From Majordomo@dione.zcu.cz Sat Mar 11 00:35:15 2000 Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 23:34:07 +0100 From: Majordomo@dione.zcu.cz To: jk@jikos.jikos.cz Subject: Majordomo file: list 'caj' file 'caj.9902' -- >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Feb 1 08:52:31 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA21805; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 08:52:31 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA21802 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 08:52:30 +0100 Received: from ns.felk.cvut.cz (ns.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.9]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA13405 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 08:52:28 +0100 (MET) Received: from hwlab.felk.cvut.cz (hwlab.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.90]) by ns.felk.cvut.cz (8.9.2/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA01897 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 08:52:28 +0100 (MET) Received: from HWLAB/SpoolDir by hwlab.felk.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 1 Feb 99 08:49:49 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by HWLAB (Mercury 1.31); 1 Feb 99 08:49:28 +0100 From: "Andrle Jakub" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 08:49:27 MET-1MEST Subject: Caj: Konvicky X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.40 Message-ID: <6BB971D2C6C@hwlab.felk.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz zdravim, chtel bych si koupit konvicku, ale nevim zda potrebuji dve nebo staci-li jedna. Vim, ze pouzivate jednu Yixing, ale nevim jestli je potreba druhou a jestli taky ma byt Yixing. Dale by me zajimalo, jestli jsou konvicky Yixing jen na pripravu caje "kung-fu" nebo se pouzivaji klasicky. Mohl by me nekdo zasvetit do toho, jak slouzi pri priprave caje konvicky, jaky vliv ma na caj pouzita konvicka ci jestli je nutne jich mit vice. caj Andrle Jakub --------------------------------- Andrle Jakub - student CVUT FEL - VT xandrle1@fel.cvut.cz --------------------------------- >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Feb 1 08:57:23 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA21832; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 08:57:23 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA21829 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 08:57:22 +0100 Received: from gate.hob.cz ([194.108.46.250]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA13598 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 08:57:21 +0100 (MET) Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by gate.hob.cz (8.8.2/8.8.2) id IAA32239 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 08:57:21 +0100 Received: from primus.hob.cz(172.21.1.16) by gate.hob.cz via smap (V2.1) id xma032230; Mon, 1 Feb 99 08:57:04 +0100 Received: by primus.hob.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <1A9QPMK0>; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 08:59:55 +0100 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?H=E1jek_Ctirad?= To: "'caj@dione.zcu.cz'" Subject: Caj: Roxy RE: Japonsky vecer Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 08:59:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id IAA21830 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Co je to prosim Roxy - cajovna? Pokud je to cajovna, tak kde bych ji nasel pri me pripadne ceste do Prahy. Diky Ctirad > ---------- > Odesílatel: Jan Bourek[SMTP:jan.bourek@asysijd.cz] > Bore da cajomilci, > tady vam posilam nejake informace o japonskem veceru konanem v Praze v > Roxy. Informace jsem si v Roxy primo vyzadal, takze by mely byt spravne > >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Feb 1 10:02:52 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA22125; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:02:52 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA22122 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:02:52 +0100 Received: from ms.globe.cz (ms.globe.cz [212.27.196.28]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA15921 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:02:51 +0100 (MET) Received: (from post@localhost) by ms.globe.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA06517; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:02:25 +0100 Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:02:25 +0100 Message-Id: <199902010902.KAA06517@ms.globe.cz> To: caj@dione.zcu.cz From: mudrcman@post.cz X-mailer: POST.CZ mailer v1.1 Subject: Caj: Bratislava Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Slunce v du^Úi Jsem nový nad^Úenec čajů přihlasejíce do čajové konference ji^Ţ před dvěma uplňky. Pozoruji va^Úi neobyčejnou a nadchnutí v^Úemocnou duskusi a schledávám tuto společnost za chváliv^Úe inspirující. Mnozí mne zřejmě poznavají z XCHATu. Zajímám se o východní filozofii, která neodtr^Ţitelně patří k čaji. Musím zde upozorniti v^Úechni čajové znalce, kteří se chystají nav^Útíviti čajovnu v Bratislavě na ulici Vajnorská, nebo^Ý tato podivná "čajovna" neni vůbec čajovna, ale spí^Úe připomínající obchůdek v zapadlé vesnici v rusku.Jediný čaj,který tam měli, měl du^Úi svázanou do pytlíku.Měli tam dva umělohmotné stolky, kde seděl starý pán a popíjel svojí denní kávu. Sortiment měli rozličný od cukru a^Ţ posu^Úenky. Jediný čaj, který jsem zahlédl byl ^Úípkoví. Po shlédnutí tohoto čajového úpadku a zneuctění slova "čajovna" jsem dostal nejdříve psychický ^Úok a potom zachvat smíchu. Děkuji vám za va^Úí pozornost. MUDRCMAN MUDRCMAN@POST.CZ >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Feb 1 10:03:26 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA22138; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:03:26 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA22135 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:03:25 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA15923 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:03:25 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA23964 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:03:28 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 1 Feb 99 10:03:25 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 1 Feb 99 10:03:00 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:02:51 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Roxy RE: Japonsky vecer X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <70780D191E@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Co je to prosim Roxy - cajovna? > Pokud je to cajovna, tak kde bych ji nasel pri me pripadne ceste do Prahy. Roxy neni cajovna (i kdyz soucasti Roxy cajovna je, ale...viz Cajomilcovi stranky a recenze na Roxy, s kterou vicemene souhlasim), ale tzv. experimentalni prostor v mistech byvaleho kina. Videt to tam stoji celkem za to, ale je dobre se pripravit na vselicos. Jsou tam akce dosti ruzneho razeni. Poprve jsem tam byl na ceskoirske skupine Celtic Rej, byl jsem z toho tehda uchvacen. Pak tam byvali pekne bubnovaci vecery (vcetne letajiciho koberce). No a pak mne uplne cizi houseparty, vzal si tam neco i prazsky Terminal bar ... proste ted uz tam chodit nemuzu. Cimz ale nechci nikoho odradit, jak jsem rekl, za navstevu to stoji. A misto? Dlouha trida (kousek od OD Kotva), cislo nevim, ale da se to lehce najit. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Feb 1 14:15:56 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA25087; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 14:15:56 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA25084 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 14:15:55 +0100 Received: from ns.felk.cvut.cz (ns.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.9]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA24870 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 14:15:51 +0100 (MET) Received: from sun (sun.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.32]) by ns.felk.cvut.cz (8.9.2/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA34623 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 14:15:52 +0100 (MET) Received: from sun45.felk.cvut.cz by sun (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08406; Mon, 1 Feb 99 14:15:51 +0100 Received: by sun45.felk.cvut.cz (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28603; Mon, 1 Feb 99 14:15:51 +0100 Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 14:15:50 +0100 (MET) From: Tregner Vaclav student 6_98_99 k336 X-Sender: xtregner@sun45 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz In-Reply-To: <36B488B7.6A1ED126@asysijd.cz> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id OAA25085 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Minule, > kdyz jsem tam byl s prateli, tak nam zas zdarma donesli sake. Je to > zajimave, v Cechach dost neobvykle (alespon pro mne). > > *JB* > Tak to je dost dobry. Ja kdyz byl v cinsky r. v Praze tak tam sklenicka sake stala asi 60 Kc. Asi jste jim udelali hodne velkou utratu, ze byli tak stedry :)   Vasek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Feb 1 14:56:58 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA25216; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 14:56:58 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA25213 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 14:56:57 +0100 Received: from hermes.iol.cz ([194.228.2.40]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA26254 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 14:56:51 +0100 (MET) Received: from my-pul-n ([194.228.128.146]) by hermes.iol.cz (Post.Office MTA v3.5.2 release 221 ID# 631-58653U30000L30000S0V35) with ESMTP id cz for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 14:56:13 +0100 From: "janvacek" To: Subject: Caj: Re: China restaurant Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 14:37:04 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <19990201135613.AAC10823@hermes.iol.cz@my-pul-n> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz ---------- Bore da, Proto odedneska ja rikam: LONG ČING.   ---------- Je to jako vsude ve velkych kralovstvich. Ja mam zase znamou pani Ling a ta rika Lung ting. Je spravne tramvaj nebo salina? Tak nejak to je. A co takhle Draci studna. Klani se Sasek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Feb 1 21:20:49 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA26069; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:20:49 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA26066 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:20:47 +0100 Received: from conan.asysijd.cz (mailexim@server.asysijd.cz [195.75.66.161]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA01156 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:20:45 +0100 (MET) Received: from kol-dial14.asysijd.cz (asysijd.cz) [195.75.66.24] by conan.asysijd.cz with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1 (Debian)) id 107Ppk-0003Ux-00; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:20:37 +0100 Message-ID: <36B60B15.8E9D83E@asysijd.cz> Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 21:14:13 +0100 From: Jan Bourek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Re: China restaurant References: <19990201135613.AAC10823@hermes.iol.cz@my-pul-n> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz   janvacek wrote: > ---------- > Bore da, > Proto odedneska ja rikam: LONG ČING. >   > > ---------- > > Je to jako vsude ve velkych kralovstvich. Ja mam zase znamou pani Ling a ta >  rika Lung ting. Je spravne tramvaj nebo salina? > Tak nejak to je. > A co takhle Draci studna. > Klani se > Sasek Bore da Saso (ne Alexandre), mas pravdu, ale nenajdes ke kazdemu caji cesky nazev a co pak? Nejlepsi je znat vsechny nazvy, i ty "narecni". To se ale od spravneho cajomila ocekava, ze? *JB* >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Feb 1 21:32:45 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA26131; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:32:45 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA26128 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:32:43 +0100 Received: from conan.asysijd.cz (mailexim@server.asysijd.cz [195.75.66.161]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA01326 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:32:35 +0100 (MET) Received: from kol-dial14.asysijd.cz (asysijd.cz) [195.75.66.24] by conan.asysijd.cz with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1 (Debian)) id 107Q17-0003Vv-00; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:32:22 +0100 Message-ID: <36B60DD7.6E224573@asysijd.cz> Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 21:25:59 +0100 From: Jan Bourek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Re: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz   Tregner Vaclav student 6_98_99 k336 wrote: > Tak to je dost dobry. Ja kdyz byl v cinsky r. v Praze tak tam sklenicka > sake stala asi 60 Kc. Asi jste jim udelali hodne velkou utratu, ze byli > tak stedry :) > Vasek   Bore da, taky ze jo, tady stala sklenka sake Kc 65,- a to ovoce ani nevim. Ale podle me jsou radi, ze tam vubec nekdo byl, protoze i minule jsme byli skoro sami (jeste 4 lidi). No a s tou utratou je to taky mozny, ale ono tam neco levneho k objednani opravdu neni. Holt cinska restaurace. Ale vari vyborne, skoda jen ze nebyla ta Draci studne, moc me zajimalo jak ji naserviruji (cena Kc 28,-). *JB* >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Feb 2 10:12:00 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA27910; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 10:12:00 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA27907 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 10:11:58 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA16011 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 10:11:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA14812 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 10:12:01 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 2 Feb 99 10:11:57 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 2 Feb 99 10:11:51 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 10:11:41 +100 Subject: Caj: Cajomilovi znalosti X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > Je to jako vsude ve velkych kralovstvich. Ja mam zase znamou pani Ling a ta > > rika Lung ting. Je spravne tramvaj nebo salina? > > Tak nejak to je. > > A co takhle Draci studna. > > Bore da Saso (ne Alexandre), > mas pravdu, ale nenajdes ke kazdemu caji cesky nazev a co pak? Nejlepsi je znat > vsechny nazvy, i ty "narecni". To se ale od spravneho cajomila ocekava, ze? Vazne? A proc? Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Feb 2 10:19:01 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA27960; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 10:19:01 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA27957 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 10:19:00 +0100 Received: from zp999a.zivpo.cz (ms.zivpo.cz [195.146.106.228]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA16089 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 10:18:59 +0100 (MET) Received: by ms.zivpo.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 10:18:58 +0100 Message-ID: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A3901197101@PUEX1C1> From: Toman Lukás To: "'caj@dione.zcu.cz'" Subject: Caj: RE: Cajomilovi znalosti Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 10:18:24 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > > Je to jako vsude ve velkych kralovstvich. Ja mam zase > znamou pani Ling a ta > > > rika Lung ting. Je spravne tramvaj nebo salina? > > > Tak nejak to je. > > > A co takhle Draci studna. > > > > Bore da Saso (ne Alexandre), > > mas pravdu, ale nenajdes ke kazdemu caji cesky nazev a co > pak? Nejlepsi je znat > > vsechny nazvy, i ty "narecni". To se ale od spravneho > cajomila ocekava, ze? > > Vazne? A proc? Treba uz jen proto, abys vedel, o cem je zrovna rec... Galenius >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Feb 2 10:30:22 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA28035; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 10:30:22 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA28031 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 10:30:20 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA16496 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 10:30:20 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16560; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 10:30:23 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 2 Feb 99 10:30:20 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 2 Feb 99 10:29:51 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz, jirimach@email.cz Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 10:29:46 +100 Subject: Caj: Duse vychodu X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Vazeni cajesmilci, toto bude vicemene pro prazaky, ale i pro navstevniky naseho vredoviteho hlavniho mesta. Prave se mi do ruky dostal letacek o dome Duse vychodu lezicim na zacatku Karlova mostu na Krizovnickem namesti. Pry je tam trvala prodejni vystava, galerie a (svete div se) CAJOVNA. Exponaty pry jsou dovazeny z Indie, Tibetu, Nepalu, Ciny (to je pekne, jak uz se rozdeluje Tibet a Cina, co?), Thaijska, Indonesie, Sri Lanky a mnoha jinych zemi. Otviraci doba: po-pa 11.00-19.00 so-ne 12.00-19.00. A co jeste pry maji? Hudebni nastroje, aromaterapie, kameny, bizuterie, prehozy, sosky, porcelan, keramika, hudba, fotografie, obrazky, vyjimecne suvenyry, koreni, CAJE a ruzne delikatesy do vasi kuchyne. Ojojojojoj, otacej se penezenko, treba v tobe neco pribude. Pokud jste tam uz nekdo byl, poreferujte. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Feb 2 10:34:23 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA28063; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 10:34:23 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA28060 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 10:34:22 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA16622 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 10:34:19 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17014 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 10:34:22 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 2 Feb 99 10:34:19 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 2 Feb 99 10:34:09 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 10:34:01 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: RE: Cajomilovi znalosti X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > mas pravdu, ale nenajdes ke kazdemu caji cesky nazev a co > > pak? Nejlepsi je znat > > vsechny nazvy, i ty "narecni". To se ale od spravneho > > cajomila ocekava, ze? > > > > Vazne? A proc? > > Treba uz jen proto, abys vedel, o cem je zrovna rec... No to vim, prece o dobrem caji? :-) Asi bych to shrnul tak, ze znat vsechny ty nazvy i v "nareci" se vyplati, aby clovek vedel, o cem je zrovna rec... Jinka bych si z predchoziho musel myslet, ze kdo to nezna, neni spravny cajomil. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Feb 2 12:17:38 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA30046; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 12:17:38 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA30043 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 12:17:37 +0100 Received: from hermes.iol.cz ([194.228.2.40]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA21030 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 12:17:35 +0100 (MET) Received: from my-pul-n ([194.228.128.130]) by hermes.iol.cz (Post.Office MTA v3.5.2 release 221 ID# 631-58653U30000L30000S0V35) with ESMTP id cz for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 12:17:01 +0100 From: "janvacek" To: Subject: Caj: Re: Konvicky Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 11:54:57 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19990202111701.AAC28778@hermes.iol.cz@my-pul-n> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Doporucoval bych konvicek 108. Nad kazdou z nich 108 dni recitovat sutru srdce a kazdy sedmy den se postit. Az toto bude vykonano, podobne otazky uz nebudou otravovat tvou mysl a ty budes skutecne vedet kolik potrebujes konvicek a na co. Klani se Sasek : : zdravim, : chtel bych si koupit konvicku, ale nevim zda potrebuji dve nebo : staci-li jedna. Vim, ze pouzivate jednu Yixing, ale nevim jestli je : potreba druhou a jestli taky ma byt Yixing. : Dale by me zajimalo, jestli jsou konvicky Yixing jen na pripravu : caje "kung-fu" nebo se pouzivaji klasicky. : Mohl by me nekdo zasvetit do toho, jak slouzi pri priprave caje : konvicky, jaky vliv ma na caj pouzita konvicka ci jestli je nutne : jich mit vice. : : caj : Andrle Jakub : >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Feb 2 12:24:53 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA30316; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 12:24:53 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA30313 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 12:24:53 +0100 Received: from zp999a.zivpo.cz (ms.zivpo.cz [195.146.106.228]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA21254 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 12:24:51 +0100 (MET) Received: by ms.zivpo.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 12:24:48 +0100 Message-ID: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A3901197105@PUEX1C1> From: Toman Lukáš To: "'caj@dione.zcu.cz'" Subject: Caj: RE: Re: Konvicky Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 12:24:14 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Doporucoval bych konvicek 108. Nad kazdou z nich 108 dni > recitovat sutru > srdce a kazdy sedmy den se postit. Az toto bude vykonano, > podobne otazky uz > nebudou otravovat tvou mysl a ty budes skutecne vedet kolik potrebujes > konvicek a na co. Jo. 107. den se nahle zarazis, nastves, vyhazist konvicky z okna, s posledni v ruce se zarazis, pohlednes na ni a tu si nechas. Zjistis, ze ti bohate staci jedna konvicka na vse. Galenius >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Feb 3 14:24:49 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA22977; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 14:24:49 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA22968 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 14:24:48 +0100 Received: from smtp.atlas.cz (smtp.atlas.cz [195.119.187.150]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA04396 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 14:24:48 +0100 (MET) Received: from puny.ujep.cz ([212.24.138.169]) by smtp.atlas.cz with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1875.185.18); Wed, 3 Feb 1999 14:23:02 +0100 From: "Ales Kubasek" To: "caj" Subject: Caj: Pozdrav od noveho clena :))) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 14:24:31 +0100 Message-ID: <000301be4f78$8862d1c0$a98a18d4@puny.ujep.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Zdravimm vsechny cajomilce ;))))) Trochu se rozkoukam a pak taky neco napisu ;))))) Cau Kuba. _____________________________________________________________________ Ales Kubasek eMail1: kuba@sun.ujep.cz eMail2: ales.kubasek@netbeans.com www: http://sun.ujep.cz/~kuba GSM: +420603475895 ICQ: 12713226 >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Feb 3 18:21:49 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA23627; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:21:49 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA23624 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:21:48 +0100 Received: from hermes.iol.cz ([194.228.2.40]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA09921 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:21:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from my-pul-n ([194.228.128.184]) by hermes.iol.cz (Post.Office MTA v3.5.2 release 221 ID# 631-58653U30000L30000S0V35) with ESMTP id cz for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:21:06 +0100 From: "janvacek" To: "=?ISO-8859-2?Q?=C8ajov=E1_konference?=" Subject: Caj: Rize Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:02:33 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19990203172106.AAC18051@hermes.iol.cz@my-pul-n> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz O jak dobry je caj rize. V chladnem dnu Sladoucky Hrejivy Klani se Sasek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Feb 4 10:28:25 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA25135; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 10:28:25 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA25132 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 10:28:24 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA05454 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 10:28:24 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA14241 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 10:28:24 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 4 Feb 99 10:28:24 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 4 Feb 99 10:28:04 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 10:28:03 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Rize X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <3A8E3F740E@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > O jak dobry je caj rize. > V chladnem dnu > Sladoucky > Hrejivy Ja jaj, no jo, je to zvlastni, ze o tomto zivotabudici tu jeste nepadlo slovo. Davam mu plus, ovsem musi se spravne udelat (me se to doma nedarilo, ale to jsem netusil, ze se ma nejdriv oprazit). Jinak opet pro prazaky. Vcera jsem navstivil zminovanou prodejni galerii Duse vychodu a ... hned jsem koupil krasnou kosili za 350,-. Zatim je tam toho hodne ve stavu tvoreni (otevirali tohle pondeli), jsou toho 4 patra, v hornim by mela byt cajovna. Jedna se o aktivitu Data a myslim, ze tam maji i prvky ze Sanu Babu ... kdo zna, vi oc jde, kdo nezna, at se prijde podivat. Stoji to za to. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Feb 5 13:32:13 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA02240; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 13:32:13 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA02237 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 13:32:11 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA12493 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 13:32:11 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA26648 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 13:32:11 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 5 Feb 99 13:32:11 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 5 Feb 99 13:32:10 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 13:32:07 +100 Subject: Caj: Pokus X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <55A09676E0@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Uz nekolik dni mi z konference nic neprislo a tak jen zkousim pruchodnost sveho vlastniho mailu. Proto budte, prosim, k tomuto dopisu shovivavi. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Feb 5 14:25:23 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA02495; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 14:25:23 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA02492 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 14:25:22 +0100 Received: from ns1.ipnet.cz (ns1.ipnet.cz [212.20.64.2]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA14729 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 14:25:18 +0100 (MET) Received: from pent-200 (a3r1-pribram.ipnet.cz [212.20.68.56]) by ns1.ipnet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA05744 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 14:25:09 +0100 Message-ID: <002401be510a$50aa1840$384414d4@pent-200> From: "BENT" To: Subject: Caj: Re: RE: Re: Konvicky Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 14:12:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz -----Původní zpráva----- Od: Toman Lukáš Komu: 'caj@dione.zcu.cz' Datum: 2. února 1999 12:28 Předmět: Caj: RE: Re: Konvicky >> Doporucoval bych konvicek 108. Nad kazdou z nich 108 dni >> recitovat sutru >> srdce a kazdy sedmy den se postit. Az toto bude vykonano, >> podobne otazky uz >> nebudou otravovat tvou mysl a ty budes skutecne vedet kolik potrebujes >> konvicek a na co. > >Jo. 107. den se nahle zarazis, nastves, vyhazist konvicky z okna, s posledni >v ruce se zarazis, pohlednes na ni a tu si nechas. Zjistis, ze ti bohate >staci jedna konvicka na vse. > >Galenius > Samozrejme ze Vam staci jedna konvicka. Ostatne proc konvicka? Muzete pit caj z pulitru, nebo z oridzinelni zavarovacky od mandarinek, aby jste si priblizil atmosferu jistych kantonu. Nebo pijte rovnou vodu, primo z dlane a sedte pritom v sudu :-) To ma taky svou tradici. Pak budete totalne wabi. Stridmost je zajiste chvalihodna vec (zvlaste kdyz se projevuje nejen formou materialni, ale tez slovni). Nejsem si jenom jist zda ji nekteri chapou v jeji duchovni podstate, nebo zda ji prosazuji pro jeji chvilkovou modnost. Osobne nevidim na vetsim mnozstvi konvicek nic spatneho a sam je take pouzivam. Kdyz vecer zvazuji ktery druh caje zvolit, pripadne ktery salek ci konvicku pouzit, necitim tento rozhodovaci proces jako otraveni mysli. Kdyz nekdo prohlasi, ze je jeho zpusobou piti veskery caj z jednoho druhu konve a jednoho salku, nebudu mu to vyvracet. Prosim je to jeho cesta, dulezite je, ze mu vyhovuje. Takze pokud mohu primo k pisateli puvodniho prispevku (J.Anderle). Osvedcilo se mi pouzivat na aromaticke a cerne caje porcelan, na zelene caje pouzivam terakotu. Na cerne caje hlubsi salky, na zelene melci kalisky. Jako prvni navrhuji koupi porcelanove konvice (lépe se vyplachuje) a až po čase terakotu (Yixing), která je dle mého soudu drazsí - pokud má tedy příjemně vypadat. Ovsem pozor, nejde o zadny vseobecne uznavany pristup - pouze o osobni zkusenost. Treba ji ta Vase brzy prekona a zdokonali. S pratelskym pozdravem Michael P.S.Mimochodem zajimalo by mne jestli na vychode piji take obcas pivo z oridzinelnich pivnich lahvich zamazanych od malty a podavanych v monterkach na leseni. Tak je to v nasi pivni zemi prece zvykem :-) >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Sun Feb 7 22:18:56 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA07915; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 22:18:56 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA07912 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 22:18:55 +0100 Received: from hermes.iol.cz ([194.228.2.40]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA07767 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 22:18:52 +0100 (MET) Received: from my-pul-n ([194.228.128.135]) by hermes.iol.cz (Post.Office MTA v3.5.2 release 221 ID# 631-58653U30000L30000S0V35) with ESMTP id cz for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 22:18:36 +0100 From: "janvacek" To: Subject: Caj: Re: Re: RE: Re: Konvicky Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 22:07:30 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <19990207211836.AAA17801@hermes.iol.cz@my-pul-n> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz ---------- Odesílatel: BENT Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz Předmět: Caj: Re: RE: Re: Konvicky Datum: 5. II 1999 14:12 -----Původní zpráva----- Od: Toman Lukáš Komu: 'caj@dione.zcu.cz' Datum: 2. února 1999 12:28 Předmět: Caj: RE: Re: Konvicky >> Doporucoval bych konvicek 108. Nad kazdou z nich 108 dni >> recitovat sutru >> srdce a kazdy sedmy den se postit. Az toto bude vykonano, >> podobne otazky uz >> nebudou otravovat tvou mysl a ty budes skutecne vedet kolik potrebujes >> konvicek a na co. > >Jo. 107. den se nahle zarazis, nastves, vyhazist konvicky z okna, s posledni >v ruce se zarazis, pohlednes na ni a tu si nechas. Zjistis, ze ti bohate >staci jedna konvicka na vse. > >Galenius > Samozrejme ze Vam staci jedna konvicka. Ostatne proc konvicka? Muzete pit caj z pulitru, nebo z oridzinelni zavarovacky od mandarinek, aby jste si priblizil atmosferu jistych kantonu. Nebo pijte rovnou vodu, primo z dlane a sedte pritom v sudu :-) To ma taky svou tradici. Pak budete totalne wabi. Stridmost je zajiste chvalihodna vec (zvlaste kdyz se projevuje nejen formou materialni, ale tez slovni). Nejsem si jenom jist zda ji nekteri chapou v jeji duchovni podstate, nebo zda ji prosazuji pro jeji chvilkovou modnost. Osobne nevidim na vetsim mnozstvi konvicek nic spatneho a sam je take pouzivam. Kdyz vecer zvazuji ktery druh caje zvolit, pripadne ktery salek ci konvicku pouzit, necitim tento rozhodovaci proces jako otraveni mysli. Kdyz nekdo prohlasi, ze je jeho zpusobou piti veskery caj z jednoho druhu konve a jednoho salku, nebudu mu to vyvracet. Prosim je to jeho cesta, dulezite je, ze mu vyhovuje. Takze pokud mohu primo k pisateli puvodniho prispevku (J.Anderle). Osvedcilo se mi pouzivat na aromaticke a cerne caje porcelan, na zelene caje pouzivam terakotu. Na cerne caje hlubsi salky, na zelene melci kalisky. Jako prvni navrhuji koupi porcelanove konvice (lépe se vyplachuje) a až po čase terakotu (Yixing), která je dle mého soudu drazsí - pokud má tedy příjemně vypadat. Ovsem pozor, nejde o zadny vseobecne uznavany pristup - pouze o osobni zkusenost. Treba ji ta Vase brzy prekona a zdokonali. S pratelskym pozdravem Michael Az jsem se lekl te vybojnosti. Lec z reakce bylo znat, ze Saskovo "doporuceni" nebylo vubec pochopeno. Asi jeho vinou. Proto pokus o male objasnení. O tom, ze by mela stacit pouze jedna konvicka nebyla ani rec. Sasek jich ma take nekolik. Mozna to do tohoto tonu prinesla prvni reakce na 108 konvickovych veceru. A ted dale. Lide sobe a ostatnim kladou otazky z rozlicnych duvodu. Saska ted budou zajímat duvody dva, protoze maji vztah k one konvickove zprave. Prvni je asi ten nejobvyklejsi - chceme znat na sve otazky odpovedi. Chci-li znat odpoved na neco, musim nejprve polozit otazku. Tento náhled na vec asi nikoho neprekvapi. Ten druhy duvod, spousta, nebo spise vestsina, lidi vubec nezna. Otazky jsou tu proto, abych objevil odkud prichazeji, proc se vubec vynoruji. Hledam jejich zdroj. Nezajima me konkretni odpoved, ale duvod, proc vubec otazka vznikla, proc vubec je. Je-li clovek dostatece vytrvaly a nenecha se svest jednodusi A variantou, stane se neco neobvykleho. Otazka zmizi. Namisto ni je zde odpoved. Odpoved, ktera je nezavisla na otazce. Je zde porad, a je to odpoved universalne platna a proto nesdelitelna.Vzdy vterinu pred otazkou. Otazek jiz neni treba, vnimani je ciste a jasne a neni jiz "otravovano otazkami". Nekdo by mohl namitnout, ze je to trochu mimo ramec teto konference. Neni tomu tak. Je mnoho cest, ktere se snazi pozornost odpoutat od okolnich veci, a zamerit ji dovnitr, k podstate, k Tichu. Jednou z techto cest muze byt, a ve sve nejvyssi urovni i je, cesta Caje. O tom bylo Saskovo doporuceni. Nebylo hanlive, ani nadrazene. Snazilo se ukazat na podstatu Caje a vseho toho kolem nej. Snad Saskovi prominete tuto filozofickou vlozku. Je totiz posledni. Stale vice totiz citi, ze prichazi cas, kdy je potreba zacit se ucit o vecech mlcet a ne mluvit. A to rozhodne neni podstatou teto konference. Mejte se proto pekne odchazim do jineho kralovstvi, kde lide sobe vidi do oci, kdyz chteji si neco sdelit mohou tak cinit s hacky a carkami, a kdyz chteji jen pospolu mlcet, mohou tak cinit bez toho, aniz by po nich zbyly pouze prazdne internetove stranky.... Jo a taky tam voni Caj. Klani se Sasek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Feb 8 08:22:52 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA08806; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 08:22:52 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA08803 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 08:22:51 +0100 Received: from eryx1.zcu.cz (eryx1.zcu.cz [147.228.52.12]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA12332 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 08:22:51 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (jurista@localhost) by eryx1.zcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA02376 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 08:22:51 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: eryx1.zcu.cz: jurista owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 08:22:51 +0100 (MET) From: Demeter Jurista X-Sender: jurista@eryx1.zcu.cz To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Sitchuan (asi tak nejak se to pise) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ahoj vsem, zda se mi, ze na cajove konferenci nejak zapracovala chripkova epidemie a pokosila vetsinu dopisovatelu. Nastesti se mne zatim neujala a tak bych mohl polozit jednu zaludnou otazku. Minuly tyden jsem si koupil novy sypany caj cerveny Sitchuan. Listky jsou kratke jehlovite. Chut mi ponekud pripominala Nepal. A ted ta otazka uz jste nekdy nekdo tento cajik zkousel, jake s nim mate zkusenosti? Mita DJ >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Feb 8 13:25:09 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA09998; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 13:25:09 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA09995 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 13:25:07 +0100 Received: from ns1.ipnet.cz (ns1.ipnet.cz [212.20.64.2]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA22331 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 13:25:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from pent-200 (a5r1-pribram.ipnet.cz [212.20.68.58]) by ns1.ipnet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA14918 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 13:24:43 +0100 Message-ID: <000201be535d$56df6ee0$3a4414d4@pent-200> From: "BENT" To: Subject: Caj: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Konvicky Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 13:08:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz >Az jsem se lekl te vybojnosti. Lec z reakce bylo znat, ze Saskovo >"doporuceni" nebylo vubec pochopeno. Asi jeho vinou. Proto pokus o male >objasnení. >O tom, ze by mela stacit pouze jedna konvicka nebyla ani rec. Sasek jich ma >take nekolik. Mozna to do tohoto tonu prinesla prvni reakce na 108 >konvickovych veceru. >A ted dale. Lide sobe a ostatnim kladou otazky z rozlicnych duvodu. Saska >ted budou zajímat duvody dva, protoze maji vztah k one konvickove zprave. >Prvni je asi ten nejobvyklejsi - chceme znat na sve otazky odpovedi. >Chci-li znat odpoved na neco, musim nejprve polozit otazku. Tento náhled na >vec asi nikoho neprekvapi. Ten druhy duvod, spousta, nebo spise vestsina, >lidi vubec nezna. Otazky jsou tu proto, abych objevil odkud prichazeji, >proc se vubec vynoruji. Hledam jejich zdroj. Nezajima me konkretni odpoved, >ale duvod, proc vubec otazka vznikla, proc vubec je. Je-li clovek dostatece >vytrvaly a nenecha se svest jednodusi A variantou, stane se neco >neobvykleho. Otazka zmizi. Namisto ni je zde odpoved. Odpoved, ktera je >nezavisla na otazce. Je zde porad, a je to odpoved universalne platna a >proto nesdelitelna.Vzdy vterinu pred otazkou. Otazek jiz neni treba, >vnimani je ciste a jasne a neni jiz "otravovano otazkami". >Nekdo by mohl namitnout, ze je to trochu mimo ramec teto konference. Neni >tomu tak. Je mnoho cest, ktere se snazi pozornost odpoutat od okolnich >veci, a zamerit ji dovnitr, k podstate, k Tichu. Jednou z techto cest muze >byt, a ve sve nejvyssi urovni i je, cesta Caje. >O tom bylo Saskovo doporuceni. Nebylo hanlive, ani nadrazene. Snazilo se >ukazat na podstatu Caje a vseho toho kolem nej. >Snad Saskovi prominete tuto filozofickou vlozku. Je totiz posledni. Stale >vice totiz citi, ze prichazi cas, kdy je potreba zacit se ucit o vecech >mlcet a ne mluvit. A to rozhodne neni podstatou teto konference. >Mejte se proto pekne odchazim do jineho kralovstvi, kde lide sobe vidi do >oci, kdyz chteji si neco sdelit mohou tak cinit s hacky a carkami, a kdyz >chteji jen pospolu mlcet, mohou tak cinit bez toho, aniz by po nich zbyly >pouze prazdne internetove stranky.... Jo a taky tam voni Caj. >Klani se >Sasek > Predem se chci všem omluvit za mozna dlouhy a mozna suchoparny prispevek, kterym citim potrebu reagovat. Nejsou v nem ani chemicke vzorce teinu, nepojednava o jednotlivych druzich caju ani o cajove keramice, presto je snad trochu o caji. Tem kdo patraji po vyse uvedenych informacich doporucuji necist ho a usetrit tak svuj jiste drahoceny cas. A jeste jedna vec pro upresneni (uz jsem to mel udelat davno). Pod znackou BENT tady piseme dva. Ja (Michael) a muj bratr Tom. ---------------------- Nevim jestli Vas na teto konferenci jeste zastihnu, ale protoze bych nerad, aby nase rozmluva skoncila v tomto duchu, alespon se o to pokusim. O neporozumneni a stylu komunikace: Zustane neprijemnou skutecnosti, ze vest duchovni debatu o vecech krehke podstaty (jako je mimo jine duse Caje)po elektronickych mediich je prakticky nemozne. Nonverbalni komunikace, kterou v beznem rozhovoru vyjadrite vice nez 50% sdeleni je potlacena. Intonace hlasu, vyraz obliceja i postoj tela je odfiltrovan hustym sitkem nekolika klaves. Nota bene bez hacku a carek. Lehce se muze stat, ze jemne ironicke zatukani prstu o stul, vyzni z nezucastnene obrazovky coby hluk tovarniho bucharu pretvarejici ocelovy ingot. Kdyz k tomu prictete miru nesikovnosti kterou disponuji, vyjde z toho prispevek, ktery vyzniva vybojne az utocne. Mea culpa. O tech kteri vi: Neoblibuji si prikre odsudky a absolutni soudy. Nepraktikuji dokonavost. V rozhovoru na ne odpovidam povetsinou usmevem. (Lec jak jinak v teto diskusi vyjadrit usmev, nez dvojteckou, pomlckou a zavorkou v pravo?) Presto, ze svet vypada jak vypada, tech kteri 100% vi co a jak jsou spousty. Vysledkem pak jsou ruzna desatera (v tomto pripade cajova), nebo vynosy o tom ktery caj je mezi odbornou verejnosti v oblibe a ktery nikoli. Tento podivuhodny zvyk se nepraktikuje pouze v teto konferenci, ale potazmo i v nektere cajove literature. Matne se mi vybavuje jeden z Murphyho zakonu: "Existuji lide sporadani a lide nesporadani. O tom kudy vede delici cara rozhoduji ti sporadani." O cestach (a taky trochu smyslu tehle konference): Cesta kazdeho z nas se objevuje ve chvili kdy na ni vkrocime a pujde vzdy milimetr pred nami, dokud nezustaneme stat. Muzeme po ni kracet sami, muzeme kracet s nekym, aby chvile prijemneji utekla, nebo abychom se dozvedeli o peknych mistech, pripadne o strzenem mostu pres rozvodnenou reku. Sem-tam je dobre posadit se, odpocinout, zvazit dalsi smer a pomlcet si. Jak se lidove rika "vorazit". V tehle, snad bych to osklive nazval mezifazi, ja praktikuji caj (s velkym nebo malym C, jak libo). Nepouzil jsem zamerne souslovi "Cestu Caje". Spise jde o jakesi cajove spocinuti. Nejsem si totiz zcela jist, jestli by mne Sen Rikjuova cesta v mem svete nekam dovedla. Zda se totiz, ze clovek (treba jen v mem svete) potrebuje pro putovani i par ryze materialnich veci. Mimo jine alespon tu tvrdou cestu o kterou si otloukame nohy :-) Jak vidite nejsem s Vasim nazorem v nizadnem podstatnem sporu. Preji Vam hodne stesti pri Vasem cestovani a kdyz Vam nekdy zbyde cas zastavte se povypravet kudy jste chodil. Nebo kdo vi? Mozna se jednou potkame u milniku a (treba) cajove konvice a budeme si o tom moci pospolu jeste jednou pomlcet. Jen doufam, ze to uz bude s carkami a hacky. S pratelskym pozdravem Michael >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Feb 8 15:07:12 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA10457; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 15:07:12 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA10454 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 15:07:11 +0100 Received: from server.ica.cz (IDENT:root@[195.47.13.11]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA26229 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 15:07:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from brn.pvt.cz (com.ica.cz [195.47.13.10]) by server.ica.cz (8.9.2/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA19193 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 15:06:55 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <36BEEF6F.A3140D35@brn.pvt.cz> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 15:06:39 +0100 From: Petr Buchmaier X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: cs MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Nove cajove stranky References: <000201be535d$56df6ee0$3a4414d4@pent-200> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Dobry den dovoluji si vas pozvat na nove ceske cajove stranky "U salku caje". Napiste jak se vam stranky libi, co by jste radi jeste pridali. Vse neni jeste hotovo, ale behem nekolika dnu se snad podari obsah rozsirit. adresa je http://www.caje.cz tesim se na vese maily Petr Buchmaier mailto:caje@caje.cz >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Feb 8 23:00:48 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA12198; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 23:00:48 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA12195 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 23:00:47 +0100 Received: from conan.asysijd.cz (mailexim@server.asysijd.cz [195.75.66.161]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA04557 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 23:00:44 +0100 (MET) Received: from kol-dial11.asysijd.cz (asysijd.cz) [195.75.66.21] by conan.asysijd.cz with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1 (Debian)) id 109yjS-0000Up-00; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 23:00:43 +0100 Message-ID: <36BF5D03.1EA03B86@asysijd.cz> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 22:54:11 +0100 From: Jan Bourek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: - Cajovy Dychanek - Subject: Caj: Japonska noc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Bore da, me neznicila chripka, ale nici me organicka chemie, delam ji ve ctvrtek a nic jeste neumim (nedelam si iluze). Ale to je fuk. Dulezite je ze jsem tedy byl v Praze v ROXY na Japonskem veceru. Samozrejme jsem se nejvice tesil na cajovy obrad. Abych ale rekl pravdu (ne, nebijte me, ja to tak citil), byl japonsky cajovy obrad nejslabsi clanek celeho vecera. Kaligrafie vynikajici, divadelni predstaveni strhujici a uchvatna, japonske kreslene serialy pekne (a krvave), cesta zpet do Kolina uplne hnusna. Jen ten obrad mi pripadal takovy neosobni, az skoro jako divadylko. Byl tam nekdo z konference taky? Ja jsem zadne znameni nespatril, jinak jsem sedel v prvni rade na zidlickach (pri obradu) nekde ve stredu, mensi postava cela v cernem. Priste se o tom rozepisu, az bude cas. *JB* >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Feb 9 00:35:53 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA12386; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:35:53 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA12383 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:35:53 +0100 Received: from conan.asysijd.cz (mailexim@server.asysijd.cz [195.75.66.161]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA05944 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:35:52 +0100 (MET) Received: from kol-dial11.asysijd.cz (asysijd.cz) [195.75.66.21] by conan.asysijd.cz with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1 (Debian)) id 10A0DX-0000do-00; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:35:52 +0100 Message-ID: <36BF7350.BAA4C387@asysijd.cz> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 00:29:20 +0100 From: Jan Bourek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: - Cajovy Dychanek - Subject: Caj: Vodovodni voda z vodovodu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Bore da, dnes rano jsem zjistil, ze uz nemam kvalitni vodu na pripravu caju. Rikam si: zkusim si udelat caj (taky nekdy) z vody z kohoutku. A tak se stalo. Udelal jsem Formosu Fancy Oolong. No to se nedalo pit. Odporna nakysla chut, fuj. Sanitr se mi vysrazel v konvinci a voda byla uplne bila, no hnus. Uz to nikdy neudelam. *JB* >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Feb 9 07:55:24 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA13092; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 07:55:24 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA13089 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 07:55:23 +0100 Received: from eryx1.zcu.cz (eryx1.zcu.cz [147.228.52.12]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA10305 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 07:55:22 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (jurista@localhost) by eryx1.zcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA24795 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 07:55:21 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: eryx1.zcu.cz: jurista owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 07:55:21 +0100 (MET) From: Demeter Jurista X-Sender: jurista@eryx1.zcu.cz To: - Cajovy Dychanek - Subject: Re: Caj: Vodovodni voda z vodovodu In-Reply-To: <36BF7350.BAA4C387@asysijd.cz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ahojky > dnes rano jsem zjistil, ze uz nemam kvalitni vodu na pripravu caju. To je opravdu neprijemne zjisteni obzvlaste po ranu... > Rikam si: zkusim si udelat caj (taky nekdy) z vody z kohoutku. A tak se > stalo. Udelal jsem Formosu Fancy Oolong. No to se nedalo pit. Odporna V zasade proc ne, jen je treba napojit kohoutek na zdroj dobre (nemusi jit o Dobrou) vody. Jinak ja varim caj jen z vodovodni vody, ale musim k tomu dodat, ze jsem v Plzni, no a kdyz je zdejsi voda dobra na pivo, musi byt dobra i na caj. A zatim musim rici, ze se stoprocentne osvedcila a to na vsechny druhy caje. Kdo neveri at to zkusi... Mita DJ >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Feb 9 09:40:13 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA13285; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 09:40:13 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA13282 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 09:40:12 +0100 From: SEVEROVA@gytool.cz Received: from power.ol.cesnet.cz ([194.212.160.147]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA14084 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 09:40:09 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailer.gytool.cz ([194.212.37.22]) by power.ol.cesnet.cz (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id JAA22938 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 09:28:12 +0100 (NFT) Received: from GH-2/SpoolDir by mailer.gytool.cz (Mercury 1.44); 9 Feb 99 09:40:07 MET +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by GH-2 (Mercury 1.44); 9 Feb 99 09:40:02 MET +0100 Organization: Gymnazium v Olomouci-Hejcine, CZ To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 09:39:55 MET +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Caj: prima stranky X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.40 Message-ID: <21B48310F4@mailer.gytool.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Na adrese HTTP://WWW.MAS.CZ/~CIGI je prima stranka o caji s moznosti objednavky. Je to solidni, ceny v pohode a dodavka bleskova. Jen tu vuni az pak doma.... >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Feb 9 09:46:38 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA13337; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 09:46:38 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA13334 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 09:46:37 +0100 From: SEVEROVA@gytool.cz Received: from power.ol.cesnet.cz ([194.212.160.147]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA14560 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 09:46:37 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailer.gytool.cz ([194.212.37.22]) by power.ol.cesnet.cz (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id JAA21492 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 09:34:41 +0100 (NFT) Received: from GH-2/SpoolDir by mailer.gytool.cz (Mercury 1.44); 9 Feb 99 09:46:36 MET +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by GH-2 (Mercury 1.44); 9 Feb 99 09:46:11 MET +0100 Organization: Gymnazium v Olomouci-Hejcine, CZ To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 09:46:03 MET +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Caj: Vodovodni voda z vodovodu X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.40 Message-ID: <21CEBB1800@mailer.gytool.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ja teda varim v Olomouci caj porad z vody z vodovodu a je super. Zkousela jsem i Dobrou vodu, ale je to stejne. treba je v nasem meste v potrubi Dobra voda. S.S. >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Feb 9 10:58:28 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA13763; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 10:58:28 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA13760 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 10:58:28 +0100 Received: from ns-pils.pilsner-urquell.cz (ns-pils.pilsner-urquell.cz [193.85.100.5]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA17214 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 10:58:27 +0100 (MET) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns-pils.pilsner-urquell.cz (8.9.0/8.8.5) with UUCP id LAA11121 for caj@dione.zcu.cz; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 11:22:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from plzen11.pilsner-urquell.cz (plzen11.pilsner-urquell.cz [172.20.1.11]) by ns1.pilsner-urquell.cz (8.9.0/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA11010 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 11:37:23 +0100 (CET) Received: by plzen11.pilsner-urquell.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 10:31:45 +0100 Message-ID: From: "Fousek Martin Ing." To: "'caj@dione.zcu.cz'" Subject: RE: Caj: Vodovodni voda z vodovodu Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 10:31:36 +0100 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Jinak ja varim caj jen z vodovodni vody, ale musim k tomu dodat, > ze jsem v Plzni, no a kdyz je zdejsi voda dobra na pivo, musi byt > dobra i > na caj. A zatim musim rici, ze se stoprocentne osvedcila a to na > vsechny > druhy caje. Kdo neveri at to zkusi... > Mita DJ > Moje rec, jako zamestnanec a vyznavac Plzenskeho Prazdroje a zaroven cajomilec mohu jen potvrdit - voda pro vareni piva, snad mi odpustite tuto odbocku od caje, se deli na mekkou plzenskou,mirne tvrdou mnichovskou a velmi tvrdou dortmunskou. Proto je voda v plzenske vodovodni siti zrejme mekci, nez voda v jinych mestech (vzdyt spotreba vody na vareni piva je 15 hl na jeden uvareny hl a Plzensky Prazdroj tech hektolitru uvari 5 milionu rocne - a to je preci odberatel, pro ktereho se uz vyplati vodu v siti trochu upravit - nebo ne?) Zdravi Martin >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Feb 9 12:28:13 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA15145; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 12:28:13 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA15142 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 12:28:12 +0100 Received: from kiv.zcu.cz (ur404p01-rek.rek.zcu.cz [147.228.71.108]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA05214; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 12:28:11 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <36C01BCB.1A088107@kiv.zcu.cz> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 12:28:11 +0100 From: Pavel Baxa Organization: ZCU Plzen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: cs,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: prima stranky References: <21B48310F4@mailer.gytool.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Pane majiteli, co vy na tu chvalu? Hreje to u srdce, co? Pavel Baxa SEVEROVA@gytool.cz wrote: > > Na adrese HTTP://WWW.MAS.CZ/~CIGI je prima stranka o caji s moznosti > objednavky. Je to solidni, ceny v pohode a dodavka bleskova. Jen tu > vuni az pak doma.... >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Feb 9 14:06:29 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA15710; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 14:06:29 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA15707 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 14:06:27 +0100 Received: from ns.jes.cz (IDENT:root@[194.228.41.66]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA24142 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 14:06:19 +0100 (MET) Received: from default (dial-up002.jes.cz. [194.228.41.125]) by ns.jes.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA11285 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 14:06:07 +0100 Message-ID: <000201be542c$dfe87400$7d29e4c2@default> From: "Filgorn" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Vodovodni voda z vodovodu Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 09:43:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ja bydlim v Jeseniku, vodu na caj beru bezne z vodovodu a je dobry. Akorat ze u nas ta voda zbarvuje topne spiraly na cerveno - vypadaji pak jako rezave :-))). Ale caj je dobry. Filgorn -----Původní zpráva----- Od: Demeter Jurista Komu: - Cajovy Dychanek - Datum: 9. února 1999 8:00 Předmět: Re: Caj: Vodovodni voda z vodovodu >Ahojky > >> dnes rano jsem zjistil, ze uz nemam kvalitni vodu na pripravu caju. > To je opravdu neprijemne zjisteni obzvlaste po ranu... > >> Rikam si: zkusim si udelat caj (taky nekdy) z vody z kohoutku. A tak se >> stalo. Udelal jsem Formosu Fancy Oolong. No to se nedalo pit. Odporna > V zasade proc ne, jen je treba napojit kohoutek na zdroj dobre >(nemusi jit o Dobrou) vody. > Jinak ja varim caj jen z vodovodni vody, ale musim k tomu dodat, >ze jsem v Plzni, no a kdyz je zdejsi voda dobra na pivo, musi byt dobra i >na caj. A zatim musim rici, ze se stoprocentne osvedcila a to na vsechny >druhy caje. Kdo neveri at to zkusi... > Mita DJ > > >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Feb 9 14:13:48 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA15823; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 14:13:48 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA15820 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 14:13:48 +0100 Received: from zp999a.zivpo.cz (ms.zivpo.cz [195.146.106.228]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA24413 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 14:13:47 +0100 (MET) Received: by ms.zivpo.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <1KV4AWR2>; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 14:13:46 +0100 Message-ID: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A3901197118@PUEX1C1> From: Toman Lukás To: "'caj@dione.zcu.cz'" Subject: RE: Caj: Vodovodni voda z vodovodu Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 14:13:28 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz U nas v Pardubicich taky bezne pouzivam vodu z vodovodu a nemuzu si stezovat... Galenius >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Feb 9 23:11:52 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA17956; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:11:52 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA17952 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:11:49 +0100 Received: from conan.asysijd.cz (mailexim@server.asysijd.cz [195.75.66.161]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA05270 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:11:46 +0100 (MET) Received: from kol-dial6.asysijd.cz (asysijd.cz) [195.75.66.16] by conan.asysijd.cz with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1 (Debian)) id 10ALNg-0004aI-00; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:11:45 +0100 Message-ID: <36C0B101.FBC7BCB5@asysijd.cz> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 23:04:50 +0100 From: Jan Bourek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Vodovodni voda z vodovodu References: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A3901197118@PUEX1C1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > U nas v Pardubicich taky bezne pouzivam vodu z vodovodu a nemuzu si > stezovat... > >         Galenius Boze ja vam zavidim. V Koline je to hnuj odpornej smradlavej spinavej, fuj. Rozhodne ta Formosa Fancy Oolong byla odporne nahorkla. Ja normalne delam caje z vody prodavane v plastovych lahvich (nejaka kojenecka a tak podobne). Zavidim vam vsem. Jo takhle bydlet si v horach u studanky v klidu na kopci u lesa na samote nerusen ACH ACH ACH. ahoj *JB* >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Feb 10 09:17:22 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA19133; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:17:22 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA19130 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:17:21 +0100 Received: from server.ica.cz (IDENT:root@[195.47.13.11]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA12793 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:17:19 +0100 (MET) Received: from brn.pvt.cz (com.ica.cz [195.47.13.10]) by server.ica.cz (8.9.2/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA03360 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:16:45 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <36C14058.773FBA0D@brn.pvt.cz> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:16:24 +0100 From: Petr Buchmaier X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: cs MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Nova kniha o zelenem caji References: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A3901197118@PUEX1C1> <36C0B101.FBC7BCB5@asysijd.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Dobry den vcera jsem si koupil novou knihu o zelenem caji. Posilam nejake zakladni informace: Nazev: Japonsky zeleny caj a zdravi Vydavatel: T-art jako svou 1. publikaci, Trutnov 1999 Graficka uprava: Milan Ales Obalka: Josef Koutek ISBN:80-86301-00-1 Pocet stran: 27 Format: A5 Cena: 36,- Kc Na titulni strane najdete japonskou? gejsu nabizejici salek caje. Blizsi informace vcetne obalky se do konce tydne objevi na serveru http://www.caje.cz Petr Buchmaier >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Feb 10 16:44:29 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA22143; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 16:44:29 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA22140 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 16:44:26 +0100 Received: from okusrv.oku-cl.cz (oku-dlink-eth.clnet.cz [193.165.96.214]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA28980 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 16:44:24 +0100 (MET) Received: from pavel (mojtek.oku-cl.cz [193.165.97.135]) by okusrv.oku-cl.cz (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA01942 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 16:44:25 +0100 Message-ID: <002301be550c$37609e80$8761a5c1@pavel.oku-cl.cz> From: "Pavel Mojtek" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Vodovodni voda z vodovodu Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 16:44:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Moje rec, jako zamestnanec a vyznavac Plzenskeho Prazdroje a >zaroven cajomilec mohu jen potvrdit - voda pro vareni piva, snad mi >odpustite tuto odbocku od caje, se deli na mekkou plzenskou,mirne tvrdou >mnichovskou a velmi tvrdou dortmunskou. Proto je voda v plzenske >vodovodni siti zrejme mekci, nez voda v jinych mestech (vzdyt spotreba >vody na vareni piva je 15 hl na jeden uvareny hl a Plzensky Prazdroj >tech hektolitru uvari 5 milionu rocne - a to je preci odberatel, pro >ktereho se uz vyplati vodu v siti trochu upravit - nebo ne?) Chces mi rict ,ze prazdroj na vareni piva odebira vodu z vodovodniho radu?Nebo naopak,ze plzenaci maji v kohoutkach tak dobrou vodu, ze se z ni da varit pivo?(a dobry caj -abych nebyl offtopic) to je tedy velmi zavidenihodne,i kdyz ja mam v kohoutku take dobrou vodu,ale je to spise "dortmunska" Pekny den Pavel >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Feb 11 07:29:00 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA27064; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 07:29:00 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA27061 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 07:28:54 +0100 Received: from gate.hob.cz ([194.108.46.250]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA07798 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 07:28:54 +0100 (MET) Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by gate.hob.cz (8.8.2/8.8.2) id HAA18422 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 07:27:28 +0100 Received: from primus.hob.cz(172.21.1.16) by gate.hob.cz via smap (V2.1) id xma018416; Thu, 11 Feb 99 07:27:15 +0100 Received: by primus.hob.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <11RBVHJ1>; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 07:30:06 +0100 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?H=E1jek_Ctirad?= To: "'caj@dione.zcu.cz'" Subject: Caj: Vsechny caje Ciny Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 07:30:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Tak diky Matymu i ja jsem se stal stastnym vlastnikem knihy Vsechny caje Ciny. Zatim jsem jen listoval, ale dovolte mi jeden postreh. Z knihy je patrno komu je urcena, - zacina blahodarnym vlivem caje na nase zdravi a v podstate tak i pokracuje. Jiz predmluva nam vymluvi udajne rozsireny omyl o skodlivosti caje... No nic, nasinec si to prebere. Take me prekvapilo, ze v knize nejsou zmineny Draci oci. Cetli jste o tomto caji neco? Mozna je to jen exportni specialitka... Ctirad >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Feb 11 07:54:44 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA27106; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 07:54:44 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA27103 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 07:54:38 +0100 Received: from inet-gw.lapeco.cz (resl-gw.dnet.cz [194.108.43.238]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA08990 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 07:54:35 +0100 (MET) Received: from default (asy2.lapeco.cz [192.168.100.12]) by inet-gw.lapeco.cz (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA30346 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 07:53:01 +0100 Message-ID: <000801be558b$8f554da0$0c64a8c0@default> From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?VG9t4ZogTWFjaA==?=" To: "Cajova konference" Subject: Caj: Nevite nekdo o kurzech cajoveho obradu Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 07:54:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE5593.C41645A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Toto je zpráva ve formátu MIME obsahující několik částí. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE5593.C41645A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Zdravim vsechny, rad bych se zeptal a poprosil, aby mi nekdo poradil. Mam v planu = studovat cajovy obrad a vim, ze exeistuji asi 3 mesicni kurzy v = nemecku. Chtel bych se zeptat, zda nekdo nevi kontakt na jejich = organizatora a neco vice o nich.=20 Diky moc S pozdravem Tomas ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE5593.C41645A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Zdravim vsechny,
rad bych se zeptal a poprosil, aby = mi nekdo=20 poradil. Mam v planu studovat cajovy obrad a vim, ze exeistuji asi = 3 =20 mesicni kurzy v nemecku. Chtel bych se zeptat, zda nekdo nevi kontakt na = jejich=20 organizatora a neco vice o nich.
Diky moc
S pozdravem = Tomas
------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE5593.C41645A0-- >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Feb 11 09:12:23 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA27397; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:12:23 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA27394 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:12:23 +0100 From: SEVEROVA@gytool.cz Received: from power.ol.cesnet.cz ([194.212.160.147]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA11634 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:12:21 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailer.gytool.cz ([194.212.37.22]) by power.ol.cesnet.cz (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id JAA13888 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:00:21 +0100 (NFT) Received: from GH-2/SpoolDir by mailer.gytool.cz (Mercury 1.44); 11 Feb 99 09:12:20 MET +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by GH-2 (Mercury 1.44); 11 Feb 99 09:12:15 MET +0100 Organization: Gymnazium v Olomouci-Hejcine, CZ To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:12:12 MET +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Caj: Vsechny caje Ciny X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.40 Message-ID: <513FB402DF@mailer.gytool.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Cetla jsem ted dopis, ze knihaVsechny caje Ciny hned na zacatku popira skodlivost caje. A ona nejaka skodlivost je???????? SASA >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Feb 11 09:35:58 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA27492; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:35:58 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA27489 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:35:58 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA12342 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:35:56 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA31151 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:35:56 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 11 Feb 99 09:35:55 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 11 Feb 99 09:35:46 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:35:40 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Vsechny caje Ciny X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Cetla jsem ted dopis, ze knihaVsechny caje Ciny hned na zacatku > popira skodlivost caje. A ona nejaka skodlivost je???????? SASA Vseho moc vzdycky skodi a u caje to plati obzvlast. Ale co znamena "vseho moc"? To uz je vec individualni. Ja treba uz si ted japonske zelene caje davam jen jako svatecni lahudku. Sveho casu jsem je pil denne, az jsem zacal citi, jak me to zacina stahovat (a nemyslim ted v ustech). A tak prechazim na oolongy, caje prazene, cerne apod. O nezadoucich ucincich pise kazda slusnejsi kniha na dane tema. Ale myslim, ze se nemas ceho bat. To se tyka opravdu jen velmi velmi casteho piti. Treba kdyby profesionalni ochutnavaci caju je nevyplivavali, ale opravdu pili ... vem si, kolik jich za den ochutnaji. Pavel ... a hura do caje. mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Feb 11 10:49:44 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA27742; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:49:44 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA27739 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:49:43 +0100 From: SEVEROVA@gytool.cz Received: from power.ol.cesnet.cz ([194.212.160.147]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA15384 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:49:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailer.gytool.cz ([194.212.37.22]) by power.ol.cesnet.cz (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id KAA23594 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:37:42 +0100 (NFT) Received: from GH-2/SpoolDir by mailer.gytool.cz (Mercury 1.44); 11 Feb 99 10:49:42 MET +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by GH-2 (Mercury 1.44); 11 Feb 99 10:49:34 MET +0100 Organization: Gymnazium v Olomouci-Hejcine, CZ To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:49:29 MET +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Caj: Vsechny caje Ciny X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.40 Message-ID: <52DF037A0D@mailer.gytool.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Teda ja jsem cetla, ze naopak denni davka 2-3 salku cerneho caje pusobi jako prevence proti parodontu, ma vliv i na rakovinu nejake casti zazivani a podobne. Rozhodne jsem necetla, ze by skodil. Beru samozrejme bezneho pijaka caje. Ja piju caj pouze kdyz mam pohodu. A hodne si vybiram, nemusim vsechno. Docela si dam i "necaje". SASA >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Feb 11 11:03:19 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA27812; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:03:19 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA27809 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:03:18 +0100 Received: from server.ica.cz (IDENT:root@[195.47.13.11]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA16172 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:02:36 +0100 (MET) Received: from brn.pvt.cz (com.ica.cz [195.47.13.10]) by server.ica.cz (8.9.2/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA14688 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:01:35 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <36C2AA3B.FE1DBD37@brn.pvt.cz> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:00:27 +0100 From: Petr Buchmaier X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: cs MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Nova kniha o zelenem caji References: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A3901197118@PUEX1C1> <36C0B101.FBC7BCB5@asysijd.cz> <36C14058.773FBA0D@brn.pvt.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Petr Buchmaier wrote: > > Dobry den > > vcera jsem si koupil novou knihu o zelenem caji. Posilam nejake zakladni > informace: > Na titulni strane najdete japonskou? gejsu nabizejici salek caje. Blizsi > informace vcetne obalky se do konce tydne objevi na serveru http://www.caje.cz Tak uz je na webu recenze adresa je: http://www.caje.cz/cteni/japonskyzelenycaj.htm pristi tyden snad o neco vice Cetli jste knihu Umeni japonskych zahrad ? ja si ji koupil na vanoce a pekne se v ni listuje hledam grafika pro server www.caje.cz platba v naturaliich (sacek caje za obrazek) Motto: klikejte na banery at se cajove stranky toci :-)) >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Feb 11 11:49:33 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA28061; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:49:33 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA28058 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:49:33 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA18137 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:49:32 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA14959 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:49:33 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 11 Feb 99 11:49:32 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 11 Feb 99 11:49:27 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:49:21 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Skodi ci neskodi X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Teda ja jsem cetla, ze naopak denni davka 2-3 salku cerneho caje > pusobi jako prevence proti parodontu, ma vliv i na rakovinu nejake > casti zazivani a podobne. Rozhodne jsem necetla, ze by skodil. Beru > samozrejme bezneho pijaka caje. Ja piju caj pouze kdyz mam pohodu. A > hodne si vybiram, nemusim vsechno. Docela si dam i "necaje". SASA Ale no vzdyt ano. Proto jsem psal velmi velke mnozstvi. V knihach se tohle mnozstvi vice mene pise a tusim ze na salky (jaka merna jednotka je jednen salek, ze?) je to asi 30 za den. Coz uz je dost i na jeden den. A ted si vem, ze by jsi to vypila denne. A tak je caj v "beznem" pouziti skvela vec nejen na zdravi, ale opet ... vseho MOC (a MOC) skodi a caj neni vyjimkou. Ortodoxni makrobiotici vedi, proc piji hlavne caje prazene nebo necaje. Jejich organismus uz je tak citlivy, ze silny cerny caj uz pro ne neco znamena (stejne jako zeleny). Ale vubec se tim netrap, do sfery "skodlivosti" caje by jsi se dlouho musela propijet. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Feb 11 12:57:52 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA28301; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 12:57:52 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA28298 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 12:57:51 +0100 Received: from ns-pils.pilsner-urquell.cz (ns-pils.pilsner-urquell.cz [193.85.100.5]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA21451 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 12:57:48 +0100 (MET) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns-pils.pilsner-urquell.cz (8.9.0/8.8.5) with UUCP id NAA18546 for caj@dione.zcu.cz; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 13:19:26 +0100 (MET) Received: from plzen11.pilsner-urquell.cz (plzen11.pilsner-urquell.cz [172.20.1.11]) by ns1.pilsner-urquell.cz (8.9.0/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA16070 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 13:40:27 +0100 (CET) Received: by plzen11.pilsner-urquell.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 12:45:56 +0100 Message-ID: From: "Fousek Martin Ing." To: "'caj@dione.zcu.cz'" Subject: RE: Caj: Vodovodni voda z vodovodu Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 12:45:50 +0100 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > Moje rec, jako zamestnanec a vyznavac Plzenskeho Prazdroje a > >zaroven cajomilec mohu jen potvrdit - voda pro vareni piva, snad mi > >odpustite tuto odbocku od caje, se deli na mekkou plzenskou,mirne > tvrdou > >mnichovskou a velmi tvrdou dortmunskou. Proto je voda v plzenske > >vodovodni siti zrejme mekci, nez voda v jinych mestech (vzdyt > spotreba > >vody na vareni piva je 15 hl na jeden uvareny hl a Plzensky Prazdroj > >tech hektolitru uvari 5 milionu rocne - a to je preci odberatel, pro > >ktereho se uz vyplati vodu v siti trochu upravit - nebo ne?) > > > Chces mi rict ,ze prazdroj na vareni piva odebira vodu z vodovodniho > radu?Nebo naopak,ze plzenaci maji v kohoutkach tak dobrou vodu, > ze se z ni da varit pivo?(a dobry caj -abych nebyl offtopic) > to je tedy velmi zavidenihodne,i kdyz ja mam v kohoutku > take dobrou vodu,ale je to spise "dortmunska" > > Pekny den Pavel > Ahojte, Prazdroj ma sice svou studnu, ale ta by velmi rychle vyschla, kdyby se z ni mel uvarit vsechen ten Urquell, Gambrinus a Primus, co ho Cesi a nejen oni vypijou, takze nezbiva nez odebirat vodu z vodarny. A vysledkem toho vseho je, ze plzenaci mohou varit dobry caj primo z kohoutku a taky mozna to, ze vodovodni trubky jsou rezave drive nez v jinych mestech, ale to jsou jen me dohady. Ahoj Martin >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Feb 11 13:03:30 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA28322; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 13:03:30 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA28319 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 13:03:29 +0100 From: SEVEROVA@gytool.cz Received: from power.ol.cesnet.cz ([194.212.160.147]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA21666 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 13:03:27 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailer.gytool.cz ([194.212.37.22]) by power.ol.cesnet.cz (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id MAA19374 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 12:51:26 +0100 (NFT) Received: from GH-2/SpoolDir by mailer.gytool.cz (Mercury 1.44); 11 Feb 99 13:03:25 MET +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by GH-2 (Mercury 1.44); 11 Feb 99 13:03:14 MET +0100 Organization: Gymnazium v Olomouci-Hejcine, CZ To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 13:03:09 MET +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Caj: koreni X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.40 Message-ID: <5519686B38@mailer.gytool.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Mozna to sem moc nepatri, ale kdysi jsem v jedne cajovne kupovala i koreni do jidla (konkretne Tandoori Massala), cajovna neni a koreni zakoupene v Praze ve spec. prodejne neni nic moc. Spis nic jak moc. A ja ho davam snad vsude, krome sladkych jidel. Nevi nekdo neco o tomto koreni dovazene ale opravdu ze zeme puvodu? SASA >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Feb 11 17:24:18 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA29659; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:24:18 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA29656 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:24:17 +0100 Received: from ns1.ipnet.cz (ns1.ipnet.cz [212.20.64.2]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA01652 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:24:17 +0100 (MET) Received: from pent-200 (a3r1-pribram.ipnet.cz [212.20.68.56]) by ns1.ipnet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA01482 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:24:05 +0100 Message-ID: <001d01be55da$361c2c00$384414d4@pent-200> From: "BENT" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Nova kniha o zelenem caji Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:17:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Cetl jsem recenzi a zjistuji, ze kniha opet obsahuje tentokrat "devatero" spravne pripravy. Uz se tesim az se zredukuje na "jednero" a to: "Udelejte caj tak aby Vam chutnal" Nevi jaka pouzivate sitka, ale moje zkusenost je nasledovna. "Bambusova sitka", presto, ze je peclive vyplachuji a pouzivam jich vicero, velmi rychle nacichnou cajem a po jiste dobe vydavaji pri prelevani horkym cajem specificky zapach, ktery nema s pouzitym druhem caje nic spolecneho. Menit sitko po par zaliti se mi zda dost velkym luxusem. Papir nepouzivam, spotreboval bych ho velmi mnoho. Umelohmotove sitko se mi osobne jevi jako nejlepsi. Je naprosto inertni, obvzvlaste pokud ho pouzivate dele. Problem je v tom, ze jedna z mych konvicek vyzaduje sitko "bambusoveho" tvaru, ktere jsem v umele hmote jeste nevidel. Takze pouzivam dle potreby oboje. S prateskym pozdravem Michael P.S. specifickym problemem bambusovych sitek je, ze naproti drzatku nema "zachytku", ktera by zabranila pripadnemu spadnuti do konvicky pokud je otvor prilis siroky. >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Feb 11 22:28:03 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA30779; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 22:28:03 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA30776 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 22:28:02 +0100 Received: from conan.asysijd.cz (mailexim@server.asysijd.cz [195.75.66.161]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA07657 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 22:28:01 +0100 (MET) Received: from kol-dial11.asysijd.cz (asysijd.cz) [195.75.66.21] by conan.asysijd.cz with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1 (Debian)) id 10B3eS-0004Zo-00; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 22:28:01 +0100 Message-ID: <36C349D0.85735116@asysijd.cz> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 22:21:21 +0100 From: Jan Bourek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: - Cajovy Dychanek - Subject: Caj: Skola cajoveho obradu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Bore da, jak jsem byl v ROXY na te japonske noci, tak ten pan co obrad predvadel rikal, ze v Praze je nejaka skola a on je odtamtud. Pan se jmenoval snad Herman (ale nevim to jiste). Kdyztak zkus @ do ROXY a poptat se jich na toho pana (nebo kontakt na nej). Taky mam pocit, ze o skole cajoveho obradu se v konferenci uz psalo sand pred 1 - 2 mesici => neboj se, on se urcite nekdo ozve, kdo o tom vi vic. *JB* >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Feb 12 08:20:11 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA31944; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:20:11 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA31941 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:20:08 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA14760 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:20:07 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA14424 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:20:08 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 12 Feb 99 08:20:06 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 12 Feb 99 08:19:38 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:19:31 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Nova kniha o zelenem caji X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Cetl jsem recenzi a zjistuji, ze kniha opet obsahuje > tentokrat "devatero" spravne pripravy. Uz se tesim > az se zredukuje na "jednero" a to: > "Udelejte caj tak aby Vam chutnal" Rekl bych, ze to bude vrchol cajove kultury v Cechach ... a po kazdem vrcholu vetsinou nasleduje pad ... a tak at radeji povidaji a desateruji a devateruji ... on si na to pak stejne kazdy dojde sam. Skoda jen je, ze pak to vetsinou bude tlacit ostatnim, jako ze to je tak spravne a universalne. > Nevi jaka pouzivate sitka, ale moje zkusenost je nasledovna. > "Bambusova sitka", presto, ze je peclive vyplachuji a pouzivam > jich vicero, velmi rychle nacichnou cajem a po jiste > dobe vydavaji pri prelevani horkym cajem specificky zapach, > ktery nema s pouzitym druhem caje nic spolecneho. Aha...a vidis, ja si k sitku pricuchavam jako fetak...citim z nej pri pouzivani na zelene caje krasnou travovou vuni :-) Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Feb 12 17:15:19 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA00095; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 17:15:19 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from eros.zcu.cz (eros.zcu.cz [147.228.1.10]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA00092 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 17:15:18 +0100 Received: from adis.cesnet.cz (adis.cesnet.cz [194.50.6.3]) by eros.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA05394 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 17:15:17 +0100 Received: from gego.cz (ns.gego.cz [195.22.48.254]) by adis.cesnet.cz (8.8.8/CESNET) with ESMTP id NAA11179 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:08:10 +0100 (MET) Received: from WinProxy.anywhere (ppp48.cc.terminal.cz [195.70.133.48]) by gego.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA02840 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 12:59:29 +0100 Received: from 192.168.1.2 by 192.168.1.1 (WinProxy); Fri, 12 Feb 1999 12:58:02 +0100 Message-ID: <002301be567e$e28f1b10$0201a8c0@cajoch.cajovna> From: "=?iso-8859-2?B?SmFuIE38bGxlcg==?=" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Nova kniha o zelenem caji Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 12:57:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Technicka poznamka: vyzkousej jednorazove filtry z bezchloroveho papiru (jsou k mani v cajovnach). Pro bezne pouzivani se mi dle mych zkusenosti jevi jako velmi dobre reseni. Cajovy list v nich ma potrebny prostor k rozvinuti (o pevnych filtrech se to rici neda) a chutove jsou zcela inertni. Velmi dulezité je u nich ovsem prolevani caje typu konvicka - miska - konvicka. A kdyz si k nim poridis drzak (poeticky filterhalter), mas i potrebnou "zachytku". Jan -----Původní zpráva----- Od: BENT Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz Datum: 11. února 1999 17:28 Předmět: Re: Caj: Nova kniha o zelenem caji >Cetl jsem recenzi a zjistuji, ze kniha opet obsahuje >tentokrat "devatero" spravne pripravy. Uz se tesim >az se zredukuje na "jednero" a to: >"Udelejte caj tak aby Vam chutnal" >Nevi jaka pouzivate sitka, ale moje zkusenost je nasledovna. >"Bambusova sitka", presto, ze je peclive vyplachuji a pouzivam >jich vicero, velmi rychle nacichnou cajem a po jiste >dobe vydavaji pri prelevani horkym cajem specificky zapach, >ktery nema s pouzitym druhem caje nic spolecneho. >Menit sitko po par zaliti se mi zda dost velkym luxusem. >Papir nepouzivam, spotreboval bych ho velmi mnoho. >Umelohmotove sitko se mi osobne jevi jako nejlepsi. >Je naprosto inertni, obvzvlaste pokud ho pouzivate dele. >Problem je v tom, ze jedna z mych konvicek vyzaduje sitko >"bambusoveho" tvaru, ktere jsem v umele hmote jeste nevidel. >Takze pouzivam dle potreby oboje. >S prateskym pozdravem Michael > >P.S. specifickym problemem bambusovych sitek je, ze naproti >drzatku nema "zachytku", ktera by zabranila pripadnemu >spadnuti do konvicky pokud je otvor prilis siroky. > >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Feb 15 08:44:44 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA06195; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 08:44:44 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA06191 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 08:44:42 +0100 From: SEVEROVA@gytool.cz Received: from power.ol.cesnet.cz ([194.212.160.147]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA03526 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 08:37:05 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailer.gytool.cz ([194.212.37.22]) by power.ol.cesnet.cz (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id IAA15440 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 08:24:57 +0100 (NFT) Received: from GH-2/SpoolDir by mailer.gytool.cz (Mercury 1.44); 15 Feb 99 08:37:04 MET +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by GH-2 (Mercury 1.44); 15 Feb 99 08:36:36 MET +0100 Organization: Gymnazium v Olomouci-Hejcine, CZ To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 08:36:35 MET +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Caj: Nova kniha o zelenem caji X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.40 Message-ID: <3CE6EE5432@mailer.gytool.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ja pouzivam na caj umelohmotove sutko, ktere je jen o neco uzsi nez salek, takze se do nej vede pohodlne a prito listky maji prosto. No a kdyz uz neni jina moznost, dam caj primo do salku, necham udelat a pak precedim i treba pres maly cedak, protoze v tomto momente je to uz jedno. Caj je hotovy. SASA >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Feb 15 09:13:32 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA06458; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 09:13:32 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA06455 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 09:13:31 +0100 Received: from eryx2.zcu.cz (eryx2.zcu.cz [147.228.206.13]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA04788 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 09:13:31 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (jurista@localhost) by eryx2.zcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA10011 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 09:13:30 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: eryx2.zcu.cz: jurista owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 09:13:30 +0100 (MET) From: Demeter Jurista X-Sender: jurista@eryx2.zcu.cz To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Bambusova sitka In-Reply-To: <001d01be55da$361c2c00$384414d4@pent-200> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ahojky > P.S. specifickym problemem bambusovych sitek je, ze naproti > drzatku nema "zachytku", ktera by zabranila pripadnemu > spadnuti do konvicky pokud je otvor prilis siroky. Tento problem jsem uz take resil, myslim, ze to neci nic objevneho, ale na protejsi stranu k drzatku jsem dal dve paratka (sirky) a sitko ted bajecne drzi. Jinak si myslim, ze je dulezite koupit bambusove sitko s tvrdou obrubou (to jako s tou pulkou vetve)... Mita DJ >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Feb 15 09:16:15 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA06490; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 09:16:15 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA06487 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 09:16:14 +0100 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA04977 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 09:16:13 +0100 (MET) Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (0@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA10170 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 09:16:12 +0100 (MET) Received: from oreias18 (oreias18.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.69]) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA12158 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 09:16:13 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (xmacha@localhost) by oreias18 (SMI-8.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA01020 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 09:16:11 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: oreias18.fi.muni.cz: xmacha owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 09:16:11 +0100 (MET) From: Jakub Macha To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Nova kniha o zelenem caji In-Reply-To: <3CE6EE5432@mailer.gytool.cz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Podle me je nejlepsi keramicke sitko s mensimi dirkami. Pouzivam obcas i bambusove sitko, ale pak je ten bambus tak citit, ze je to caj bambusovy a ne zeleny. --jakub On Mon, 15 Feb 1999 SEVEROVA@gytool.cz wrote: > Ja pouzivam na caj umelohmotove sutko, ktere je jen o neco uzsi nez > salek, takze se do nej vede pohodlne a prito listky maji prosto. > No a kdyz uz neni jina moznost, dam caj primo do salku, necham udelat > a pak precedim i treba pres maly cedak, protoze v tomto momente je to > uz jedno. Caj je hotovy. SASA > >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Feb 15 11:30:25 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA06969; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:30:25 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA06966 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:30:24 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA09201 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:56:20 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA32197 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:56:20 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 15 Feb 99 10:56:19 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 15 Feb 99 10:55:57 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:55:54 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Sitka X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <1430CDE40C1@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Podle me je nejlepsi keramicke sitko s mensimi dirkami. Pouzivam obcas i > bambusove sitko, ale pak je ten bambus tak citit, ze je to caj bambusovy > a ne zeleny. > > > Ja pouzivam na caj umelohmotove sutko, ktere je jen o neco uzsi nez > > salek, takze se do nej vede pohodlne a prito listky maji prosto. > > No a kdyz uz neni jina moznost, dam caj primo do salku, necham udelat > > a pak precedim i treba pres maly cedak, protoze v tomto momente je to > > uz jedno. Caj je hotovy. SASA Jak to ty caje delate, ze mate takove trable? Proste v jedne konvici caj vylouhuji (mam sklenenou, ale to uz jak kdo chce) a pak ho pres sitko jen preleju do cajove konvicky. Sitko drzim v ruce, takze zadny hacek nepotrebuji a caj jen proleju, takze bambus rozhodne citit neni. Jak vy to delate s vicenalevovymi caji? To si neumim predstavit :-) Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Feb 15 11:59:14 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA07107; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:59:14 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA07103 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:59:13 +0100 Received: from gate.hob.cz ([194.108.46.250]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA11482 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:51:34 +0100 (MET) Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by gate.hob.cz (8.8.2/8.8.2) id LAA28545 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:51:33 +0100 Received: from primus.hob.cz(172.21.1.16) by gate.hob.cz via smap (V2.1) id xma028538; Mon, 15 Feb 99 11:51:12 +0100 Received: by primus.hob.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <11RBV2HY>; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:51:11 +0100 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?H=E1jek_Ctirad?= To: "'caj@dione.zcu.cz'" Subject: RE: Caj: Sitka Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:51:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Presna tak. Caj pripravuji klasicky s pomoci tri konvy. V jedne ohrivam vodu, v druhe (sklenene) louhuji a do treti, servirovaci konve, caj preleji pres sitko. Ctirad > Jak to ty caje delate, ze mate takove trable? Proste v jedne konvici caj > > vylouhuji (mam sklenenou, ale to uz jak kdo chce) a pak ho pres sitko jen > preleju do cajove konvicky. Sitko drzim v ruce, takze zadny hacek > nepotrebuji a caj jen proleju, takze bambus rozhodne citit neni. Jak vy to > > delate s vicenalevovymi caji? To si neumim predstavit :-) > Pavel > > mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz > http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek > >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Feb 15 12:45:26 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA07289; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:45:26 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA07284 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:45:25 +0100 From: LToman@zivpo.cz Received: from zp999a.zivpo.cz (ms.zivpo.cz [195.146.106.228]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA13192 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:33:27 +0100 (MET) Received: by ms.zivpo.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <1ZQKJSXK>; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:33:26 +0100 Message-ID: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A3901197127@PUEX1C1> To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: RE: Caj: Sitka Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:33:14 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Presna tak. Caj pripravuji klasicky s pomoci tri konvy. > V jedne ohrivam vodu, v druhe (sklenene) louhuji a do treti, > servirovaci > konve, > caj preleji pres sitko. > > Ctirad Tento system pouzivam taky. Ocumel jsem ho v nasi Dobry cajovne. Neni pak problem s vicenalevovymi caji, sitko se vzdy akorat vyklepne zpet do te louhovaci konvice (taky mam sklenenou. Alespon je pak videt barva caje a lze odhadnou kdy caj je hotov i jinak, nez jen dle stopek) Jinak sitko pouzivam obycejne umelohmotne. A uplne staci. Bambusove si zatim porizovat nehodlam. Galenius >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Feb 15 14:00:32 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA07531; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:00:32 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA07528 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:00:31 +0100 Received: from kanec.linux (kanec.plemdat.czn.cz [194.213.228.200]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA15952 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:40:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from milan (milan.plemdat.czn.cz [223.45.6.152]) by kanec.linux (8.8.5/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id NAA00576 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:39:16 +0100 Message-ID: <003001be58e0$4e551530$98062ddf@milan> From: "=?iso-8859-2?Q?Milan_=C8ervenka?=" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Sitka Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:40:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Nazdar brouci, ja se tem diletantum taky divim jak to mohou louhovat v sitku. Takove barbarstvi! Zastrelit je. To je sranda. Musim se totiz trochu zastat jak bambusu, tak tech co si louhujou caj v sitku. Takze bambus. Nad bambus neni, este jsem v celym stvoreni nenasel vymyslenejsi rostlinu. Druhu bambusu je hafo a jejich vyuziti jeste vetsi hafo. Ted k machalkum, tedy tem co caj uzavrou do bambusove, plastove ci hlinene klece a po vzoru inkvizice jej trestaji ponorenim do vody, ke vsemu horky. Ja timto zpusobem trestam caje ktere jsou BOP (kterymi ale "spravny" cajar opovrhuje) jen s tim rozdilem, ze pouzivam bud bavlnenou puncosku nebo nebelene bunicinove filtry dostatecne velikosti. Cedit tyhle caje prez bambus neni dobry, plyvu pak kolem sebe cajinky a mam zkazenej pozitek. K bavlnenymu filtru musim uvest, ze me zklamal, neb dostat z nej vylouhovany caj v mokrem stavu je nadlidska a neuspesna namaha. Jinak naprosto souhlasim se systemem dvou konvicek u caju zelenych. Z hlineny piju, v SIMAXOVE sklenene (s vickem) ceka treba lunting na dalsi nalev. Wulongy delam kungfu stylem, takze pouzivam jenom jednu isingovou konvicku. V Kristu Milan P.S. Co ste provedli Saskovi, dlouho se neozval. Nevdechnul rolnicky? > >Presna tak. Caj pripravuji klasicky s pomoci tri konvy. >V jedne ohrivam vodu, v druhe (sklenene) louhuji a do treti, servirovaci >konve, >caj preleji pres sitko. > >Ctirad > >> Jak to ty caje delate, ze mate takove trable? Proste v jedne konvici caj >> >> vylouhuji (mam sklenenou, ale to uz jak kdo chce) a pak ho pres sitko jen >> preleju do cajove konvicky. Sitko drzim v ruce, takze zadny hacek >> nepotrebuji a caj jen proleju, takze bambus rozhodne citit neni. Jak vy to >> >> delate s vicenalevovymi caji? To si neumim predstavit :-) >> Pavel >> >> mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz >> http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >> >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Feb 15 14:00:25 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA07527; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:00:25 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA07524 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:00:24 +0100 From: SEVEROVA@gytool.cz Received: from power.ol.cesnet.cz ([194.212.160.147]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA16256 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:49:30 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailer.gytool.cz ([194.212.37.22]) by power.ol.cesnet.cz (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id NAA26420 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:37:18 +0100 (NFT) Received: from GH-2/SpoolDir by mailer.gytool.cz (Mercury 1.44); 15 Feb 99 13:49:28 MET +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by GH-2 (Mercury 1.44); 15 Feb 99 11:50:24 MET +0100 Organization: Gymnazium v Olomouci-Hejcine, CZ To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:50:14 MET +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Caj: Sitka X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.40 Message-ID: <4021ED368B@mailer.gytool.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Tak jak ti zustane caj ve sklenene konvici tak zustane i v sitku, ne? U tech vicenalevovych ho pak pouziji znouvu, a jinych jde pryc. Jasne, ne? SASA >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Feb 15 14:21:45 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA07722; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:21:45 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA07718 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:21:45 +0100 From: LToman@zivpo.cz Received: from zp999a.zivpo.cz (ms.zivpo.cz [195.146.106.228]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA17698 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:20:55 +0100 (MET) Received: by ms.zivpo.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <1ZQKJSZY>; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:20:37 +0100 Message-ID: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A390119712A@PUEX1C1> To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: RE: Caj: Sitka Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:20:35 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Tak jak ti zustane caj ve sklenene konvici tak zustane i v sitku, ne? > U tech vicenalevovych ho pak pouziji znouvu, a jinych jde pryc. > Jasne, ne? > SASA Pouzit znovu to muzes. O to nejde. Ale pak at si ten, kdo to takto dela, nestezuje, ze mu jeho sitko velice rychle nacichne cajem. Galenius >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Feb 15 14:22:51 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA07747; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:22:51 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA07744 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:22:50 +0100 Received: from ns.felk.cvut.cz (ns.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.9]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA17754 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:22:48 +0100 (MET) Received: from sun (sun.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.32]) by ns.felk.cvut.cz (8.9.2/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA17453 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:22:47 +0100 (MET) Received: from sun45.felk.cvut.cz by sun (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07327; Mon, 15 Feb 99 14:22:46 +0100 Received: by sun45.felk.cvut.cz (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01134; Mon, 15 Feb 99 14:22:46 +0100 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:22:45 +0100 (MET) From: Tregner Vaclav student 6_98_99 k336 X-Sender: xtregner@sun45 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Sitka In-Reply-To: <1430CDE40C1@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ja to delam uplne stejne, ale pred casem coby cajovy zacatecnik jsem v bambusovem sitku caj louhoval. Vysledek mel k caji hodne daleko (byl to spis bambusovy bujon) a tak jsem sitko porad vyvarel a vyvarel ale porad to byla jen bambusova polivka. Uz jsem chtel sitko skoro reklamovat, ale pak jsem zjistil, ze se v sitku caj nesmi louhovat, ale jenom precedit. Od te doby jsem se sitkem plne spokojen a bambusove polivky si uz nedelam :) Vasek > Jak to ty caje delate, ze mate takove trable? Proste v jedne konvici caj > vylouhuji (mam sklenenou, ale to uz jak kdo chce) a pak ho pres sitko jen > preleju do cajove konvicky. Sitko drzim v ruce, takze zadny hacek > nepotrebuji a caj jen proleju, takze bambus rozhodne citit neni. Jak vy to > delate s vicenalevovymi caji? To si neumim predstavit :-) > Pavel > > mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz > http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek > > >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Feb 15 14:24:22 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA07789; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:24:22 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA07786 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:24:21 +0100 From: LToman@zivpo.cz Received: from zp999a.zivpo.cz (ms.zivpo.cz [195.146.106.228]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA17833 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:24:20 +0100 (MET) Received: by ms.zivpo.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <1ZQKJS5G>; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:24:18 +0100 Message-ID: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A390119712B@PUEX1C1> To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: RE: Caj: Sitka Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:24:14 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Ted k machalkum, tedy tem co caj uzavrou do bambusove, > plastove ci hlinene > klece a po vzoru inkvizice jej trestaji ponorenim do vody, ke > vsemu horky. Musim se priznat, ze toto taky obcas delam. Kazdej den v praci, kdy ma clovek pouze hrnek, varnou konvici (ve ktery louhovat nemuze, kvuli kolegum) a louhovaci pytlik z byvale DDR (takove umelohmotne kolecko, ze ktereho vysi necojakolatkovy vacek. Caj v tom volne plave, je mozne ho promichavat a pak snadno vyjmout a vacek vyplachnout.) Galenius >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Feb 15 14:28:26 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA07845; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:28:26 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA07841 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:28:25 +0100 Received: from kiv.zcu.cz (ur404p01-rek.rek.zcu.cz [147.228.71.108]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA17786 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:27:53 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <36C820DA.9F4273A0@kiv.zcu.cz> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:27:54 +0100 From: Pavel Baxa Organization: ZCU Plzen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: cs,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Sitka References: <003001be58e0$4e551530$98062ddf@milan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz BREJ DEN LIDICKY! No ja zasnu. Ta tvrda slova! Ta vnitrni sila spojena s moudrosti! Jak lehce vyslovujete Pravdu! Kdo nesouhlasi s moji Pravdou, je hoden odsouzeni... Lidi neblbnete! Myslite, ze se neda diskutovat bez osocovani, argumentovat bez hadky a radit bez povysenosti? Milan Červenka wrote: > > Ted k machalkum, tedy tem co caj uzavrou do bambusove, plastove ci hlinene > klece a po vzoru inkvizice jej trestaji ponorenim do vody, ke vsemu horky. > Ja timto zpusobem trestam caje ktere jsou BOP (kterymi ale "spravny" cajar > opovrhuje) Ten "spravny cajar" - to znamena snob? Neco jako: "Teda ja bych se BOP nenapil, dycinky jenom cely lupeni, jinac to u me neni caj." > jen s tim rozdilem, ze pouzivam bud bavlnenou puncosku nebo > nebelene bunicinove filtry dostatecne velikosti. Cedit tyhle caje prez > bambus neni dobry, plyvu pak kolem sebe cajinky a mam zkazenej pozitek. S tim souhlasim. Bambusove sitko ma vetsi otvory. Takze kdyz "trestas" ty BOP caje, zakonite se ti msti. > P.S. Co ste provedli Saskovi, dlouho se neozval. Nevdechnul rolnicky? Sasek se zadusil vlastnim vtipem a odesel do vecnych lovist. Jinymi slovy odhlasil se. Pavel B. >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Feb 15 18:29:29 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA08852; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:29:29 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA08847 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:29:28 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA20090 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:30:44 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA15984 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:30:44 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 15 Feb 99 15:30:45 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 15 Feb 99 15:30:25 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:30:16 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Sitka X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <1479FF509EB@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > No ja zasnu. Ta tvrda slova! Ta vnitrni sila spojena s moudrosti! > Jak lehce vyslovujete Pravdu! Kdo nesouhlasi s moji Pravdou, je > hoden odsouzeni... Lidi neblbnete! Myslite, ze se neda diskutovat > bez osocovani, argumentovat bez hadky a radit bez povysenosti? > > Milan Cervenka wrote: > > > > Ted k machalkum, tedy tem co caj uzavrou do bambusove, plastove ci hlinene > > klece a po vzoru inkvizice jej trestaji ponorenim do vody, ke vsemu horky. > > Ja timto zpusobem trestam caje ktere jsou BOP (kterymi ale "spravny" cajar > > opovrhuje) > > Ten "spravny cajar" - to znamena snob? Neco jako: "Teda ja bych se BOP > nenapil, > dycinky jenom cely lupeni, jinac to u me neni caj." Milan Cervenka se asi ozve sam, nicmene mi to neda. Jeho reakce mi prijde vice nezli dost jasne pratelska a vubec ne jako neco o osocovani atd. atd....viz vyse. To, ze dal "spravny cajar" do uvozovek mi prijde take jako jasne gesto dobre vule...nebo jak to nazvat. Zkratka rozpravy o sitku mi prisly poklidne a pratelske az do reakce na jeho dopis. Ten z nich udelal ustepacne hadani trubcu o to, kdo je chytrejsi. Coz se mi nechce zdat. Asi by jsme se meli naucit na internetu cist mezi radky, jinak tu bude jeste mnoho nepochopenych reakci. Zatim se to holt musi resit ruznymi znackami o usmev apod. Pro jistotu...to vse je mineno vazne, ani ne ironicky, ani ne s usmevem. > > P.S. Co ste provedli Saskovi, dlouho se neozval. Nevdechnul rolnicky? > Sasek se zadusil vlastnim vtipem a odesel do vecnych lovist. Jinymi > slovy odhlasil se. Odchod Saska je pro konferenci skoda, protoze nam toho mohl hodne rict (velmi dobre ho dlouha leta znam a sam jsem ho sem pozval). Zel z prave vyse uvedenych duvodu to zabalil ... s usmevem a bez zlych emoci ... jak je jeho zvykem. A ne aby nekdo rikal, ze je to off-topic...nebo jak se to... Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Feb 15 18:29:27 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA08841; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:29:27 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA08831 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:29:22 +0100 Received: from kanec.linux (kanec.plemdat.czn.cz [194.213.228.200]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA22251 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:25:44 +0100 (MET) Received: from milan (milan.plemdat.czn.cz [223.45.6.152]) by kanec.linux (8.8.5/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id QAA01493 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:25:03 +0100 Message-ID: <006001be58f7$77f5dac0$98062ddf@milan> From: "=?iso-8859-2?Q?Milan_=C8ervenka?=" To: Subject: Caj: BAMBUSOVA POLIVKA Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:25:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Jo ted sem si vzpomnel, pratele, mluvilo se tady o bambusovy prichuti caje, ze? V DC prodavaj ccha ktery tenke rucky delnic z PRC, RPC, CLR, no proste z Ciny umne cpou do bambusovych stvolu, kde vyse jmenovany ccha nacicha a nacicha az za nej date 170 Kc. Dalsi pripad intimniho styku caje s bambusem se deje v tzv. cajovych perlach, jez nam importuje fa. Tandoori. Tento caj nevalne kvality je balen po davkach v bambusoven listu, ale zde se hraje spise na obalovy efekt. Slysel sem o nestastnikovy ktery takovy obal povazoval za vychodni obdobu buniciny a tak s nim take nalozil. Neni divu, ze mu caj nechutnal! V Kristu Milan >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Feb 15 18:29:28 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA08851; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:29:28 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA08843 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:29:27 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA20235 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:33:42 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16330 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:33:42 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 15 Feb 99 15:33:43 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 15 Feb 99 15:33:13 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:33:09 +100 Subject: RE: Caj: Sitka X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <147ABEC2D9D@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > Ted k machalkum, tedy tem co caj uzavrou do bambusove, > > plastove ci hlinene > > klece a po vzoru inkvizice jej trestaji ponorenim do vody, ke > > vsemu horky. > > Musim se priznat, ze toto taky obcas delam. Kazdej den v praci, kdy ma > clovek pouze hrnek, varnou konvici (ve ktery louhovat nemuze, kvuli kolegum) > a louhovaci pytlik z byvale DDR (takove umelohmotne kolecko, ze ktereho vysi > necojakolatkovy vacek. Caj v tom volne plave, je mozne ho promichavat a pak > snadno vyjmout a vacek vyplachnout.) V pravde, ja mam v praci krabicku se sackovymi caji...a k snidani si udelam nejaky ten ovocny caj. Nechutna mi, ale ke kolacku... Ale pres prah domova by mi nesmel prejit :-) Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Feb 15 18:29:28 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA08849; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:29:28 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA08840 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:29:26 +0100 Received: from kanec.linux (kanec.plemdat.czn.cz [194.213.228.200]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA21698 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:10:00 +0100 (MET) Received: from milan (milan.plemdat.czn.cz [223.45.6.152]) by kanec.linux (8.8.5/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id QAA01398 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:09:19 +0100 Message-ID: <005501be58f5$44bbc220$98062ddf@milan> From: "=?iso-8859-2?Q?Milan_=C8ervenka?=" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Sitka Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:10:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz -----Původní zpráva----- Od: LToman@zivpo.cz Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz Datum: 15. února 1999 15:00 Předmět: RE: Caj: Sitka >> Ted k machalkum, tedy tem co caj uzavrou do bambusove, >> plastove ci hlinene >> klece a po vzoru inkvizice jej trestaji ponorenim do vody, ke >> vsemu horky. > >Musim se priznat, ze toto taky obcas delam. Kazdej den v praci, kdy ma >clovek pouze hrnek, varnou konvici (ve ktery louhovat nemuze, kvuli kolegum) >a louhovaci pytlik z byvale DDR (takove umelohmotne kolecko, ze ktereho vysi >necojakolatkovy vacek. Caj v tom volne plave, je mozne ho promichavat a pak >snadno vyjmout a vacek vyplachnout.) > > Galenius Galenius, i etak vazmozno. To je mezi tebou a cajem. Pokud si nestezuje chutovym poharkum, je to v pohodicce. Pisu, protoze sem byl napaden, ze jsem tvrdeho srdce a nepoucuju bratry sve o vire sve v dostatecne lasce. Ja to delal jako ty ve vacku bavlnenem jaky je v Amani k dostani a ten pak se velmi neosvecil, neb caj lazni nabyl a otvorem horenim nebylo mozno jej z konve dostati. Vlhky pak sobecky drze se cajinek v jeho porech uvizlych, znemoznujic brzke pouziti, nenasel u mne pak milosti a odvrzen byl. V Kristu Milan >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Feb 15 18:29:30 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA08856; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:29:30 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA08853 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:29:29 +0100 Received: from kanec.linux (kanec.plemdat.czn.cz [194.213.228.200]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA19941 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:25:51 +0100 (MET) Received: from milan (milan.plemdat.czn.cz [223.45.6.152]) by kanec.linux (8.8.5/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id PAA01152 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:25:02 +0100 Message-ID: <004901be58ef$15375b50$98062ddf@milan> From: "=?iso-8859-2?Q?Milan_=C8ervenka?=" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Sitka Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:25:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Hele lidi, moje nejstarsi bambusovy sitko je tri roky stary a cerny jako uhel. Chut caje to nekazi protoze ho pouzivam, jak uz nazev napovida, na cezeni, ne na louhovani caje. Jinak se odvazim razit teorii, ze bambus se chova jako ising keramika, tj. cim jetejsi tim lepsi, ale to je spis sranda. V Kristu Milan >Pouzit znovu to muzes. O to nejde. Ale pak at si ten, kdo to takto dela, >nestezuje, ze mu jeho sitko velice rychle nacichne cajem. > > Galenius >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Feb 15 18:30:58 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA08907; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:30:58 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from eros.zcu.cz (eros.zcu.cz [147.228.1.10]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA08904 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:30:57 +0100 Received: from kanec.linux (kanec.plemdat.czn.cz [194.213.228.200]) by eros.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA13857 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:05:28 +0100 Received: from milan (milan.plemdat.czn.cz [223.45.6.152]) by kanec.linux (8.8.5/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id PAA01341 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:59:36 +0100 Message-ID: <005001be58f3$e95595b0$98062ddf@milan> From: "=?iso-8859-2?Q?Milan_=C8ervenka?=" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Sitka Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:00:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz BREJ DEN PAVLE A VSICHNI LIDE DOBRE VULE! tvrda slova - vnitrni sila - moudrost - pravda ==:o( Cervenka si dovolil napsat: >>Ted k machalkum, tedy tem co caj uzavrou do bambusove, plastove ci hlinene >> klece a po vzoru inkvizice jej trestaji ponorenim do vody, ke vsemu horky. >> Ja timto zpusobem trestam caje ktere jsou BOP (kterymi ale "spravny" cajar >> opovrhuje) .......... jenom si neuvědomil, ze az to budete cist, tak nikdo neuvidi jak se u toho tvaril, tady je videt nedostatek pisemneho kontaktu - nevidime si do ksichtu. Takze ja se fakt netvaril povysene, snazil sem se situaci zlehcit, za nic z toho co sem napsal o sve praxi bych neved válku. Machalci je pro mne zdrobnelina roztomila nikoli ironicka. Ja se k nim hrde hlasim neb to provozuju s kavovyma filtrama. "spravny cajar" - to neznamena jen snob. Zlehcuju tu ty vazne cajare co zpatra hledi na ty co si v cajovne daj treba tuarega nebo cejlon. Snobstvi je vsude, caji se nevyhne. Az si lidi prectou na mym webu seznam caju co sem pil treba si to o mne budou taky myslet. Vono tech sest konvicek a tricet salku co se mi nejak dostali do bytu, taky neni zadna skromnost. Drceny se samozrejme, nerovna hnusny. Treba na Rizacek mi nesmej sahat. Nehlede na to ze v Cine byla kdys tendence vsechny caje nemilosrdne drtit, ale to prace nemusim vykladat, zacina to smrdet "poucovanim". >Takze kdyz "trestas" ty BOP caje, zakonite se ti msti. Naopak! Z buniciny neni uniku. >Sasek se zadusil vlastnim vtipem a odesel do vecnych lovist. Jinymi slovy odhlasil se. To te asi nemrzi, vid? No, necham sarkasmu. Dost apologetiky! Nevite lidickove drazi kde v Praze sehnat salky k isingu, nebo jakykoli jednohltovy hlineny salky. Pokud mozno levne? V Kristu Milan >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Feb 15 20:14:09 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA09314; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 20:14:09 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA09305 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 20:14:07 +0100 Received: from ns1.ipnet.cz (ns1.ipnet.cz [212.20.64.2]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA27678 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 20:00:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from pent-200 (a5r1-pribram.ipnet.cz [212.20.68.58]) by ns1.ipnet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA19254 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:59:51 +0100 Message-ID: <000201be5914$8e8436c0$3a4414d4@pent-200> From: "BENT" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Sitka Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:48:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz >Musim se priznat, ze toto taky obcas delam. Kazdej den v praci, kdy ma >clovek pouze hrnek, varnou konvici (ve ktery louhovat nemuze, kvuli kolegum) >a louhovaci pytlik z byvale DDR (takove umelohmotne kolecko, ze ktereho vysi >necojakolatkovy vacek. Caj v tom volne plave, je mozne ho promichavat a pak >snadno vyjmout a vacek vyplachnout.) > > Galenius Delal jsem to take tak, nez jsem si v praci zavedl zde propagovany "3-konvovy system" ;-) Dalsi moznosti je pripravit caj v jednom salku (pokud po ranu pijete mensi mnozstvi) a po vylouhovani scedit do druheho. Pri navsteve Plzne, cajovny "v Plachovce", jsem si vsiml, ze caj take pripravuji primo v sitku. Je z keramiky, zasunute v konvicce a obsluha ho prelije vodou pozadovane teploty (netyka se vsech druhu). Presto, ze doma i v praci si pripravuji caj podle "odbornou verejnosti" uznavaneho zpusobu :-)) mam za to, ze caj pripraveny v umelohmotnem sitku neni o nic horsi co do chuti. Kdo tento druh pripravy striktne odsuzuje, necht zkusi nasledujici test. Nechte si od nekoho pripravit caj louhovany v konvici ( alespon na 9 salku) a jeden salek v sitku. Potom aniz by jste vedeli ktery je ktery pokuste se ten "sitkovy" degustaci urcit. Pokud se Vam to podari na poprve, skladam hold Vasi vytribene chuti. S pratelskym pozdravem Michael >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Feb 15 20:14:09 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA09315; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 20:14:09 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA09308 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 20:14:08 +0100 Received: from kanec.linux (kanec.plemdat.czn.cz [194.213.228.200]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA27111 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:36:55 +0100 (MET) Received: from milan (milan.plemdat.czn.cz [223.45.6.152]) by kanec.linux (8.8.5/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id TAA02270 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:36:18 +0100 Message-ID: <008701be5912$2ee6beb0$98062ddf@milan> From: "=?iso-8859-2?Q?Milan_=C8ervenka?=" To: Subject: Re: Re: Caj: Sitka Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:37:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz >> > P.S. Co ste provedli Saskovi, dlouho se neozval. Nevdechnul rolnicky? >> Sasek se zadusil vlastnim vtipem a odesel do vecnych lovist. Jinymi >> slovy odhlasil se. > > Odchod Saska je pro konferenci skoda, protoze nam toho mohl hodne rict >(velmi dobre ho dlouha leta znam a sam jsem ho sem pozval). Zel z prave >vyse uvedenych duvodu to zabalil ... s usmevem a bez zlych emoci ... jak je >jeho zvykem. > A ne aby nekdo rikal, ze je to off-topic...nebo jak se to... Saska je skoda. Nekdy me ty jeho mysticky prednasky unavovaly a nemoh sem s nima souhlasit, ale jinak tu byl osvezenim. Holt, nejen introverti zustavaji nepochopeni. Patrne je to clovek dost inteligentni nato aby poznal kde mu psenka nekvete.Tak ho pozdravuj a kdyby mi chtěl zacinkat rolnickama, tak mejl zna. Jinak ke konferenci. Vazim si Pavla, podle mne je to poctivec a dric, ale holt casto nevystihne jak je to doopravdy. Delat si z nej srandu nebo mu to vycitat by bylo pitomy (prece nejsme sasci). A donekonecna se omlouvat a vysvetlovat ... to by nam pak vystyd vsechen caj a vo ten tady (na konferenci) preci de. Ne? Dojedu paimutan a du domu. V praci unaven, v Kristu osvezen Milan >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Feb 16 00:59:09 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA09776; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 00:59:09 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA09770 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 00:59:08 +0100 Received: from conan.asysijd.cz (mailexim@server.asysijd.cz [195.75.66.161]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA30964 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 00:04:49 +0100 (MET) Received: from kol-dial4.asysijd.cz (asysijd.cz) [195.75.66.14] by conan.asysijd.cz with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1 (Debian)) id 10CX4Q-0007ah-00; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 00:04:54 +0100 Message-ID: <36C8A634.15F1A293@asysijd.cz> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 23:56:53 +0100 From: Jan Bourek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: - Cajovy Dychanek - Subject: Caj: Luhovani Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Bore da, trochu mne prekvapilo, ze pri obrovske debate o luhovani cajovych listu (nyni mam na mysli vicenalevove caje) se nikdo nezminil o zpusobu, kdy se caj vlozi primo do konvice, ze ktere se pije a postupne se zaleva horkou vodou. Mozna jsem se jen spatne dival, ale opravdu jsem tuto metodu v debate nenasel. *JB* >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Feb 16 00:59:10 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA09777; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 00:59:10 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA09773 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 00:59:08 +0100 Received: from conan.asysijd.cz (mailexim@server.asysijd.cz [195.75.66.161]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA30985 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 00:04:48 +0100 (MET) Received: from kol-dial4.asysijd.cz (asysijd.cz) [195.75.66.14] by conan.asysijd.cz with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1 (Debian)) id 10CX4N-0007ae-00; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 00:04:52 +0100 Message-ID: <36C8A549.D57E244F@asysijd.cz> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 23:52:57 +0100 From: Jan Bourek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: BAMBUSOVA POLIVKA References: <006001be58f7$77f5dac0$98062ddf@milan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > mluvilo se tady o bambusovy prichuti caje, ze? V DC prodavaj ccha ktery > tenke rucky delnic z PRC, RPC, CLR, no proste z Ciny umne cpou do > bambusovych stvolu, kde vyse jmenovany ccha nacicha a nacicha az za nej date > 170 Kc. Dalsi pripad intimniho styku caje s bambusem se deje v tzv. cajovych Bore da, v kolinske cajovne ho take maji a jmenuje se tusim Yunan Bamboo (ale nerucim za to hlavou), nikdy jsem ho nepil, ale chystam se na ne nej uz asi pul roku. Bohuzel, nikdy neni ta spravna nalada. *JB* >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Feb 16 09:30:48 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA10767; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 09:30:48 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA10764 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 09:30:42 +0100 Received: from kanec.linux (kanec.plemdat.czn.cz [194.213.228.200]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA03351 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 08:48:17 +0100 (MET) Received: from milan (milan.plemdat.czn.cz [223.45.6.152]) by kanec.linux (8.8.5/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id IAA05204 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 08:47:35 +0100 Message-ID: <000c01be5980$bc43d2c0$98062ddf@milan> From: "=?iso-8859-2?Q?Milan_=C8ervenka?=" To: Subject: Caj: Re: Luhovani Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 08:48:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ale jo, psal jsem o kungfu priprave delem tak vsechny oolongy, ale nejak to zapadlo ve viru podruznejsich dat. Mam maly ising, po prvnim spareni okamzite vyliju vodu do vylevky, dalsi nalev po pul minute celej rozleju do salku, vim ze je to jen jeden ze spusobu, kdy caj zustava v konvici, delam to taky s bilejma cajema, ty teda dolejvam horkou vodou, ale kdyz piju sam mam na to jihocinskou misku s vickem a podsalkem z rejzovy keramiky a vrele ji doporucuju (viz. clanek Putovani za cajovym kralem - Lide a zeme 1/1999) V Kristu Milan >Bore da, >trochu mne prekvapilo, ze pri obrovske debate o luhovani cajovych listu >(nyni mam na mysli vicenalevove caje) se nikdo nezminil o zpusobu, kdy >se caj vlozi primo do konvice, ze ktere se pije a postupne se zaleva >horkou vodou. Mozna jsem se jen spatne dival, ale opravdu jsem tuto >metodu v debate nenasel. > >*JB* > >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Feb 16 09:51:18 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA10873; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 09:51:18 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA10870 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 09:51:17 +0100 Received: from ns1.ipnet.cz (ns1.ipnet.cz [212.20.64.2]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA06352 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 09:51:16 +0100 (MET) Received: from pent-200 (a5r1-pribram.ipnet.cz [212.20.68.58]) by ns1.ipnet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA21610 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 09:51:13 +0100 Message-ID: <001401be5988$ae5b5cc0$3a4414d4@pent-200> From: "BENT" To: Subject: Caj: Re: Miska Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 09:45:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz ale kdyz piju sam >mam na to jihocinskou misku s vickem a podsalkem z rejzovy keramiky a vrele >ji doporucuju (viz. clanek Putovani za cajovym kralem - Lide a zeme 1/1999) >V Kristu Milan Presne takovou shanim, nevite kde bych ji mohl ziskat? Michael >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Feb 16 10:31:09 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA11166; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:31:09 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA11163 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:31:08 +0100 Received: from kanec.linux (kanec.plemdat.czn.cz [194.213.228.200]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA07958 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:30:44 +0100 (MET) Received: from milan (milan.plemdat.czn.cz [223.45.6.152]) by kanec.linux (8.8.5/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id KAA07537 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:29:44 +0100 Message-ID: <002a01be598f$01ab1fe0$98062ddf@milan> From: "=?iso-8859-2?Q?Milan_=C8ervenka?=" To: Subject: Caj: misticky Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:30:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Panove a krasne damy, omlouvam se se vam zaneraduju vase schranky, ale stale u mne trva problem s salky. Mame malou ising konvicku, kterou jsem jako vetsinu konvicek dostal darem, a ta ma k sobe dva kalisky zvici velikosti naprstku. Pripravuji oolong, tak jak jsem jiz vyse popsal, tudiz potrebuji salky na vyliti celeho nalevu, ale do obou kalisku se vejde asi jen tretina obsahu konvicky (ta je asi cvrt litrova). Chtel bych proto nejaky neglazovany hlineny salky. Tak prosim vsechny znalce obchodu s keramikou jestli nekde nezahledli pohresovane nadobi. Udat jej muzete na mym mejlu. Diky V Kristu Milan >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Feb 16 10:57:32 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA11365; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:57:32 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA11362 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:57:32 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA09316 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:57:31 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16651 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:57:31 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 16 Feb 99 10:57:31 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 16 Feb 99 10:57:29 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:57:21 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Re: Luhovani X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <15B140B143E@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > >Bore da, > >trochu mne prekvapilo, ze pri obrovske debate o luhovani cajovych listu > >(nyni mam na mysli vicenalevove caje) se nikdo nezminil o zpusobu, kdy > >se caj vlozi primo do konvice, ze ktere se pije a postupne se zaleva > >horkou vodou. Mozna jsem se jen spatne dival, ale opravdu jsem tuto > >metodu v debate nenasel. No jo, v DC to take takhle delaji. V domaci kuchyni to nedelam, ale tam uz jsem si zvykl a da se s tim vyjit docela dobre, jen to chce uz pak mit urcite triky, aby ke konci konvicky cloveku neupadla pusa. Jeste jsou take ty salky (nazev nevim, znam je z DC na Mustku), kde mate caj v nem, na nem mate poklicku a caj pijete tak, ze pres poklicku cedite listky a pritom i pijete. Skvele, doufam, ze brzo poridim. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Feb 16 11:44:19 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA11515; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 11:44:19 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA11511 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 11:44:17 +0100 Received: from kanec.linux (kanec.plemdat.czn.cz [194.213.228.200]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA10083 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 11:09:28 +0100 (MET) Received: from milan (milan.plemdat.czn.cz [223.45.6.152]) by kanec.linux (8.8.5/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id LAA08621 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 11:08:42 +0100 Message-ID: <002f01be5994$72bc7da0$98062ddf@milan> From: "=?iso-8859-2?Q?Milan_=C8ervenka?=" To: Subject: Caj: Re: Re: Miska Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 11:09:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz >ale kdyz piju sam >>mam na to jihocinskou misku s vickem a podsalkem z rejzovy keramiky a vrele >>ji doporucuju (viz. clanek Putovani za cajovym kralem - Lide a zeme 1/1999) >>V Kristu Milan >Presne takovou shanim, nevite kde bych ji mohl ziskat? >Michael V Amane ji maj koukni se na caj.cz katalogove cislo : 956 Cínská cajová miska s poklickou a podsálkem Jinak kazda slusna cajovna by je mela mit v nabidce V Kristu Milan >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Feb 16 11:44:18 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA11514; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 11:44:18 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA11508 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 11:44:17 +0100 From: SEVEROVA@gytool.cz Received: from power.ol.cesnet.cz ([194.212.160.147]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA11722 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 11:33:29 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailer.gytool.cz ([194.212.37.22]) by power.ol.cesnet.cz (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id LAA15838 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 11:21:20 +0100 (NFT) Received: from GH-2/SpoolDir by mailer.gytool.cz (Mercury 1.44); 16 Feb 99 11:33:28 MET +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by GH-2 (Mercury 1.44); 16 Feb 99 11:33:22 MET +0100 Organization: Gymnazium v Olomouci-Hejcine, CZ To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 11:33:22 MET +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Caj: Re: Luhovani X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.40 Message-ID: <57DA1F28B0@mailer.gytool.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > No jo, v DC to take takhle delaji. V domaci kuchyni to nedelam, ale tam > uz jsem si zvykl a da se s tim vyjit docela dobre, jen to chce uz pak mit > urcite triky, aby ke konci konvicky cloveku neupadla pusa. > Jeste jsou take ty salky (nazev nevim, znam je z DC na Mustku), kde mate > caj v nem, na nem mate poklicku a caj pijete tak, ze pres poklicku cedite > listky a pritom i pijete. Skvele, doufam, ze brzo poridim. Ja mam konvicku, ktera ma sitko pred hrdlem, takze se perfektne naliva. Proste tam dam caj, vylouhuju a pres to sitko, co je v nem, naleju . Nema chubu, ale je hodne stara a mam jen jednu, takze na jiny caj pouzivam sitko z umele hmoty, velke jako hrnek. SASA > > >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Feb 16 13:40:33 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA11922; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 13:40:33 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from eros.zcu.cz (eros.zcu.cz [147.228.1.10]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA11919 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 13:40:32 +0100 Received: from kanec.linux (kanec.plemdat.czn.cz [194.213.228.200]) by eros.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA20386 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 13:40:16 +0100 Received: from milan (milan.plemdat.czn.cz [223.45.6.152]) by kanec.linux (8.8.5/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id NAA09453 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 13:31:43 +0100 Message-ID: <004801be59a8$6fd57330$98062ddf@milan> From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Milan_=C8ervenka?=" To: Subject: Re: Re: Caj: Re: Luhovani Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 13:32:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ja mam konvicku, ktera ma sitko pred hrdlem, takze se perfektne naliva. Proste tam dam caj, vylouhuju a pres to sitko, co je v nem, naleju . Nema chubu, ale je hodne stara a mam jen jednu, takze na jiny caj pouzivam sitko z umele hmoty, velke jako hrnek. SASA > Jo to mozna znam, je takovy velky umely s pulmesicky po stranach, presne do sklenene konvice, zena ho pouziva na koleji a docela ho chvali. V Kristu Milan >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Feb 16 20:14:54 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA12751; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 20:14:54 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA12742 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 20:14:53 +0100 From: SEVEROVA@gytool.cz Received: from risc.upol.cz ([158.194.7.2]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA26519 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 18:15:51 +0100 (MET) Received: from alpha.inf.upol.cz (root@localhost) by risc.upol.cz (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with SMTP id SAA15616 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 18:15:50 +0100 (NFT) Received: from [194.212.37.22] by alpha.inf.upol.cz (5.65v4.0/1.1.10.5/04Dec97-0211PM) id AA00900; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 18:15:49 +0100 Received: from GH-2/SpoolDir by mailer.gytool.cz (Mercury 1.44); 16 Feb 99 18:15:41 MET +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by GH-2 (Mercury 1.44); 16 Feb 99 15:24:26 MET +0100 Organization: Gymnazium v Olomouci-Hejcine, CZ To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 15:24:25 MET +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Re: Caj: Re: Luhovani X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.40 Message-Id: <5BB42B695D@mailer.gytool.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Ja mam konvicku, ktera ma sitko pred hrdlem, takze se perfektne > naliva. Proste tam dam caj, vylouhuju a pres to sitko, co je v nem, > naleju . Nema chubu, ale je hodne stara a mam jen jednu, takze na > jiny caj pouzivam sitko z umele hmoty, velke jako hrnek. SASA > > > > Jo to mozna znam, je takovy velky umely s pulmesicky po stranach, presne do > sklenene konvice, > zena ho pouziva na koleji a docela ho chvali. > V Kristu Milan > Neni umely, je kovovy a rucku ma od tela oddelenou korkem. A taky ho chvalim. SASA >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Feb 17 11:56:26 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA14653; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 11:56:26 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA14650 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 11:56:25 +0100 Received: from juno.fek.zcu.cz (juno.fek.zcu.cz [147.228.190.20]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA15831 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 11:55:55 +0100 (MET) Received: from fek.zcu.cz (noe.fek.zcu.cz [147.228.190.5]) by juno.fek.zcu.cz with ESMTP id LAA03516 (8.8.8/IDA-1.7 for ); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 11:55:54 +0100 Received: from NOE/SpoolDir by fek.zcu.cz (Mercury 1.43); 17 Feb 99 11:50:42 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by NOE (Mercury 1.43); 17 Feb 99 11:50:26 +0100 From: "milec cajoveho moku " To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 11:50:24 -0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Caj: Mano, uvar caj. X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.40 Message-ID: Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Mano, uvar caj Kdyz varna konvice vzdycha po kuchyni, venku jsou uz snehove zaveje a pan Stolfa teprve domackava budika aby mohl presne ve svych sest ctyricetpet oblict salu, capku, kabat a jit na to. V ulici je plno tripodlaznich panelaku a pred kazdym je halda cerstveho i stareho snehu, nejaky auto a nejaky popelnice. Snih neni odklizenej. Pan Stolfa mizi z line vyzarovaneho mista na podlaze pres ulici stojicich lamp. Zveda se mu zaludek. Mano,.. takovyho srani s ranem, posranej uklid snehu, .. a na Milese zase vysel cistej chodnik a na mne .. nejmin tricet cisel a chumeli jak v prdeli .. varis uz?! Vratil se do osvicenych dvou ctverecnich metru, zhodnotil situaci a ted si natahuje fusekle. Zvedl se ji zaludek, tak tise prosla kolem pootevrenych dveri loznice do kuchyne, az ke konvici, vypla ji, hodila tam pytlik, ten pekne zaretizkoval, jak ho ta voda priskvarila, ona se usmala, protoze se ji to docela libilo. Lzici ho mackala na rozpalenou spiralu, at je pekne silny, at ma barvu. Provazek ji sklouzl do horke vody. Delej prece at ti to nestydne, zazpivala, jak ji horko na prstech popalilo, povytahla provazek a pytlik radsi jeste trochu zmackla, aby i posledni kapicka caje padla do konvice a zbylou nedefinovatelnou hmotu bez zajmu odhodila na pootevreny kos. Pytlik sklouzl hladove dovnitr a kdyz Stolfa dopil preslazenou brecku, jen nepatrny lesk te hladove cesticky upominal na cajove zvyky tehle ceske, uplne obycejne rodiny. Odesla na toaletu.. CAJ zdravim vsechny ucastniky cajoveho dychanku mcm. michal >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Feb 17 13:44:15 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA15093; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 13:44:15 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA15090 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 13:44:14 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA18995 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 13:13:36 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA26890 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 13:13:36 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 17 Feb 99 13:13:36 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 17 Feb 99 13:13:31 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 13:13:22 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Mano, uvar caj. X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <17559366D13@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Mano, uvar caj > > Kdyz varna konvice vzdycha po kuchyni, venku jsou uz snehove zaveje > ............ > ceske, uplne obycejne rodiny. Odesla na toaletu.. Az se mi z toho taky zvedl zaludek :-))) Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Feb 17 13:45:31 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA15108; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 13:45:31 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA15105 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 13:45:30 +0100 Received: from kanec.linux (kanec.plemdat.czn.cz [194.213.228.200]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA18258 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:57:28 +0100 (MET) Received: from milan (milan.plemdat.czn.cz [223.45.6.152]) by kanec.linux (8.8.5/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id MAA15237 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:51:12 +0100 Message-ID: <000801be5a6b$f10e0160$98062ddf@milan> From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Milan_=C8ervenka?=" To: Subject: Caj: Re: Mano, uvar caj. Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:52:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz -----Původní zpráva----- Od: milec cajoveho moku Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz Datum: 17. února 1999 12:16 Předmět: Caj: Mano, uvar caj. Mano, uvar caj Kdyz varna konvice vzdycha po kuchyni, venku jsou uz snehove zaveje a pan Stolfa teprve domackava budika aby mohl presne ve svych sest ctyricetpet oblict salu, capku, kabat a jit na to. V ulici je plno tripodlaznich panelaku a pred kazdym je halda cerstveho i stareho snehu, nejaky auto a nejaky popelnice. Snih neni odklizenej. Pan Stolfa mizi z line vyzarovaneho mista na podlaze pres ulici stojicich lamp. Zveda se mu zaludek. Mano,.. takovyho srani s ranem, posranej uklid snehu, .. a na Milese zase vysel cistej chodnik a na mne .. nejmin tricet cisel a chumeli jak v prdeli .. varis uz?! Vratil se do osvicenych dvou ctverecnich metru, zhodnotil situaci a ted si natahuje fusekle. Zvedl se ji zaludek, tak tise prosla kolem pootevrenych dveri loznice do kuchyne, az ke konvici, vypla ji, hodila tam pytlik, ten pekne zaretizkoval, jak ho ta voda priskvarila, ona se usmala, protoze se ji to docela libilo. Lzici ho mackala na rozpalenou spiralu, at je pekne silny, at ma barvu. Provazek ji sklouzl do horke vody. Delej prece at ti to nestydne, zazpivala, jak ji horko na prstech popalilo, povytahla provazek a pytlik radsi jeste trochu zmackla, aby i posledni kapicka caje padla do konvice a zbylou nedefinovatelnou hmotu bez zajmu odhodila na pootevreny kos. Pytlik sklouzl hladove dovnitr a kdyz Stolfa dopil preslazenou brecku, jen nepatrny lesk te hladove cesticky upominal na cajove zvyky tehle ceske, uplne obycejne rodiny. Odesla na toaletu.. CAJ zdravim vsechny ucastniky cajoveho dychanku mcm. michal CAJ lidi, kdyz clovek uveri (Kristu), tak taky dojde k pokani a vyznavani hrichu. Bejva u toho dycky nejaky uz obraceny krestan, jako svedek. Tak me tenhle Michaluv prispevek vede k tomu abych vyznal jak se u nas kdysi zachazelo s cajem a jako svedky si beru vas. V davnych dobach meho detstvi se v nasi rodine caj ponizoval ruznymi zpusoby, mezi nejrafinovanejsi patrila "recyklace". Ta spocivala v tom ze se pouzite cajove sacky shromazdovaly a poté se jich treba pet hodilo do hrnce vrici vody a nekolik minut se povarily. Nekdy se sacek susil na topeni a pak se znovu louhoval v salku. Dodnes mame doma "cajovy hrnec", naprosto zcernaly kastrol ktery se zena snazi vyhodit, ale ja ho chranim jako relikvii a s brachou s nim dokumentujeme predesle vypraveni. Mozna by stalo za to zalozit sbirku barbarskych stylu pripravy "caje". Pokud mate takove pribehy, poslete mi je, ja je hodim na svoji stranku. Vubec by mne zajimali ruzne basne a povidky o caji (jako textove soubory s hackama a carkama), tak se nestydte! V Kristu Milan >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Feb 17 14:41:08 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA15371; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 14:41:08 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA15368 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 14:41:07 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA22172 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 14:41:06 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA03968 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 14:41:07 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 17 Feb 99 14:41:07 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 17 Feb 99 14:41:02 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 14:40:58 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Re: Mano, uvar caj. X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <176CE9A5783@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > CAJ lidi, > kdyz clovek uveri (Kristu), tak taky dojde k pokani a vyznavani hrichu. > Bejva u toho dycky nejaky uz obraceny krestan, jako svedek. Tak me tenhle > Michaluv prispevek vede k tomu abych vyznal jak se u nas kdysi zachazelo s > cajem a jako svedky si beru vas. V davnych dobach meho detstvi se v nasi > rodine caj ponizoval ruznymi zpusoby, mezi nejrafinovanejsi patrila > "recyklace". Ta spocivala v tom ze se pouzite cajove sacky shromazdovaly a > pote se jich treba pet hodilo do hrnce vrici vody a nekolik minut se > povarily. Nekdy se sacek susil na topeni a pak se znovu louhoval v salku. > Dodnes mame doma "cajovy hrnec", naprosto zcernaly kastrol ktery se zena > snazi vyhodit, ale ja ho chranim jako relikvii a s brachou s nim > dokumentujeme predesle vypraveni. Mozna by stalo za to zalozit sbirku > barbarskych stylu pripravy "caje". Pokud mate takove pribehy, poslete mi je, > ja je hodim na svoji stranku. Vubec by mne zajimali ruzne basne a povidky o > caji (jako textove soubory s hackama a carkama), tak se nestydte! Ten zvraceny zpusob vecneho machani cajoveho sacku, dokud neni voda pruzracne cista, asi bude znat vetsina z nas. Ve sve podstate se jedna o vicenalevove caje jako Pigi apod. Svou kvalitou si nezadaly s dnesnimi caji a dokonce byly viceucelove (hubeni mysi, slepovani ruznych materialu, rozpousteni kovu apod.). S postupem od tebe vyseuvedenym uz jsem se taky setkal. Jeden chlapik mi tvrdil (v okamziku, kdy do konvice ukadal pet sacku caje), ze caj musi byt poradne silny a to tvrdil jako mantru tak dlouho, az se mu po ctvrthodine z toho caje fakt stal silak. Pak by se dal pouzivat jako nepruhledne sklo. Ale i dnes se lze setkat s leccim. Muj otec obcas vylouhuje pytlik caje PRIMO V ELEKTRICKE RYCHLOVARNE KONVICI. Na namitky nereaguje (tedy otec, rychlovarna konvice mozna ano, ale kdo ji ma rozumet, ze). Pavel PS: Pozdravuje te Sasek, asi ne v Kristu, mozna spise v Dharme mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Feb 17 15:22:03 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA15660; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:22:03 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA15657 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:22:02 +0100 Received: from kanec.linux (kanec.plemdat.czn.cz [194.213.228.200]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA23165 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:21:29 +0100 (MET) Received: from milan (milan.plemdat.czn.cz [223.45.6.152]) by kanec.linux (8.8.5/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id PAA16031 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:19:18 +0100 Message-ID: <001601be5a80$a1a2fe40$98062ddf@milan> From: "=?iso-8859-2?Q?Milan_=C8ervenka?=" To: Subject: Re: Re: Caj: Re: Mano, uvar caj. Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:20:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Muj otec obcas vylouhuje pytlik caje >PRIMO V ELEKTRICKE RYCHLOVARNE KONVICI. Tak to je ovsem dost brutalni. To si snad ani ten Pigi nezaslouzi. Kdyz sme u Pigi caje, tak ja uz delsi dobu lamu vedeni Galerijni c. aby ho zavedli za 10Kc v otlucenym porcelanovym hrnku s kytickama. >PS: Pozdravuje te Sasek, asi ne v Kristu, mozna spise v Dharme Nevim jak je to z Dharmy daleko do Benesova, ale nekdy by se tu taky mohli cajomilove srazit, uz sem zval dost lidi z konference a omlouvam se tem co sem este nepozval, ale je tu prej 60 lidi tak to bych se zruinoval. To ale muzem vyridit po civilnich mejlech. Tak caj V Kristu Milan >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Feb 18 09:44:20 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA23081; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 09:44:20 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA23078 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 09:44:18 +0100 From: SEVEROVA@gytool.cz Received: from power.ol.cesnet.cz ([194.212.160.147]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA10492 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 09:13:09 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailer.gytool.cz ([194.212.37.22]) by power.ol.cesnet.cz (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id JAA24040 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 09:00:57 +0100 (NFT) Received: from GH-2/SpoolDir by mailer.gytool.cz (Mercury 1.44); 18 Feb 99 09:13:09 MET +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by GH-2 (Mercury 1.44); 18 Feb 99 09:12:58 MET +0100 Organization: Gymnazium v Olomouci-Hejcine, CZ To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 09:12:56 MET +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Caj: Re: Mano, uvar caj. X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.40 Message-ID: <202B540119@mailer.gytool.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ja pamatuji hruzny zazitek u kamaradky, ktera pripravila na snidani "caj" sobe, svym dvema detem a me a pote ho dala na talire, k nmu polozila papir: Karle, jeste barvi, muzes ho pouzit!". Uz je to hodne let, ale na to nezapomenu. Nevim, co to je, ale napriklad maloktery kafar by si znovu zalil logrovku, takze proc ten chudak caj? Mozna, kdyz se do nej nasype spusta cukru a doleje hladinka koncentarem kyseliny citronove, tak je to asi jedno. SASA >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Feb 18 11:29:17 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA23824; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:29:17 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA23818 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:29:16 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA17056 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 10:58:30 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA31925 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 10:58:31 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 18 Feb 99 10:58:29 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 18 Feb 99 10:58:24 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 10:58:18 +100 Subject: Caj: Re: Mano, uvar caj. X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <18B19654EAB@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Ja pamatuji hruzny zazitek u kamaradky, ktera pripravila na snidani > "caj" sobe, svym dvema detem a me a pote ho dala na talire, k nmu > polozila papir: Karle, jeste barvi, muzes ho pouzit!". Uz je to hodne > let, ale na to nezapomenu. Nevim, co to je, ale napriklad maloktery > kafar by si znovu zalil logrovku, takze proc ten chudak caj? Mozna, > kdyz se do nej nasype spusta cukru a doleje hladinka koncentarem > kyseliny citronove, tak je to asi jedno. SASA I kdepak, je-li to opravdu davno, tak take pamatuju, ze v te dobe slo vice o BARVU, nez o chut, neb ta stejne nebyla valna. Ja osobne coby male robatko jsem to dochucoval z 1/3 mlekem a cukrem...a tim se chut caje vyrusila. A jak jsem si smakoval. A vydrzelo mi to jeste tak do '97 roku. Dneska uz bych to snesl tak u babicky s kolackama nebo buchtickou. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Feb 18 12:14:17 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA23996; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 12:14:17 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA23990 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 12:14:16 +0100 Received: from kanec.linux (kanec.plemdat.czn.cz [194.213.228.200]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA20726 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:41:37 +0100 (MET) Received: from milan (milan.plemdat.czn.cz [223.45.6.152]) by kanec.linux (8.8.5/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id LAA20812 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:40:55 +0100 Message-ID: <002d01be5b2b$4a3b6380$98062ddf@milan> From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Milan_=C8ervenka?=" To: Subject: Re: Re: Caj: Re: Mano, uvar caj. Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:41:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ja pamatuji hruzny zazitek u kamaradky, ktera pripravila na snidani "caj" sobe, svym dvema detem a me a pote ho dala na talire, k nmu polozila papir: Karle, jeste barvi, muzes ho pouzit!". Uz je to hodne let, ale na to nezapomenu. Nevim, co to je, ale napriklad maloktery kafar by si znovu zalil logrovku, takze proc ten chudak caj? Mozna, kdyz se do nej nasype spusta cukru a doleje hladinka koncentarem kyseliny citronove, tak je to asi jedno. SASA Diky za prispevek, sbirka uz se rozrusta, tak lidi vzpominejte. Posledni dny, po velke hadce o sitka, je konference nejaka umrela, tak snad nebude vadit tohle odlehceny tema. Pro vaznejsi ucastniky, tu mam nove tema - Chutove rozdily v druhu caje podle roku sklizne. Konkretne se mi jedna o Vietnam CHE THAI NGUYEN. Mam ted doma jeho posledni dve sklizne a je to jako dva druhy caje. Snad by mi to mohl vysvetlit nekdo z dovozcu. Diky V Kristu Milan >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Feb 18 13:30:42 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA24411; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:30:42 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA24401 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:30:41 +0100 Received: from ns.felk.cvut.cz (ns.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.9]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA30103 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:16:22 +0100 (MET) Received: from sun (sun.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.32]) by ns.felk.cvut.cz (8.9.2/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA52241 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:16:21 +0100 (MET) Received: from sun45.felk.cvut.cz by sun (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14162; Thu, 18 Feb 99 13:16:20 +0100 Received: by sun45.felk.cvut.cz (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08116; Thu, 18 Feb 99 13:16:20 +0100 Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:16:19 +0100 (MET) From: Tregner Vaclav student 6_98_99 k336 X-Sender: xtregner@sun45 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Cajove pytlicky & Ruzova cajovna In-Reply-To: <002d01be5b2b$4a3b6380$98062ddf@milan> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ahoj, dneska jsem si rano pri vstavani pustil televizi a bezel tam nejakej porad pro zensky, myslim ze Sama doma. Jako host tam byl nekdo z Ruzove cajovny (na titulku bylo "cajovy znalec") a taky jsem si vsiml, jak kamera zoomovala po stole, ze tam meli krabicky s pytlikovyma cajema, ktere vyrabi primo ona cajovna. Mate nekdo s nima nejaky zkusenosti? Je tam nejaky rozdil v kvalite oproti jinym pytlikovym cajum? Onen pan rikal, ze kvalita pylikovych caju jde nahoru (kvuli rostouci konkurenci se sypanymi). Myslite ze ma aspon trochu pravdu nebo jenom blafuje a dela si reklamu na svy caje. Cau Vasek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Feb 18 13:30:43 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA24418; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:30:43 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA24410 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:30:42 +0100 Received: from juno.fek.zcu.cz (juno.fek.zcu.cz [147.228.190.20]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA29613 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:12:39 +0100 (MET) Received: from fek.zcu.cz (noe.fek.zcu.cz [147.228.190.5]) by juno.fek.zcu.cz with ESMTP id NAA25207 (8.8.8/IDA-1.7); Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:12:38 +0100 Received: from NOE/SpoolDir by fek.zcu.cz (Mercury 1.43); 18 Feb 99 13:07:23 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by NOE (Mercury 1.43); 18 Feb 99 13:07:16 +0100 From: "mcm michal dlouhy" To: "Pavel Hlavacek" , caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:07:11 -0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Caj: Re: Re: Mano, uvar caj. X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.40 Message-ID: Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > I kdepak, je-li to opravdu davno, tak take pamatuju, ze v te dobe slo > vice o BARVU, nez o chut, neb ta stejne nebyla valna. Ja osobne coby male > robatko jsem to dochucoval z 1/3 mlekem a cukrem...a tim se chut caje > vyrusila. A jak jsem si smakoval. A vydrzelo mi to jeste tak do '97 roku. > Dneska uz bych to snesl tak u babicky s kolackama nebo buchtickou. Ja nevim jak vy, ale ja jsem taky asi tak do 97 caj nemohl ani pozrit. A navic teplej. Z podobny zasady jsem asi do 3 tridy zakl. skoly vychutnaval sunar z lahve, ale o tom psat na cajovym dychanku je asi bezpredmetny. Takze.. ted otazka, na kterou prijde, doufam, hodne odpovedi. Mate nejakou oblibenou cajovou recepturu o kterou byste se chteli podelit? Z my lasky k sunaru vychazi nasledujici: HIMALAJSKY TYGR (by Cajovna v Nerudovce, Praha) Vezmi cca 450 KC. Oblec se a jdi do kramu. Vem 1 kosik, nebo nakupni vozik. Zajed k regalu s mazlavym alkoholem. Vem 1 irsky liker CAROLANS a opatrne s nim do voziku. Jdi k pokladne a tam to zaplat. Jdi domu (po chodniku) (zatim to nezni vylozene spatne..) Vezmi 1 azbestovou rukavici. Natahni ji na ruku. Chvilku pockej. Sundej 1 azbestovou rukavici. Pockej jeste chvilku. (to je tzv. zklidnujici ritual:-) Dej varit vodu. Priprav si takove mnozstvi cerneho assamu, jake chces. Spar jej a po dvou a pul minutach (snad bude pro lepsi chapani dobre pripsat i tzv. vterinovy prepis: 150 vterin) (a zde se recepis trosku rozchazi) a, caj budto sced b, preskoc krok a, (a zde se kupodivu recept opet schazi) pridej TROCHU likeru CAROLANS (teplota dle vl.uvazeni) a pozoruj, jak jeho husta kremova barva pomalu vnika v lehky odstin indickeho caje, jak se obe v jedno misi) zakvrdlej tekutinu drevenou spachtlickou jeste trosku zakvrdlej este trosicku taak a ted prisip cukru dle vlastni chute aaa kvrdlame aaa kvrdlame aa a popijej (v tomto okamziku se doporucuje jeste navic.. rozplyvati se nad dojmem z pozivatiny, vzdychat a jinak hykat) Nejde samozrejme o caj, jakozto o prostredek povzneseni a procisteni ducha. Spis bych to tak laicky nazval, ze jde o chutove podlozene chlemtani za ucelem lahody, ale mne to proste nedalo se s vami o tento recepis nepodelit a tak se ted moc tesim, jake karty drzite v rukou vy, ruzni milenci caje) S pozdravem mcm. michal >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Feb 18 13:38:59 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA24495; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:38:59 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA24492 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:38:58 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA31726 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:38:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA20402 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:38:58 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 18 Feb 99 13:38:58 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 18 Feb 99 13:38:48 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:38:44 +100 Subject: Caj: Re: Mano, uvar caj. X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <18DC5D0754B@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Takze.. ted otazka, na kterou prijde, doufam, hodne odpovedi. > > Mate nejakou oblibenou cajovou recepturu o kterou byste se chteli > podelit? > > Z my lasky k sunaru vychazi nasledujici: > > HIMALAJSKY TYGR (by Cajovna v Nerudovce, Praha) > > ............................................................ > S pozdravem > mcm. michal Jaj jaaaa, tomu rikam labuznictvi. Pokud cely ten proces skutecne dokazes sledovat a procitovat, jsi na nejlepsi ceste k Osviceni ;-) Ja znam: vem dve drevene cajove lzicky s Gunpowderem, mozna i tri, zalij je vrouci vodou v objemu jedne konvicky a nech tak 15 minut louhovat. Pak rozlej do salku a chvili tise posed. Pak se napij, straslive se zaskleb (to ti asi pujde samo) a vsechno to vylej do zachoda. No a pak si ho udelej poradne. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Feb 18 13:48:49 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA24549; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:48:49 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA24546 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:48:48 +0100 Received: from server.ica.cz (IDENT:root@[195.47.13.11]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA32760 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:48:32 +0100 (MET) Received: from brn.pvt.cz (com.ica.cz [195.47.13.10]) by server.ica.cz (8.9.2/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA03080 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:47:47 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <36CC0BF1.55BE0762@brn.pvt.cz> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:47:45 +0100 From: Petr Buchmaier X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Nova kniha o caji ?? References: <002d01be5b2b$4a3b6380$98062ddf@milan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Dobry den nejspis se chysta Velka kniha o caji viz clanek v MF http://www.idnes.cz/idskosile/cestovani.asp?x=cestovani/clanky/990215_142418_cestovani_pch pan Zdenek Thoma, autor fotografii v knize o japonskych zahradech zde mimo jine rika cituji ---------- Kam se v nejbližší době chystáte a co dalšího připravujete? Chci vyrazit na cestu do Indonésie. Dále připravuji společně s rodinou "Velkou knihu o čaji". Měla by to být reprezentativní publikace. Pracuji také na další knížce o Asii, která by měla představit některá zajímavá místa. A právě zítra bude v Praze otevřena moje další výstava z Japonska, která byla nazvána "Zahrady tichého mámení". ------------ dobry caj i pocteni preje Petr Buchmaier http://www.caje.cz P.S. byl jsem u Rotta v praze a koukal jsem kolik tam maji caju, takovou prodejnu mit nekdy na internetu to by bylo ;-) >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Feb 18 13:49:22 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA24566; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:49:22 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA24563 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:49:21 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA32647 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:49:21 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA21722 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:49:21 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 18 Feb 99 13:49:21 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 18 Feb 99 13:48:52 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:48:43 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Cajove pytlicky & Ruzova cajovna X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <18DF0B728C2@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > dneska jsem si rano pri vstavani pustil televizi a bezel tam nejakej porad > pro zensky, myslim ze Sama doma. Jako host tam byl nekdo z Ruzove cajovny > (na titulku bylo "cajovy znalec") a taky jsem si vsiml, jak kamera > zoomovala po stole, ze tam > meli krabicky s pytlikovyma cajema, ktere vyrabi primo ona cajovna. Mate > nekdo s nima nejaky zkusenosti? Je tam nejaky rozdil v kvalite oproti > jinym pytlikovym cajum? Onen pan rikal, ze kvalita pylikovych caju jde > nahoru (kvuli rostouci konkurenci se sypanymi). Myslite ze ma aspon > trochu pravdu nebo jenom blafuje a dela si reklamu na svy caje. Nemuzu si pomoct, ale kvalite sypanych caju se to muze opravdu jen blizit uz z principu. Chutove...no, snad, proc ne, nakonec. Pokud vezmu kvalitni treba Bai Hao a dam ho do pytliku, bude to proste kvalitni pytlikovy caj. Ale sam ten proces udelani caje, ten tomu dava uplne jinou formu. Pytlikovy caj proste hodim do vody a muzu dal delat neco jineho, pak pytlik jen vytahnu a hotovo ... no a ani moc nevim, ze jsem si vlastne udelal caj. Znam to od bratra, ktery o sypanych cajich rovnou rekl, ze jeho zivot je prilis rychly na to, aby se mohl zdrzovat pripravou caje. Ale na druhou stranu, co si kdo z toho vezme, to je jeho vec. Je pravda, ze ja v praci treba nemam moc podminky na pripravu caje "trikonvickovym" stylem a tak bych pro tuto vyjimku kvalitni pytlikovy uvital, ale na to mi zase to, co zatim je na trhu, bohate postacuje. No, dost o tom a dame si radeji caj. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Feb 18 14:44:18 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA24948; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 14:44:18 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA24942 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 14:44:17 +0100 Received: from server.ica.cz (IDENT:root@[195.47.13.11]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA00873 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:58:38 +0100 (MET) Received: from brn.pvt.cz (com.ica.cz [195.47.13.10]) by server.ica.cz (8.9.2/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA03348 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:58:21 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <36CC0E6A.AE49629C@brn.pvt.cz> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:58:18 +0100 From: Petr Buchmaier X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Cajove pytlicky & Ruzova cajovna References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ahoj caj z ruzove cajovny jsem koupil kamaradce, jednalo se o kouzelnou fletnu, cili ovocny caj, docela ji chutnal, ja sam jsem ho nepil, ovocne caje nepiju a proto je nedovedu posoudit podle ceho by jste je posuzovali vy, hodne barvi, je tam citit skutecne ovoce, nebo "prirodne identicke" aroma ? je kysely ? spise trpci ? vune je ?? nevim jak posuzovat ovocne caje, ale snad mi nekdo pomuze v pytlikovych cajich dnes uz je vsechno teekane dela zeleny caj je i zeleny caj s matou roibos budme radi ze tyto pytliky privedou vice lidi mezi milovniky caje Petr P.S. koupil jsem si darjeling sypany od jemci a byl velmi dobrej za tu cenu, od te doby, cca 3 mesice jsem ho ale nikde nevidel Tregner Vaclav student 6_98_99 k336 wrote: > > Ahoj, > dneska jsem si rano pri vstavani pustil televizi a bezel tam nejakej porad > pro zensky, myslim ze Sama doma. Jako host tam byl nekdo z Ruzove cajovny > (na titulku bylo "cajovy znalec") a taky jsem si vsiml, jak kamera > zoomovala po stole, ze tam > meli krabicky s pytlikovyma cajema, ktere vyrabi primo ona cajovna. Mate > nekdo s nima nejaky zkusenosti? Je tam nejaky rozdil v kvalite oproti > jinym pytlikovym cajum? Onen pan rikal, ze kvalita pylikovych caju jde > nahoru (kvuli rostouci konkurenci se sypanymi). Myslite ze ma aspon > trochu pravdu nebo jenom blafuje a dela si reklamu na svy caje. > > Cau Vasek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Feb 18 17:44:19 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA25498; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:44:19 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA25495 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:44:18 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA09716 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 16:57:19 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA09180 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 16:57:20 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 18 Feb 99 16:57:19 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 18 Feb 99 16:57:09 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 16:57:06 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Cajove pytlicky & Ruzova cajovna X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <191142A5491@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > v pytlikovych cajich dnes uz je vsechno > teekane dela zeleny caj > je i zeleny caj s matou > roibos > > budme radi ze tyto pytliky privedou vice lidi mezi milovniky caje Tak s tim plne souhlasim a videl bych to jako velke plus pytlikovych caju. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Feb 19 09:25:39 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA27393; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 09:25:39 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA27387 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 09:25:37 +0100 Received: from ns.jes.cz (IDENT:root@[194.228.41.66]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA25339 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 09:25:27 +0100 (MET) Received: from default (dial-up004.jes.cz. [194.228.41.123]) by ns.jes.cz (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA07869 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 09:25:15 +0100 Message-ID: <002801be5be1$48035620$7d29e4c2@default> From: "Filgorn" To: Subject: Re: Re: Caj: Re: Mano, uvar caj. Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 09:14:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Pozor na Vietnamske rostlinne zbozi (vsechno), obvykle jeste obsahuji rezidua z valky, a asi nestoji za to otravovat se Agent Orange-m. Filgorn -----Původní zpráva----- Od: Milan Červenka Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz Datum: 18. února 1999 12:39 Předmět: Re: Re: Caj: Re: Mano, uvar caj. >Ja pamatuji hruzny zazitek u kamaradky, ktera pripravila na snidani >"caj" sobe, svym dvema detem a me a pote ho dala na talire, k nmu >polozila papir: Karle, jeste barvi, muzes ho pouzit!". Uz je to hodne >let, ale na to nezapomenu. Nevim, co to je, ale napriklad maloktery >kafar by si znovu zalil logrovku, takze proc ten chudak caj? Mozna, >kdyz se do nej nasype spusta cukru a doleje hladinka koncentarem >kyseliny citronove, tak je to asi jedno. SASA > >Diky za prispevek, >sbirka uz se rozrusta, tak lidi vzpominejte. Posledni dny, po velke hadce o >sitka, je konference nejaka umrela, tak snad nebude vadit tohle odlehceny >tema. >Pro vaznejsi ucastniky, tu mam nove tema - Chutove rozdily v druhu caje >podle roku sklizne. Konkretne se mi jedna o Vietnam CHE THAI NGUYEN. Mam ted >doma jeho posledni dve sklizne a je to jako dva druhy caje. Snad by mi to >mohl vysvetlit nekdo z dovozcu. >Diky >V Kristu Milan > > >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Feb 19 09:25:39 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA27392; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 09:25:39 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA27386 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 09:25:37 +0100 Received: from ns.jes.cz (IDENT:root@[194.228.41.66]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA25881 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 09:25:28 +0100 (MET) Received: from default (dial-up004.jes.cz. [194.228.41.123]) by ns.jes.cz (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA07872 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 09:25:17 +0100 Message-ID: <002901be5be1$48d461c0$7d29e4c2@default> From: "Filgorn" To: Subject: Re: Re: Caj: Cajove pytlicky & Ruzova cajovna Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 09:19:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Tak nejak nevim, co je na pytlikovych cajich spatne. To predse neni chyba caje, jestli s nim nekdo zachazi jak s fusekli. A resi to i otazku sitka, a podobne. Ja osobne posuzuji caj hlavne podle toho, jak mi u nej je, a ne co je to za sortu, ktery rok, a v cem byl zabaleny. Filgorn -----Původní zpráva----- Od: Pavel Hlavacek Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz Datum: 18. února 1999 14:10 Předmět: Re: Caj: Cajove pytlicky & Ruzova cajovna >> dneska jsem si rano pri vstavani pustil televizi a bezel tam nejakej porad >> pro zensky, myslim ze Sama doma. Jako host tam byl nekdo z Ruzove cajovny >> (na titulku bylo "cajovy znalec") a taky jsem si vsiml, jak kamera >> zoomovala po stole, ze tam >> meli krabicky s pytlikovyma cajema, ktere vyrabi primo ona cajovna. Mate >> nekdo s nima nejaky zkusenosti? Je tam nejaky rozdil v kvalite oproti >> jinym pytlikovym cajum? Onen pan rikal, ze kvalita pylikovych caju jde >> nahoru (kvuli rostouci konkurenci se sypanymi). Myslite ze ma aspon >> trochu pravdu nebo jenom blafuje a dela si reklamu na svy caje. > > Nemuzu si pomoct, ale kvalite sypanych caju se to muze opravdu jen >blizit uz z principu. Chutove...no, snad, proc ne, nakonec. Pokud vezmu >kvalitni treba Bai Hao a dam ho do pytliku, bude to proste kvalitni >pytlikovy caj. Ale sam ten proces udelani caje, ten tomu dava uplne jinou >formu. Pytlikovy caj proste hodim do vody a muzu dal delat neco jineho, >pak pytlik jen vytahnu a hotovo ... no a ani moc nevim, ze jsem si vlastne >udelal caj. Znam to od bratra, ktery o sypanych cajich rovnou rekl, ze >jeho zivot je prilis rychly na to, aby se mohl zdrzovat pripravou caje. > Ale na druhou stranu, co si kdo z toho vezme, to je jeho vec. Je pravda, >ze ja v praci treba nemam moc podminky na pripravu caje "trikonvickovym" >stylem a tak bych pro tuto vyjimku kvalitni pytlikovy uvital, ale na to mi >zase to, co zatim je na trhu, bohate postacuje. > >No, dost o tom a dame si radeji caj. >Pavel > > >mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz >http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek > >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Feb 19 10:55:27 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA27752; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 10:55:27 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA27749 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 10:55:27 +0100 Received: from kanec.linux (kanec.plemdat.czn.cz [194.213.228.200]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA29107 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 10:55:22 +0100 (MET) Received: from milan (milan.plemdat.czn.cz [223.45.6.152]) by kanec.linux (8.8.5/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id KAA26463 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 10:54:29 +0100 Message-ID: <001701be5bed$f76bb380$98062ddf@milan> From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Milan_=C8ervenka?=" To: Subject: Re: Re: Caj: Re: Mano, uvar caj. Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 10:55:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz >Pozor na Vietnamske rostlinne zbozi (vsechno), obvykle jeste obsahuji >rezidua z valky, a asi nestoji za to otravovat se Agent Orange-m. >Filgorn Je fakt, ze nevim, jestli zrovna tahle oblast lezi nekde pobliz Ho-ci Minhovy stezky, ale i tak bych na tom nebyl tak spatne jako ty chudaci vod aeromobilni divize co se koupali v sudech od A.O. (vlastne i od A.W. a A.B.) Nemam informace, jestli se herbicidy pouzivali i na cajove plantaze, ale cilem byly spise zakladni plodiny zajistujici preziti, a ty tisice galonu defoliantu kterejma se proplachovala dzungle uz sou stejne v celosvetovym obehu. V Kristu Milan >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Feb 19 11:46:33 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA27915; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 11:46:33 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA27912 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 11:46:32 +0100 From: SEVEROVA@gytool.cz Received: from power.ol.cesnet.cz ([194.212.160.147]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA31703 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 11:46:32 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailer.gytool.cz ([194.212.37.22]) by power.ol.cesnet.cz (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id LAA20430 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 11:34:16 +0100 (NFT) Received: from GH-2/SpoolDir by mailer.gytool.cz (Mercury 1.44); 19 Feb 99 11:46:30 MET +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by GH-2 (Mercury 1.44); 19 Feb 99 11:46:09 MET +0100 Organization: Gymnazium v Olomouci-Hejcine, CZ To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 11:46:08 MET +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Caj: Cajove pytlicky & Ruzova cajovna X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.40 Message-ID: <3AB9EB5BDC@mailer.gytool.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ahoj, dneska jsem si rano pri vstavani pustil televizi a bezel tam nejakej porad pro zensky, myslim ze Sama doma. Jako host tam byl nekdo z Ruzove cajovny (na titulku bylo "cajovy znalec") a taky jsem si vsiml, jak kamera zoomovala po stole, ze tam meli krabicky s pytlikovyma cajema, ktere vyrabi primo ona cajovna. Mate nekdo s nima nejaky zkusenosti? Je tam nejaky rozdil v kvalite oproti jinym pytlikovym cajum? Onen pan rikal, ze kvalita pylikovych caju jde nahoru (kvuli rostouci konkurenci se sypanymi). Myslite ze ma aspon trochu pravdu nebo jenom blafuje a dela si reklamu na svy caje. Cau Vasek Myslim, ze trochu pravdu ma, protoze konkurence je. Ale pytlik je fakt dobrej akorat do prace, kdyz neni cas. Caj se ma prozit!!!! Aspon me by jinak nechutnal. Pytlikovy je pitny na zizen, ale ne na pohodu. Aspon muj nazor, nevnucuji. SASA >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Feb 19 11:50:31 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA27974; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 11:50:31 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA27970 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 11:50:30 +0100 From: SEVEROVA@gytool.cz Received: from power.ol.cesnet.cz ([194.212.160.147]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA31305 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 11:50:30 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailer.gytool.cz ([194.212.37.22]) by power.ol.cesnet.cz (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id LAA22240 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 11:38:16 +0100 (NFT) Received: from GH-2/SpoolDir by mailer.gytool.cz (Mercury 1.44); 19 Feb 99 11:50:29 MET +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by GH-2 (Mercury 1.44); 19 Feb 99 11:50:01 MET +0100 Organization: Gymnazium v Olomouci-Hejcine, CZ To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 11:49:56 MET +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Caj: Nova kniha o caji ?? X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.40 Message-ID: <3ACA633CFF@mailer.gytool.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz P.S. byl jsem u Rotta v praze a koukal jsem kolik tam maji caju, takovou prodejnu mit nekdy na internetu to by bylo ;-) akova prodejna na internetu fakt je!!!!! Uz jsem o ni psala. Nechci delat reklamu, ale i prakticka zkusenost s dobirkou je veskrze kladna. Je to starnka Cajovy list . SASA >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Feb 19 12:06:16 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA28183; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 12:06:16 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA28180 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 12:06:16 +0100 Received: from ms.vzh.cz (root@[195.47.8.241]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA32409 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 12:06:14 +0100 (MET) Received: from igx (proxy.vzh.cz [195.47.8.253]) by ms.vzh.cz (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA20009 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 13:08:51 +0100 Message-ID: <002501be5bf7$f93b10c0$0902000a@igx.vzh.cz> From: "St. Gerich" To: Subject: Re: Re: Caj: Nova kniha o caji ?? Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 12:07:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz -----Původní zpráva----- Od: SEVEROVA@gytool.cz Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz Datum: 19. února 1999 12:57 Předmět: Re: Caj: Nova kniha o caji ?? >P.S. byl jsem u Rotta v praze a koukal jsem kolik tam maji caju, takovou >prodejnu mit nekdy na internetu to by bylo ;-) >akova prodejna na internetu fakt je!!!!! Uz jsem o ni psala. Nechci >delat reklamu, ale i prakticka zkusenost s dobirkou je veskrze >kladna. Je to starnka Cajovy list . SASA rovnez s ni mam velmi kladne zkusenosti >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Feb 19 21:41:07 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA30275; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 21:41:07 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA30272 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 21:41:05 +0100 Received: from conan.asysijd.cz (mailexim@server.asysijd.cz [195.75.66.161]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA12684 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 21:41:04 +0100 (MET) Received: from kol-dial6.asysijd.cz (asysijd.cz) [195.75.66.16] by conan.asysijd.cz with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1 (Debian)) id 10DwjR-0005US-00; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 21:41:05 +0100 Message-ID: <36CD78DC.F87F102E@asysijd.cz> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 15:44:44 +0100 From: Jan Bourek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Mano, uvar caj. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Kdyz varna konvice vzdycha po kuchyni, venku jsou uz snehove zaveje > a pan Stolfa teprve domackava budika aby mohl presne ve svych sest > ctyricetpet oblict salu, capku, kabat a jit na to. V ulici je plno > tripodlaznich panelaku a pred kazdym je halda cerstveho i stareho > snehu, nejaky auto a nejaky popelnice. Snih neni odklizenej. Pan > Stolfa mizi z line vyzarovaneho mista na podlaze pres ulici stojicich > lamp. Zveda se mu zaludek. Mano,..  takovyho srani s ranem, posranej > uklid snehu, .. a na Milese zase vysel cistej chodnik a na mne .. > nejmin tricet cisel a chumeli jak v prdeli .. varis uz?! Vratil se do > osvicenych dvou ctverecnich metru, zhodnotil situaci a ted si > natahuje fusekle. >   Zvedl se ji zaludek, tak tise prosla kolem pootevrenych dveri > loznice do kuchyne, az ke konvici, vypla ji, hodila tam pytlik, ten > pekne zaretizkoval, jak ho ta voda priskvarila, ona se usmala, > protoze se ji to  docela libilo. Lzici ho mackala na rozpalenou > spiralu, at je pekne silny, at ma barvu. Provazek ji sklouzl do horke > vody. >   Delej prece at ti to nestydne, zazpivala, jak ji horko na prstech > popalilo, povytahla provazek a pytlik radsi jeste trochu zmackla, > aby i posledni kapicka caje padla do konvice a zbylou > nedefinovatelnou hmotu bez zajmu odhodila na pootevreny kos. Pytlik > sklouzl hladove dovnitr a kdyz Stolfa dopil preslazenou brecku, jen > nepatrny lesk te hladove cesticky upominal na cajove zvyky tehle > ceske, uplne obycejne rodiny. Odesla na toaletu.. Bore da,jiz pri cteni prvniho odstavce me napadlo, jestli to neni nejaka scena z filmu od Romana Polanskeho, to zvedani zaludku a tak mi pripomelo film HNUS. A docela me prepadla nalada jako v Lynchove Mazaci hlave. No kdyz uz jsme u filmu, taky se vzdy tesite, pokud jste napriklad na predstaveni filmoveho klubu a film je napr japonsky, ze uvidite (ovsem pokud se to trochu vaze k filmu) poradne piti caje? Uz jednou jsem tu psal o filmu, kde se pil caj v kavkazske cajovne. To me vzdy silene potesi, kdyz to vidim Na vlastni oci (c) a v podstate realne. Je to podobne jako kdyz v Rasomonovi pozoruju samurajske mece (to me tyke zajima). *JB* >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Sat Feb 20 16:12:51 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA31962; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 16:12:51 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA31959 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 16:12:49 +0100 Received: from ns1.ipnet.cz (ns1.ipnet.cz [212.20.64.2]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA18552 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 16:12:49 +0100 (MET) Received: from pent-200 (a5r1-pribram.ipnet.cz [212.20.68.58]) by ns1.ipnet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA12375 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 16:12:23 +0100 Message-ID: <000001be5ce2$8fa0d8c0$3a4414d4@pent-200> From: "BENT" To: "cajovnik" Subject: Caj: kniha o caji Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 15:50:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0094_01BE5CE8.C31D54C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0094_01BE5CE8.C31D54C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Preji Vam dobry Den Mam nyni tu cest, milim cojovnikum oznamiti, zahajeni prodeje = ocekavane " Knihy o caji " sepsane Kakuzo Okakurou. Kniha jest prekladem vazene Dity Horakove a vychazi nakladatelstvim = Brody v omezenem mnozstvi 1000 vytisku. Tento spis jest doprovozen kaligrafii Icinariho Haidzi, zivotopisem = autora od Pi Dity Nymburske, a velmi praktickym dovetkem mistra = hrncirskeho Pana Martina Hnilo, kterak se na trhu zbozi keramickeho = orjentovat. Zadejte ji u Vasich ctenych knihkupcu v doporucene cene 119Kc Timto Vam tuto beletrii doporucuji a na ni Vas odkazuji. Coby dovetek k zhora uvedenemu bych rad upozornil na prodej neglazovane = keramiky (souprav i kusu jednotlivych) obchodem AMANA (Pha-Zahoranskeho = ul.), ci cajovym clubem " Na zemi"(Pb-Prazska ul.) =20 vrelym pozdravem p.t.cajovnikum=20 = =20 = Tom ------=_NextPart_000_0094_01BE5CE8.C31D54C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Preji Vam dobry Den
 Mam nyni tu cest, milim = cojovnikum oznamiti,=20 zahajeni prodeje   ocekavane  "  Knihy o = caji =20 "  sepsane   Kakuzo Okakurou.
Kniha jest  prekladem = vazene  Dity=20 Horakove  a  vychazi nakladatelstvim Brody v  omezenem=20 mnozstvi  1000 vytisku.
Tento spis jest doprovozen kaligrafii = Icinariho=20 Haidzi, zivotopisem  autora od = Pi Dity=20 Nymburske, a velmi praktickym dovetkem mistra hrncirskeho Pana Martina = Hnilo,=20 kterak se na trhu zbozi keramickeho orjentovat.
Zadejte ji u Vasich ctenych knihkupcu = v doporucene=20 cene 119Kc
      Timto = Vam tuto=20 beletrii doporucuji a na ni Vas odkazuji.
 
Coby dovetek k zhora uvedenemu bych = rad upozornil=20 na prodej neglazovane keramiky (souprav i kusu jednotlivych) obchodem = AMANA=20 (Pha-Zahoranskeho ul.), ci cajovym clubem " Na = zemi"(Pb-Prazska=20 ul.)
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------=_NextPart_000_0094_01BE5CE8.C31D54C0-- >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Sun Feb 21 19:54:35 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA01836; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 19:54:35 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA01833 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 19:54:34 +0100 Received: from ns.mas.cz (root@ns.mas.cz [194.212.135.2]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA27517 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 19:54:33 +0100 (MET) Received: from cigi (p0l4h1.boskowan.cz [194.212.135.146]) by ns.mas.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA02524 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 19:54:31 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <004701be5dcb$9d445d00$9287d4c2@cigi.mas.cz> From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?VuFjbGF2IENpa+Fu?=" To: Subject: Re: Re: Caj: Nova kniha o caji ?? Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 19:26:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz >>P.S. byl jsem u Rotta v praze a koukal jsem kolik tam maji caju, takovou >>prodejnu mit nekdy na internetu to by bylo ;-) > >>akova prodejna na internetu fakt je!!!!! Uz jsem o ni psala. Nechci >>delat reklamu, ale i prakticka zkusenost s dobirkou je veskrze >>kladna. Je to starnka Cajovy list . SASA >rovnez s ni mam velmi kladne zkusenosti Dekuji za pochvalu, ktere si velice vazim. V soucasne dobe se na trhu ukázaly dve knihy s cajovou tematikou a co nevidet bude v dotisku kniha Vsechny caje ciny, kterou ja osobne povazuji zatim za nejlepsi co bylo vydano. Pokud ma nekdo zajem vse naleznete na teto strance : http://www.cajovna.cz/katalog.htm#Knihy - pokud by tato reklamka nekomu vadila, jiz predem se omlouvam. Vaclav Cikan Cajovy List - http://www.cajovna.cz Tea-Mail - cigi@cajovna.cz >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Feb 23 07:39:19 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA06251; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 07:39:19 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA06248 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 07:39:17 +0100 Received: from unix.tpc.cz (unix.tpc.cz [194.212.187.5]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA09920 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 07:39:16 +0100 (MET) Received: from atlas.cz (pc14.tpc.cz [194.212.187.177]) by unix.tpc.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8/TPC Jicin/Antispam) with ESMTP id HAA05700 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 07:39:16 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <36D24CCD.3A5A0273@atlas.cz> Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 07:38:05 +0100 From: John Killer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Zeleny - Cerny Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Co vase zkusenosti se zelenym, nebo cernym cajem? Kteremu davate prednost a proc? >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Feb 23 07:42:13 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA06268; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 07:42:13 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA06265 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 07:42:12 +0100 Received: from smtp.atlas.cz (smtp.atlas.cz [195.119.187.150]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA07532 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 07:42:12 +0100 (MET) Received: from atlas.cz ([194.212.187.177]) by smtp.atlas.cz with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1875.185.18); Tue, 23 Feb 1999 07:40:02 +0100 Message-ID: <36D24D7D.58D64F5@atlas.cz> Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 07:41:01 +0100 From: John Killer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Zeleny - Cerny Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Co vase zkusenosti se zelenym, nebo cernym cajem? Kteremu davate prednost a proc? >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Feb 23 07:43:03 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA06281; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 07:43:03 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA06278 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 07:43:02 +0100 Received: from smtp.atlas.cz (smtp.atlas.cz [195.119.187.150]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA10008 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 07:43:01 +0100 (MET) Received: from atlas.cz ([194.212.187.177]) by smtp.atlas.cz with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1875.185.18); Tue, 23 Feb 1999 07:40:51 +0100 Message-ID: <36D24DAF.7777276A@atlas.cz> Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 07:41:51 +0100 From: John Killer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Zeleny - Cerny Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Co vase zkusenosti se zelenym, nebo cernym cajem? Kteremu davate prednost a proc? >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Feb 23 10:30:47 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA07006; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 10:30:47 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA07003 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 10:30:44 +0100 Received: from ns.jes.cz (IDENT:root@[194.228.41.66]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA15593 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 10:30:31 +0100 (MET) Received: from default (dial-up005.jes.cz. [194.228.41.122]) by ns.jes.cz (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA01466 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 10:30:24 +0100 Message-ID: <001601be5f0f$0b46f3a0$7a29e4c2@default> From: "=?iso-8859-2?Q?Hnut=ED_Brontosaurus?=" To: Subject: Caj: Re: Zeleny - Cerny Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 10:29:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Podle chuti. Na ktery mam zalusk, ten si dam (pokud mam na vyber :-))) Filgorn -----Původní zpráva----- Od: John Killer Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz Datum: 23. února 1999 7:52 Předmět: Caj: Zeleny - Cerny >Co vase zkusenosti se zelenym, nebo cernym cajem? Kteremu davate >prednost a proc? >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Feb 23 10:59:17 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA07133; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 10:59:17 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA07130 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 10:59:16 +0100 Received: from kanec.linux (kanec.plemdat.czn.cz [194.213.228.200]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA17023 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 10:58:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from milan (milan.plemdat.czn.cz [223.45.6.152]) by kanec.linux (8.8.5/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id KAA15357 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 10:57:40 +0100 Message-ID: <003501be5f13$175e83c0$98062ddf@milan> From: "=?iso-8859-2?Q?Milan_=C8ervenka?=" To: Subject: Caj: Re: Zeleny - Cerny Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 10:58:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz >Co vase zkusenosti se zelenym, nebo cernym cajem? Kteremu davate >prednost a proc? Caj Johane, ja osobne, pokud jsem takto tazan, musim rict, ze neuprednostnuju ani jeden z tebou zminenych typu. Mam ale sve oblibene sorty v ramci vyse zminenych typu. Napr. mezi cervenymi keemun, nepal, mezi tmavymi pu erh, mezi polofermentovanymi shui sen, mezi bilymi pai mu tan, mezi zelenymi lun ting atd. Jinak ale delim caje spis na ty co mi chutnaj (a ktery si taky dovoluju doporučit ostatnim) a ty ostatni. V Kristu Milan >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Feb 23 11:17:51 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA07227; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 11:17:51 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA07224 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 11:17:50 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA17669 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 11:17:49 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29400 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 11:17:49 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 23 Feb 99 11:17:50 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 23 Feb 99 11:17:35 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 11:17:25 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Zeleny - Cerny X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <2036E8F339E@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Co vase zkusenosti se zelenym, nebo cernym cajem? Kteremu davate > prednost a proc? Kdyz uz se trikrat ptas (prislo mi to trikrat), trikrat odpovim. Zelenemu zelenemu zelenemu, ale i polozelenemu polozelenemu polozelenemu a nekdy i cernemu cernemu. Tomu jen dvakrat, z cehoz je videt, ze spise zelene a polozelene. Proc? Hezka otazka. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Feb 23 11:46:26 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA07298; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 11:46:26 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA07295 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 11:46:25 +0100 From: jaslo@gratex.sk Received: from ns.gtinet.sk (IDENT:root@ns.gtinet.sk [195.98.128.20]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA18414 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 11:46:24 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.gratex.sk (mail.gratex.sk [195.98.128.40]) by ns.gtinet.sk with ESMTP id LAA08182 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 11:46:22 +0100 Received: by SENTINEL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 11:46:22 +0100 Message-ID: To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: RE: Re: Zeleny - Cerny Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 11:46:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id LAA07296 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Rano cierny (cejlonske nemam velmi rad, aspon tie, co som skusal, maju vela trieslovin), zvysok dna zelene. Mam rad japonske zelene, vyskusal som asi 7 druhov, nespecializuje sa niekto na ne? Ako sa robi slahany caj? Jaslo (jaslo@gratex.sk) -----Original Message----- From: Hnutí Brontosaurus [mailto:hbront@jes.cz] Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 10:30 AM To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Re: Zeleny - Cerny Podle chuti. Na ktery mam zalusk, ten si dam (pokud mam na vyber :-))) Filgorn -----Původní zpráva----- Od: John Killer Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz Datum: 23. února 1999 7:52 Předmět: Caj: Zeleny - Cerny >Co vase zkusenosti se zelenym, nebo cernym cajem? Kteremu davate >prednost a proc? >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Feb 23 14:14:45 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA08135; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 14:14:45 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA08132 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 14:14:44 +0100 Received: from juno.fek.zcu.cz (juno.fek.zcu.cz [147.228.190.20]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA28211 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 14:14:42 +0100 (MET) Received: from fek.zcu.cz (noe.fek.zcu.cz [147.228.190.5]) by juno.fek.zcu.cz with ESMTP id OAA20263 (8.8.8/IDA-1.7 for ); Tue, 23 Feb 1999 14:14:41 +0100 Received: from NOE/SpoolDir by fek.zcu.cz (Mercury 1.43); 23 Feb 99 14:09:13 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by NOE (Mercury 1.43); 23 Feb 99 14:08:55 +0100 From: "mcm. Michal Dlouhy" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 14:08:49 -0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Caj: Je nebo neni? X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.40 Message-ID: Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ahoj, chci se zeptat, je-li Cajovy dychanek urcen jen diskusim, vymenam nazoru, informaci, ..nebo jestli ma i neco "navic", je-li skutecne dychankem, tak jak mu rozumim, tedy mistem "setkani" osobnosti, ve kterem se, tak jako u tkani tkanin, se-tkaji pritomne osoby, ve kterem mezi nimi vznika pouto a oni se navzajem sobe stanou blizsimi a pak si i o sobe troufnou neco ostatnim sdelit, zkratka se takhle trochu tezkopadne ptam, jestli je Cajovy dychanek i mistem uverejnovani poezie, prozi a jineho osobna, jestli je skutecne hoden sveho jmena. Jsem ucastnikem Cajoveho dychanku jen pidi chvilku a tak nevim, jestli se jeho vlnky uz necim takovym zavlnily. Rad bych aby se hladiny vlnily, aby se vlnky menily v mohutne vlny a v boure, ktere dokazi svou silou hladit skaly a menit krajiny. Nelze predpokladat, ze nezne cajove vlnky jsou stejne drave jako nezkrotne vlny v morske bouri. A presto se domnivam, ze sila takovychto skromnych vlnek cajovych je nesmirna a proto at prestane byt cajovy dychanek vlnolamem (byl-li), at je nezkroceny jako more, at je skutecnym Cajovym Dychankem. Nadherne posezeni s cajem michal >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Feb 23 14:21:09 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA08162; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 14:21:09 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA08159 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 14:21:08 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA28458 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 14:21:06 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21213 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 14:21:02 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 23 Feb 99 14:21:03 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 23 Feb 99 14:20:35 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 14:20:35 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: RE: Re: Zeleny - Cerny X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <2067B6D5D89@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Mam rad japonske zelene, vyskusal som asi 7 druhov, nespecializuje sa > niekto na ne? Zelene japonske jsou skvele caje, ale uz je mam jako svatecni. Kdyz jsem je pil moc, zacaly me uvnitr stahovat. A tak uz jen obcas. Ale o to vice si pochutnam (vyjimku tvori caje japonske zelene prazene). Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Feb 23 14:30:42 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA08227; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 14:30:42 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA08224 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 14:30:42 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA28838 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 14:30:41 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA22116 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 14:30:40 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 23 Feb 99 14:30:41 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 23 Feb 99 14:30:16 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 14:30:10 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Je nebo neni? X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <206A4BE0D9A@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Ahoj, > chci se zeptat, je-li Cajovy dychanek urcen jen diskusim, vymenam > nazoru, informaci, ..nebo jestli ma i neco "navic", je-li skutecne > .................................................. > > at prestane byt cajovy dychanek vlnolamem (byl-li), at je > nezkroceny jako more, at je skutecnym Cajovym Dychankem. Je skutecne jako more. Chvilku bezvetri, jemny vanek, slunicko a pak nahle vlny jako dum, tsunami, obcas i zatazeno, kdo to nevydrzi, toho spolkne, kdo ano, pluje dal. Zkus to stejne jako na mori ... vypust a cekej, priprav se na nasledky a uvidis. Mimochodem Cajovy Dychanek s velkym D bych si predstavoval jako hromadu velkeho Ticha ... coz by obzvlast na Internetu bylo zajimave. No, ale u nekterych konferenci to ani neni nic vyjimecneho :-) > Nadherne posezeni s cajem Tobe take tak Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Feb 23 14:45:47 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA08288; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 14:45:47 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA08285 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 14:45:46 +0100 Received: from kiv.zcu.cz (ur404p01-rek.rek.zcu.cz [147.228.71.108]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA29860 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 14:45:46 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <36D2B10A.E5541F39@kiv.zcu.cz> Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 14:45:46 +0100 From: Pavel Baxa Organization: ZCU Plzen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: cs,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Je nebo neni? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz "mcm. Michal Dlouhy" wrote: > > Ahoj, > chci se zeptat, ... zkratka se takhle > trochu tezkopadne ptam, jestli je Cajovy dychanek i mistem > uverejnovani poezie, prozi a jineho osobna, jestli je skutecne hoden > sveho jmena. > > Jsem ucastnikem Cajoveho dychanku jen pidi chvilku a tak nevim, > jestli se jeho vlnky uz necim takovym zavlnily. Zavlnily. Lehce. Prvni pokusy se objevily v dubnu lonskeho roku, dalsi pres leto. Naposledy se tu objevilo nekolik haiku od nedavno zesnuleho (odhlasivsiho se) Saska. Nuze - dychni! Pavel Baxa >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Feb 23 15:36:57 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA08480; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 15:36:57 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA08477 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 15:36:56 +0100 From: john@tpc.cz Received: from unix.tpc.cz (unix.tpc.cz [194.212.187.5]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA00339 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 15:36:55 +0100 (MET) Received: from tpc.tpc.cz (tpc.tpc.cz [194.212.187.3]) by unix.tpc.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8/TPC Jicin/Antispam) with ESMTP id PAA22038 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 15:36:54 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199902231436.PAA22038@unix.tpc.cz> Received: from TPC/SpoolDir by tpc.tpc.cz (Mercury 1.43); 23 Feb 99 15:35:33 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by TPC (Mercury 1.43); 23 Feb 99 15:35:13 +0100 Organization: TPC Ltd. To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 15:35:06 MET+1MEST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Caj: RE: Re: Zeleny - Cerny In-reply-to: <2067B6D5D89@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Zelene japonske jsou skvele caje, ale uz je mam jako svatecni. Kdyz jsem > je pil moc, zacaly me uvnitr stahovat. A tak uz jen obcas. Ale o to vice > si pochutnam (vyjimku tvori caje japonske zelene prazene). > Ze zacatku jsem mel stejne problemy jako ty, ale od te doby si delam caje slabsi. Musim rict ze si je vychytnam vice. >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Feb 23 15:54:39 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA08553; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 15:54:39 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA08550 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 15:54:39 +0100 Received: from juno.fek.zcu.cz (juno.fek.zcu.cz [147.228.190.20]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA01155 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 15:54:37 +0100 (MET) Received: from fek.zcu.cz (noe.fek.zcu.cz [147.228.190.5]) by juno.fek.zcu.cz with ESMTP id PAA22367 (8.8.8/IDA-1.7 for ); Tue, 23 Feb 1999 15:54:34 +0100 Received: from NOE/SpoolDir by fek.zcu.cz (Mercury 1.43); 23 Feb 99 15:49:06 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by NOE (Mercury 1.43); 23 Feb 99 15:48:57 +0100 From: "Michal Dlouhy" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 15:48:49 -0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Caj: Je nebo neni? X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.40 Message-ID: Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Nuze - dychni! > > Pavel Baxa Proc ne - dych! Michal Dlouhy >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Feb 23 18:14:17 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA08872; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 18:14:17 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA08869 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 18:14:11 +0100 From: jaslo@gratex.sk Received: from ns.gtinet.sk (IDENT:root@ns.gtinet.sk [195.98.128.20]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA06090 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 18:14:10 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.gratex.sk (mail.gratex.sk [195.98.128.40]) by ns.gtinet.sk with ESMTP id SAA17781 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 18:14:06 +0100 Received: by SENTINEL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 18:14:05 +0100 Message-ID: To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: RE: Caj: RE: Re: Zeleny - Cerny Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 18:14:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Mne sa tiez zda, ze japonske caje su "noblesnejsie". Aporopos, vie niekto ako sa spracovava kokaicha? Mne to pripomina ihlicie, ake su to vlastne casti rastliny? -----Original Message----- From: john@tpc.cz [mailto:john@tpc.cz] Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 4:35 PM To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: RE: Re: Zeleny - Cerny > Zelene japonske jsou skvele caje, ale uz je mam jako svatecni. Kdyz jsem > je pil moc, zacaly me uvnitr stahovat. A tak uz jen obcas. Ale o to vice > si pochutnam (vyjimku tvori caje japonske zelene prazene). > Ze zacatku jsem mel stejne problemy jako ty, ale od te doby si delam caje slabsi. Musim rict ze si je vychytnam vice. >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Feb 23 19:34:43 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA09304; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 19:34:43 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA09301 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 19:34:42 +0100 Received: from matsrv.math.cas.cz (IDENT:kasal@math-gw.math.cas.cz [147.231.89.66]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA08386 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 19:34:41 +0100 (MET) Received: (from kasal@localhost) by matsrv.math.cas.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA11399; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 19:34:37 +0100 From: Stepan Kasal Message-Id: <199902231834.TAA11399@matsrv.math.cas.cz> Subject: Re: Caj: RE: Re: Zeleny - Cerny To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 19:34:36 +0100 (CET) Cc: cajovna@ksvi.mff.cuni.cz In-Reply-To: from "jaslo@gratex.sk" at Feb 23, 99 06:14:05 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Dobry den, > Mne sa tiez zda, ze japonske caje su "noblesnejsie". Aporopos, vie niekto > ako sa spracovava kokaicha? Mne to pripomina ihlicie, ake su to vlastne > casti rastliny? nejsem mozna nejzdatnejsi z pritomnych, ale mam tu vyhodu, ze prave ted sedim u pocitace. Kokeicha (v prekladu "pevny caj") je zeleny praskovy caj (tedy listy rozemlete na prasek), zpracovany na nejakem strojku do onech nudlicek (ja si to predstavuju jako takovy strojek na maso, do ktereho se cpe bahno vytvorene z toho praskoveho caje. Pokud si nekdo preje Kokeichu, tazeme se, zda pripravit obycejne, ci obradnim zpusobem. Preje-li si host obradni zpusob, houkneme dozadu na pomocnika: "Jednu Kokeichu rozpatlat!". Preji mnoho krasnych zazitku s Japonci, Stepan >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Feb 23 21:18:35 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA09675; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 21:18:35 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA09672 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 21:18:34 +0100 From: jaslo@gratex.sk Received: from ns.gtinet.sk (IDENT:root@ns.gtinet.sk [195.98.128.20]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA09092 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 21:18:33 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.gratex.sk (mail.gratex.sk [195.98.128.40]) by ns.gtinet.sk with ESMTP id VAA19551 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 21:18:32 +0100 Received: by SENTINEL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 21:18:31 +0100 Message-ID: To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Nova cajova zahrada Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 21:18:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id VAA09673 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Vdaka. Bol to jeden z mojich napadov, ale potom som ho zavrhol ako sofistikovany. Ale Japonci su sofistikovani. Chcel som vsak o inom. Rad by som ctene forum pozval na navstevu do mojej cajovej zahrady. V ramci noveho internetoveho magazinu inZine som si otvoril malu rubriku inČajt - http://www.inzine.sk/rubrika.asp?id_rubrika=159. Ja sa citim doma hlavne v hudbe a moja zaluba su fajky (dymky), ale s trochou pomoci priatelov urcite zvladnem aj ten caj. Ved je to napokon jeden svet, co zijeme. Vdaka za pozornost, rad prijmem kriticke poznamky. Marian -----Original Message----- From: Stepan Kasal [mailto:kasal@matsrv.math.cas.cz] Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 7:35 PM To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Cc: cajovna@ksvi.mff.cuni.cz Subject: Re: Caj: RE: Re: Zeleny - Cerny Dobry den, > Mne sa tiez zda, ze japonske caje su "noblesnejsie". Aporopos, vie niekto > ako sa spracovava kokaicha? Mne to pripomina ihlicie, ake su to vlastne > casti rastliny? nejsem mozna nejzdatnejsi z pritomnych, ale mam tu vyhodu, ze prave ted sedim u pocitace. Kokeicha (v prekladu "pevny caj") je zeleny praskovy caj (tedy listy rozemlete na prasek), zpracovany na nejakem strojku do onech nudlicek (ja si to predstavuju jako takovy strojek na maso, do ktereho se cpe bahno vytvorene z toho praskoveho caje. Pokud si nekdo preje Kokeichu, tazeme se, zda pripravit obycejne, ci obradnim zpusobem. Preje-li si host obradni zpusob, houkneme dozadu na pomocnika: "Jednu Kokeichu rozpatlat!". Preji mnoho krasnych zazitku s Japonci, Stepan >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Feb 24 08:05:32 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA10917; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 08:05:32 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA10913 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 08:05:26 +0100 From: john@tpc.cz Received: from unix.tpc.cz (unix.tpc.cz [194.212.187.5]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA18125 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 08:05:25 +0100 (MET) Received: from tpc.tpc.cz (tpc.tpc.cz [194.212.187.3]) by unix.tpc.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8/TPC Jicin/Antispam) with ESMTP id IAA20617 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 08:05:25 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199902240705.IAA20617@unix.tpc.cz> Received: from TPC/SpoolDir by tpc.tpc.cz (Mercury 1.43); 24 Feb 99 08:04:02 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by TPC (Mercury 1.43); 24 Feb 99 08:03:36 +0100 Organization: TPC Ltd. To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 08:03:30 MET+1MEST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: Caj: Re: Zeleny - Cerny In-reply-to: <003501be5f13$175e83c0$98062ddf@milan> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-printable to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id IAA10915 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Jinak ale delim caje spis na ty co mi chutnaj (a ktery si taky dovoluju > doporučit ostatnim) a ty ostatni. > V Kristu Milan > Ktere si dovolis doporucit ostatnim?? *** Nejsem tak zkuseny, jako asi vetsina z vas, ale popiste me nekdo bily caj, jeho zpracovanie, popripade slozeni. >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Feb 24 08:41:46 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA11014; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 08:41:46 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA11011 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 08:41:45 +0100 Received: from kanec.linux (kanec.plemdat.czn.cz [194.213.228.200]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA23085 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 08:41:36 +0100 (MET) Received: from milan (milan.plemdat.czn.cz [223.45.6.152]) by kanec.linux (8.8.5/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id IAA20745 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 08:40:43 +0100 Message-ID: <001701be5fc9$21aaa7d0$98062ddf@milan> From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Milan_=C8ervenka?=" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Re: Zeleny - Cerny Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 08:41:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ahoj Johne, caje ktery mi chutnaj, nikomu necpu, ale kdyz se nekdo z pratel pta co si ma dat, tak rad nabidnu zkusenosti mejch chutovejch bunek. Nevakal bych ti doporucit vsechny caje ktery jsem minule jmenoval. >Nejsem tak zkuseny, jako asi vetsina z vas, ale popiste me nekdo bily >caj, jeho zpracovanie, popripade slozeni. Ja taky nejsem nejzkusenejsi, tak podam jen laickou definici. Bily caj se sklada z chlupatych vrcholovych listku cajovniku. Doufam, ze to nekdo dovysvetli, pripadne opravi. Caj v Kristu Milan >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Feb 24 09:03:54 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA11160; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 09:03:54 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA11157 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 09:03:53 +0100 From: LToman@zivpo.cz Received: from zp999a.zivpo.cz (ms.zivpo.cz [195.146.106.228]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA24086 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 09:03:51 +0100 (MET) Received: by ms.zivpo.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 09:03:49 +0100 Message-ID: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A3901395001@PUEX1C1> To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: RE: Caj: Re: Zeleny - Cerny Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 09:03:37 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Ahoj Johne, > caje ktery mi chutnaj, nikomu necpu, ale kdyz se nekdo z > pratel pta co si ma > dat, tak rad nabidnu zkusenosti mejch chutovejch bunek. Tak s timhle uz jsem jednou narazil. Kdyz jsem byl naposled v jedny cajovne a znamej, kterej do cajoven moc nechodi chtel, abych mu neco doporucil, doporucil jsem Pai Mu Tan. Nechutnal mu. Od te doby nechavam vyber zasadne na nich. Galenius >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Feb 24 09:55:12 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA11622; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 09:55:12 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA11619 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 09:55:11 +0100 Received: from kanec.linux (kanec.plemdat.czn.cz [194.213.228.200]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA27053 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 09:55:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from milan (milan.plemdat.czn.cz [223.45.6.152]) by kanec.linux (8.8.5/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id JAA21085 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 09:54:20 +0100 Message-ID: <002a01be5fd3$68830df0$98062ddf@milan> From: "=?iso-8859-2?Q?Milan_=C8ervenka?=" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Re: Zeleny - Cerny Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 09:55:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz -----Původní zpráva----- Od: LToman@zivpo.cz Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz Datum: 24. února 1999 9:29 Předmět: RE: Caj: Re: Zeleny - Cerny >> Ahoj Johne, >> caje ktery mi chutnaj, nikomu necpu, ale kdyz se nekdo z >> pratel pta co si ma >> dat, tak rad nabidnu zkusenosti mejch chutovejch bunek. > >Tak s timhle uz jsem jednou narazil. Kdyz jsem byl naposled v jedny cajovne >a znamej, kterej do cajoven moc nechodi chtel, abych mu neco doporucil, >doporucil jsem Pai Mu Tan. Nechutnal mu. >Od te doby nechavam vyber zasadne na nich. > > Galenius Jo, to mas pravdu. Zapomnel sem napsat, za se vzdycky snazim popsat chut, ale je fakt, ze to nekdy selze. V Kristu Milan >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Feb 24 19:09:19 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA14036; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 19:09:19 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA14033 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 19:09:18 +0100 Received: from gego.cz (ns.gego.cz [195.22.48.254]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA15633 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 19:09:16 +0100 (MET) Received: from WinProxy.anywhere (ppp51.cc.terminal.cz [195.70.133.51]) by gego.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA11182 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 19:09:10 +0100 Received: from 192.168.1.2 by 192.168.1.1 (WinProxy); Wed, 24 Feb 1999 19:07:05 +0100 Message-ID: <00a001be6020$c6c17620$0201a8c0@cajoch.cajovna> From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?SmFuIE38bGxlcg==?=" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Re: Zeleny - Cerny Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 19:09:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz S oznacenim bily caj je malicko potiz tykajici se dvojiho chapani slova bily. A tak nekdo pravi bily a mysli zeleny caj s vysokym obsahem tipsu (White Monkey, Songyang Yinghou, caje se specifikaci White Down (Linyun a jine caje z provincie Guangxi), dokonce jsem to cetl o Tai Mu Long Zhu (... podobny dracim ocim ...)), druhy mysli na zpusob suseni a zpracovani (Pai Mu Tan, Show Mee). A svoje opodstatneni ma asi obe. Ja povazuji za pregnantnejsi oznaceni metody zpracovani, ale s nikym bych se prilis neprel. Doufam, ze me nenarknete z komerce a reklamy (prisaham, ze hlavnim duvodem je lenost), ale dovolim si sem prekopirovat cast jedne knihy (alespon neuvedu nazev), ktera o teto metode zpracovani take pojednava. Pozorni ctenari shledaji nesrovnalosti s originalem, jez jsou dany tim, ze kopiruji z verze pred sinologickymi korekturami. Tim se zaroven omlouvam jazykovym puristum. Citace: Baihao Yinzhen (Paj-chao jin-cen) Název zní dosti pohádkove, ale tento caj skutecne pohádkový je, protoze obsahuje jen výhonky, pokryté bílým chmýrím. Tento vzácný caj, který se vyrábí pouze v Cíne (hlavne v provincii Fujian), se puvodne vyrábel z divoce rostoucích stromu. Pro znalce, kterí se pokou^Úeli dosáhnout samé hranice dokonalosti, nebyly jiz krehké, mladé lístky dost jemné, a tak se rozhodli je získávat, je^Úte nez se stací rozvinout z výhonku. "Cajový císar" dynastie Song?? Hui Zong?? napsal, ze bílý caj má nejojedinelej^Úí a nejjemnej^Úí chut. Povazoval jej za zvlá^Útní druh, odli^Úný od v^Úech ostatních caju. Dnes je vet^Úinou povazován za druh zeleného caje. Bílý caj je dnes mnohem dostupnej^Úí nez dríve. Casto se prodává pod názvem Silvery Tip Pekoe??, coz je varianta názvu tradicního, ale i pod jednodu^Ú^Úími oznaceními China White a Fujian White. Hlavní pestitelskou oblastí je okres Jianyang na severu provincie Fujian. Plne dorostlé výhonky, spojené s nekolika lístky, se sbírají na jare tesne pred otevrením. Dva a pul centimetru dlouhé výhonky se vybírají pro caj nejvybranej^Úí kvality. Pocházejí ze dvou odrud: Shui Hsien?? (Water Sprite??) a Hai Bai?? (Dabai, Big White??). Svinování a fermentace se pri zpracování tohoto caje neprovádí. Lístky jsou zbaveny enzymu naparováním. Po zalití se výhonky v ^Úálku vztycí jako les krápníku. Blede zlutý nápoj má vyvázenou, nasládlou chut. Men^Úí výhonky a lístky jsou surovým materiálem pro výrobu caju Pai Mu Tan?? (Baimudan, White Peony??) a Show Mee?? (Shoumei, Longevity Eyebrow??). Vet^Úí mnozství caje White Peony?? vypadá jako kupa kytic s drobounkými bílými kvety a ^Úedozelenými lístky. Hotový nápoj má jasnou, oranzovozlutou barvu. I tento caj je velice vzácný. Nápoj pripravený ze stríbritých lístku Show Mee?? je svetlé, hnedave oranzové barvy a nasládlé chuti. Bílý caj je povazován za zvlá^Úte úcinný prostredek na snizování horkosti, kompenzování vlivu vlhkosti a povzbuzení trávicí soustavy. Konec citatu. Pro uplnost uvedu, ze paj-chao znamena bily vlas. O bilem caji by se dala uvest nepreberna rada dalsich informaci, ale myslim, ze uz to staci. Caji zdar. Jan. P.S.: Nedavno se kdosi na konferenci ptal na vietnamsky zeleny caj THAI NGUYEN, snad slo rozdily v kvalite. Odpoved je : jak by ne. THAI NGUYEN je jen jmeno mesta (a asi i oblasti) severne od Hanoje v blizkosti hranic s Cinou (provincie Yunnan a Guangxi). Produkuje se tam velke mnozstvi ruznorodych druhu a trid caje. Nektere z nich jsou skutecne prvotridni, jine nestoji za moc. Tak uz to chodi. Vice nez kdy jindy (snad az na Darjeeling) plati: neverit svym vlastnim ocim ! Ochutnat! (Toto heslo povazuji za zcela universalni). -----Původní zpráva----- Od: Milan Červenka Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz Datum: 24. února 1999 8:44 Předmět: Re: Caj: Re: Zeleny - Cerny >Ja taky nejsem nejzkusenejsi, tak podam jen laickou definici. Bily caj se >sklada z chlupatych vrcholovych listku cajovniku. Doufam, ze to nekdo >dovysvetli, pripadne opravi. > >Caj v Kristu Milan > >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Feb 24 20:16:12 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA14311; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 20:16:12 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA14308 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 20:16:11 +0100 Received: from conan.asysijd.cz (mailexim@server.asysijd.cz [195.75.66.161]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA20822 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 20:16:09 +0100 (MET) Received: from kol-dial7.asysijd.cz (asysijd.cz) [195.75.66.17] by conan.asysijd.cz with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1 (Debian)) id 10Fjmw-00061b-00; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 20:16:07 +0100 Message-ID: <36D44E44.2E14EE0E@asysijd.cz> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 20:08:52 +0100 From: Jan Bourek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: - Cajovy Dychanek - Subject: Caj: Mam Yixing Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Bore da, musim Vam s potesenim oznamiti, ze dnes jsem zakoupil Ising konvicku. Prekrasna. Bohuzel nemam moc casu a tak se o jejich vnadech rozepisi zitra. Jsem velmi stastny. *JB* >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Feb 25 08:00:59 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA15653; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 08:00:59 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA15650 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 08:00:58 +0100 Received: from kanec.linux (kanec.plemdat.czn.cz [194.213.228.200]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA27769 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 08:00:54 +0100 (MET) Received: from milan (milan.plemdat.czn.cz [223.45.6.152]) by kanec.linux (8.8.5/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id IAA26208 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 08:00:04 +0100 Message-ID: <000801be608c$9f2fcaf0$98062ddf@milan> From: "=?iso-8859-2?Q?Milan_=C8ervenka?=" To: Subject: Caj: Re: Mam Yixing Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 08:01:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz >Bore da, >musim Vam s potesenim oznamiti, ze dnes jsem zakoupil Ising konvicku. >Prekrasna. Bohuzel nemam moc casu a tak se o jejich vnadech rozepisi >zitra. Jsem velmi stastny. > >*JB* Blahopreji ke konvicce. Podle stylizace mejlu to vypada jako by se ti narodila dcera. Takze at ti konvicka prosperuje a caj ti nikdy nezhorkne. Praje v Kristu Milan >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Feb 25 10:51:28 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA16067; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 10:51:28 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA16064 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 10:51:27 +0100 Received: from aron.ch.cesnet.cz ([194.108.93.200]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA01291 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 10:51:26 +0100 (MET) Received: from jessica.gymcheb.hiedu.cz ([194.108.78.162]) by aron.ch.cesnet.cz (8.8.8/8.8.4) with ESMTP id KAA17170; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 10:51:05 +0100 Received: from JESSICA/SpoolDir by jessica.gymcheb.hiedu.cz (Mercury 1.21); 25 Feb 99 10:50:01 MET-DST Received: from SpoolDir by JESSICA (Mercury 1.30); 25 Feb 99 10:49:49 MET-DST From: "Lukas Vrba" To: "=?iso-8859-2?Q?Milan_=C8ervenka?=" , caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 10:49:43 MET-DST Subject: Re: Caj: Re: Mam Yixing X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1a) Message-ID: <1F9A8661F@jessica.gymcheb.hiedu.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Od: "=?iso-8859-2?Q?Milan_=C8ervenka?=" > Komu: > Vec: Caj: Re: Mam Yixing > Datum odeslani: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 08:01:09 +0100 > Odpoved na: caj@dione.zcu.cz > >Bore da, > >musim Vam s potesenim oznamiti, ze dnes jsem zakoupil Ising konvicku. > >Prekrasna. Bohuzel nemam moc casu a tak se o jejich vnadech rozepisi > >zitra. Jsem velmi stastny. > > > >*JB* > > Blahopreji ke konvicce. Podle stylizace mejlu to vypada jako by se ti > narodila dcera. Takze at ti konvicka prosperuje a caj ti nikdy nezhorkne. > Praje v Kristu Milan > Pripojuji se k blahoprani, take jsem mel takovou radost, kdyz jsem videl moji prvni konvicku. s pozdravem Lukas >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Feb 25 10:59:05 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA16125; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 10:59:05 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA16122 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 10:59:05 +0100 From: LToman@zivpo.cz Received: from zp999a.zivpo.cz (ms.zivpo.cz [195.146.106.228]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA02827 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 10:59:03 +0100 (MET) Received: by ms.zivpo.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 10:58:59 +0100 Message-ID: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A390139500E@PUEX1C1> To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: RE: Caj: Re: Mam Yixing Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 10:59:03 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > >Bore da, > > >musim Vam s potesenim oznamiti, ze dnes jsem zakoupil > Ising konvicku. > > >Prekrasna. Bohuzel nemam moc casu a tak se o jejich > vnadech rozepisi > > >zitra. Jsem velmi stastny. > > > > > >*JB* > > > > Blahopreji ke konvicce. Podle stylizace mejlu to vypada > jako by se ti > > narodila dcera. Takze at ti konvicka prosperuje a caj ti > nikdy nezhorkne. > > Praje v Kristu Milan > > > Pripojuji se k blahoprani, take jsem mel takovou radost, kdyz > jsem videl > moji prvni konvicku. > s pozdravem Lukas > Taky mi nezbyva nez se pripojit. Uzij si ji ve zdravi... Galenius >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Feb 25 11:21:25 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA16333; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 11:21:25 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA16330 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 11:21:23 +0100 From: john@tpc.cz Received: from unix.tpc.cz (unix.tpc.cz [194.212.187.5]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA03846 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 11:21:21 +0100 (MET) Received: from tpc.tpc.cz (tpc.tpc.cz [194.212.187.3]) by unix.tpc.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8/TPC Jicin/Antispam) with ESMTP id LAA10473 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 11:21:21 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199902251021.LAA10473@unix.tpc.cz> Received: from TPC/SpoolDir by tpc.tpc.cz (Mercury 1.43); 25 Feb 99 11:19:58 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by TPC (Mercury 1.43); 25 Feb 99 11:19:51 +0100 Organization: TPC Ltd. To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 11:19:50 MET+1MEST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: Caj: Re: Zeleny - Cerny In-reply-to: <00a001be6020$c6c17620$0201a8c0@cajoch.cajovna> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-printable to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id LAA16331 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > From: "R¤´$×é P ^A" > To: > Subject: Re: Caj: Re: Zeleny - Cerny > Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 19:09:09 +0100 > Reply-to: caj@dione.zcu.cz > S oznacenim bily caj je malicko potiz tykajici se dvojiho chapani slova > bily. A tak nekdo pravi bily a mysli zeleny caj s vysokym obsahem tipsu Tady bych se jeste chtel zeptat na prave tips. O co jde ? Jinak dik za dost podrobny popis. Verim ze potesil i jine, kteri dosud jen tusili nebo tapali o tom co je bily caj. U nas v cajovne jsem ho videl, jednalo se prave o Draci Oci, ale prekvapila me cena 10dkg - 300,- (rucne zpracovany, strojem zpracovany asi za 180,-) > (White Monkey, Songyang Yinghou, caje se specifikaci White Down (Linyun a > jine caje z provincie Guangxi), dokonce jsem to cetl o Tai Mu Long Zhu (... > podobny dracim ocim ...)), druhy mysli na zpusob suseni a zpracovani (Pai Mu > Tan, Show Mee). A svoje opodstatneni ma asi obe. Ja povazuji za > pregnantnejsi oznaceni metody zpracovani, ale s nikym bych se prilis neprel. > Doufam, ze me nenarknete z komerce a reklamy (prisaham, ze hlavnim duvodem > je lenost), ale dovolim si sem prekopirovat cast jedne knihy (alespon > neuvedu nazev), ktera o teto metode zpracovani take pojednava. Pozorni > ctenari shledaji nesrovnalosti s originalem, jez jsou dany tim, ze kopiruji > z verze pred sinologickymi korekturami. Tim se zaroven omlouvam jazykovym > puristum. Citace: > > Baihao Yinzhen (Paj-chao jin-cen) > > Název zní dosti pohádkove, ale tento caj skutecne pohádkový je, protoze > obsahuje jen výhonky, pokryté bílým chmýrím. Tento vzácný caj, který se > vyrábí pouze v Cíne (hlavne v provincii Fujian), se puvodne vyrábel z divoce > rostoucích stromu. Pro znalce, kterí se pokou eli dosáhnout samé hranice > dokonalosti, nebyly jiz krehké, mladé lístky dost jemné, a tak se rozhodli > je získávat, je te nez se stací rozvinout z výhonku. > "Cajový císar" dynastie Song?? Hui Zong?? napsal, ze bílý caj má > nejojedinelej í a nejjemnej í chut. Povazoval jej za zvlá tní druh, odli ný > od v ech ostatních caju. Dnes je vet inou povazován za druh zeleného caje. > Bílý caj je dnes mnohem dostupnej í nez dríve. Casto se prodává pod názvem > Silvery Tip Pekoe??, coz je varianta názvu tradicního, ale i pod > jednodu ími oznaceními China White a Fujian White. Hlavní pestitelskou > oblastí je okres Jianyang na severu provincie Fujian. > Plne dorostlé výhonky, spojené s nekolika lístky, se sbírají na jare tesne > pred otevrením. Dva a pul centimetru dlouhé výhonky se vybírají pro caj > nejvybranej í kvality. Pocházejí ze dvou odrud: Shui Hsien?? (Water > Sprite??) a Hai Bai?? (Dabai, Big White??). > Svinování a fermentace se pri zpracování tohoto caje neprovádí. Lístky > jsou zbaveny enzymu naparováním. Po zalití se výhonky v álku vztycí jako > les krápníku. Blede zlutý nápoj má vyvázenou, nasládlou chut. > Men í výhonky a lístky jsou surovým materiálem pro výrobu caju Pai Mu Tan?? > (Baimudan, White Peony??) a Show Mee?? (Shoumei, Longevity Eyebrow??). Vet í > mnozství caje White Peony?? vypadá jako kupa kytic s drobounkými bílými > kvety a edozelenými lístky. Hotový nápoj má jasnou, oranzovozlutou barvu. I > tento caj je velice vzácný. Nápoj pripravený ze stríbritých lístku Show > Mee?? je svetlé, hnedave oranzové barvy a nasládlé chuti. > Bílý caj je povazován za zvlá te úcinný prostredek na snizování horkosti, > kompenzování vlivu vlhkosti a povzbuzení trávicí soustavy. > > Konec citatu. Pro uplnost uvedu, ze paj-chao znamena bily vlas. O bilem caji > by se dala uvest nepreberna rada dalsich informaci, ale myslim, ze uz to > staci. > > Caji zdar. Jan. > > P.S.: Nedavno se kdosi na konferenci ptal na vietnamsky zeleny caj THAI > NGUYEN, snad slo rozdily v kvalite. Odpoved je : jak by ne. THAI NGUYEN je > jen jmeno mesta (a asi i oblasti) severne od Hanoje v blizkosti hranic s > Cinou (provincie Yunnan a Guangxi). Produkuje se tam velke mnozstvi > ruznorodych druhu a trid caje. Nektere z nich jsou skutecne prvotridni, jine > nestoji za moc. Tak uz to chodi. Vice nez kdy jindy (snad az na Darjeeling) > plati: neverit svym vlastnim ocim ! Ochutnat! (Toto heslo povazuji za zcela > universalni). > > -----Původní zpráva----- > Od: Milan Červenka > Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Datum: 24. února 1999 8:44 > Předmět: Re: Caj: Re: Zeleny - Cerny > > >Ja taky nejsem nejzkusenejsi, tak podam jen laickou definici. Bily caj se > >sklada z chlupatych vrcholovych listku cajovniku. Doufam, ze to nekdo > >dovysvetli, pripadne opravi. > > > >Caj v Kristu Milan > > > > > :-)) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Jan Kalabza Phone: +420-0433-544253 Fax: +420-0433-23482 E-mail: john@tpc.cz URL: http://www.tpc.cz Home Page: none * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Feb 25 11:45:15 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA16434; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 11:45:15 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA16431 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 11:45:14 +0100 From: john@tpc.cz Received: from unix.tpc.cz (unix.tpc.cz [194.212.187.5]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA05044 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 11:45:12 +0100 (MET) Received: from tpc.tpc.cz (tpc.tpc.cz [194.212.187.3]) by unix.tpc.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8/TPC Jicin/Antispam) with ESMTP id LAA11133 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 11:45:12 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199902251045.LAA11133@unix.tpc.cz> Received: from TPC/SpoolDir by tpc.tpc.cz (Mercury 1.43); 25 Feb 99 11:43:49 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by TPC (Mercury 1.43); 25 Feb 99 11:43:43 +0100 Organization: TPC Ltd. To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 11:43:34 MET+1MEST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Caj: var. sacky - sypany Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Kdyz jsem se nedavno prihlasil do teto skupiny, kolovaly nazory pro a proti ohledne pytlikovanych caju a sypanych. Chci prispet s trochou do mlyna. Mel jsem tu cest nedavno vyzkouset pytlikovany zeleny caj s jasminem a muzu rict, ze kdybych ho nevylil hned udelal bych to pozdeji. Vune caje -- S vuni zeleneho s jasminem to nemelo nic spolecnyho. Chut -- pravdepodobne diky tomu, ze pouzili zeleny cas z pochybnych zdroju byla hrozna. Caji se vubec nepodobala. Zde bych to chtel schrnou do jedne vety: U caju pytlikovanych vam do sacku nasypou co je napadne a diky tomu, kvalita i vypada. Kdyz budete mit stesti tak si mozna pochutnate. (J) >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Feb 25 12:09:55 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA16525; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 12:09:55 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA16522 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 12:09:54 +0100 Received: from matsrv.math.cas.cz (IDENT:kasal@math-gw.math.cas.cz [147.231.89.66]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA05939 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 12:09:51 +0100 (MET) Received: (from kasal@localhost) by matsrv.math.cas.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA17387 for caj@dione.zcu.cz; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 12:09:50 +0100 From: Stepan Kasal Message-Id: <199902251109.MAA17387@matsrv.math.cas.cz> Subject: Re: Caj: var. sacky - sypany To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 12:09:50 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <199902251045.LAA11133@unix.tpc.cz> from "john@tpc.cz" at Feb 25, 99 11:43:34 am Content-Type: text Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Dobry den, > U caju pytlikovanych vam do sacku nasypou co je napadne a diky tomu, > kvalita i vypada. Kdyz budete mit stesti tak si mozna pochutnate. je ovsem mozno pytliky koupit, pokud mate duvod duverovat dotycne firme/znacce. Ja myslim, ze napr. Lipton Yellow Label je dobry cerny caj. V pripade nutnosti bych zkousel i pytlikovane caje firmy Ridgways. Pytlikovane caje, zejmena takoveto, jsou ovsem dva- az trikrat drazsi nez caje sypane, a nevidim duvod, proc takto utracet. Stepan >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Feb 25 12:28:00 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA16608; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 12:28:00 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA16605 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 12:27:59 +0100 From: john@tpc.cz Received: from unix.tpc.cz (unix.tpc.cz [194.212.187.5]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA06923 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 12:27:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from tpc.tpc.cz (tpc.tpc.cz [194.212.187.3]) by unix.tpc.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8/TPC Jicin/Antispam) with ESMTP id MAA12621 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 12:27:58 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199902251127.MAA12621@unix.tpc.cz> Received: from TPC/SpoolDir by tpc.tpc.cz (Mercury 1.43); 25 Feb 99 12:26:35 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by TPC (Mercury 1.43); 25 Feb 99 12:26:34 +0100 Organization: TPC Ltd. To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 12:26:32 MET+1MEST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Caj: var. sacky - sypany In-reply-to: <199902251109.MAA17387@matsrv.math.cas.cz> References: <199902251045.LAA11133@unix.tpc.cz> from "john@tpc.cz" at Feb 25, 99 11:43:34 am Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > From: Stepan Kasal > Subject: Re: Caj: var. sacky - sypany > To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 12:09:50 +0100 (CET) > Reply-to: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Dobry den, > > > U caju pytlikovanych vam do sacku nasypou co je napadne a diky tomu, > > kvalita i vypada. Kdyz budete mit stesti tak si mozna pochutnate. > > je ovsem mozno pytliky koupit, pokud mate duvod duverovat dotycne firme/znacce. > Ja myslim, ze napr. Lipton Yellow Label je dobry cerny caj. Tak tato znacka je jedna z vyjimek. Ja jsem schvalne nejmenoval, abych nedelal antireklamu. > > V pripade nutnosti bych zkousel i pytlikovane caje firmy Ridgways. > > Pytlikovane caje, zejmena takoveto, jsou ovsem dva- az trikrat drazsi > nez caje sypane, a nevidim duvod, proc takto utracet. Neni co dodat > Stepan > ;-)) (J) >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Feb 26 12:31:08 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA23171; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 12:31:08 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA23168 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 12:31:07 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA07608 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 12:31:07 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA29963 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 12:31:06 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 26 Feb 99 12:31:06 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 26 Feb 99 12:30:55 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 12:30:47 +100 Subject: Caj: Duse vychodu X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <2F2630E12@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > Jinak opet pro prazaky. Vcera jsem navstivil zminovanou prodejni galerii > > Duse vychodu a ... hned jsem koupil krasnou kosili za 350,-. Zatim je tam > > toho hodne ve stavu tvoreni (otevirali tohle pondeli), jsou toho 4 patra, > > v hornim by mela byt cajovna. Jedna se o aktivitu Data a myslim, ze tam > > maji i prvky ze Sanu Babu ... kdo zna, vi oc jde, kdo nezna, at se prijde > > podivat. Stoji to za to. > > Rad bych se dozvedel presnou adresu. Tak tedy...Krizovnicke namesti 1, Praha 1, vchod je z podloubi, ktere vede do tunelu po hlavni. Byl tam uz nekdo dalsi? Budu tam muset zase zavitat, co se od oteviraci doby zmenilo, treba uz funguje i cajovna. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Feb 26 15:43:41 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA23956; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 15:43:41 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA23953 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 15:43:40 +0100 Received: from juno.fek.zcu.cz (juno.fek.zcu.cz [147.228.190.20]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA14196 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 15:43:40 +0100 (MET) Received: from noe.fek.zcu.cz (noe.fek.zcu.cz [147.228.190.5]) by juno.fek.zcu.cz with ESMTP id PAA22281 (8.8.8/IDA-1.7 for ); Fri, 26 Feb 1999 15:43:39 +0100 Received: from NOE/SpoolDir by noe.fek.zcu.cz (Mercury 1.43); 26 Feb 99 15:38:04 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by NOE (Mercury 1.43); 26 Feb 99 15:37:35 +0100 From: "Michal Dlouhy" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 15:37:26 -0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Caj: chajwana? X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.40 Message-ID: <10215AB449B9@noe.fek.zcu.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Mili cajari, vcera jsem obdrzel keramicky hrnecek s deravou poklickou (dirka pri vrcholu poklicky je cca 1.5 mm siroka) a nevim jestli jde o Chajwanu (hrnecek se specialni poklickou urceny k nasobnemu louhovani nasobne louhovatelneho caje). Pri rozlevani caje totiz solidne bryndam po stole. Je to Chajwana, nebo potrebuju k rozlevani vic sikovnosti? michal >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Feb 26 23:15:52 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA25100; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 23:15:52 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA25097 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 23:15:52 +0100 Received: from conan.asysijd.cz (mailexim@server.asysijd.cz [195.75.66.161]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA21955 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 23:15:51 +0100 (MET) Received: from kol-dial6.asysijd.cz (asysijd.cz) [195.75.66.16] by conan.asysijd.cz with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1 (Debian)) id 10GVXy-0002N5-00; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 23:15:50 +0100 Message-ID: <36D6A3C3.1935F741@asysijd.cz> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 14:38:11 +0100 From: Jan Bourek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: - Cajovy Dychanek - Subject: Caj: Yixing Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Bore da, tak uz mam cas a trochu vam povypravim o sve nove konvicce. Je maleho vzrustu, ladnych krivek a barvy hlineno hnede. Na svem tele ma jakesi cinske znaky vyryte. Koupil jsem ji v Pardubicich v kramku Zeleny svet za 342 Kc. O jeji Yixing pravosti si nedelam iluze, ale treba tato konvicka take trochu aroma z caje pohlti. Je (mnou - tedy svym otcem) urcena vyhradne k priprave caje Formosa Superior Fancy Oolong. Mozna v ni budu delat i jine Formosy, ale jen ty. Zadny jiny caj chuderka nikdy nepozna. Nedavno se tu hovorilo o zpusobech priprav vicenalevovych caju. Tedy muj zpusob v tomto pripade je nasledujici: Do nove male konvicky dam nekolik lzicek caje, zaliji horkou vodou a pockam minutku. Pak caj naliji do cinske velke misky (jako na ryzi) a tim vyprazdnim cely objem konvice. Dalsi luhovani uz trva stale dele, dokud ma caj chut. Je to podobne kung-fu priprave, ze? Jinak konevka jeste nema jmeno, ale urcite nejake vhodne najdu. V tom obchudku meli konvicek (Yixing) vice, nektere jeste mensi, nektere velke jine barvy. Az prijde vhodny okamzik (narozeniny, velky zivotni zlom atd) zase je tam navstivim a zakoupim dalsi. Velmi zajimava doba bude az budu zit v duchodu, doma malou mistnost plnou policek s caji a s konvickami a vubec. *JB* >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Feb 26 23:15:48 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA25090; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 23:15:48 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA25087 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 23:15:45 +0100 Received: from conan.asysijd.cz (mailexim@server.asysijd.cz [195.75.66.161]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA21755 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 23:15:44 +0100 (MET) Received: from kol-dial6.asysijd.cz (asysijd.cz) [195.75.66.16] by conan.asysijd.cz with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1 (Debian)) id 10GVXr-0002Mz-00; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 23:15:43 +0100 Message-ID: <36D67F78.4B89532F@asysijd.cz> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 12:03:20 +0100 From: Jan Bourek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Re: Mam Yixing References: <1F9A8661F@jessica.gymcheb.hiedu.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Pripojuji se k blahoprani, take jsem mel takovou radost, kdyz jsem videl > moji prvni konvicku. >         s pozdravem Lukas Bore da, diky za blahoprani, ale rad bych jen upresnil, ze to je ma treti konvicka, ale Yixing prvni, to je pravda. *JB* >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Feb 26 23:15:50 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA25095; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 23:15:50 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA25092 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 23:15:49 +0100 Received: from conan.asysijd.cz (mailexim@server.asysijd.cz [195.75.66.161]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA14334 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 23:15:48 +0100 (MET) Received: from kol-dial6.asysijd.cz (asysijd.cz) [195.75.66.16] by conan.asysijd.cz with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1 (Debian)) id 10GVXu-0002N2-00; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 23:15:47 +0100 Message-ID: <36D69FF1.FC068774@asysijd.cz> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 14:21:53 +0100 From: Jan Bourek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: - Cajovy Dychanek - Subject: Caj: Domaci lekarka - Caj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Vazeni, zde vam opisuji kapitolu venovanou caji z knihy Domaci lekarka od MUDr. Jenny Springerove. Kniha je to velmi stara, potisteny papir velmi zezloutly, rok vydani si absolutne netroufam odhadnout, v knize neni uveden (tedy alespon v torzu, ktere mam k dispozici - jinak chybi hrbet a trocha desek). Datuji knihu priblizne do prelomu stoleti, ale mozna i dele. Ani muj otec, velky polygraficky odbornik si netroufal odhadnout stari. Treba ho nekdo vydedukujete z textu. Jinak kniha vazi aspon 2,5 kg a ma 1160 stran. Choroby a vady uvnitr vyobrazene se v dnesni dobe uz nevidi (opravdu nektere jsou hodne bizarni). Doufam, ze vas tato exkurse do minulosti potesi. Caj. Ackoliv slovo caj plati vlastne pro vsechny nalevy rostlinne, ustalilo se vseobecne uzivati ho pouze pro listy cajovniku. Obycejne mluvi se o cinslem caji, ponevadz se piti caje rozsirilo po celem svete z Ciny, kde jiz pred 2000 lety bylo obvykle. V Evrope zavedeno bylo piti caje pocatkem 17. stoleti a jeste roku 1664 byl caj v nasem zemedilu necim tak vzacnym, ze proslula vychodoindicka obchodni spolecnost pokladala za vzacny dar dve libry caje, venovane anglicke kralovne. Cinsky caj poskytuji listy cajovnika, jemuz dari se nejlepe v Cine a Japonsku, jakoz i v jizni Indii. Pokusy pestovati caj v Africe a Jizni Americe setkaly s nepriznivym vysledkem co do jakosti, takze vychodni Asie jest stale jeste hlavni oblasti pesteni caje. Listy cajove podobaji se listum visnovym a jsou leskle zelene. Dle polohy zahrad cajovnikovych ridi se jakost listu, podobne jako tomu jest u hroznu vinnych, take zachazeni pred sklizni i po ni jest dulezite pro chut caje. K nejlepsimu druhu caje, k caji cisarskemu, vybiraji se nejjemnejsi listy v nejlepsich zahradach cajovnikovych a pripravuji se pod dohledem cisarskych uredniku, takze samotnemu cisari prijde libra na vice nez 240 korun. Tento druh vubec do obchodu neprijde a to co se pod timto jmenem prodava, jsou mene cenne parfumovane druhy. Cerstve natrhane listi nema ani aromatu, ani neposkytlo by pozivatelneho napoje. Musi se nejprve jako kava na mirnem ohni praziti, aby vznikl zvlastni olej, jenz podminuje chut caje, zaroven podleha take listi nutnym zmenam. Dle toho, chceli se vyrobiti caj zeleny nebo cerny, ruzni se take zpusoby zachazeni s listim. Listi, jez ma poskytnouti zeleny caj, da se ihned po natrhani na zelezne desky peci nebo do plochych kotlu, mne se a macka rukama a tim se zpusobi, ze rychlym vyparenim vlhkosti listi se zkrouti a stoci, pak se ususi a rychle prazi na plotne. Listi urcene k cernemu caji prodelava mnohem delsi proceduru. Nejprve zustane delsi dobu po natrhani lezeti rozprostreno na vzduchu. Pak se stridave prohazuje a rukama tluce a macka, aby zmeklo. Na to prazi se jako zeleny caj po nekolik minut. To se nekolikrat opakuje a pak se susi jeste nad ohnem zapaleneho drivi bez koure. Krome tohoto zpusobu pripravy jest jeste jeden, pri kterem se listi cajove navrsi do velkych hromad, kdez kvasi a castecne se rozklada a pri tom do tmava zbarvi. Rychle suseni udrzi zelenou barvu caje, zaroven vsak take vetsi mnozstvi ucinnych latek. Pomale zachazeni s cernym cajem cini jej nejen tmavsim, nybrz zpusobi soucasne v listech chemicke zmeny, jez ucini pozivani jeho prijemnejsim. Nejuzivanejsi druhy cerneho caje jsou: pekko, kongo, suchong a zeleneho caje: perlovy caj, tez zvany cisarsky, jenz prichazi v kulickach jako hrach velkych, a jeste mnohe jine druhy, ktere u nas jen malo zname jsou. Cernemu caji dluzno vzdy davati prednost, jednak pro jeho lepsi chut a za druhe jsou zelene druhy vetsinou barevne. Jako barviva pouziva se smesi indigove modre, hliny nebo sadry a kurkumy. Dle poměru techto jednotlivych soucastek kolisa zelen listu mezi matne zelenou, modrozelenou a zelenavesedou. Nejlevnejsi druh caje jest tak zvany cihlovy caj, jenz pripravuje se z prachu cajoveho smiseneho s vodou klovatinovou a tlaci se do ctyrhrannych forem. Tohoto zcela levneho caje pouzivaji nejvice Mongolove a Tatari. Samozrejme jest i caj predmetem podvodnych manipulaci. Nehlede k umelemu barveni caje misi se lepsi druhy s levnejsimi, ano i s vyvarenymi listy. V Anglii jsou velke tovarny, ktere skupuji jiz pouzity caj z restauraci a predelavaji ho na cinsky zpusob s pridanim listi jahodoveho, jasanoveho aj. Take parfumovanim klame se obecenstvo. K tomu ucelu smisi se levnejsi druhy caje s vonnymi kvety, nechaji se po nejaky cas pohromade, pak se opet oddeli a susi. Timto zpusobem aroma znacne se zlepsuje a kupec klame. Nejdulezitejsimi soucastkami caje jsou jako u kavy prchavy olej, jenz caji dodava prijemne vune a chuti, a alkaloid, zvany thein. Jest totozny s kofeinem. Jina soucast jest trislovina (tannin), ktera pusobi uklidnujicim zpusobem na strevo a cini caj mirnym lecivym prostredkem pri poruchach zazivacich. Nejlepsi zpusob pripravovani caje jest politi listu cajovych varici vodou, nacez nalev ponecha se nekolik minut stati, pri cemz pusobive latky prejdou do vody. Kdyz se caj prilis dlouho vyluhuje, nabyva neprijemne trpke a horke chuti, prave tak, jako kdyz se necha varit. Prilis silny caj jest primo nezdravy. Prirozeny fisiologicky ucinek, jenz ma nervy povzbuzovati a obcerstvovati, stupnuje se pri nemirnem pozivani caje k drazdeni nervu, projevujicimu se nespavosti, celkovym neklidem a tresenim udu. I zachvaty srdecni s dychavicnosti mohou se dostaviti. Jest dokonce i opilost cajova, velmi neprijemna, pocinajici zavratemi a koncici mdlobami. To bylo co? *JB* >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Feb 26 23:15:54 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA25106; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 23:15:54 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA25102 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 23:15:53 +0100 Received: from conan.asysijd.cz (mailexim@server.asysijd.cz [195.75.66.161]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA21250 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 23:15:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from kol-dial6.asysijd.cz (asysijd.cz) [195.75.66.16] by conan.asysijd.cz with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1 (Debian)) id 10GVY0-0002N8-00; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 23:15:52 +0100 Message-ID: <36D6A7BC.D032800D@asysijd.cz> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 14:55:09 +0100 From: Jan Bourek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: - Cajovy Dychanek - Subject: Caj: Caj & Hudba Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Bore da, kdyz pijete caj doma, poslouchate k nemu nekdy hudbu? Jaka hudba se pro kazdeho z vas hodi k vasemu piti caje? Me se osvedcil Leonard Cohen, Jaromir Nohavica, Pink Floyd (ne prvni alba), Residents a vubec hodne z vysilani Ceskeho rozhlasu 3 stanice Vlatava. Ale ono to vzdy hodne zalezi na nalade okamziku. V cajovne se mi docela libi asijsky pop a podobne orientalni veci, ale doma bych asi nemohl. Nekdy me i v cajovne tahle hudba vadi. Zajimavy pocin jsem slysel v DC v Pardubicich. Tam hrali vaznou hudbu a bylo to docela zajimave. Take zajimave zneji madarske lidove pisne, kde dabelsky kvileji carodejne housle. A nedavno jsem slysel o nejakem chlapikovi jmenem Talvin Sink(g), coz je Ind a micha indicke (japonske, okinawske) prvky s tanecnimi. Znelo to taky moc zajimave. No ted zrovna posloucham Karla Plihala a piju Formosu a taky je klidek. Tesim se na vase hudebne cajove zazitky *JB* >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Feb 26 23:15:56 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA25111; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 23:15:56 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA25108 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 23:15:55 +0100 Received: from conan.asysijd.cz (mailexim@server.asysijd.cz [195.75.66.161]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA21794 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 23:15:55 +0100 (MET) Received: from kol-dial6.asysijd.cz (asysijd.cz) [195.75.66.16] by conan.asysijd.cz with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1 (Debian)) id 10GVY2-0002NB-00; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 23:15:54 +0100 Message-ID: <36D6A8D7.945870A8@asysijd.cz> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 14:59:51 +0100 From: Jan Bourek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: - Cajovy Dychanek - Subject: Caj: Vodni dymka Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Bore da, miulou nedeli se nas seslo hodne pratel v cajovne kolem velkeho stolku, popili jsme caj a povidali, proste dokonala nalada. Pak jsme si rekli ze zkusime vodni dymku. Prinesli nam ji a k ni jakysi jablecny tabak. Pokurovali jsme si a bylo to celkem fajn. Vyborne aroma. Pak se mi ale zacala motat hlava, tak jsem prestal. Ale dulezite bylo, ze se dymka k tomu okamziku velice hodila a nevadila mi. Jinak normalne nekourim. Co myslite vy, hodi se dymka do cajovny, nebo by tam mel byt pouze caj. >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Feb 26 23:15:59 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA25116; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 23:15:59 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA25113 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 23:15:58 +0100 Received: from conan.asysijd.cz (mailexim@server.asysijd.cz [195.75.66.161]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA21222 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 23:15:57 +0100 (MET) Received: from kol-dial6.asysijd.cz (asysijd.cz) [195.75.66.16] by conan.asysijd.cz with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1 (Debian)) id 10GVY4-0002NE-00; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 23:15:57 +0100 Message-ID: <36D6AA5F.777D58F@asysijd.cz> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 15:06:24 +0100 From: Jan Bourek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: - Cajovy Dychanek - Subject: Caj: Cinske znaky Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Bore da, rad bych zjistil, co mam napsano na konvicce a tak me napadlo, zda v konferenci neni nekdo, kdo se trochu vyzna v cinskem pismu. Nejdrive jsem chtel ty znaky naskenovat a poslat do konference vsem, ale asi by se to nekomu nelibilo a tak se jen takto ptam. Pokud by mi nekdo chtel pomoci, nebo mali nekdo zajem videt ty znaky, mohu mu je poslat na @. Nebo jeste jestli nekdo nevite o strankach na netu venovanych cinskym znakum. Neco jako: Vysvetleni vyznamu zakladnich 10000 cinskych znaku, apod. Jsem si jisty, ze jsem ty znaky uz parkrat videl, ale nemohu najit zdroj. Diky *JB* >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Sat Feb 27 00:06:39 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA25295; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 00:06:39 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA25292 for ; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 00:06:38 +0100 From: jaslo@gratex.sk Received: from ns.gtinet.sk (IDENT:root@ns.gtinet.sk [195.98.128.20]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA22572 for ; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 00:06:34 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.gratex.sk (mail.gratex.sk [195.98.128.40]) by ns.gtinet.sk with ESMTP id AAA07174 for ; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 00:06:32 +0100 Received: by SENTINEL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 00:06:33 +0100 Message-ID: To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Dymka Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 00:06:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Mily Jan, ja som sa prihlasil do konferencie ako cajovy... no nie zaciatocnik, ale urcite nie pokrocily vyznavac (bolo mi dopriate skusit asi iba 20 - 25 druhov zeleneho caju a velmi rad sa necham poucit - s velkym potesenim sledujem vasu komunikaciu) ale vo fajkach sa, myslim, vyznam - viac pozri na http://home.gratex.sk/fajky Myslim, ze tieto svety su velmi podobne a doplnaju sa - fajka, caj, pripadne uslachtila whisky. Pokial by niekto z vas skusal nieco s fajkou (dymkou), rad poradim. Dufam ze mi za to odpustite, ked sa niekedy budem pytat hlupo. Napriklad co je to konvicka Yixing. Marian Jaslovsky administrator Virtualneho klubu fajkarov jaslo@gratex.sk ICQ 7193842 http://home.gratex.sk/fajky _______________________________________________________ VKF vznika v spolupraci so spolocnostou Gratex International -----Original Message----- From: Jan Bourek [mailto:jan.bourek@asysijd.cz] Sent: Friday, February 26, 1999 3:00 PM To: - Cajovy Dychanek - Subject: Caj: Vodni dymka Bore da, miulou nedeli se nas seslo hodne pratel v cajovne kolem velkeho stolku, popili jsme caj a povidali, proste dokonala nalada. Pak jsme si rekli ze zkusime vodni dymku. Prinesli nam ji a k ni jakysi jablecny tabak. Pokurovali jsme si a bylo to celkem fajn. Vyborne aroma. Pak se mi ale zacala motat hlava, tak jsem prestal. Ale dulezite bylo, ze se dymka k tomu okamziku velice hodila a nevadila mi. Jinak normalne nekourim. Co myslite vy, hodi se dymka do cajovny, nebo by tam mel byt pouze caj. >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Sat Feb 27 21:46:55 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA27287; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 21:46:55 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA27284 for ; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 21:46:55 +0100 Received: from ns.seznam.cz (ns.seznam.cz [195.39.10.2]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA30991 for ; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 21:46:54 +0100 (MET) Received: from lizard (nymD001.pvt.net [194.149.97.193]) by ns.seznam.cz (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA15505 for ; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 23:46:41 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.16.19990227214738.261fc35a@pop3.seznam.cz> X-Sender: petrnon@pop3.seznam.cz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (16) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 21:47:38 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz From: PetrNovak Subject: Caj: Prichazim do konference Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Zdravim vsechny priznivce caje, V techto chvilich jsem se prihlasil do konference a zacinam se prvnimi krucky seznamovat s timto zpusobem komunikace. Doufam, ze to vyjde. Zatim jsem si procetl korespondenci ze zacatku roku 1998 a jsem prijemne prekvapen. Snad bych mel napsat neco o sobe. S cilenym pitim caje jsem zacal asi tak pred tremi roky. Od te doby, mne jako zivnostnika, piti zeleneho caje (ale caje i jineho) vlastne pomaha udrzovat v dobre kondici, vezmeme-li v uvahu, ze na dodrzovani bezne zivotospravy proste nemam podminky. Kdyz uz se citim dost mizerne, udelam si cas, jdu do cajovny a je mi fajn. Uz snad abych koncil. A to jsem jeste ani poradne nezacal o caji. Snad nekdy priste. Novak P. >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Sun Feb 28 11:25:30 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA28639; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 11:25:30 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA28636 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 11:25:28 +0100 Received: from ns.jes.cz (IDENT:root@[194.228.41.66]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA31216 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 11:25:26 +0100 (MET) Received: from default (dial-up005.jes.cz. [194.228.41.122]) by ns.jes.cz (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA14421 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 11:25:20 +0100 Message-ID: <001201be6304$8af9d380$7a29e4c2@default> From: "Filgorn" To: Subject: Re: Caj: var. sacky - sypany Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 11:24:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz U nepytlikovanych caju to muzou udelat taky, a jeste je to pro vyrobce levnejsi. Filgorn -----Původní zpráva----- Od: Stepan Kasal Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz Datum: 25. února 1999 12:20 Předmět: Re: Caj: var. sacky - sypany >Dobry den, > >> U caju pytlikovanych vam do sacku nasypou co je napadne a diky tomu, >> kvalita i vypada. Kdyz budete mit stesti tak si mozna pochutnate. > >je ovsem mozno pytliky koupit, pokud mate duvod duverovat dotycne firme/znacce. >Ja myslim, ze napr. Lipton Yellow Label je dobry cerny caj. > >V pripade nutnosti bych zkousel i pytlikovane caje firmy Ridgways. > >Pytlikovane caje, zejmena takoveto, jsou ovsem dva- az trikrat drazsi >nez caje sypane, a nevidim duvod, proc takto utracet. > Stepan >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Sun Feb 28 11:29:04 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA28667; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 11:29:04 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA28664 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 11:29:03 +0100 Received: from ns.jes.cz (IDENT:root@[194.228.41.66]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA32324 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 11:29:00 +0100 (MET) Received: from default (dial-up005.jes.cz. [194.228.41.122]) by ns.jes.cz (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA15173 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 11:28:56 +0100 Message-ID: <001f01be6305$0bee3760$7a29e4c2@default> From: "Filgorn" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Duse vychodu Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 11:28:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Jo, byl. Dokoce tam dela kamos se svoji kockou. Jeste nebyla otevrena cajovna, a na hadrniky moc zvedavy nejsem - nejak mi nedochazi, cim se lisi indicky predrazeny smejd od vietnamskeho predrazeneho smejdu (mozna tema ctyrma patrama :-))) ), ale tesim se na tu cajovnu, az se zase dostanu do Prahy. Filgorn -----Původní zpráva----- Od: Pavel Hlavacek Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz Datum: 26. února 1999 12:43 Předmět: Caj: Duse vychodu >> > Jinak opet pro prazaky. Vcera jsem navstivil zminovanou prodejni galerii >> > Duse vychodu a ... hned jsem koupil krasnou kosili za 350,-. Zatim je tam >> > toho hodne ve stavu tvoreni (otevirali tohle pondeli), jsou toho 4 patra, >> > v hornim by mela byt cajovna. Jedna se o aktivitu Data a myslim, ze tam >> > maji i prvky ze Sanu Babu ... kdo zna, vi oc jde, kdo nezna, at se prijde >> > podivat. Stoji to za to. >> >> Rad bych se dozvedel presnou adresu. > > Tak tedy...Krizovnicke namesti 1, Praha 1, > vchod je z podloubi, ktere vede do tunelu po hlavni. > > Byl tam uz nekdo dalsi? Budu tam muset zase zavitat, co se od oteviraci >doby zmenilo, treba uz funguje i cajovna. >Pavel > >mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz >http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek > >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Sun Feb 28 11:31:42 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA28699; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 11:31:42 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA28696 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 11:31:41 +0100 Received: from ns.jes.cz (IDENT:root@[194.228.41.66]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA00806 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 11:31:39 +0100 (MET) Received: from default (dial-up005.jes.cz. [194.228.41.122]) by ns.jes.cz (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA15208 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 11:31:36 +0100 Message-ID: <003401be6305$6b4c4760$7a29e4c2@default> From: "Filgorn" To: Subject: Caj: Re: Cinske znaky Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 11:30:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Taky by mne zajimal nejaky slovnicek. Semo tamo se setkavam se C. znaky i jinde. Filgorn -----Původní zpráva----- Od: Jan Bourek Komu: - Cajovy Dychanek - Datum: 26. února 1999 23:21 Předmět: Caj: Cinske znaky >Bore da, >rad bych zjistil, co mam napsano na konvicce a tak me napadlo, zda v >konferenci neni nekdo, kdo se trochu vyzna v cinskem pismu. Nejdrive >jsem chtel ty znaky naskenovat a poslat do konference vsem, ale asi by >se to nekomu nelibilo a tak se jen takto ptam. Pokud by mi nekdo chtel >pomoci, nebo mali nekdo zajem videt ty znaky, mohu mu je poslat na @. >Nebo jeste jestli nekdo nevite o strankach na netu venovanych cinskym >znakum. Neco jako: Vysvetleni vyznamu zakladnich 10000 cinskych znaku, >apod. Jsem si jisty, ze jsem ty znaky uz parkrat videl, ale nemohu najit >zdroj. > >Diky *JB* > > > >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Sun Feb 28 11:33:04 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA28724; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 11:33:04 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA28721 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 11:33:03 +0100 Received: from ns.jes.cz (IDENT:root@[194.228.41.66]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA00440 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 11:33:01 +0100 (MET) Received: from default (dial-up005.jes.cz. [194.228.41.122]) by ns.jes.cz (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA15529 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 11:32:57 +0100 Message-ID: <003901be6305$9b7d0280$7a29e4c2@default> From: "Filgorn" To: Subject: Caj: Re: chajwana? Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 11:32:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ta dirka je tam prave kvuli bryndani - nebo proti nemu. Jde tudy dovnitr vzduch, kdyz unika caj a poklicka je zavrena. Filgorn -----Původní zpráva----- Od: Michal Dlouhy Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz Datum: 26. února 1999 16:06 Předmět: Caj: chajwana? Mili cajari, vcera jsem obdrzel keramicky hrnecek s deravou poklickou (dirka pri vrcholu poklicky je cca 1.5 mm siroka) a nevim jestli jde o Chajwanu (hrnecek se specialni poklickou urceny k nasobnemu louhovani nasobne louhovatelneho caje). Pri rozlevani caje totiz solidne bryndam po stole. Je to Chajwana, nebo potrebuju k rozlevani vic sikovnosti? michal >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Sun Feb 28 13:55:32 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA29001; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 13:55:32 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA28998 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 13:55:31 +0100 From: LToman@zivpo.cz Received: from zp999a.zivpo.cz (ms.zivpo.cz [195.146.106.228]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA01914 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 13:55:28 +0100 (MET) Received: by ms.zivpo.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 13:55:26 +0100 Message-ID: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A390139501A@PUEX1C1> To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: RE: Vodni dymka Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 13:55:34 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Co myslite vy, hodi se dymka do cajovny, nebo by tam mel byt > pouze caj. Jako zaryty nekurak je pro me odpoved snadna. Nehodi. Galenius >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Sun Feb 28 14:36:38 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA29097; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 14:36:38 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA29094 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 14:36:35 +0100 Received: from ns.seznam.cz (ns.seznam.cz [195.39.10.2]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA01597 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 14:36:35 +0100 (MET) Received: from lizard (nymD004.pvt.net [194.149.97.196]) by ns.seznam.cz (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA02831 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 16:36:22 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.16.19990228143841.2bcf0df4@pop3.seznam.cz> X-Sender: petrnon@pop3.seznam.cz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (16) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 14:38:41 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz From: PetrNovak Subject: Re: Caj: RE: Vodni dymka In-Reply-To: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A390139501A@PUEX1C1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id OAA29095 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz At 13:55 28.2.1999 +0100, you wrote: >> Co myslite vy, hodi se dymka do cajovny, nebo by tam mel byt >> pouze caj. > >Jako zaryty nekurak je pro me odpoved snadna. Nehodi. > > Galenius > > Zdravim, snad by tam ta vodní dýmka ani tak moc nevadila, ale to by se mohlo zvrhnout a skalni kuraci (cigaret) ba mohli chtit rovnopravnost a cajovnu by zacudili. Petr N.