jare zacina sezona, a tak musi polykat = prasky,=20 chodit na
   injekce, nechodit ven, malo vetrat, vyhybat se = vcelam=20 a vosam, prachu,
   pylu, roztocum a proklinat prirodu se = vsemi=20 jejimi rocnimi obdobimi,
   ovsem se zvlastnim durazem na=20 jaro.
  
   Uz aby zase byla zima.

V Kristu=20 Milan
----------------------------------------------------------------= ---------
Koukni=20 se na stranku o caji:
http://www.angelfire.co= m/ga/caj/caj.html=20
nebo o umeni:
http://www.mujweb.c= z/www/artpoetry/index.htm
-AdHOnoreJesus!-
-----P=F9vodní=20 zpráva-----
Od: BENT <bent@ns1.ipnet.cz>
Komu:=20 cajovnik <caj@dione.zcu.cz>
Datum: = 12.=20 dubna 1999 10:10
P=F8edm=ECt: Caj: = fromtom

Vazeni = gentlemani, mile=20 damy.
    Tak=20 Vas tady tak posloucham a nestacim se divit. zatimco jaro tepe = kolkol, z=20 reproduktoru vedle monitoru se linou zlate tona Armstrongovi trouby, = a=20 hluboky sametovy hlas bozsky krasne cernoske lady hladi srdce = povykujete nad=20 neustalou potrebou lidi neco michat, pribarvovat ci ovonovat. Proc = tolik=20 rozruseni, proc tolik silnych slov, vzdyt treba Jasminovy Ccha je = jednim z=20 tradicnich cinskych napoju, bergamotovy Earl grey je jiz dlouho=20 konzervativnimi Anglicany cenen, coby umne vyvazena smes nekolika = blendu,=20 prosycenych vuni kvetu bergamotu.
A v = neposledni rade=20 pomnete na prastary CESKY lek, proslulou to medicinu z cerneho caje, = cukru a=20 rumu vseobecne znamym coby Grog.
   =20 Mimochodem, slysel jsem ze jisty cinsky zeleny Ccha vyssi sorty ma = svoji=20 charakteristickou vuni diky kvetum rozkvetajicim v okoli plantaze v = dobe=20 sklizne...
          &nbs= p;            = ;         =20 ....   tedy cajnici mili,
          &nbs= p;            = ;            =             &= nbsp;      =20 blahe, vlahe jaro &    
          &nbs= p;            = ;            =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;  =20 haaaaaaaj    TOM
 
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BE84CE.380FEDD0-- >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Apr 12 10:58:42 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA20755; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:58:42 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA20752 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:58:40 +0200 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA13358 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:58:37 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15283 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:58:41 +0200 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 12 Apr 99 10:58:37 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 12 Apr 99 10:58:17 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:58:09 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Mesicni kocka & priprava caje X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <4A51B942FB@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > >Zajimal by me ten cvik na jaky bych mel casem > >prijit. > > No treba se do da tak resit, ze jakmile si nalejes salek, hned do konvice > dolejes vodu (pokud ji mas na stole na ohrivacku). To je jedna moznost, ale ta ma nevyhodu, ze u silnejsich caju nebo kdyz ti nasypou vice caje, tak ani tak to nestihas (stejne ti to po case vyrazi zuby). Dalsi moznosti je, ze si zazadas u obsluhy, aby ti dali listky do konvicky, ale nezalevali ti je vodou a pak uz je to na tobe. A treti, tu praktikuji ted, je princip ruskeho samovaru, tj. ze z konvicky si naleju, necham tam trosku mista a to doleju horkou vodou. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Apr 12 11:21:54 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA20870; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:21:54 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA20867 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:21:52 +0200 Received: from kanec.linux (kanec.plemdat.czn.cz [194.213.228.200]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA13967 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:21:24 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from milan (milan.plemdat.czn.cz [223.45.6.152]) by kanec.linux (8.8.5/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id LAA31792 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:22:26 +0200 Message-ID: <003001be84c5$dfa26c20$98062ddf@milan> From: "=?iso-8859-2?Q?Milan_=C8ervenka?=" To: Subject: Re: Re: Caj: Mesicni kocka & priprava caje Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:21:40 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz A treti, tu >praktikuji ted, je princip ruskeho samovaru, tj. ze z konvicky si naleju, >necham tam trosku mista a to doleju horkou vodou. tak sem to myslel V Kristu Milan ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Koukni se na stranku o caji: http://www.angelfire.com/ga/caj/caj.html nebo o umeni: http://www.mujweb.cz/www/artpoetry/index.htm -AdHOnoreJesus!- >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Apr 12 12:02:35 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA21005; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:02:35 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA21002 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:02:34 +0200 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA16788 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:02:33 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA24594 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:02:37 +0200 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 12 Apr 99 12:02:33 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 12 Apr 99 12:02:31 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:02:24 +100 Subject: Re: Re: Caj: Mesicni kocka & priprava caje X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <4B63D52560@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > >A treti, tu > >praktikuji ted, je princip ruskeho samovaru, tj. ze z konvicky si naleju, > >necham tam trosku mista a to doleju horkou vodou. > > tak sem to myslel Ech, aby nevznikly nejasnosti. Jedna moznost...naleji caj a vodu doleji do KONVICKY. Druha moznost...tu jsem mel na mysli...naleji caj a v SALKU necham trochu mista na zredeni vodou (kterou tam tedy take ihned doleju). Uf :-) Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Apr 12 17:45:16 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA22502; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:45:16 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA22499 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:45:14 +0200 Received: from ns1.ipnet.cz (ns1.ipnet.cz [212.20.64.2]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA32283 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:45:11 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pent-200 ([212.20.68.53]) by ns1.ipnet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA07251 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:45:06 +0200 Message-ID: <004501be84f9$b285f840$354414d4@pent-200> From: "BENT" To: Subject: Re: Caj: [pesteni fromtom] Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:30:53 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Datum: 16. března 1999 18:20 Předmět: Re: Caj: [zadny subject] Nemohl by mi nekdo prosim poskytnout informace o pestovani cajovniku v nasich podminkach >> a kde by ho bylo mozne popripade sehnat? >> Diky Pepe Camelia sinensis je k mani v prazske botanicke zahrade za cca 40,- Kc, nebo alespon byl v dobe kol listopadu 98. Pesteni je pomerne dobre popsano v ruznych knihach s cajovou tematikou jako napr. Vune caje. Z vlastnich zkusenosti bych uvedl jen par dodatku: V obdobi zimy vyzaduji Camelie vegetacni klid. Jsou odolne proti mrazu, nemel-by vsak klesnout do teplot pod -5°C, (nektere mutace zvladaji az -10°C).V tomto obdobi pro ne neni pripustna pokojova teplota, pri ktere listy zhnednou, zkrouti se a nasledne kerik definitivne odumira. Je tedy dobre mit Camelii zasazenou v prenosne nadobe, na zimu ji umistit do bezmraze mistnosti pri teplotach mezi 0 - 10°C, a to radeji do temnejsiho kouta, nez ji vystavyt za oknem paprskum slunce. Prime paprsky ostatne nema rada ani v lete a proto je lepsi ji na jare postupne zvykat na venkovni klima a v lete ji umistit pod vetve vyssich stromu, ktere prudke svetlo rozlozi a zjemni jej listy. Camelia mohou take napadnout ruzni cizopasnici. O tech ovsem zatim nemohu z vlastnich zkusenosti nic konkretniho napsat, ovsem myslim ze dost odkazu bude obsahovat literatura o cameliich nebo o subtropickych rostlinach. Mnoho podrobnosti tykajicich se pesteni kultivovani a sklizeni camelie sinensis ovsem prinalezi osobitosti pestitele a je vykoupeno opojnou vuni kvetu a nezamenitelnou chuti vlastniho Ccha. Hodne pestitelskych uspechu Tom >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Apr 12 20:20:29 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA23125; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 20:20:29 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA23122 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 20:20:27 +0200 Received: from ns.seznam.cz (ns.seznam.cz [195.39.10.2]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA03964 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 20:20:26 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from lizard (nymD014.pvt.net [194.149.97.206]) by ns.seznam.cz (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA07194; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:20:09 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.16.19990412201947.0cef31a6@pop3.seznam.cz> X-Sender: petrnon@pop3.seznam.cz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (16) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 20:19:47 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz From: PetrNovak Subject: Re: Caj: Kokeicha Cc: jancik@mendelu.cz In-Reply-To: References: <004801be80f4$2ce39340$98062ddf@milan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Dobry den, ke zminenemu zpusobu pripravy Lokeichy jsem slibil dat ve znamost svou zkusenost. Ve strucnosti se da rici, ze podle vysledku meho pokusu kvalita zakto ziskaneho napoje neutrpi (pri zachovani vsech beznych pravidel) a jedinou vadou na krase by mohlo byt to, ze takto vyrobeny caj je vyrazne zakaleny. Je jen otazkou, zda je ucelne ho pak filtrovat, nebot nejtezsi castice stejne po urcite dobe klesnou ke dnu. Nejsem zas takovy znalec, ale neco podobneho se snad praktikuje pri urcite forme cajoveho obradu. Pouzivany caj snad take byva prachovy. Budu rad, pokud mne v teto veci nekdo doplni nebo vyvede z omylu. Zdravim cajomilce Petr Novak At 15:31 7.4.1999 +0200, you wrote: > >Dobry den pozivacum caje. > >Chci se s Vami podelit o jeden zpusob pripravy caje, >o nemz si nejsem jist, zda je spravny -- slyselt jsem >jej totizto toliko z jedineho zdroje... >... konvicky urcene k popijeni pres soupravu hustych sitek, >aby vetsina blata nesla do nalevu. Nalev je silny, >nepruhledny, dobry. > >Co na to prisedici cajomilove? > >Ivos. > >------------------------------ >jancik@mendelu.cz >http://dahlia.mendelu.cz/~jancik > S pozdravem Petr Novak >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Apr 12 21:17:24 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA23517; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:17:24 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA23514 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:17:23 +0200 Received: from ns.seznam.cz (ns.seznam.cz [195.39.10.2]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA06883 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:17:22 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from lizard (nymD014.pvt.net [194.149.97.206]) by ns.seznam.cz (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA08136 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:17:09 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.16.19990412211647.0b3f76a8@pop3.seznam.cz> X-Sender: petrnon@pop3.seznam.cz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (16) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:16:47 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz From: PetrNovak Subject: Caj: Ad Kokeicha ... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Drobne upresneni, muj predesly prispevek se samozrejme tykal K o k e i ch i a ne Lokeichy (ty preklepy... ). S pozdravem Petr Novak >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Apr 13 11:59:37 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA26191; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:59:37 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA26188 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:59:35 +0200 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA25815 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:59:34 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24529 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:59:35 +0200 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 13 Apr 99 11:59:30 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 13 Apr 99 11:59:12 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:59:05 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: pesteni X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <105DDA7FC3@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Z vlastnich zkusenosti bych uvedl jen par dodatku: To je skvele. Jeste bych prosil, kdyz uz je rec o prenosne nadobe na rostlinku, s jak asitak velkymi kvetinaci by mel clovek pocitat? Kvuli tomu prenaseni apod. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Apr 13 12:01:02 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA26221; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:01:02 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA26218 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:01:01 +0200 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA26753 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:01:00 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA24688 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:01:04 +0200 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 13 Apr 99 12:01:00 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 13 Apr 99 12:00:33 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:00:31 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Kokeicha X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <10639F0296@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Nejsem zas takovy znalec, ale neco podobneho se snad praktikuje pri > urcite forme cajoveho obradu. Pouzivany caj snad take byva prachovy. Budu > rad, pokud mne v teto veci nekdo doplni nebo vyvede z omylu. Jo jo jo jo, a zove se to Matcha. Chut dobra, konzistence mirne blativa. Urcite o tom bude spousta WWW. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Apr 13 14:42:50 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA26683; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 14:42:50 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA26680 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 14:42:49 +0200 Received: from kanec.linux (kanec.plemdat.czn.cz [194.213.228.200]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA03678 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 14:42:32 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from milan (milan.plemdat.czn.cz [223.45.6.152]) by kanec.linux (8.8.5/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id OAA06693 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 14:43:33 +0200 Message-ID: <003201be85ab$23722ea0$98062ddf@milan> From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Milan_=C8ervenka?=" To: Subject: Re: Caj: [pesteni fromtom] Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 14:42:49 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Mnoho podrobnosti tykajicich se pesteni >kultivovani a sklizeni camelie sinensis ovsem prinalezi osobitosti pestitele >a je vykoupeno opojnou vuni kvetu a nezamenitelnou chuti vlastniho Ccha. Ty uz jsi sklizel vlastni ccha? Jak chutnal? V Kristu Milan ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Koukni se na stranku o caji: http://www.angelfire.com/ga/caj/caj.html nebo o umeni: http://www.mujweb.cz/www/artpoetry/index.htm -AdHOnoreJesus!- > >Tom >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Apr 13 15:29:13 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA26882; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 15:29:13 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA26879 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 15:29:11 +0200 Received: from sun.fsid.cvut.cz (sun.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA06343 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 15:29:11 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from student.fsid.cvut.cz (student.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.3]) by sun.fsid.cvut.cz (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA24626 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:29:07 GMT Received: from FSICD1/SpoolDir by student.fsid.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.21); 13 Apr 99 15:29:07 MET-1MEST Received: from SpoolDir by FSICD1 (Mercury 1.21); 13 Apr 99 15:28:51 MET-1MEST From: "Jan Kasparek, cajomilec, student" Organization: FSI CVUT, Prague To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 15:28:49 MET-1MEST Subject: Re: Caj: Kokeicha X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-ID: Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Chci se s Vami podelit o jeden zpusob pripravy caje, > o nemz si nejsem jist, zda je spravny -- slyselt jsem > jej totizto toliko z jedineho zdroje. > > Druhdy jsem si pri navsteve olomoucke Drevene panny > zakoupil mistni vazeny Kokeicha a veskrze vstricny Co se tyce teto pripravy kokeichi, jsem opravdu prekvapen, co vsechno je v cajovem svete mozne. Ale stale se ucim neco noveho a tak mi i tato informace opet trochu rozsirila obzory, ikdyz se musim priznat, ze zde zverejnene prirovnani k vyrobe matchi z kokeichi neni v tomto pripade tak daleko od pravdy. A co teprve to kakao :)) Kokeicha byl jeden z mych prvnich lepsich :-) zelenych caju a musim rici, ze i s pomoci klasickych postupu pripravy chutnal dobre a i dnes si rad osvezim pamet jednim ci dvema salky. Jenom pro zajimavost, cajovy prach se nejenom lisuje, ale jeste zpevnuje pomoci napr. ryzoveho "skrobu". Zdravi vsechny STRAKA ________________________________ Jan Straka Kasparek E-mail: kasparek@student.fsid.cvut.cz http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek Chcete poslat sve ci cizi dite na letni tabor?? http://nwit.pedf.cuni.cz/petrj7xm/index.htm >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Apr 15 08:17:31 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA01616; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:17:31 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA01613 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:17:29 +0200 From: LToman@zivpo.cz Received: from zp999a.zivpo.cz (ms.zivpo.cz [195.146.106.228]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA26803 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:17:27 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by ms.zivpo.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <2SWB7SCK>; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:17:25 +0200 Message-ID: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A39015705FC@PUEX1C1> To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Trochu off-topic - Medovina Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:17:13 +0200 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Vazeni, kdysi tady probehla diskuse na tema medovina a nekteri lide shaneli recepty. Na Svetu namodro se dnes objevil recept na pripravu medoviny. Tak sem posilam URL http://svet.namodro.cz/go/r-art.asp?id=990414014 Galenius >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Apr 15 10:23:27 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA02045; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:23:27 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA02042 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:23:25 +0200 From: SEVEROVA@gytool.cz Received: from power.ol.cesnet.cz ([194.212.160.147]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA02454 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:23:25 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mailer.gytool.cz (gh-2.gytool.cz [194.212.37.22]) by power.ol.cesnet.cz (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id LAA38510 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:22:38 +0200 (DFT) Received: from GH-2/SpoolDir by mailer.gytool.cz (Mercury 1.44); 15 Apr 99 10:23:18 MET +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by GH-2 (Mercury 1.44); 15 Apr 99 10:23:05 MET +0100 Organization: Gymnazium, Olomouci-Hejcin, CZ To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:22:59 MET +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Caj: Trochu off-topic - Medovina X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.40 Message-ID: <760D680074@mailer.gytool.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ja tu stranku nejak nemuzu otevrit, pry spatna adresa????SASA > Vazeni, kdysi tady probehla diskuse na tema medovina a nekteri lide shaneli > recepty. Na Svetu namodro se dnes objevil recept na pripravu medoviny. Tak > sem posilam URL > > http://svet.namodro.cz/go/r-art.asp?id=990414014 > > Galenius > >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Apr 15 10:29:07 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA02101; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:29:07 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA02098 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:29:06 +0200 From: LToman@zivpo.cz Received: from zp999a.zivpo.cz (ms.zivpo.cz [195.146.106.228]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA01613 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:29:02 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by ms.zivpo.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <2SWB7SF2>; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:29:02 +0200 Message-ID: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A39015705FF@PUEX1C1> To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: RE: Caj: Trochu off-topic - Medovina Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:28:17 +0200 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Ja tu stranku nejak nemuzu otevrit, pry spatna adresa????SASA > > > Vazeni, kdysi tady probehla diskuse na tema medovina a > nekteri lide shaneli > > recepty. Na Svetu namodro se dnes objevil recept na > pripravu medoviny. Tak > > sem posilam URL > > > > http://svet.namodro.cz/go/r-art.asp?id=990414014 > > > > Galenius > > > V tom pripade doporucuju http://svet.namodro.cz a tam si to najit >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Apr 15 13:34:03 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA02775; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:34:03 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA02772 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:34:01 +0200 Received: from kanec.linux (kanec.plemdat.czn.cz [194.213.228.200]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA13521 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:33:19 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from milan (milan.plemdat.czn.cz [223.45.6.152]) by kanec.linux (8.8.5/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id NAA00854 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:34:02 +0200 Message-ID: <001a01be8733$c95eaee0$98062ddf@milan> From: "=?iso-8859-2?Q?Milan_=C8ervenka?=" To: Subject: Caj: podivna cajovna Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:33:22 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01BE8744.885B18F0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Toto je zpráva ve formátu MIME obsahující několik částí. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BE8744.885B18F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mili cajovi spolumilci, nechci aby to vypadalo ze furt nadavam na DC, ale takhle jsem pochodil = vcera na Vaclavaku: Ja zertovne u pultu: Dobry den, koupil bych si s sebou jednu davku = kandovaneho zazvoru.=20 Cajoch: To vam neprodam, to podavame jen tady. Ja uz mene zertovne: Tak mi teda misticku doneste, ja si to nasypu do = kapsy. Cajoch v narvane cajovne: To vam nedonesu. Posadte se, ja vam donesu = listek vyberete si caj ... .... jeste jednou mi to vysvetlil, mne presla chut a odesel jsem. Pri = vychodu sem si este stacil vsimnout vyprodeje lun tingu "zarucene" = dovezeneho a vyrobeneho pro spolek milcu jak hlasal nalepeny stitek. Z toho plyne ze=20 a, zazvor je strategickym produktem DC, ktery smi byt ven vynasem pouze = v zaludku popr. ve strevech b, prazske DC dale klesaji v me oblibe c, v Tabore by se to patrne nestalo (jednou mi tam dokonce ochotne = navazili pouze 1dkg pu-erhu) Pokud budete shanet v Praze cajovnik v botanicke zahrade, tak se Na = Slupi nenamahejte. Udajne ho maj v Troji, ale tam sem se uz nedostal. Na zaver vas jeste chci varovat pred prazskou MHD. Pri stipani listku se = presvedcte co vam to vlastne vytisklo na listek. Usetrite narozdil ode = mne treba 200Kc. Autobus kde sem si natisk jizdenku mel o hodinu = zpozdeny strojek a revizor v metru mi to pochopitelne neveril.=20 Prozijte lepsi den nez ja vcera V Kristu Milan 19.4. Faustuv dum 19,ooh Klasova, Brabec, Cervenka - cteni ze spolecne = sbirky, vystoupi skupina XET, vstup volny, vsichni zvani -------------------------------------------------------------------------= Koukni se na stranku o caji: http://www.angelfire.com/ga/caj/caj.html=20 nebo o umeni: http://www.mujweb.cz/www/artpoetry/index.htm -AdHOnoreJesus!- ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BE8744.885B18F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mili cajovi spolumilci,
nechci aby to vypadalo ze furt nadavam na DC, ale takhle jsem = pochodil=20 vcera na Vaclavaku:
Ja zertovne u pultu: Dobry den, koupil bych si s sebou jednu davku=20 kandovaneho zazvoru.
Cajoch: To vam neprodam, to podavame jen tady.
Ja uz mene zertovne: Tak mi teda misticku doneste, ja si to nasypu = do=20 kapsy.
Cajoch v narvane cajovne: To vam nedonesu. Posadte se, ja vam = donesu listek=20 vyberete si caj ...
.... jeste jednou mi to vysvetlil, mne presla chut a odesel jsem. = Pri=20 vychodu sem si este stacil vsimnout vyprodeje lun tingu = "zarucene"=20 dovezeneho a vyrobeneho pro spolek milcu jak hlasal nalepeny = stitek.
Z toho plyne ze
a, zazvor je strategickym produktem DC, ktery smi byt ven vynasem = pouze v=20 zaludku popr. ve strevech
b, prazske DC dale klesaji v me oblibe
c, v Tabore by se to patrne nestalo (jednou mi tam dokonce ochotne = navazili=20 pouze 1dkg pu-erhu)
 
Pokud budete shanet v Praze cajovnik v botanicke zahrade, tak se Na = Slupi=20 nenamahejte. Udajne ho maj v Troji, ale tam sem se uz nedostal.
 
Na zaver vas jeste chci varovat pred prazskou MHD. Pri stipani = listku se=20 presvedcte co vam to vlastne vytisklo na listek. Usetrite narozdil ode = mne treba=20 200Kc. Autobus kde sem si natisk jizdenku mel o hodinu zpozdeny strojek = a=20 revizor v metru mi to pochopitelne neveril. 
 
Prozijte lepsi den nez ja vcera
V Kristu Milan
 
19.4. Faustuv dum 19,ooh = Klasova,=20 Brabec, Cervenka - cteni ze spolecne sbirky, vystoupi skupina XET, vstup = volny,=20 vsichni=20 zvani
---------------------------------------------------------= ----------------
Koukni=20 se na stranku o caji:
http://www.angelfire.co= m/ga/caj/caj.html=20
nebo o umeni:
http://www.mujweb.c= z/www/artpoetry/index.htm
-AdHOnoreJesus!-
 
------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BE8744.885B18F0-- >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Apr 15 13:46:42 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA02846; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:46:42 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA02843 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:46:40 +0200 From: LToman@zivpo.cz Received: from zp999a.zivpo.cz (ms.zivpo.cz [195.146.106.228]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA13937 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:46:39 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by ms.zivpo.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <2SWB7SKV>; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:46:33 +0200 Message-ID: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A3901570601@PUEX1C1> To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: RE: podivna cajovna Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:45:36 +0200 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz >Mili cajovi spolumilci, >nechci aby to vypadalo ze furt nadavam na DC, ale takhle jsem pochodil vcera na Vaclavaku: >Ja zertovne u pultu: Dobry den, koupil bych si s sebou jednu davku kandovaneho zazvoru. >Cajoch: To vam neprodam, to podavame jen tady. >Ja uz mene zertovne: Tak mi teda misticku doneste, ja si to nasypu do kapsy. >Cajoch v narvane cajovne: To vam nedonesu. Posadte se, ja vam donesu listek vyberete si caj ... >.... jeste jednou mi to vysvetlil, mne presla chut a odesel jsem. Pri vychodu sem si este >stacil vsimnout vyprodeje lun tingu "zarucene" dovezeneho a vyrobeneho pro spolek milcu jak >hlasal nalepeny stitek. >Z toho plyne ze >a, zazvor je strategickym produktem DC, ktery smi byt ven vynasem pouze v zaludku popr. ve strevech >b, prazske DC dale klesaji v me oblibe >c, v Tabore by se to patrne nestalo (jednou mi tam dokonce ochotne navazili pouze 1dkg pu-erhu) Hm... zajimave... Kandovanej zazvor, japonskou smes atd. jsem uz v Pardubicke DC kupoval nekolikrat a bez nejmensich problemu... Galenius >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Apr 15 14:11:40 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA03050; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:11:40 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA03047 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:11:39 +0200 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA14251 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:11:38 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA09745 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:11:43 +0200 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 15 Apr 99 14:11:39 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 15 Apr 99 14:11:22 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:11:18 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: podivna cajovna X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <4293124DDE@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Mili cajovi spolumilci, > nechci aby to vypadalo ze furt nadavam na DC, ale takhle jsem pochodil > vcera na Vaclavaku: > Ja zertovne u pultu: Dobry den, koupil bych si s sebou jednu davku > kandovaneho zazvoru. > Cajoch: To vam neprodam, to podavame jen tady. > Ja uz mene zertovne: Tak mi teda misticku doneste, ja si to nasypu do > kapsy. > Cajoch v narvane cajovne: To vam nedonesu. Posadte se, ja vam donesu > listek vyberete si caj ... > .... jeste jednou mi to vysvetlil, mne presla chut a odesel jsem. Pri > vychodu sem si este stacil vsimnout vyprodeje lun tingu "zarucene" > dovezeneho a vyrobeneho pro spolek milcu jak hlasal nalepeny stitek. > Z toho plyne ze > a, zazvor je strategickym produktem DC, ktery smi byt ven vynasem pouze > v zaludku popr. ve strevech > b, prazske DC dale klesaji v me oblibe > c, v Tabore by se to patrne nestalo (jednou mi tam dokonce ochotne > navazili pouze 1dkg pu-erhu) Mmmm, skoda, ze si obcas DC odhani zakazniky. Ale tohle bych typoval spise na konkretni osobu, jsem tam pomerne casto a nektere uz i znam, o vstricnost tam vetsinou nebyva nouze. Zkus mi soukrome napsat popis osoby a ja ti soukrome napisu, zda to sedi...at to neni, ze nekoho pomlouvame a at tupe chovani jednotlivce nepostihne zbytecne i ostatni cajochy. Jinak ten Lung Ting je pravdivym produktem. Skutecne je dovazen primo pro DC, je vytecny a ta sleva je zpusobena (pry) tim, ze je sam o sobe dost drahy a nez aby se znehodnotil casem, radeji ho prodaji se slevou. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Apr 16 02:13:01 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id CAA04793; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 02:13:01 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from eros.zcu.cz (eros.zcu.cz [147.228.1.10]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA04790 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 02:12:59 +0200 Received: from conan.asysijd.cz (mail@server.asysijd.cz [195.75.66.161]) by eros.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA11766 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 02:12:58 +0200 Received: from kol-dial2.asysijd.cz (asysijd.cz) [195.75.66.12] by conan.asysijd.cz with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 10Xw2u-0002lf-00; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 01:59:48 +0200 Message-ID: <37165285.4AD63236@asysijd.cz> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:56:37 +0200 From: Jan Bourek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: - Cajovy Dychanek - , "Václav Cikán" Subject: Caj: Long Dragon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-user-defined Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Bore da, zrovna si popisuji prachovnice s caji a dosla rada na caj Long Dragon. Predtim jsem popisoval Tai Mu Long Zhu, coz znamena Draci oci. Je to caj z oblasti hory Tai Mu. To tedy znamena, ze prvni dve slova v nazvu udavaji oblast, zbyla dve asi jmeno caje. Vzhledem k tomu, ze Long Jing je Draci studna => slovo Long musi znamenat Drak. Pak Jing je Studna, Zhu jsou Oci. Zatim je vse jasne? Dobra tedy k veci. Neni nahodou nazev caje Long Dragon pouze jeden vyznam a to Drak? Vsechny caje jsou koupene od pana Cikana z Brna. On na svych strankach uvadi preklad pro Long Dragon = Dlouhy Drak. Nejak mi to nestymuje. Vychazim-li z predpokladu, ze jsou vsechny nazvy caju na techto strankach napsane v oficialni transkripci pchin-jin, tak by tento caj mel nazev Drak, ale chybi zde cesky preklad a je tu pouze anglicky Dragon. Vychazim-li vsak z toho, ze tento caj je zde napsan anglicky, odpovida mu jmeno Dlouhy Drak. Je vsak dosti nelogicke, ze pouze tento caj by zde byl uveden anglicky a ostatni v pchin-jinu. Mohli by mi nekdo tuto situaci objasnit? Mozna by vedel pan Cikan, jemuz bych rad vzkazal, ze caje jsou vyborne. A nakonec jedna poznamkam. V knize Vsechny caje Ciny jsem objevil pouze Draci Studnu, o Dracich ocich a Drakovi zde neni ani slovicko. doufam, ze jsem se vyjadril dostatecne exaktne a spolecne najdeme reseni *JB* >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Apr 16 09:13:49 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA05707; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:13:49 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA05704 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:13:47 +0200 Received: from kanec.linux (kanec.plemdat.czn.cz [194.213.228.200]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA06225 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:13:43 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from milan (milan.plemdat.czn.cz [223.45.6.152]) by kanec.linux (8.8.5/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id JAA05676 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:14:41 +0200 Message-ID: <000601be87d8$b3d3a3f0$98062ddf@milan> From: "=?x-user-defined?Q?Milan_=C8ervenka?=" To: Subject: Caj: =?x-user-defined?Q?gunpowderem_proti_nachlazen=ED_=3F?= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:14:00 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="x-user-defined" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Drazi cajomilci, je mi vselijak nastydle a tak se to snazim mimo jine prekonat i cajem. Myslim, ze Sasa o tom neco psala. Zajimali by me i zkusenosti ostatnich. Dik za povzbuzeni. V Kristu Milan ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Koukni se na stranku o caji: http://www.angelfire.com/ga/caj/caj.html nebo o umeni: http://www.mujweb.cz/www/artpoetry/index.htm -AdHOnoreJesus!- >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Apr 16 09:32:27 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA05870; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:32:27 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA05867 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:32:25 +0200 Received: from kiv.zcu.cz (ur404p01-rek.rek.zcu.cz [147.228.71.108]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA06821; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:32:24 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3716E790.E1A18897@kiv.zcu.cz> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:32:32 +0200 From: Pavel Baxa Organization: ZCU Plzen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: cs,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: gunpowderem proti =?iso-8859-1?Q?nachlazen=ED?= ? References: <000601be87d8$b3d3a3f0$98062ddf@milan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Milan Cervenka wrote: > Drazi cajomilci, je mi vselijak nastydle a tak se to snazim mimo jine > prekonat i cajem. Myslim, ze Sasa o tom neco psala. Zajimali by me i > zkusenosti ostatnich. Dik za povzbuzeni. Ja caj jako lek proti nachlazeni pouzivam celkem uspesne. a) je to horke => zahreje to, b) je v tom voda => funguje to jako prisun tekutin, coz je nesmirne dulezite pro organismus (alespon ten muj) - nesmi to ale byt prilis trislovity zeleny caj - ten me naopak dehydruje, c) je v tom kofein => povzbuzuje to, coz se lehce nemocnemu vzdycky hodi, d) jsou v tom vitaminy a mnoho dalsich telu prospesnych latek => zvysuje se odolnost organismu, takze se mu proti zakerne chripce lepe bojuje, e) piti caje ve mne vyvolava pocit vnitrniho klidu a rovnovahy => citim se lepe a telo ochotneji bojuje, f) nesmirne dulezity je i placebo efekt - ja proste verim, ze me ten caj leci, dokonce mu to pred pitim vysvetlim: "jsi caj dobry, caj lecivy, caj hojivy, pomahas, uzdravujes, cistis, atd." a predstavuji si, jak prochazi mym telem a kudy chodi, tudy leci... > V Kristu Milan V samanske extazi Pavel B. >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Apr 16 12:25:12 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA06453; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:25:12 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA06450 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:25:10 +0200 Received: from matsrv.math.cas.cz (IDENT:kasal@math-gw.math.cas.cz [147.231.89.66]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA13516 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:25:10 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from kasal@localhost) by matsrv.math.cas.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA01864 for caj@dione.zcu.cz; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:25:09 +0200 From: Stepan Kasal Message-Id: <199904161025.MAA01864@matsrv.math.cas.cz> Subject: Re: Caj: Long Dragon To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:25:08 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <37165285.4AD63236@asysijd.cz> from "Jan Bourek" at Apr 15, 99 10:56:37 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Bore da, Da. > Zhu jsou Oci. Doplnil bych, ze Dobra Cajovna zve Gunpowder Zhu Cha, Perlovy caj. Takze Zhu by taky mohla byt perla a Tai Mu Long Zhu Cha treba Draci perly nebo Perly Draka od hory Tai Mu, jak jsem myslim kdesi slysel. Mimochodem, libylo by se mi to vic, nez se bychom pro sve pozitky vydoubavali nejakym nebohym drackum ocicka. At tak nebo tak, vyraz Zhu asi popisuje nejake male kulicky. K otazce Long Dragon: existuje caj, ktery kupuji s anglickym nazvem: Bila Opice, alias White Monkey. Treba je to s tim Tvym cajem podobne. Stepan >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Apr 16 22:21:06 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA08139; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 22:21:06 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA08136 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 22:21:03 +0200 Received: from firma.seznam.cz (robot.seznam.cz [195.119.180.20]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA28162 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 22:21:02 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (qmail 32727 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 20:20:53 -0000 Received: from nymd008.pvt.net (HELO lizard) (194.149.97.200) by 192.168.1.20 with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 20:20:53 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.6.16.19990416222027.0d677114@pop3.seznam.cz> X-Sender: petrnon@pop3.seznam.cz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (16) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 22:20:27 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz From: PetrNovak Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Caj:_gunpowderem_proti_nachlazen=ED_=3F?= In-Reply-To: <3716E790.E1A18897@kiv.zcu.cz> References: <000601be87d8$b3d3a3f0$98062ddf@milan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz At 09:32 16.4.1999 +0200, you wrote: > >Milan Cervenka wrote: >> Drazi cajomilci, je mi vselijak nastydle a tak se to snazim mimo jine >> prekonat i cajem. Myslim, ze Sasa o tom neco psala. Zajimali by me i >> zkusenosti ostatnich. Dik za povzbuzeni. > >Ja caj jako lek proti nachlazeni pouzivam celkem uspesne. >a) je to horke => zahreje to, >b) je v tom voda => funguje to jako prisun tekutin, > >> V Kristu Milan > >V samanske extazi Pavel B. > Zdravim cajomilce, ano, myslim, ze je dobre pohovorit i o tom, jake ucinky ma pozivani caje. Priznam se, ze pro mne to bylo dost podstatne, nebot v jiste dobe jsem mel zdravotni potize. Od doby, kdy jsem zacal s vydatnym pitim caju predevsim zelenych, dovoluji si rici, ze vseobecne priznive pusobeni mohu potvrdit. Tedy v mem pripade bylo piti caju nejprve nutnosti. Ovsem jiz od zacatku jsem zijstil, ze to je velice prijemny zazitek. Pozdeji jsem zaznamenal, ze povzbuzujici ucinky caju jsou, jinymi mne znamymi prostredky, nedosazitelne. Tim snad mohu tuto odu na caj ukoncit. S pozdravem Petr Novak >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Apr 16 23:13:22 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA08274; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:13:22 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA08271 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:13:20 +0200 From: jaslo@gratex.sk Received: from relay.gtinet.sk (IDENT:root@relay.gtinet.sk [195.98.128.10]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA28684 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:13:19 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sentinel.gratex.sk (mail.gratex.sk [195.98.128.40]) by relay.gtinet.sk with ESMTP id XAA15243 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:13:13 +0200 Received: by SENTINEL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:13:13 +0200 Message-ID: To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Kung fu Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:13:10 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Mam na ctene kolegium cajomilcov jednu otazku. V knihe Vsechny caje Ciny sa na str. 67 hovori o priprave kung-fu takto: Cajovy& servis... sestava.... ctyr salku bez ousek, velkych jako polovina orechove skorapky. Prosim vas, aky orech mali autori na mysli? Obycajny? Nie su to apropos, moze mi niekto napisat nieco viac o priprave kung-fu? Z toho opisu v knihe som nebol velmi mudry... Dakujem za kazdu informaciu Marian Jaslovsky >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Apr 20 12:41:41 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA18129; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:41:41 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA18126 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:41:38 +0200 Received: from artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz (jazyk@artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz [195.113.31.125]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA11074 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:41:38 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from jazyk@localhost) by artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA10211 for caj@dione.zcu.cz; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:41:38 +0200 Message-ID: <19990420124138.A10173@artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:41:38 +0200 From: Karel Mokry To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Draci oci Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93i Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Jak si Draci oci pripravujete? (voda - kolik, oC, mnozstvi caje) Neni nekde k mani seznam caju a orientacni zpusob priprvy ? Ja vim, ze kazdemu chutna jinak udelany caj, lec kdyz se mi do ruky dostane nejaky caj a nemam o jeho priprave prehled, tak zbytecne urcite mnozstvi zkazim. V krajnim pripade vsechen. A pritom staci tak malo. Pokud takovy seznam neni, navrhuji ho vytvorit. Takovy navrh se zde jiz myslim vyskytl, ale byl zamluven. Coz je skoda. Mejte a smejte se hezky. PS: neni tu nejak prazdno? nebo vsichni tak pijete caj, ze nemate cas? -- jazyk@artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Karel.Mokry@usa.net >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Apr 20 13:03:28 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA18192; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:03:28 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA18189 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:03:27 +0200 From: LToman@zivpo.cz Received: from zp999a.zivpo.cz (ms.zivpo.cz [195.146.106.228]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA11971 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:03:26 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by ms.zivpo.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:03:24 +0200 Message-ID: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A3901570627@PUEX1C1> To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: RE: Draci oci Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:03:06 +0200 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Jak si Draci oci pripravujete? > (voda - kolik, oC, mnozstvi caje) No, ja vetsinou davam cca. 10 kulicek a voda dle chuti... > Neni nekde k mani seznam caju a orientacni zpusob priprvy ? > Ja vim, ze kazdemu chutna jinak udelany caj, lec kdyz se mi > do ruky dostane > nejaky caj a nemam o jeho priprave prehled, tak zbytecne > urcite mnozstvi zkazim. Cviceni je casto nejlepsim resenim. > V krajnim pripade vsechen. A pritom staci tak malo. Malo? Ne. Mnoho. > Pokud takovy seznam neni, navrhuji ho vytvorit. Takovy navrh > se zde jiz myslim > vyskytl, ale byl zamluven. Coz je skoda. Nelze vytvorit. Kazdemu chutna neco jineho. Galenius >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Apr 20 13:13:47 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA18242; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:13:47 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA18239 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:13:46 +0200 Received: from primus.hob.cz ([194.108.46.244]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA12713 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:13:42 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by primus.hob.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:13:11 +0200 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?H=E1jek_Ctirad?= To: "'caj@dione.zcu.cz'" Subject: Caj: RE: Draci oci Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:12:21 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id NAA18240 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Draci oci je muj oblibeny caj v cajovne v Plachovce v Plzni. Podava se v tridilne jihocinske misce. (ryzovy porcelan) Ja postupuji v priprave takto: Zaleji 10 cajovych perel horkou vodou tak, aby byly prave ponoreny - ne vice! a zakryji poklickou. Pockam 5 minut. Poklicku odkryji a zaliji opet vodou. Vodu mam porad tu samou v jedne konvicce. Zakryji na chvili poklickou a potom mohu zacit pit. Nikdy nedopijim do dna, listky necham vzdy lehce ponorene, potom znovu doliji. Takto udelam 4 nalevy. Potom uz mam pocit, ze to chce opet horkou vodu. Ta puvodni mezitim vychladla. S horkou vodou jiz udelam pouze jeden nalev. Tak, popis je to snad dost podrobny a zkuseny cajomilec to jiste zvladne. Ctirad > ---------- > Odesílatel: Karel Mokry[SMTP:jazyk@artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz] > Odpovědi: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Odesláno: 20. dubna 1999 12:41 > Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Předmět: Caj: Draci oci > > Jak si Draci oci pripravujete? > (voda - kolik, oC, mnozstvi caje) > - > jazyk@artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz > Karel.Mokry@usa.net > >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Apr 20 15:23:07 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA18651; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:23:07 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA18648 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:23:06 +0200 From: SEVEROVA@gytool.cz Received: from power.ol.cesnet.cz ([194.212.160.147]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA19789 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:23:06 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mailer.gytool.cz (gh-2.gytool.cz [194.212.37.22]) by power.ol.cesnet.cz (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id QAA12894 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:22:17 +0200 (DFT) Received: from GH-2/SpoolDir by mailer.gytool.cz (Mercury 1.44); 20 Apr 99 15:23:05 MET +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by GH-2 (Mercury 1.44); 20 Apr 99 15:22:42 MET +0100 Organization: Gymnazium, Olomouci-Hejcin, CZ To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:22:36 MET +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Caj: RE: Draci oci X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.40 Message-ID: <71C13E7864@mailer.gytool.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > > Neni nekde k mani seznam caju a orientacni zpusob priprvy ? > > Ja vim, ze kazdemu chutna jinak udelany caj, lec kdyz se mi > > do ruky dostane > > nejaky caj a nemam o jeho priprave prehled, tak zbytecne > > urcite mnozstvi zkazim. > > Cviceni je casto nejlepsim resenim. To je pravda, ale ten vitr v penezence za to nestoji > > > V krajnim pripade vsechen. A pritom staci tak malo. > > Malo? Ne. Mnoho. > > > Pokud takovy seznam neni, navrhuji ho vytvorit. Takovy navrh > > se zde jiz myslim > > vyskytl, ale byl zamluven. Coz je skoda. > > Nelze vytvorit. Kazdemu chutna neco jineho. > > Galenius Ja myslim, ze jde o ORIENTACNI pripravu. Protoze opravdu ne kazdy vi PRESNE, co ma s cajem delat. Pokud by se dalo z neceho odpichnout, pak si to uz kazdy prizpusobi./ Prece mi nikdo nechce tvrdit, ze si pripravujeme jeden typ caje TAK ROZDILNE. SASA >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Apr 20 15:54:49 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA19085; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:54:49 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA19082 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:54:48 +0200 Received: from artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz (jazyk@artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz [195.113.31.125]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA21033 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:54:48 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from jazyk@localhost) by artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA16493 for caj@dione.zcu.cz; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:54:48 +0200 Message-ID: <19990420155448.A16102@artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:54:48 +0200 From: Karel Mokry To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: RE: Draci oci References: <71C13E7864@mailer.gytool.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93i In-Reply-To: <71C13E7864@mailer.gytool.cz>; from SEVEROVA@gytool.cz on Tue, Apr 20, 1999 at 03:22:36PM +0100 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > > Neni nekde k mani seznam caju a orientacni zpusob priprvy ? > > > Ja vim, ze kazdemu chutna jinak udelany caj, lec kdyz se mi > > > do ruky dostane nejaky caj a nemam o jeho priprave prehled, tak zbytecne > > > urcite mnozstvi zkazim. > > > > Cviceni je casto nejlepsim resenim. > To je pravda, ale ten vitr v penezence za to nestoji > > > > V krajnim pripade vsechen. A pritom staci tak malo. > > Malo? Ne. Mnoho. > > > > > Pokud takovy seznam neni, navrhuji ho vytvorit. Takovy navrh > > > se zde jiz myslim vyskytl, ale byl zamluven. Coz je skoda. > > > > Nelze vytvorit. Kazdemu chutna neco jineho. > > > > Galenius > > Ja myslim, ze jde o ORIENTACNI pripravu. Protoze opravdu ne kazdy vi > PRESNE, co ma s cajem delat. Pokud by se dalo z neceho odpichnout, > pak si to uz kazdy prizpusobi./ Prece mi nikdo nechce tvrdit, ze si > pripravujeme jeden typ caje TAK ROZDILNE. SASA souhlasim, takhle to bylo opravdu mysleno. !priklad (nerejpat do nej, je to jen analogie): ve skole taky cloveka ucili psat. Uci se jakysi 'prototyp' a ten si kazdy upravil dle sveho. Nakonec ma kazdy jiny rukopis, lec puvodne vsichni psali presne podle pisanky. Myslel jsem udelat takovou cajovou pisanku. neco jako: Draci oci bily caj ,traba nejake povidani, obrazek,... drobnosti k priprave: predvest samansky tanec `kuru-kuri` jinak caj nebude mit tu pravou chut. fajnsmekri pridaji 1/2 vlkanice karpatske vzprimene :) voda: 250 ml 70 oC prvni nalev 80 oC druhy nalev atd mnozstvi: 10 kulicek -- jazyk@artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Karel.Mokry@usa.net >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Apr 21 00:35:42 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA04134; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 00:35:42 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA04131 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 00:35:41 +0200 Received: from vse.vse.cz (vse.vse.cz [146.102.16.2]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA02179 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 00:35:41 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from vse.cz (kxrejj01.vse.cz [146.102.89.11]) by vse.vse.cz (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA18362 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 00:35:40 +0200 (METDST) Message-ID: <371D00F6.6BD9786F@vse.cz> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 00:34:30 +0200 From: Jaroslav Rejcha X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: RE: Draci oci References: <71C13E7864@mailer.gytool.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ja pripravuji Draci oci dle zpusobu Dobre cajovny, tj. ve sklenickach z tenkeho skla, aby bylo dobre videt, jak se "oci" rozvijeji. Pouzivam Dobrou vodu (nebo nejaky jeji klon) o teplote zhruba 85 stupnu a dolivam pak z konvicky, ktera stoji na "ohrivatku". Jo, abych nezapomnel, davam priblizne 8 kulicek. Draci oci jsou chutovka, ale spis pro slavnostni prilezitost (viz cena), takze si je nedelam moc casto. Dokonce jsem si jednou jedno 30g "baleni" setril tak dlouho, ze mi proslo zarucni lhutou. Nezda se mim vsak, ze by jim to ubralo na kvalite. Mimochodem, mam dotaz - Jak to delate s vicenalevovymi caji? Vyndavate caj po dobe potrebne na vyluhovani a pak ho znovu zalevate, nebo ho tam nechavat volne plavat (jako ja)? Verim, ze to muze byt rozdilne u bylich, zelenych, prip.polozelenych caju, ale stejne. Jak to kdo delate? P.S. Jsem na konferenci po delsi dobe (navic se snad poprve ozyvam), takze nevim, jestli jste tohle uz neprobrali. ahoj Jarda >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Apr 21 07:50:36 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA09115; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 07:50:36 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA09112 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 07:50:33 +0200 From: SEVEROVA@gytool.cz Received: from power.ol.cesnet.cz ([194.212.160.147]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA05769 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 07:50:32 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mailer.gytool.cz (gh-2.gytool.cz [194.212.37.22]) by power.ol.cesnet.cz (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id IAA40232 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:49:38 +0200 (DFT) Received: from GH-2/SpoolDir by mailer.gytool.cz (Mercury 1.44); 21 Apr 99 07:50:28 MET +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by GH-2 (Mercury 1.44); 21 Apr 99 07:50:08 MET +0100 Organization: Gymnazium, Olomouci-Hejcin, CZ To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 07:50:05 MET +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Caj: teplota vody X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.40 Message-ID: Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Docela by mne zajimalo, jak urcujete teplotu vody. Ohanite se 80stupnu, 75 stupnu apod. Ja to beru, akorat nevim, jestli se to da odhadnout citem nebo na to potrebujete taky teplomer? Ja si pak doma pripadam divne nebo spis jim pripadam divne. Zatim jsem k caji dostala pouze syna, ale ne nasilim a jeste nerozezna prilis jemne chute. SASA >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Apr 21 08:26:31 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA09689; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:26:31 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA09686 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:26:29 +0200 Received: from mail.oku-je.cz ([195.47.23.218]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA06961 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:26:27 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from read-rfc1918-for-details.iana.net [172.16.50.100] (HELO spravce) by mail.oku-je.cz (AltaVista Mail V2.0/2.0 BL23 listener) id 0000_014d_371d_6d8a_61a2; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:17:46 +0200 Message-ID: <009b01be8bbf$b651ef70$643210ac@spravce> From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Ing._Petr_Kyjovsk=FD?=" To: Subject: Caj: Re: teplota vody Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:25:12 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id IAA09687 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz >Docela by mne zajimalo, jak urcujete teplotu vody. Ohanite se >80stupnu, 75 stupnu apod. Ja to beru, akorat nevim, jestli se to da >odhadnout citem nebo na to potrebujete taky teplomer? Ja si pak doma >pripadam divne nebo spis jim pripadam divne. Zatim jsem k caji >dostala pouze syna, ale ne nasilim a jeste nerozezna prilis jemne >chute. SASA Ahoj Kamaradka co jí patri Jesenicka cajovna to udelala nasledovne. Protoze pouziti teplomeru je neprakticke, vytvorila si casovou tabulku pro dzban z varneho skla a urcite mnozstvi vody. Jakmile voda zacne varit, prelije ji do dzbanu, podle tabulky nastavi na minutnicku cas pro pozadovanou teplotu a az se minutnicek ozve ma vodu priblizne pozadovane teploty Petr >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Apr 21 09:17:32 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA11243; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:17:32 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA11240 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:17:31 +0200 Received: from kanec.linux (kanec.plemdat.czn.cz [194.213.228.200]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA08991 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:17:27 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from milan (milan.plemdat.czn.cz [223.45.6.152]) by kanec.linux (8.8.5/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id JAA00186 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:18:11 +0200 Message-ID: <001201be8bc7$0ab59e20$98062ddf@milan> From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Milan_=C8ervenka?=" To: Subject: Caj: Re: teplota vody Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:17:39 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Vubec si s tim Saso nelamej hlavu. S brachou jsme onehdy provedli serii pokusu na tema chladnuti vody v zavislosti na case. Nejde to presne odhadnout. Musis to mit vychytany u sveho nadobi a asi si to zmerit a stopnout. Cajovy mudrci tvrdi ze 1min=-10°C, ale napr. v rychlovarne konvici s pruzinovym vikem voda na 80°C chladne nejmene 15 minut! Taky zalezi jak hluboko ponoris teplomer atd. Je to asi vec cviku a pokusu. V Kristu Milan ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Koukni se na stranku o caji: http://www.angelfire.com/ga/caj/caj.html nebo o umeni: http://www.mujweb.cz/www/artpoetry/index.htm -AdHOnoreJesus!- -----Původní zpráva----- Od: SEVEROVA@gytool.cz Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz Datum: 21. dubna 1999 7:56 Předmět: Caj: teplota vody Docela by mne zajimalo, jak urcujete teplotu vody. Ohanite se 80stupnu, 75 stupnu apod. Ja to beru, akorat nevim, jestli se to da odhadnout citem nebo na to potrebujete taky teplomer? Ja si pak doma pripadam divne nebo spis jim pripadam divne. Zatim jsem k caji dostala pouze syna, ale ne nasilim a jeste nerozezna prilis jemne chute. SASA >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Apr 22 09:01:56 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA11159; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:01:56 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA11156 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:01:52 +0200 Received: from ns.mas.cz (root@ns.mas.cz [194.212.135.2]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA19987 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:01:46 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from cigi (p0l1h1.boskowan.cz [194.212.135.134]) by ns.mas.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA04067 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:01:36 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <000201be8c8d$f6180800$8687d4c2@cigi.mas.cz> From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?VuFjbGF2IENpa+Fu?=" To: "cajovy kychanek" Subject: Caj: usnul nam spi Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 20:21:55 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz ahoj cajovy kychanku, myslel jsem si, ze pomalu usinas, ale po me zpravicce jsem zjistil, ze se u mne neobjevila, takze ani nevim jestli i tato zpravicka nejde do prazdna. takze spis, nebo jsi nemocen, anebo mrtev p.s. naposledy jsem dostal nelakou zpravu 16. 4. 1999 Vaclav Cikan Cajovy List - http://www.cajovna.cz Tea-Mail - cigi@cajovna.cz & caj@post.cz (pro domeny vol.cz) >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Apr 22 09:09:21 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA11185; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:09:21 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA11182 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:09:20 +0200 Received: from eryx1.zcu.cz (eryx1.zcu.cz [147.228.52.12]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA20219 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:09:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from nymph4 (ul407p13-kiv.fav.zcu.cz [147.228.63.162]) by eryx1.zcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA10243 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:09:19 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <000801be8c8e$ff914df0$a23fe493@nymph4.fav.zcu.cz> From: "Demeter Jurista" To: Subject: Caj: Re: usnul nam spi Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:09:01 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ahoj Cigi Cajovy dychanek neusnul jen tak trochu odpociva, on ten prechod na leto je nejaky pomaly a vubec se lidem nechce nic delat, alespon ja jsem to vcera pozoroval naprosto vsude... Logicky s toho pak vyplyva, ze kdyz se mi nechce nic delat, pak tedy ani psat mail. Tedy nezoufat a vyckat... Mita DJ >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Apr 22 09:20:21 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA11295; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:20:21 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA11292 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:20:19 +0200 Received: from server.ica.cz ([195.47.13.11]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA20843 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:20:18 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from brn.pvt.cz (com.ica.cz [195.47.13.10]) by server.ica.cz (8.9.2/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA20527 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:19:48 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <371ECD7E.DAC94DF@brn.pvt.cz> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:19:26 +0200 From: Petr Buchmaier X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: cs MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Cajodarne putovani pokracuje References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id JAA11293 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Dobry den chtel bych vazene pratele caje informovat o pokracovani cajodarneho putovani, tentokrat najdete hodnoceni cajoven, rozhovor a cajove zamysleni + informaci o strankach pro cajovny zdarma. adresa http://www.caje.cz Petr Buchmaier P.S. vcera jsem byl v DC v Brne a meli tam pohlednici s adresou WWW.CAJOVNY.COM, tak jsem si rikal vida, DC konecne na internetu ?? Dnes jsem se dival do ripe a nic, cajovny cz jsou registrovany na Altair a moc tam nenajdete. Pockame si a uvidime :-)) ------------------------------------- Popis serveru: U šálku čaje - www.caje.cz nabízí recenze knih, čajoven a aktuality z čajové oblasti a mnoho dalších informaci pro přátele čaje. Motto: Chceme se stát kvalitním zpravodajstvím o čaji podobně jako "Mobil server", zajímavým čtením jako "Neviditelný pes" a místem dobré pohody jako jsou "Dobré čajovny". I přes všechna tato přirovnání se budeme snažit, aby jste mohli za několik let říct, bylo to příjemné jako návštěva na serveru "Šálek čaje". >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Apr 23 22:53:27 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA19110; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 22:53:27 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA19107 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 22:53:24 +0200 Received: from firma.seznam.cz (hidden-user@firma.seznam.cz [195.119.180.20]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA24496 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 22:53:24 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (qmail 21247 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 17:32:29 -0000 Received: from nymd007.pvt.net (HELO lizard) (194.149.97.199) by firma.internal.seznam.cz with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 17:32:29 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.6.16.19990423193202.45877d42@pop3.seznam.cz> X-Sender: petrnon@pop3.seznam.cz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (16) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 19:32:02 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz From: PetrNovak Subject: Re: Caj: teplota vody In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz At 07:50 21.4.1999 +0100, you wrote: >Docela by mne zajimalo, jak urcujete teplotu vody. Ohanite se >80stupnu, 75 stupnu apod. Ja to beru, akorat nevim, jestli se to da >odhadnout citem nebo na to potrebujete taky teplomer? Ja si pak doma >pripadam divne nebo spis jim pripadam divne. Zatim jsem k caji >dostala pouze syna, ale ne nasilim a jeste nerozezna prilis jemne >chute. SASA > > Zdravim, ja jsem urcitymi pokusy zjistil, ze proudici voda, ktera ma teplotu blizko 70 C, se da jeste pri dotyku s kuzi na rukou vydrzet. S pozdravem Petr Novak >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Apr 26 08:28:33 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA03078; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:28:33 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA03075 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:28:32 +0200 From: SEVEROVA@gytool.cz Received: from power.ol.cesnet.cz ([194.212.160.147]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA16671 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:28:28 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mailer.gytool.cz (gh-2.gytool.cz [194.212.37.22]) by power.ol.cesnet.cz (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id IAA21336 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:28:35 +0200 (DFT) Received: from GH-2/SpoolDir by mailer.gytool.cz (Mercury 1.44); 26 Apr 99 08:28:28 MET +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by GH-2 (Mercury 1.44); 26 Apr 99 08:28:17 MET +0100 Organization: Gymnazium, Olomouci-Hejcin, CZ To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:23:49 MET +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Caj: teplota vody X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.40 Message-ID: Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > At 07:50 21.4.1999 +0100, you wrote: > >Docela by mne zajimalo, jak urcujete teplotu vody. Ohanite se > >80stupnu, 75 stupnu apod. Ja to beru, akorat nevim, jestli se to da > >odhadnout citem nebo na to potrebujete taky teplomer? Ja si pak doma > >pripadam divne nebo spis jim pripadam divne. Zatim jsem k caji > >dostala pouze syna, ale ne nasilim a jeste nerozezna prilis jemne > >chute. SASA > > > > > > Zdravim, > > ja jsem urcitymi pokusy zjistil, ze proudici voda, ktera ma teplotu > blizko 70 C, se da jeste pri dotyku s kuzi na rukou vydrzet. > > > S pozdravem > Petr Novak Ovsem v pripade ze se netrefim, tak uz ten caj tak brzy nevypiju, ze? Ne vazne, jak to poznam, ze mi nehrozi spalenina? SASA >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Apr 26 09:15:27 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA03202; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:15:27 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA03199 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:15:26 +0200 Received: from kiv.zcu.cz (ur404p01-rek.rek.zcu.cz [147.228.71.108]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA19058 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:15:26 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3724128E.54F1CF40@kiv.zcu.cz> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:15:26 +0200 From: Pavel Baxa Organization: ZCU Plzen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: cs,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: teplota vody References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz SEVEROVA@gytool.cz wrote: > Ovsem v pripade ze se netrefim, tak uz ten caj tak brzy nevypiju, ze? > Ne vazne, jak to poznam, ze mi nehrozi spalenina? SASA No - je tu jeste jedna cesta, kterou jsme v Dychanku velice brzy opustili jako spatnou. Neustale se nechava voda dojit az k varu a pak chladne. To uz se teplota odhaduje spatne. Kdyz ale vezmeme studenou vodu a dame ji hrat, pak (podle mych experimentu) okolo 70'C zacnou vznikat na stenach nadoby malinkate bublinky. Pri zhruba 80'C pokryvaji bublinky -ted uz vetsi- cele steny nadoby a voda "huci". Pri 90'C se voda chveje a bublinky se sem tam uvolni. Pak voda "ztichne" a to je 100'C. Vzapeti se zacne varit. Pavel Baxa chemik - amater specializace traskaviny a jedy na krysy >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Apr 26 10:07:49 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA03343; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:07:49 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA03340 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:07:49 +0200 Received: from ns-pils.pilsner-urquell.cz (ns-pils.pilsner-urquell.cz [193.85.100.5]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA21300 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:07:48 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns-pils.pilsner-urquell.cz (8.9.0/8.8.5) with UUCP id KAA00335 for caj@dione.zcu.cz; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:47:14 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from plzen11.pilsner-urquell.cz (plzen11.pilsner-urquell.cz [172.20.1.11]) by ns1.pilsner-urquell.cz (8.9.0/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA17238 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:24:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: by plzen11.pilsner-urquell.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:55:33 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Fousek Martin Ing." To: "'caj@dione.zcu.cz'" Subject: RE: Caj: teplota vody Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:55:25 +0200 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Znamena to snad, ze se caj muze zalevat take neprevarenou vodou? Do ted jsem zil v presvedceni, ze pro pripravu caje je nutne vodu prevarit, aby se z ni dostal vsechen vzduch - narozdil od kavy, kdy je lepsi vodu pouzit jeste pred bodem varu, aby nevyprchany vzduch vytvoril peknou penu - u caje si myslim, ze je pena spis na zavadu, nebo ne? Martin > No - je tu jeste jedna cesta, kterou jsme v Dychanku velice brzy > opustili jako spatnou. Neustale se nechava voda dojit az k varu > a pak chladne. To uz se teplota odhaduje spatne. > Kdyz ale vezmeme studenou vodu a dame ji hrat, pak (podle mych > experimentu) okolo 70'C zacnou vznikat na stenach nadoby malinkate > bublinky. Pri zhruba 80'C pokryvaji bublinky -ted uz vetsi- cele > steny nadoby a voda "huci". Pri 90'C se voda chveje a bublinky > se sem tam uvolni. Pak voda "ztichne" a to je 100'C. Vzapeti se > zacne varit. > > Pavel Baxa > chemik - amater > specializace traskaviny a jedy na krysy > >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Apr 26 10:30:51 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA03515; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:30:51 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA03512 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:30:49 +0200 From: jaslo@gratex.sk Received: from relay.gtinet.sk (IDENT:root@relay.gtinet.sk [195.98.128.10]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA22881 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:30:42 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sentinel.gratex.sk (mail.gratex.sk [195.98.128.40]) by relay.gtinet.sk with ESMTP id KAA11257 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:30:36 +0200 Received: by SENTINEL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:30:36 +0200 Message-ID: To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: FW: Caj: teplota vody Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:30:34 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="WINDOWS-1250" Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Pani, ani mne to nejde do hlavy, ved bublanie vody v kotliku je nedielnou sucastou japonskeho cajoveho obradu a pokial viem, aj kotliky su tak akusticky vyriesene, aby to bublanie pekne znelo. -----Original Message----- From: Fousek Martin Ing. [mailto:martin.fousek@Pilsner-Urquell.cz] Sent: Monday, April 26, 1999 9:55 AM To: 'caj@dione.zcu.cz' Subject: RE: Caj: teplota vody Znamena to snad, ze se caj muze zalevat take neprevarenou vodou? Do ted jsem zil v presvedceni, ze pro pripravu caje je nutne vodu prevarit, aby se z ni dostal vsechen vzduch - narozdil od kavy, kdy je lepsi vodu pouzit jeste pred bodem varu, aby nevyprchany vzduch vytvoril peknou penu - u caje si myslim, ze je pena spis na zavadu, nebo ne? Martin > No - je tu jeste jedna cesta, kterou jsme v Dychanku velice brzy > opustili jako spatnou. Neustale se nechava voda dojit az k varu > a pak chladne. To uz se teplota odhaduje spatne. > Kdyz ale vezmeme studenou vodu a dame ji hrat, pak (podle mych > experimentu) okolo 70'C zacnou vznikat na stenach nadoby malinkate > bublinky. Pri zhruba 80'C pokryvaji bublinky -ted uz vetsi- cele > steny nadoby a voda "huci". Pri 90'C se voda chveje a bublinky > se sem tam uvolni. Pak voda "ztichne" a to je 100'C. Vzapeti se > zacne varit. > > Pavel Baxa > chemik - amater > specializace traskaviny a jedy na krysy > >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Apr 26 13:52:58 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA04407; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 13:52:58 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA04404 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 13:52:58 +0200 Received: from juno.fek.zcu.cz (juno.fek.zcu.cz [147.228.190.20]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA01222 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 13:52:56 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from noe.fek.zcu.cz (noe.fek.zcu.cz [147.228.190.5]) by juno.fek.zcu.cz with ESMTP id NAA05256 (8.8.8/IDA-1.7 for ); Mon, 26 Apr 1999 13:52:58 +0200 Received: from NOE/SpoolDir by noe.fek.zcu.cz (Mercury 1.43); 26 Apr 99 13:44:59 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by NOE (Mercury 1.43); 26 Apr 99 13:44:43 +0100 From: "Michal Dlouhy" Organization: Faculty of Economics, Cheb To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 13:44:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Caj: Re: teplota vody X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.40 Message-ID: <152C0540C5B@noe.fek.zcu.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > >Docela by mne zajimalo, jak urcujete teplotu vody. Ohanite se > >80stupnu, 75 stupnu apod. Ja to beru, akorat nevim, jestli se to da > >odhadnout citem nebo na to potrebujete taky teplomer? Ja si pak doma > >pripadam divne nebo spis jim pripadam divne. Zatim jsem k caji > >dostala pouze syna, ale ne nasilim a jeste nerozezna prilis jemne > >chute. SASA > ono se to vzdycky nejak vyhrbi MIchal DDLouhy redkvickovy magnat >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Apr 26 14:29:38 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA04514; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:29:38 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA04511 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:29:38 +0200 Received: from ara.zf.jcu.cz (root@ara.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA02876 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:29:37 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from zf.jcu.cz (hydra.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.8]) by ara.zf.jcu.cz (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA17709 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:29:36 +0200 Message-ID: <37245C46.30A346A0@zf.jcu.cz> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:29:58 +0200 From: Michal Rada X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Seminarka Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Vazeni cajomilove, ve skole jsem dostal za ukol vypracovat seminarku. Tema jest v podstate jedno, protoze chytry horak si ho nakonec stejne prevede na vec jemu milou, v mem pripade caje. Potrebuji ale nezbytne informace, ktere nejsnadneji, nejzaruceneji a nejfundovaneji obdrzim od ucastniku konference prave na toto tema, proto vas prosim o pomoc. Najdete-li trosku casu mezi jednotlivymi dousky lahodneho moku, pokuste se mi, prosim, odpovedet na nasledujici otazky: 1. Jaka je frekvence vasich navstev do cajoven? 2. Kolik v cajovne prumerne utratite - a: za caj b: za ostatni? 3. Kde kupujete nejcasteji caj? 4. Kolik za caj (surovinu) vydate penez za rok? 5. Jaka zeme puvodu to u vas, co se tyka caju, vyhrala? 6. Pijete radeji caje cerne, zelene, oolongy, smesy(?),.....? 7. Vas nejoblibenejsi caj? 8. Jak casto konzumujete caj? 9. Kolik utratite za nezbytne(?) proprietky nutne k priprave caje za rok? 10. V jakem mnozstvi konzumujete caj (odhad kolik denne spotrebujete caje na jeho pripravu)? Rozhodnete-li se mi odepsat, ucinte tak radeji ma muj vlastni mail (radami01@zf.jcu.cz) a ne do konference, abychom v ni nezpusobili zacpu. Je mi jasne, ze na nektere odpovedi se vam nebude chtit odpovedet jednim urcitym udajem, ani pro me to nebude jednoduche, ale berte to, pro srandu, treba tak, ze na tom zavisi vas zivot, at jste nalezite motivovani. A nakonec snad pouze ujisteni, ze veskere shromazdene udaje peclive zpracuji, pridam k nim neco navic a vysledny gulas budu nalezite prezentovat i vam, moji mili! No a uplne na zaver snad jen vlezdoprdelkovske: Dekuji predem!! Radar >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Apr 26 21:23:13 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA06569; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:23:13 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA06566 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:23:11 +0200 Received: from firma.seznam.cz (hidden-user@firma.seznam.cz [195.119.180.20]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA16942 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:23:10 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (qmail 3541 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 19:22:48 -0000 Received: from nymd014.pvt.net (HELO lizard) (194.149.97.206) by firma.internal.seznam.cz with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 19:22:48 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.6.16.19990426212243.2947a4a2@pop3.seznam.cz> X-Sender: petrnon@pop3.seznam.cz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (16) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:22:43 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz From: PetrNovak Subject: Re: Caj: teplota vody In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz At 08:23 26.4.1999 +0100, you wrote: >> At 07:50 21.4.1999 +0100, you wrote: >> >Docela by mne zajimalo, jak urcujete teplotu vody. Ohanite se >> >.....chute. SASA >> >> Zdravim, >> >> ja jsem urcitymi pokusy zjistil, ze proudici voda, ktera ma teplotu >> blizko 70 C, se da jeste pri dotyku s kuzi na rukou vydrzet. > S pozdravem >> Petr > >Ovsem v pripade ze se netrefim, tak uz ten caj tak brzy nevypiju, ze? >Ne vazne, jak to poznam, ze mi nehrozi spalenina? SASA > > Dobry den (vecer, ci rano), Mel jsem doboru vuli podilet se na odhaleni tajemstvi teploty chladnouci vody, ale nevyslo mi to, jak vidim. Nakonec je to tak proste, ze; staci investovat do teplomeru na zavarovani ci nejakeho podobneho. Ja sam, priznam se, to tak prisne s teplotou neberu a s klidnym svedomim pripravuji caj z vody, ktera ma podle mne potrebnou teplotu a o niz jsem ze zkusenosti presvedcen, ze je spravna. S pozdravem Petr Novak >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Apr 27 09:56:25 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA08099; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:56:25 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA08096 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:56:24 +0200 From: SEVEROVA@gytool.cz Received: from power.ol.cesnet.cz ([194.212.160.147]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA27676 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:56:24 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mailer.gytool.cz (gh-2.gytool.cz [194.212.37.22]) by power.ol.cesnet.cz (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id JAA21418 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:56:29 +0200 (DFT) Received: from GH-2/SpoolDir by mailer.gytool.cz (Mercury 1.44); 27 Apr 99 09:56:22 MET +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by GH-2 (Mercury 1.44); 27 Apr 99 09:56:17 MET +0100 Organization: Gymnazium, Olomouci-Hejcin, CZ To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:56:08 MET +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Caj: teplota vody X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.40 Message-ID: <281C10433E@mailer.gytool.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Dobry den (vecer, ci rano), > > Mel jsem doboru vuli podilet se na odhaleni tajemstvi teploty > chladnouci vody, ale nevyslo mi to, jak vidim. Nakonec je to tak proste, > ze; staci investovat do teplomeru na zavarovani ci nejakeho podobneho. Ja > sam, priznam se, to tak prisne s teplotou neberu a s klidnym svedomim > pripravuji caj z vody, ktera ma podle mne potrebnou teplotu a o niz jsem ze > zkusenosti presvedcen, ze je spravna. > > > > S pozdravem > Petr Novak Tak to jsem si oddechla, protoze jsem nabyla dojmu, ze jen ja nemerim presne teplotu vodu. To jsem rada, vazne!!! Pokud jsem doma behala s teplomerem, meli mne za cvoka, potaji to vzdy neslo, tak jsem se taky naucila odhadovat. A chutna mi. Nekteri psali totiz, ze nejlepsi je 80 stupnu, jini 85 stupnu a tak podobne. SASA >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Apr 27 10:03:33 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA08147; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:03:33 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA08144 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:03:32 +0200 From: LToman@zivpo.cz Received: from zp999a.zivpo.cz (ms.zivpo.cz [195.146.106.228]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA27744 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:03:31 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by ms.zivpo.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:03:31 +0200 Message-ID: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A390172D8B7@PUEX1C1> To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: RE: Caj: teplota vody Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:03:23 +0200 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > Mel jsem doboru vuli podilet se na odhaleni tajemstvi teploty > > chladnouci vody, ale nevyslo mi to, jak vidim. Nakonec je > to tak proste, > > ze; staci investovat do teplomeru na zavarovani ci nejakeho > podobneho. Ja > > sam, priznam se, to tak prisne s teplotou neberu a s > klidnym svedomim > > pripravuji caj z vody, ktera ma podle mne potrebnou teplotu > a o niz jsem ze > > zkusenosti presvedcen, ze je spravna. > > Tak to jsem si oddechla, protoze jsem nabyla dojmu, ze jen ja nemerim > presne teplotu vodu. To jsem rada, vazne!!! Pokud jsem doma behala s > teplomerem, meli mne za cvoka, potaji to vzdy neslo, tak jsem se taky > naucila odhadovat. A chutna mi. Nekteri psali totiz, ze nejlepsi je > 80 stupnu, jini 85 stupnu a tak podobne. SASA Taky to delam timto zpusobem. U me je voda na spravne teplote v okamziku, kdy si na ni vzpomenu. +- 5 °C se uz snese... Galenius >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Apr 27 13:15:42 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA08938; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:15:42 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA08935 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:15:41 +0200 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA05104 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:15:40 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11445 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:15:45 +0200 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 27 Apr 99 13:15:41 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 27 Apr 99 13:15:32 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:15:24 +100 Subject: Caj: Koncim :-((( X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <1BE00D4861@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Vazeni cajesmilci a labuznici, je mi smutnou zalezitosti se s vami vsemi rozloucit, lec ma prace civilniho sluzebnika na VS konci. Preji vam vsem samozrejme dobry caj, dobrou vodu, cista sitka, krasne nadobicko, spoustu klidu na vychutnavani cajovych listku apod apod apod...tady uz si to doplnte sami, rad vam to budu prat. Zaroven dekuji tvurcum konference, necht oslavi v poklidu i dalsi konferencni narozeniny, treba se prihlasim zase nekdy z jine adresy. Odhlasuji se presne v patek, takze jeste tento tyden jsem komunikativni. Zdravim Pavel Hlavacek mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Apr 27 20:45:38 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA10625; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 20:45:38 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA10622 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 20:45:37 +0200 Received: from diana.nemcb.cz (IDENT:root@diana.nemcb.cz [62.168.20.65]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA22980 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 20:45:28 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from onkola.nemcb.cz ([194.212.158.248]) by diana.nemcb.cz (8.9.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id TAA15016 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 19:45:03 +0200 Message-ID: <005d01be90dd$cdd1bf40$f89ed4c2@onkola.nemcb.cz> From: "=?iso-8859-2?B?S3JvdWztayBUb23huSBNVURyLg==?=" To: Subject: Caj: =?iso-8859-2?B?yGFqOiBQ+O1wcmF2YQ==?= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 20:42:58 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Dobrý den, ráno či noc všem Milcům čaje Dovolte mi zapojit se do této čajové konference. Rád bych poprosil nějakou dobrou duši, která by mi zdělila postup při přípravě těchto čajů: TIE GUYAN JIN (železná bohyně milosrdenství), SHUI XIAN(vodní víla), PU-ERH, SHOU MEI(obočí dlouhého věku), YUNNAN LU, DARJEELING, PAI MU TAN(bílá pivoňka) Myslím tím dávkování, teplotu vody, délku louhování apod. Řídím se pouze všeobecnými údaji o přípravě čaje (zeleného, černého apod.) a i přes různé eperimenty mám pocit, že nedosahuji možného maxima. Prosím pomožte. Usnadníte mi život. Díky ZED P.S. Zjistil jsem, že se u mé adresi vyskytuje tit. MUDr. jde o omyl, který snad v dohledné době odstraním kroulik@nemcb.cz >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Apr 28 09:50:17 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA11997; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:50:17 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA11994 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:50:16 +0200 Received: from eryx1.zcu.cz (eryx1.zcu.cz [147.228.52.12]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA02265; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:50:16 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (jurista@localhost) by eryx1.zcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA01164; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:50:16 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: eryx1.zcu.cz: jurista owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:50:15 +0200 (MET DST) From: Demeter Jurista X-Sender: jurista@eryx1.zcu.cz To: Pavel Hlavacek cc: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Koncim :-((( In-Reply-To: <1BE00D4861@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Odhlasuji se presne v patek, takze jeste tento tyden jsem komunikativni. > Zdravim > Pavel Hlavacek Blahopreji k ukonceni sluzby statu, i kdyz civilni, je to sice trochu zkalene ztratou kamarada v konferenci, ale verim, ze se opet prihlasis, i kdyz z jine adresy Mita DJ >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Apr 28 12:32:32 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA12594; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:32:32 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA12591 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:32:32 +0200 Received: from server.ica.cz ([195.47.13.11]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA12278 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:32:30 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from brn.pvt.cz (com.ica.cz [195.47.13.10]) by server.ica.cz (8.9.2/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA27882 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:31:54 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3726E306.CA9B345A@brn.pvt.cz> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:29:26 +0200 From: Petr Buchmaier X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: cs MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Cajovy kruh References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Dobry den dovoluji si vam oznamit vznik Ceskeho cajoveho kruhu. Jedna se o zdruzeni stranek s cajovou tematikou, ktere vzajemne odkazuji na cleny kruhu. vice informaci viz http://www.caje.cz/ostatni/infokruh.htm U salku caje se objevuje treti pokracovani Cajodarneho putovani, tentokrat i rozhovor se dvema majiteli DC. Tot zatim vse Petr Buchmaier P.S. stale hledam nekolik dopisovatelu schopnych napsat clanky o caji, navstivenych cajovnach, kurzu cajovych firem ... >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Apr 28 15:55:51 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA13352; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:55:51 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA13349 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:55:50 +0200 Received: from opf.slu.cz (ns.opf.slu.cz [193.84.208.3]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA23303 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:55:48 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from x.opf.slu.cz (zajac@x.opf.slu.cz [193.84.208.4]) by opf.slu.cz (8.9.1/OPF) with ESMTP id PAA19231 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:55:16 +0200 Received: from localhost (zajac@localhost) by x.opf.slu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA15769 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:55:15 +0200 Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:55:15 +0200 (CEST) From: David Mzyk To: konference o caji Subject: Caj: request Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Zdravim, rad bych se dozvedel neco spise o zpusobech podavani caje Poradi mi nekdo nake url, nebo rovnou neco napise? predem thx -------------------------------------------- | Tak to byl Zajac | | | | alias David Mzyk , & ... etc. | | | | ICQ #11703805 - inactif | | http://www.opf.slu.cz/~zajac | |--------------------------------------------| | p.s.: sorri za ten cestin oder anglictinka | -------------------------------------------- >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Apr 28 22:57:32 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA14455; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:57:32 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA14452 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:57:30 +0200 Received: from conan.asysijd.cz (mail@server.asysijd.cz [195.75.66.161]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA02150 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:57:29 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from kol-dial8.asysijd.cz (asysijd.cz) [195.75.66.18] by conan.asysijd.cz with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 10cbOZ-000472-00; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:57:28 +0200 Message-ID: <372775BE.8C85204A@asysijd.cz> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:55:26 +0200 From: Jan Bourek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: - Cajovy Dychanek - Subject: Caj: TESCO - OXALIS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Bore Da, V Pardubicich v obchodnim dome Tesco je v prizemi maly koutek venovany cajum. Prodavany jsou zde caje dodane firmou Oxalis, caje jsou ulozene ve velkych nadobach a zaspuntovane. Slecna vam navazi kolik chcete a tak. Je tam ale hodne caju ovocnych a takovych tech smesi. Neodolal jsem a zakoupil jsem 20 g Pai Mu Tanu. Zrovna ho piji a reknu vam: nic moc. Prvni kalisek byl dobry, prvni nalev sel, ale druhy nalev to jaksi asi nesnese. Pripravuji to uplne normalne svou metodou, ale nic moc. Tak nevim, od Oxalisu jsem si onehdy koupil Formosu a kdyz jsem pak pil Formosu z cajovny, bylo to uplne jine. Rysy stejne, ale detaily a jemne tahy absolutne u Oxalisu chybeji, tak nejak bych to charakterizoval. Co vy? *JB* >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Apr 28 23:46:02 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA14561; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 23:46:02 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA14558 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 23:46:01 +0200 Received: from conan.asysijd.cz (mail@server.asysijd.cz [195.75.66.161]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA03285 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 23:46:00 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from kol-dial8.asysijd.cz (asysijd.cz) [195.75.66.18] by conan.asysijd.cz with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 10cc9U-0004Dx-00; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 23:45:58 +0200 Message-ID: <3727810A.92A1338B@asysijd.cz> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 23:43:39 +0200 From: Jan Bourek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: - Cajovy Dychanek - Subject: Caj: Kakuzó Okakura - Kniha o caji Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Bore da, nedavno jsem si koupil v orientu knihu od Kakuzo Okakury nazvanou Kniha o caji. Pojednava o japonskych dejinach, vyvoji cajoveho obradu, taoismu a zenu, estetice, kvetinach, cajovych mistrech, cajovych domcich a o vztahu asijcu vuci evropanum historicky i vztazeno na caj. Velmi zajimave cteni, doporucuji vsem, kdo se alespon trochu zajim,a o japonskou kulturu. *JB* >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Apr 29 10:19:22 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA15677; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:19:22 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA15674 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:19:20 +0200 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA13297 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:19:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15368 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:19:23 +0200 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 29 Apr 99 10:19:19 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 29 Apr 99 10:19:16 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:19:15 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: TESCO - OXALIS X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <48F15C62A6@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > V Pardubicich v obchodnim dome Tesco je v prizemi maly koutek venovany > cajum. Prodavany jsou zde caje dodane firmou Oxalis, caje jsou ulozene > ve velkych nadobach a zaspuntovane. Slecna vam navazi kolik chcete a > tak. Je tam ale hodne caju ovocnych a takovych tech smesi. Neodolal jsem > a zakoupil jsem 20 g Pai Mu Tanu. Zrovna ho piji a reknu vam: nic moc. > Prvni kalisek byl dobry, prvni nalev sel, ale druhy nalev to jaksi asi > nesnese. Pripravuji to uplne normalne svou metodou, ale nic moc. Tak > nevim, od Oxalisu jsem si onehdy koupil Formosu a kdyz jsem pak pil > Formosu z cajovny, bylo to uplne jine. Rysy stejne, ale detaily a jemne > tahy absolutne u Oxalisu chybeji, tak nejak bych to charakterizoval. Co > vy? Sve zkusenosti s Oxalis uz jsem popisoval, taky je nemam nijak ruzove. Ale nerad bych je zatracoval, maji svuj vyznam, coz je znat podle mnozstvi zakazniku. Koneckoncu pro seznameni s cajem je to bohaty vyber az az. Tot tedy opravdu muj posledni prispevek (aspon z teto adresy a na novou asi dlouhu nebude), zijte blaze, dobrou chut a treba nekdy u ccha. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Apr 29 11:51:08 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA16131; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:51:08 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA16128 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:51:07 +0200 Received: from ara.zf.jcu.cz (root@ara.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA17891 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:51:06 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from zf.jcu.cz (vs3-10.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.100]) by ara.zf.jcu.cz (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA20685 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:51:06 +0200 Message-ID: <37282CAD.E55456E5@zf.jcu.cz> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:55:57 +0200 From: Michal Rada X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Slunce v bavlnce Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Caji zdar, zelenemu zvlast! Chtel jsem se jenom ozvat, abych podekoval za odpovedi na moji zadost a zaroven vas ujistil, ze cas straveny odpovidanim na me otazky nebyl zbytecne vynalozeny, a ze udaje mne poskytnute svedomite zpracuji i nalezite budu prezentovat (zatim nejsem rozhodnut jak, ono je to stejne predcasna uvaha, kdyz jsem jeste nenapsal ani radek), tak slibuji!!!!! Preji hezky den Radar PS: omluvte ten Subject, ale co vy byste do nej napsali pri takovemto sdeleni? >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Apr 29 12:22:56 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA16248; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:22:56 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA16245 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:22:56 +0200 Received: from kiv.zcu.cz (ur404p01-rek.rek.zcu.cz [147.228.71.108]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA19241; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:22:55 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <37283300.942D05E4@kiv.zcu.cz> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:22:56 +0200 From: Pavel Baxa Organization: ZCU Plzen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: cs,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: TESCO - OXALIS References: <372775BE.8C85204A@asysijd.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Jan Bourek wrote: > > Bore Da, > V Pardubicich v obchodnim dome Tesco je v prizemi maly koutek venovany > cajum. Prodavany jsou zde caje dodane firmou Oxalis, caje jsou ulozene > ve velkych nadobach a zaspuntovane. Slecna vam navazi kolik chcete a > tak. Je tam ale hodne caju ovocnych a takovych tech smesi. Neodolal jsem > a zakoupil jsem 20 g Pai Mu Tanu. Zrovna ho piji a reknu vam: nic moc. > Prvni kalisek byl dobry, prvni nalev sel, ale druhy nalev to jaksi asi > nesnese. Pripravuji to uplne normalne svou metodou, ale nic moc. Tak > nevim, od Oxalisu jsem si onehdy koupil Formosu a kdyz jsem pak pil > Formosu z cajovny, bylo to uplne jine. Rysy stejne, ale detaily a jemne > tahy absolutne u Oxalisu chybeji, tak nejak bych to charakterizoval. Co > vy? Nazdarek! To je pro Oxalis asi typicke. Tady v Plzni maji svuj obchudek v ExtraMegaSuperGigaSpecialNaturalMultiHyperMarketStoru Carrefour a je to podobne. Spousta velkych sklenic (nezaspuntovanych, jen poklopenych sklenenym poklopem), u toho slecna, ktera je tam na to, aby navazila pozadovane mnozstvi, ale nechtejte po ni, proboha, aby vam poradila nebo doporucila, protoze ONA tedy caj ROZHODNE nepije,fuj. Prevaznou vetsinu nabidky predstavuji ovocne a ovonene caje (asi 80%), zbytek jsou caje prumerne kvality (pro "pytlikare" nad-prumerne, pro cajomila pod-todleto). Radim nam - nakupujme u odbornika a Oxalis nechme masam. Pavel >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Apr 29 15:29:33 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA16943; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:29:33 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA16940 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:29:33 +0200 Received: from ms.ipnet.cz (ms.ipnet.cz [212.20.64.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA29829 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:29:32 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pent-200 ([212.20.68.53]) by ms.ipnet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA27741 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:29:19 +0200 Message-ID: <004301be9242$474edc80$354414d4@pent-200> From: "BENT" To: Subject: Re: Caj: TESCO - OXALIS Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:13:27 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz >zbytek jsou caje prumerne kvality (pro "pytlikare" nad-prumerne, >pro cajomila pod-todleto). Radim nam - nakupujme u odbornika >a Oxalis nechme masam. > > Pavel Doporucuji Vasi pozornosti caj "Golden Nepal", prave z produkce Oxalisu. Pri srovnani s "nepalovitymi" caji jinych cajovych prodejcu vychazi (alespon pro moje poharky) vyborne. Jde o cerveny caj plnejsi chuti a mamive aromaticke vune. Pripravuji si ho po vecerech, kdyz mam hlad na caj. Doba louhovani klasicky 3min, pro opravdu plnejsi chut lze protahnou i na 5min bez vyrazneho zhorknuti. Ke zbytku produkce a predevsim k druhu prodeje Oxalisu nemam co dodat - souhlasim s vyse uvedenym. Michael >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Apr 29 16:00:56 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA17093; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:00:56 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA17090 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:00:55 +0200 Received: from ns.stapro.cz (IDENT:qmailr@ns.stapro.cz [195.146.104.89]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA30903 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:00:54 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199904291400.QAA30903@ori.zcu.cz> Received: (qmail 16971 invoked by uid 0); 29 Apr 1999 13:59:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Kropacek.stapro.cz) (192.168.10.139) by ns.stapro.cz with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 13:59:48 -0000 From: "Milan Kropacek" Organization: Stapro s.r.o. To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:00:08 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Caj: TESCO - OXALIS In-reply-to: <004301be9242$474edc80$354414d4@pent-200> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Doporucuji Vasi pozornosti caj "Golden Nepal", prave > z produkce Oxalisu. Pri srovnani s "nepalovitymi" caji Presne tak, ja u Oxalisu kupuji taky jenom Nepal. Jeste jsem mel od nich tusim Chun Mee, ktery byl taky obstojny. Jinak jsem mel od nich GunPowder, ktery byl plny rapiku a ruzneho bordelu. -- Milan Kropacek Stapro s.r.o. >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Apr 29 20:09:25 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA18100; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 20:09:25 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA18097 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 20:09:24 +0200 Received: from juno.fek.zcu.cz (juno.fek.zcu.cz [147.228.190.20]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA04743 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 20:09:23 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from noe.fek.zcu.cz (noe.fek.zcu.cz [147.228.190.5]) by juno.fek.zcu.cz with ESMTP id UAA28163 (8.8.8/IDA-1.7 for ); Thu, 29 Apr 1999 20:09:23 +0200 Received: from NOE/SpoolDir by noe.fek.zcu.cz (Mercury 1.43); 29 Apr 99 20:01:20 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by NOE (Mercury 1.43); 29 Apr 99 20:01:19 +0100 From: "Michal Dlouhy" Organization: Faculty of Economics, Cheb To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 20:01:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Caj: long jing X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.40 Message-ID: <1A10D757B2C@noe.fek.zcu.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz CAu abych taky necim prispel do foroty.. zkousel jsem long jinga (lung tinga) z Cigi cajovny a z prazsky prodejny Caju a bylin, tusim ze ta sidli v nejaky Buzulcky ulici??, a pekne jsem se podivil, jak to ten buzulcky tomu z Cigi cajovny natrel. Jak barvou, vuni a chuti, tak i... chuti. To je vsechno m. uhlobaron >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Apr 30 15:50:02 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA20649; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 15:50:02 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA20643 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 15:50:00 +0200 Received: from kanec.linux (kanec.plemdat.czn.cz [194.213.228.200]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA00559 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 15:49:57 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from milan (milan.plemdat.czn.cz [223.45.6.152]) by kanec.linux (8.8.5/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id PAA21408 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 15:50:34 +0200 Message-ID: <001e01be9310$5e1978c0$98062ddf@milan> From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Milan_=C8ervenka?=" To: Subject: Caj: hezkej vikend Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 15:50:10 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Tak za pul hodinky razim smer Brdy. Pribalil sem si s sebou Shui hsien a Tuarega, tak si to chci v lesich uzit. Caj Milan V Kristu Milan ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Koukni se na stranku o caji: http://www.angelfire.com/ga/caj/caj.html nebo o umeni: http://www.mujweb.cz/www/artpoetry/index.htm -AdHOnoreJesus!- -----Původní zpráva----- Od: BENT Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz Datum: 29. dubna 1999 15:33 Předmět: Re: Caj: TESCO - OXALIS >>zbytek jsou caje prumerne kvality (pro "pytlikare" nad-prumerne, >>pro cajomila pod-todleto). Radim nam - nakupujme u odbornika >>a Oxalis nechme masam. >> >> Pavel > > >Doporucuji Vasi pozornosti caj "Golden Nepal", prave >z produkce Oxalisu. Pri srovnani s "nepalovitymi" caji >jinych cajovych prodejcu vychazi (alespon pro moje poharky) >vyborne. Jde o cerveny caj plnejsi chuti a mamive aromaticke >vune. Pripravuji si ho po vecerech, kdyz mam hlad na caj. >Doba louhovani klasicky 3min, pro opravdu plnejsi chut >lze protahnou i na 5min bez vyrazneho zhorknuti. >Ke zbytku produkce a predevsim k druhu prodeje >Oxalisu nemam co dodat - souhlasim s vyse uvedenym. >Michael >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Apr 30 22:46:33 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA21561; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 22:46:33 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA21558 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 22:46:31 +0200 Received: from ns.brailcom.cz (root@ns.brailcom.cz [195.119.168.66]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA08538 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 22:46:24 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from bambuch (d16.brailcom.cz [195.119.168.157]) by ns.brailcom.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA05038 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 22:46:13 +0200 Message-ID: <000001be934a$a9dabbe0$9da877c3@bambuch> From: "Pavol Halaj" To: Subject: Caj: Problem Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 22:45:43 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Zdravím vsehcny cajomilce, nevím co se stalo, ale jiz delsí dobu nedostavam zadne maily. Prosim dejte zpravu zda je vse vporadku. Dekuji vsem zdraví Palo