From Majordomo@dione.zcu.cz Sat Mar 11 00:34:55 2000 Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 23:34:06 +0100 From: Majordomo@dione.zcu.cz To: jk@jikos.jikos.cz Subject: Majordomo file: list 'caj' file 'caj.9901' -- >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Jan 1 09:52:36 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA07284; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 09:52:36 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA07281 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 09:52:34 +0100 Received: from matsrv.math.cas.cz (IDENT:kasal@math-gw.math.cas.cz [147.231.89.66]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA15317 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 09:52:34 +0100 (MET) Received: (from kasal@localhost) by matsrv.math.cas.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA14192 for caj@dione.zcu.cz; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 09:52:25 +0100 From: Stepan Kasal Message-Id: <199901010852.JAA14192@matsrv.math.cas.cz> Subject: Re: Caj: Vsechny caje Ciny To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 09:52:25 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <36895D68.4B274AEF@asysijd.cz> from "Jan Bourek" at Dec 29, 98 11:53:29 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Dobry caj v novem roce! > to logicke, protoze dnes ma moznost sazet knihu kdokoliv, kdo ma pocitac a nejaky > software, bohuzel temto lidem chybi zakladni typograficke vzdelani, znalost pravidel > sazby a tak. Na Grafarne nam vzdy rikali, abychom tak nedopadli, tudiz abychom se > ucili.PS.: Jsi z oboru, clovece? I kdepak, jsem matematik a programator. K typografii jsem se dostal pres TeX. > moznem. Mimochodem, uz snad posledni dva roky jsme nikdy na silvestra nebyli opili > (tak to byvalo drive) a mam z toho radost !!!! Dobre da. Aleluja. Darjeeling! [Kazdy at si doplni podle sve tradice.] Stepan Kasal >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Jan 1 16:34:49 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA07854; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 16:34:49 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA07851 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 16:34:48 +0100 Received: from zp999a.zivpo.cz (ms.zivpo.cz [195.146.106.228]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA13378 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 16:34:47 +0100 (MET) Received: by ms.zivpo.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 16:34:46 +0100 Message-ID: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A390103EE27@PUEX1C1> From: Toman Lukás To: "'caj@dione.zcu.cz'" Subject: RE: Caj:Vzpominka na Pardubice Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 16:34:55 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > > Zajimalo by mne kde berete ty Vzpominky na Pardubice, > > > Omdurman, Jerusalem atd. Vim ze se to da koupit treba > > > v Amane pod prozaickymi nazvy Kardamomovy, > > > Skoricovy caj atd..., ale zajimalo by mne jestli si to nekdo > > > micha doma, > > > > Jojo. Vzpominku na Pardubice si micham sam. V nasi cajovne ji > > ani neprodavaj. Tak jsem se ptal na recept a bylo mi doporuceno, > > abych pouzil Assam a smichal ho s badyanem (drtit v hmozdiri na > > mensi kousky). Pak uzavrit do nadoby a nechat dva dny lezet > > (udajne se maji promichat vune atd...). Vysledek je chutove > > dobrej, cenove taky (na 100 g assamu jsem pouzil 2 balicky badyanu, > > kazdy ma asi 5 hvezdic). A na bezny hrnek ti staci cajova lzicka. > > Jak dlouho macet, na to musis prijit sam. Me se osvedcila voda asi > > 3 minuty po varu a macet cca. 4-5 minut (tradice) > > Ja ty nazvy znam pouze z Dobrych cajoven a casto mivaji na > sobe znak pro > ochranu patentu (ci jak se tomu rika...zkratka ze je to jejich napad) > ...takove to C v krouzku. > Pavel Ano, to mozna maji. Ale co ja s tim. Prodavat to nehodlam, takze me to (c) zas tak moc nezajima. A sam si to muzu nazyvat jak chci... 8-))) Galenius >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Sat Jan 2 12:55:18 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA09634; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 12:55:18 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA09631 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 12:55:15 +0100 Received: from voskovec.radio.cz (voskovec.radio.cz [194.108.168.111]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA19765 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 12:55:15 +0100 (MET) Received: from ierich.radio.cz (ierich.radio.cz [194.108.168.92]) by voskovec.radio.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA07593 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 11:56:11 +0100 (MET) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 12:54:35 +0100 (PST) From: Risko Sysala To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Vsechny caje Ciny In-Reply-To: <36895D68.4B274AEF@asysijd.cz> Message-ID: X-X-Sender: risko@voskovec.radio.cz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id MAA09632 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz HOLA IN 1999! Cau Jene, ja sic typografickou skolu nemam (ale ucebnicove kurzy jo) a presto se snazim sve myslenky jak ma byt ztvarnit. Takze se k (malym) typografum hlasim :)))) ... o tom ale nekde jinde a jindy. Caj je az ted, silvan byl bohu... fernetovy! Risko On Tue, 29 Dec 1998, Jan Bourek wrote: > >    Je velice pekne graficky i typograficky upravena.  Zejmena to druhe je v dnesni > > dobe vzacnost -- soucasne knihy vypadaji, jako kdyz sazec nad ranem rychle > > dodelaval zhavy clanek, kdyz uz mely rotacky pred pul hodinou jet.  A soucasne > > noviny jsou takove, ze by s nima sazec driv letel obloukem. > > Jsem rad, ze nekoho na tomto svete zajima i typograficka stranka publikace, nemohu nez > souhlasit s nazorem, ze vetsina soucasnych publikaci jsou shity (i obsahove). Ale je > to logicke, protoze dnes ma moznost sazet knihu kdokoliv, kdo ma pocitac a nejaky > software, bohuzel temto lidem chybi zakladni typograficke vzdelani, znalost pravidel > sazby a tak. Na Grafarne nam vzdy rikali, abychom tak nedopadli, tudiz abychom se > ucili.PS.: Jsi z oboru, clovece? > > > > Jinak preju taky hezky vanoce (opet asi na blate :((( ) a veselyho silvestra > > > (mimochodem je mezi vami takovy nadsenec ze pije caj (misto sampana) i na > > > silvestra?) > > No ja to chci tento rok zkusit, bude nas par pratel, ja budu cajovat, o pulnoci si > pripiju s kamarady Sangrii (mozna cajem), jinak budeme v klidu debatovat o vsem > moznem. Mimochodem, uz snad posledni dva roky jsme nikdy na silvestra nebyli opili > (tak to byvalo drive) a mam z toho radost !!!! > > ahoj > *JB* > > > >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Jan 4 08:16:12 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA13364; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 08:16:12 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA13361 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 08:16:09 +0100 Received: from sun.fsid.cvut.cz (sun.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA28970 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 08:16:09 +0100 (MET) Received: from student.fsid.cvut.cz (student.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.3]) by sun.fsid.cvut.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA08009 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 07:16:08 GMT Received: from FSICD1/SpoolDir by student.fsid.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.21); 4 Jan 99 08:16:10 MET-1MEST Received: from SpoolDir by FSICD1 (Mercury 1.21); 4 Jan 99 08:15:48 MET-1MEST From: "Jan Kasparek, student" Organization: FSI CVUT, Prague To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 08:15:44 MET-1MEST Subject: Caj: Caj na Silvestru X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-ID: <1DC1DB746EC@student.fsid.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ahoj lidicky, jsem tu poprve v novem roce a naval mailu ani nebyl tak strasny, pouze 59 kousku. Ted se trochu zminim o tom, co jsem delal na Novy rok. Zhruba asi v 21:00 jsem vyrazil se dvemi prateli za novorocni ocistnou koupeli, letos v jizerske Kamenici. Byl to opravu skvely zazitek, probijeni se k vode, koupel pri svitu svicky a hlavne ta ledova voda!! Po navratu jsem vse pripravil na "Cajovy obrad". Tak nejak se tento nazev u mych pratel vzil, ikdyz slo spise o pratelske posezeni u caje. Melo to vsak dve faze: nejdrive jsme provedli 108 poklon, jak je zvykem v japonskych klasterech, za zvuku zvonecku. Kazda poklona nas mela ocistit od jednoho hrichu. To bylo trochu formalni, ale zase ne tak moc. Pak nastala ta volnejsi faze, kdy jsem pro pratele pripravil Puer a povidali jsme si o nem i o cajich vseobecne. Bylo opravdu moc pekne. Zatim jsem neco podobneho delal pouze dvakrat a doufam, ze se z toho stane tradice. Vsechny zdravi, caj caj, Straka P.S: K Vanocum jsem si koupil sqelou nebryndavou (jupiiii) konvicku a to v normalni keramice.__________________________________ Jan Straka Kasparek E-mail: kasparek@student.fsid.cvut.cz http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek Pozvanka pro cajomilce: http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek/tea.htm >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Jan 4 09:24:26 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA13509; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 09:24:26 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA13506 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 09:24:25 +0100 Received: from kanec.linux (kanec.plemdat.czn.cz [194.213.228.200]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA30335 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 09:24:17 +0100 (MET) Received: from milan (milan.plemdat.czn.cz [223.45.6.152]) by kanec.linux (8.8.5/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id JAA31895 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 09:19:22 GMT Message-ID: <000e01be37bb$9e6d2e40$98062ddf@milan> From: "=?iso-8859-2?Q?Milan_=C8ervenka?=" To: Subject: Caj: Re: Caj na Silvestru Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 09:24:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz -----Původní zpráva----- Od: Jan Kasparek, student Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz Datum: 4. ledna 1999 9:19 Předmět: Caj: Caj na Silvestru >Ahoj lidicky, >jsem tu poprve v novem roce a naval mailu ani nebyl tak strasny, >pouze 59 kousku. Ted se trochu zminim o tom, co jsem delal na Novy >rok. >Zhruba asi v 21:00 jsem vyrazil se dvemi prateli za novorocni >ocistnou koupeli, letos v jizerske Kamenici. Byl to opravu skvely >zazitek, probijeni se k vode, koupel pri svitu svicky a hlavne ta >ledova voda!! Po navratu jsem vse pripravil na "Cajovy obrad". Tak >nejak se tento nazev u mych pratel vzil, ikdyz slo spise o pratelske >posezeni u caje. Melo to vsak dve faze: nejdrive jsme provedli 108 >poklon, jak je zvykem v japonskych klasterech, za zvuku zvonecku. >Kazda poklona nas mela ocistit od jednoho hrichu. To bylo trochu >formalni, ale zase ne tak moc. Pak nastala ta volnejsi faze, kdy jsem >pro pratele pripravil Puer a povidali jsme si o nem i o cajich >vseobecne. Bylo opravdu moc pekne. >Zatim jsem neco podobneho delal pouze dvakrat a doufam, ze se z toho >stane tradice. > > Vsechny zdravi, caj caj, > Straka > >P.S: K Vanocum jsem si koupil sqelou nebryndavou (jupiiii) konvicku a >to v normalni keramice.__________________________________ >Jan Straka Kasparek Cau Strako a vsici co prezili slivestra, ja mam sice problem hrichu vyresenej jinak (nejen protoze nesnasim studenou vodu), ale jinak se muj silvestr docela podobal. Byli sme v jedny maly vesnicce na Cesky Sibiri a furt sme varili caj (prestoze jsme my cajari byli v mensine) Taky sem si poprve v zivote pripijel cajem, uz nevim ani jakym, ackoli vsichni ostatni se drzeli tradicniho sampusu. Tenhle silvestr mi pres rty nepretekla ani kapka alkoholu, takze se zda, za ma promena z pivnika na cajnika probehla zdarne. At se caji dari i v roce 1999 ! V Kristu Milan P.S. Strako objevils ty moje mejly ohledne GC? >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Jan 4 14:05:41 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA14172; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 14:05:41 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA14169 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 14:05:40 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA06313 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 14:05:39 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA02652 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 14:05:44 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 4 Jan 99 14:05:40 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 4 Jan 99 14:05:16 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 14:05:07 +100 Subject: RE: Caj:Vzpominka na Pardubice X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <2927F606620@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > Ja ty nazvy znam pouze z Dobrych cajoven a casto mivaji na > > sobe znak pro > > ochranu patentu (ci jak se tomu rika...zkratka ze je to jejich napad) > > ...takove to C v krouzku. > > Pavel > > Ano, to mozna maji. Ale co ja s tim. Prodavat to nehodlam, takze me > to (c) zas tak moc nezajima. A sam si to muzu nazyvat jak chci... 8-))) Ech heee, nerad bych byl spatne pochopen, nechtel jsem tim nikomu sahat na pravo michat si doma dle sve libovule a pro mne za mne at si to klidne prodava kdo chce. Jen jsem reagoval na dotaz, kde se berou tyhle nazvy, no a tak to vypada, ze nektere jsou primo od Spolku milcu caje (tedy DC). Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Jan 4 14:27:00 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA14259; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 14:27:00 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA14256 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 14:26:59 +0100 Received: from ara.zf.jcu.cz (root@ara.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA06448 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 14:26:59 +0100 (MET) Received: from zf.jcu.cz (hydra.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.8]) by ara.zf.jcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA18890 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 14:26:58 +0100 Message-ID: <3692132D.755499BC@zf.jcu.cz> Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 14:27:09 +0100 From: Libor Matousek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj:DC v C.Budejovicich References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Pavel Hlavacek wrote: > Mili ceskobudejovicaci a i vy jini znali, > o vanocich bych rad navstivil DC v C.Budejovicich, lec coby prazak > vubec netusim, kde je. Coby geodetovi mi staci nazev ulice nebo aspon > priblizny popisek. Vim jen, ze je nekde v centru. A pracuji tam moji > rodice, takze ty taky neco budou znat z mistniho nazvoslovi. - vazeny Pavle ! Sice Budejky znam (studuju tady, alespon zatim... uvidime, co bude po zkouskach), ale bohuzel jsem byl na svatky samozrejme doma. Do Budejic jsem se vracel pouze pracovne - do Johanky (prodejna s keramikou, caji a eterickymi oleji a lampami) - brigada. Snad priste.... Maty >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Jan 4 16:50:23 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA14768; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:50:23 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA14765 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:50:22 +0100 Received: from zp999a.zivpo.cz (ms.zivpo.cz [195.146.106.228]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA10702 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:50:22 +0100 (MET) Received: by ms.zivpo.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:50:22 +0100 Message-ID: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A390103EE40@PUEX1C1> From: Toman Lukás To: "'caj@dione.zcu.cz'" Subject: RE: Caj:Vzpominka na Pardubice Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:49:50 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > > Ja ty nazvy znam pouze z Dobrych cajoven a casto mivaji na > > > sobe znak pro > > > ochranu patentu (ci jak se tomu rika...zkratka ze je to > jejich napad) > > > ...takove to C v krouzku. > > > Pavel > > > > Ano, to mozna maji. Ale co ja s tim. Prodavat to nehodlam, takze me > > to (c) zas tak moc nezajima. A sam si to muzu nazyvat jak > chci... 8-))) > > Ech heee, nerad bych byl spatne pochopen, nechtel jsem tim > nikomu sahat > na pravo michat si doma dle sve libovule a pro mne za mne at > si to klidne > prodava kdo chce. Jen jsem reagoval na dotaz, kde se berou > tyhle nazvy, no > a tak to vypada, ze nektere jsou primo od Spolku milcu caje (tedy DC). Ano, to nejspis jsou. Ale proc ja bych si to mel pojmenovavat jinak, kdyz je to to same... Galenius >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Jan 5 08:19:56 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA16344; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 08:19:56 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA16341 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 08:19:54 +0100 Received: from kanec.linux (kanec.plemdat.czn.cz [194.213.228.200]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA19174 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 08:19:46 +0100 (MET) Received: from milan (milan.plemdat.czn.cz [223.45.6.152]) by kanec.linux (8.8.5/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id IAA04958 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 08:14:55 GMT Message-ID: <000601be387b$c8ea3e40$98062ddf@milan> From: "=?iso-8859-2?Q?Milan_=C8ervenka?=" To: Subject: Re: Caj:Vzpominka na Pardubice Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 08:19:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz -----Původní zpráva----- Od: Toman Lukás Komu: 'caj@dione.zcu.cz' Datum: 4. ledna 1999 17:55 Předmět: RE: Caj:Vzpominka na Pardubice >> > > Ja ty nazvy znam pouze z Dobrych cajoven a casto mivaji na >> > > sobe znak pro >> > > ochranu patentu (ci jak se tomu rika...zkratka ze je to >> jejich napad) >> > > ...takove to C v krouzku. >> > > Pavel >> > >> > Ano, to mozna maji. Ale co ja s tim. Prodavat to nehodlam, takze me >> > to (c) zas tak moc nezajima. A sam si to muzu nazyvat jak >> chci... 8-))) >> >> Ech heee, nerad bych byl spatne pochopen, nechtel jsem tim >> nikomu sahat >> na pravo michat si doma dle sve libovule a pro mne za mne at >> si to klidne >> prodava kdo chce. Jen jsem reagoval na dotaz, kde se berou >> tyhle nazvy, no >> a tak to vypada, ze nektere jsou primo od Spolku milcu caje (tedy DC). > >Ano, to nejspis jsou. Ale proc ja bych si to mel pojmenovavat jinak, kdyz je >to to same... > > Galenius No tak chlapi nehadejte se. Ja sem to asi spatne definoval. Dobraci proste nakupujou ovoneny caje ruzny kvality a tem pak vymejslej roztodivne nazvy popularni mezi lidem prostym, nebot z vlastni zkusenosti empiricke je mi znamo, ze caj slujici Malajsky tygr jest zakazniky vice vyzadovan nez caj pojmenovaný Kokosovy ackoli obe jest caj cerny kokosem ovoneny. Docela ale upadli s jinymi druhy caju, kde proste prelozili anglicky nazev a hodili si na to cecko. To je, prosim, nesportovni, protestuji! V Kristu Milan >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Jan 5 10:03:54 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA16929; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 10:03:54 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA16926 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 10:03:53 +0100 Received: from helios10.civ.zcu.cz (helios10.civ.zcu.cz [147.228.103.30]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA21633 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 10:03:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (kotala@localhost) by helios10.civ.zcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA07999 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 10:03:52 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: helios10.civ.zcu.cz: kotala owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 10:03:52 +0100 (MET) From: Zdenek Kotala X-Sender: kotala@helios10.civ.zcu.cz To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Vanocni darek pro cleny konference! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Zdravim cajomilniky :-) Tak, jelikoz se nekolikrat objevilo v konferenci tema: archiv konference tak teda Vam mohu zdelit, ze archiv zacal jiz fungovat (jiz pred vanoci, ale nestihl jsem poslat maila), zatim jen pres e-mail (na WWW se pracuje), ale alespon neco. Tak jak tedy na to: na adresu majordomo@dione.zcu.cz (!!! POZOR !!!) poslat v tele dopisu tento text (nic jineho): "index caj" Za nejakou dobu prijde seznam archivu (je clenen po mesici). Pak staci si vybrat patricny mesic a poslat opet na adresu majordomo@dione.zcu.cz tento text: get caj Takze preji prijemne hrabani v archivech se salkem dobreho caje. Zdenek Hlipa Kotala >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Jan 5 12:19:33 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA17561; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:19:33 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA17558 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:19:32 +0100 Received: from voskovec.radio.cz (voskovec.radio.cz [194.108.168.111]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA26914 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:19:32 +0100 (MET) Received: from ierich.radio.cz (ierich.radio.cz [194.108.168.92]) by voskovec.radio.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA12852 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 11:20:26 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:18:45 +0100 (PST) From: Risko Sysala To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Vanocni darek pro cleny konference! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-X-Sender: risko@voskovec.radio.cz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz A TO JA SI DELAM SVU ARCHIV! Predstava hrabat se v te zaplave znovu..... ale s cajem jde vse dobre! Chutna vam Roibos? Mne ano. Nelze s nim nejakou specialitku udelati? Risko On Tue, 5 Jan 1999, Zdenek Kotala wrote: > Zdravim cajomilniky :-) > > Tak, jelikoz se nekolikrat objevilo v konferenci tema: > > archiv konference > > tak teda Vam mohu zdelit, ze archiv zacal jiz fungovat > (jiz pred vanoci, ale nestihl jsem poslat maila), zatim > jen pres e-mail (na WWW se pracuje), ale alespon neco. > > Tak jak tedy na to: > > na adresu majordomo@dione.zcu.cz (!!! POZOR !!!) > poslat v tele dopisu tento text (nic jineho): "index caj" > Za nejakou dobu prijde seznam archivu (je clenen po mesici). > > Pak staci si vybrat patricny mesic a poslat opet na > adresu majordomo@dione.zcu.cz tento text: > > get caj > > Takze preji prijemne hrabani v archivech se salkem dobreho caje. > > Zdenek Hlipa Kotala > > > > >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Jan 5 12:28:35 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA17619; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:28:35 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA17616 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:28:34 +0100 Received: from matsrv.math.cas.cz (IDENT:kasal@math-gw.math.cas.cz [147.231.89.66]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA27289 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:28:34 +0100 (MET) Received: (from kasal@localhost) by matsrv.math.cas.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA29080 for caj@dione.zcu.cz; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:28:33 +0100 From: Stepan Kasal Message-Id: <199901051128.MAA29080@matsrv.math.cas.cz> Subject: Caj: Rooibos s medunkou To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:28:32 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: from "Risko Sysala" at Jan 5, 99 12:18:45 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Caj (i jine byli). > Chutna vam Roibos? Mne ano. Nelze s nim nejakou specialitku udelati? Rooibos (zvany tez podle vyrazneho aromatu sloni trava) lze po vzoru pane Krivanka, majitele Ruzove cajovny, misiti s medunkou. Je to dobre. Lide, kteri nechteji pozrit tein, mohou pouzit rooibosu jako nahrazky caje do napoju jako Touareg (s matou) ci Data. Stepan >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Jan 5 12:41:40 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA17667; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:41:40 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA17664 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:41:39 +0100 Received: from voskovec.radio.cz (voskovec.radio.cz [194.108.168.111]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA27455 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:41:39 +0100 (MET) Received: from ierich.radio.cz (ierich.radio.cz [194.108.168.92]) by voskovec.radio.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA12931 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 11:42:37 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:40:55 +0100 (PST) From: Risko Sysala To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Rooibos s medunkou In-Reply-To: <199901051128.MAA29080@matsrv.math.cas.cz> Message-ID: X-X-Sender: risko@voskovec.radio.cz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Rooibos (zvany tez podle vyrazneho aromatu sloni trava) lze po vzoru > pane Krivanka, majitele Ruzove cajovny, misiti s medunkou. Je to dobre. Roibos s medunkou se i prodava, ale ma zena po tomto zarucene skoro ihned usina.... neni to spava trava? >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Jan 5 12:47:54 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA17698; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:47:54 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA17695 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:47:53 +0100 Received: from matsrv.math.cas.cz (IDENT:kasal@math-gw.math.cas.cz [147.231.89.66]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA28010 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:47:53 +0100 (MET) Received: (from kasal@localhost) by matsrv.math.cas.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA29250 for caj@dione.zcu.cz; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:47:52 +0100 From: Stepan Kasal Message-Id: <199901051147.MAA29250@matsrv.math.cas.cz> Subject: Re: Caj: Rooibos s medunkou To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:47:52 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: from "Risko Sysala" at Jan 5, 99 12:40:55 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Dobre byli preji, > Roibos s medunkou se i prodava, ale ma zena po tomto zarucene skoro ihned > usina.... neni to spava trava? Medunka ma uklidnujici ucinky, tim by to mohlo byt. Rooibos neni uklidnujici, pokud vim, ale neni ani povzbuzujici (nema tein). Horka voda samotna ma na mne nekdy uspavaci ucinek. (I kdyz prijdu ze zimy do teple mistnosti.) Stepan >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Jan 5 12:52:32 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA17741; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:52:32 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA17738 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:52:31 +0100 Received: from kiv.zcu.cz (ur404p01-rek.rek.zcu.cz [147.228.71.108]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA27687; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:52:30 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3691FCFF.A78AF356@kiv.zcu.cz> Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 12:52:31 +0100 From: Pavel Baxa Organization: ZCU Plzen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: cs,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Rooibos s medunkou References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Risko Sysala wrote: > > Chutna vam Roibos? Mne ano. Nelze s nim nejakou specialitku udelati? > Videl jsem dokonce smichane mate a rooibos, ale nenasel jsem v sobe tu odvahu... Jo - a panove, pozor! Myslim, ze rooibos je vyborny "mezistupen", pokud se pokousite zmenit orientaci sve nejdrazsi bytosti z ovocnaku na opravdovy caj. Pokud dotycna sladi, kydnete ji do rooibosu med, to vubec neni spatne. Pavel B. >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Jan 5 13:04:53 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA17810; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:04:53 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA17807 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:04:52 +0100 Received: from voskovec.radio.cz (voskovec.radio.cz [194.108.168.111]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA28288 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:04:52 +0100 (MET) Received: from ierich.radio.cz (ierich.radio.cz [194.108.168.92]) by voskovec.radio.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA13031 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:05:51 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:04:09 +0100 (PST) From: Risko Sysala To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Rooibos s medunkou In-Reply-To: <199901051147.MAA29250@matsrv.math.cas.cz> Message-ID: X-X-Sender: risko@voskovec.radio.cz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Medunka ma uklidnujici ucinky, tim by to mohlo byt. Rooibos neni uklidnujici, > pokud vim, ale neni ani povzbuzujici (nema tein). Horka voda samotna ma na > mne nekdy uspavaci ucinek. (I kdyz prijdu ze zimy do teple mistnosti.) > > Stepan > TO BUDE TOU MEDUNKOU... JE TO CHUTNE! >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Jan 5 13:27:14 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA17903; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:27:14 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA17900 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:27:13 +0100 Received: from kiv.zcu.cz (ur404p01-rek.rek.zcu.cz [147.228.71.108]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA29152; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:27:13 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <36920521.89D57559@kiv.zcu.cz> Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 13:27:13 +0100 From: Pavel Baxa Organization: ZCU Plzen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: cs,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Rooibos s medunkou References: <199901051147.MAA29250@matsrv.math.cas.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Stepan Kasal wrote: > > Rooibos neni uklidnujici, > pokud vim, ale neni ani povzbuzujici (nema tein). > To je zajimaci. Ja si myslim, ze lehce povzbuzuje i bez kofeinu. Jo - pro Riska tu mam nejake recepty z http://www.rooibos.com v puvodnim anglickem zneni s mym amaterskym prekladem a komentari: Iced Tea: --------- Prepare a strong concentrate of RooibosTM Tea by boiling two quarts of water with at least ten tea bags. Simmer for 30 minutes until the tea is very strong and mahogany in color. Cool and store in the refrigerator. Serve with lots of ice, a squeeze of lemon, or a sprig of fresh mint. neboli Ledovy caj: ------------------ Pripravte silny koncentrat rooibosu - ve 2 litrech vody (1 quart = 0.946 litru) varte nejmene 10 sacku (u nas se prodava sypany, takze sacek = asi jedna rovna cajova lzicka) po dobu 30 minut, dokud nevznikne velmi silny caj mahagonove barvy. Dejte vychladit. Podavejte se spoustou ledu, stavou z citronu nebo s vetvickou cerstve maty. South African Punch: -------------------- Prepare a quart of strong RooibosTM Tea, and while hot, add 160g of sugar and stir until dissolved. When cool, add one liter orange juice, one liter apple juice, three cups spring water and one liter ginger ale. Garnish with cherries, mint, apple and lemon slices. neboli Jihoafricky punc: ------------------------ Do litru horkeho silneho caje z rooibosu vrazte 170 g cukru a michejte, az se rozpusti. Po vychlazeni pridejte litr pomerancoveho dzusu, litr jablecneho dzusu (mame pro nej takove velmi archaicke slovo "mos~t"), tri salky pramenite vody a litr zazvorove limonady. Ozdobte trasnickami, matou nebo platky jablek a citronu. Poznamka: pozvete sve kamarady, bude toho 4.5 litru. Pavel B. >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Jan 5 13:48:29 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA18125; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:48:29 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA18122 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:48:28 +0100 From: sladek.roman@spt.cz Received: from dns1.spt.cz (dns1.spt.cz [194.228.96.20]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA29802 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:48:24 +0100 (MET) Received: from dns3.spt.cz ([194.228.97.30]) by dns1.spt.cz (8.9.1.ors/8.9.ors) with ESMTP id NAA14548 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:48:22 +0100 Received: from om2.spt.cz (om2.apl.spt.cz [172.26.11.18]) by dns3.spt.cz (8.9.1.ors/8.9.ors) with ESMTP id NAA03988 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:48:22 +0100 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by om2.spt.cz (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6/SPT-OM 2.0) with SMTP id NAA18301 for caj@dione.zcu.cz; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:48:21 +0100 (MET) X-OpenMail-Hops: 2 Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:46:33 +0100 X-OpenMail-Transport-Id: Message-Id: <"H00000ca0018313d*Roman.Sladek/OU=ODST-JC/OU=IAT/O=SPT/PRMD=SPT/ADMD=SPT400/C=CZ"@MHS> Subject: Caj: karemel MIME-Version: 1.0 TO: caj@dione.zcu.cz Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="openmail-part-033346b6-00000001" Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz --openmail-part-033346b6-00000001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="BDY.TXT" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="BDY.TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit jsem uplny laik, ale nekde jsem slysel o piti caje s karamelem, muze to nekdo ozrejmit? ----------------------------------------------------------- Roman Sladek SPT TELECOM, a.s. tel. +420 38 7727182 GR IT/SITN-NA fax. +420 38 7311034 Knezskodvorska 25 370 04 Ceske Budejovice mailto:sladek.roman@spt.cz intranet: http://172.17.11.87 ----------------------------------------------------------- --openmail-part-033346b6-00000001-- >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Jan 5 15:03:35 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA18313; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 15:03:35 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA18310 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 15:03:34 +0100 Received: from matsrv.math.cas.cz (IDENT:kasal@math-gw.math.cas.cz [147.231.89.66]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA31831 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 15:03:34 +0100 (MET) Received: (from kasal@localhost) by matsrv.math.cas.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA30338 for caj@dione.zcu.cz; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 15:03:28 +0100 From: Stepan Kasal Message-Id: <199901051403.PAA30338@matsrv.math.cas.cz> Subject: Re: Caj: karemel To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 15:03:28 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <"H00000ca0018313d*Roman.Sladek/OU=ODST-JC/OU=IAT/O=SPT/PRMD=SPT/ADMD=SPT400/C=CZ"@MHS> from "sladek.roman@spt.cz" at Jan 5, 99 01:46:33 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Dobry den, > jsem uplny laik, ale nekde jsem slysel o piti caje s karamelem, muze to > nekdo ozrejmit? domnivam se, ze se jedna o cerny caj aromatisovany karamelovou esenci. Voni po karamelu, chutna jako caj. Ctiteli opravdoveho caje neni prilis uznavan. Stepan >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Jan 5 15:38:38 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA18419; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 15:38:38 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA18416 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 15:38:37 +0100 Received: from kanec.linux (kanec.plemdat.czn.cz [194.213.228.200]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA32332 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 15:38:29 +0100 (MET) Received: from milan (milan.plemdat.czn.cz [223.45.6.152]) by kanec.linux (8.8.5/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id PAA07251 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 15:33:37 GMT Message-ID: <004b01be38b9$12c0c100$98062ddf@milan> From: "=?iso-8859-2?Q?Milan_=C8ervenka?=" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Rooibos s medunkou Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 15:38:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz >Videl jsem dokonce smichane mate a rooibos, ale nenasel jsem >v sobe tu odvahu... .... jihoamericani ji nasli davno: MATE CARNIVAL Pražené listy cesmíny, kakaový bob, rooibos, kousky mandlí, okvětní lístky slunečnice a chrpy, květy kaktusu. Podáváme ve skleničce o obsahu 0,1l s konvičkou horké vody k dolévání. 35,- V Kristu Milan >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Jan 5 15:51:17 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA18493; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 15:51:17 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA18490 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 15:51:17 +0100 Received: from ara.zf.jcu.cz (root@ara.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA00024 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 15:51:16 +0100 (MET) Received: from zf.jcu.cz (hydra.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.8]) by ara.zf.jcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA19189 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 15:51:11 +0100 Message-ID: <369226EA.245C9CCA@zf.jcu.cz> Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 15:51:22 +0100 From: Libor Matousek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Rooibos s medunkou References: <004b01be38b9$12c0c100$98062ddf@milan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Milan Červenka wrote: > >Videl jsem dokonce smichane mate a rooibos, ale nenasel jsem > >v sobe tu odvahu... > > .... jihoamericani ji nasli davno: > > MATE CARNIVAL Pražené listy cesmíny, kakaový bob, rooibos, kousky mandlí, > okvětní lístky slunečnice a chrpy, květy kaktusu. Podáváme ve skleničce o > obsahu 0,1l s konvičkou horké vody k dolévání. > 35,- - to je jak vypsany z nejakeho Cajovnicku nebo Pitelnicku :o) Milane, Ty pises proste jako kniha. Ted me napada: - PIGI caj - prach z cajovych zahrad, pytlik z ciste buniciny. Dodava se s konvickou horke vody na dolevani. Cena 10 haleru (skoda, ze uz nejsou 1 halire). - vetsinou Cechu velmi oblibeny caj !!! Ne muj - FUJ !!! Doporucuji Pi Lo Chun... je preci skoro JARO (alespon u nas v C.B.) Maty Pro Pavla Baxu a Ctirada Hajka: Vazeni nevirtualni pratele, dekuji jeste jednou (i za ty prijemny maily o nasem setkani) za spolecne pocajovani. Doufam, ze nebylo posledni, protoze i pro mne to byla velka cest. Na dalsi podobne setkani se tesi Maty. P.S. Pavle, ty kuchari jeden.... Varime z rooibosu.... Pavel Baxa - uvazuj o tom ! >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 6 07:52:41 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA23158; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 07:52:41 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA23155 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 07:52:38 +0100 Received: from kanec.linux (kanec.plemdat.czn.cz [194.213.228.200]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA12642 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 07:52:17 +0100 (MET) Received: from milan (milan.plemdat.czn.cz [223.45.6.152]) by kanec.linux (8.8.5/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id HAA10685 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 07:47:15 GMT Message-ID: <000601be3941$16f476d0$98062ddf@milan> From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Milan_=C8ervenka?=" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Rooibos s medunkou Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 07:52:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz >> MATE CARNIVAL Pražené listy cesmíny, kakaový bob, rooibos, kousky mandlí, >> okvětní lístky slunečnice a chrpy, květy kaktusu. Podáváme ve skleničce o >> obsahu 0,1l s konvičkou horké vody k dolévání. >> 35,- > >- to je jak vypsany z nejakeho Cajovnicku nebo Pitelnicku :o) Milane, Ty pises >proste jako kniha. ne jako vypsany ! To je vypsany z ceniku Galerijni cajovny v Benesove. Ohledne PIGI caje - ja mit cajovnu, tak nevaham a dam ho do nabidky, za 10Kc v omlacenym ceskym porcelanovym hrnku a kusem okoralyho citronu a zvlhlym cukrem. A vubec, je osklive posklebovat se caji ktery nam v detstvi nahradil materske mleko a vydrzel s nami az do puberty. Navic je o nem i pisen, coz se treba o Oolongu nepostestilo. V Kristu Milan >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 6 08:08:19 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA23220; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 08:08:19 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA23217 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 08:08:18 +0100 Received: from zp999a.zivpo.cz (ms.zivpo.cz [195.146.106.228]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA12593 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 08:08:17 +0100 (MET) Received: by ms.zivpo.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 08:08:14 +0100 Message-ID: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A390103EE4D@PUEX1C1> From: Toman Lukás To: "'caj@dione.zcu.cz'" Subject: RE: Caj: Rooibos s medunkou Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 08:08:13 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > >> MATE CARNIVAL Pralené listy cesmíny, kakaový bob, > rooibos, kousky > mandlí, > >> okvetní lístky slunecnice a chrpy, kvety kaktusu. Podáváme > ve sklenicce o > >> obsahu 0,1l s konvickou horké vody k dolévání. > >> 35,- > > > >- to je jak vypsany z nejakeho Cajovnicku nebo Pitelnicku > :o) Milane, Ty > pises > >proste jako kniha. > > > > ne jako vypsany ! To je vypsany z ceniku Galerijni cajovny v Benesove. > Ohledne PIGI caje - ja mit cajovnu, tak nevaham a dam ho do > nabidky, za 10Kc > v omlacenym ceskym porcelanovym hrnku a kusem okoralyho > citronu a zvlhlym > cukrem. A vubec, je osklive posklebovat se caji ktery nam v > detstvi nahradil > materske mleko a vydrzel s nami az do puberty. Navic je o nem > i pisen, coz > se treba o Oolongu nepostestilo. > V Kristu Milan Hm... dobrej napad. Zkusim to navrhnout Pacousovi z Pulnocni cajovny... Treba to pouzije... 8-)))) Galenius >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 6 09:29:29 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA23403; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 09:29:29 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA23400 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 09:29:28 +0100 Received: from kiv.zcu.cz (ur404p01-rek.rek.zcu.cz [147.228.71.108]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA14894; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 09:29:27 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <36931EE7.62AEA684@kiv.zcu.cz> Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 09:29:27 +0100 From: Pavel Baxa Organization: ZCU Plzen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: cs,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Postrehy - rooibos, pigi References: <000601be3941$16f476d0$98062ddf@milan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ahoj vy tam! Stepan Kasal wrote: > Horka voda samotna ma na mne nekdy uspavaci ucinek. > (I kdyz prijdu ze zimy do teple mistnosti.) A staci se na ni divat nebo se s ni musi clovek sprchovat? Ja bych nerad... rozumejte... Vanoce uz byly... na myti casu dost... ;^) Milan Červenka wrote: > Ohledne PIGI caje - ja mit cajovnu, tak nevaham a dam ho do nabidky, za 10Kc > v omlacenym ceskym porcelanovym hrnku a kusem okoralyho citronu a zvlhlym > cukrem. A vubec, je osklive posklebovat se caji ktery nam v detstvi nahradil > materske mleko a vydrzel s nami az do puberty. Navic je o nem i pisen, coz > se treba o Oolongu nepostestilo. O oolongu zpiva treba Abba pisen 'So OoLong' ;^) Milan Červenka wrote: > MATE CARNIVAL Pražené listy cesmíny, kakaový bob, rooibos, kousky mandlí, > okvětní lístky slunečnice a chrpy, květy kaktusu. Podáváme ve skleničce o > obsahu 0,1l s konvičkou horké vody k dolévání. > 35,- To vypada, ze pred karnevalem vymetli spizirnu. Jak to vypada s pomerem jednotlivych slozek? Libor Matousek wrote: > P.S. > Pavle, ty kuchari jeden.... Varime z rooibosu.... Pavel Baxa - uvazuj o tom! To je riskantni krok, protoze 99% tech tam nahore netusi, co je rooibos a vsadim se, ze by si moji knihu hbite spojili s knihou podobneho nazvu a zakazali ji... Navic - dva recepty opsane odjinud na knihu nestaci. Pravda, mohl bych postupovat klasickou cestou autoru kucharskych knih: nahodne vyberte nekolik desitek receptu ze starsich kucharek. Nepatrne zmente pomer ingredienci a pridejte rooibos v libovolne podobe (napr. "podlevejte silnym vyluhem z rooibosu" nebo "vmichejte jemnou moucku z drceneho rujbosu..."). U kazdeho jidla nezapomente podotknout cosi o nezamenitelne chuti. Ale to uz je uplne off-topic. Pardon. Pavel Baxa >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 6 10:54:04 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA23642; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 10:54:04 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA23639 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 10:54:04 +0100 Received: from kanec.linux (kanec.plemdat.czn.cz [194.213.228.200]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA17287 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 10:53:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from milan (milan.plemdat.czn.cz [223.45.6.152]) by kanec.linux (8.8.5/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id KAA11579 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 10:48:29 GMT Message-ID: <002f01be395a$6b217ff0$98062ddf@milan> From: "=?iso-8859-2?Q?Milan_=C8ervenka?=" To: Subject: Caj: Re: Postrehy - rooibos, pigi Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 10:53:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz >Milan Červenka wrote: >> MATE CARNIVAL Pražené listy cesmíny, kakaový bob, rooibos, kousky mandlí, >> okvětní lístky slunečnice a chrpy, květy kaktusu. Podáváme ve skleničce o >> obsahu 0,1l s konvičkou horké vody k dolévání. >> 35,- > >To vypada, ze pred karnevalem vymetli spizirnu. Jak to vypada s pomerem >jednotlivych slozek? No, kuprikladu ty kaktusovy kvety sem hledal celkem marne, mate a redbuse je tam asi tak nastejno, o neco mene je bobu a mandli. Okvetni listky sou v cely smesi nejnapadnejsi. Najvic z ni vono mate, kakaovy bob a mandle. V Kristu analytik Milan >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 6 11:07:27 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA23709; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 11:07:27 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA23706 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 11:07:27 +0100 Received: from ns.felk.cvut.cz (ns.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.9]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA17414 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 11:07:26 +0100 (MET) Received: from hwlab.felk.cvut.cz (hwlab.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.90]) by ns.felk.cvut.cz (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA55822 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 11:07:25 +0100 (MET) Received: from HWLAB/SpoolDir by hwlab.felk.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 6 Jan 99 11:04:52 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by HWLAB (Mercury 1.31); 6 Jan 99 11:04:42 +0100 From: "Andrle Jakub" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 11:04:42 MET-1MEST Subject: Caj: dostupnost litaratury X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.40 Message-ID: <44DC4A945A1@hwlab.felk.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz zdravim vsechny, mohl by mi nekdo rici kde se da sehnat nejaka literatura o caji. Zatim jsem videl jen Vune caje a Vsechny caje Ciny. O tech dalsich jsem jenom dozvedel z internetu. Vim, ze existuji, ale daji se jeste nekde sehnat ? dik a vsem preji salek dobreho caje --------------------------------- Andrle Jakub - student CVUT FEL - VT xandrle1@fel.cvut.cz --------------------------------- >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 6 11:33:21 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA23870; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 11:33:21 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA23867 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 11:33:20 +0100 Received: from kanec.linux (kanec.plemdat.czn.cz [194.213.228.200]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA18566 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 11:33:17 +0100 (MET) Received: from milan (milan.plemdat.czn.cz [223.45.6.152]) by kanec.linux (8.8.5/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id LAA11773 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 11:28:25 GMT Message-ID: <003801be395f$fbb8c820$98062ddf@milan> From: "=?iso-8859-2?Q?Milan_=C8ervenka?=" To: Subject: Caj: Postreh Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 11:33:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ahojah Tak jak sme meli toho slivestra, tak tam pritel Mach sel pesky tricet kilometru. Na cestu si vzal do termosky svuj oblibeny lunting (spravne pripraveny, scezeny). Jake bylo jeho prekvapeni, kdyz zjistil, ze caj pozvolna fermentuje. Po peti hodinach cesty byl z luntingu sprostej cernej caj. Nekecam pil sem ho (to). On je Mach chemik a tak mi to vysvetloval, ale ja si to nepamatuju. Takze jestli je nekdo chemik, tak tomu bude rozumet a vy ostatni bacha na to. Promena pajmutanu v puer dost zamrzi! V Kristu udiven podivnostmi stvoreni Milan >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 6 12:43:03 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA24410; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 12:43:03 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA24407 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 12:42:52 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA19644 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 12:42:41 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA09644 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 12:42:45 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 6 Jan 99 12:42:40 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 6 Jan 99 12:42:34 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 12:42:25 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Rooibos s medunkou X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <2C11FFD3D9D@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > ne jako vypsany ! To je vypsany z ceniku Galerijni cajovny v Benesove. Uz jednou tu byla zminka o cajovne v Benesove a tak se opet ptam. Jedna se o Benesouv u Prahy ? Pokud ano, kde zminena cajovna lezi, jak to tam vypada, ceny, obsluha a tak... Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 6 12:48:09 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA24430; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 12:48:09 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA24418 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 12:47:59 +0100 Received: from ara.zf.jcu.cz (root@ara.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA20475 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 12:47:48 +0100 (MET) Received: from zf.jcu.cz (hydra.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.8]) by ara.zf.jcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA06941 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 12:47:46 +0100 Message-ID: <36934D6D.BD25774A@zf.jcu.cz> Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 12:47:57 +0100 From: Libor Matousek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: dostupnost litaratury References: <44DC4A945A1@hwlab.felk.cvut.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Caj Jakube !!! > Zatim jsem videl jen Vune caje a Vsechny caje Ciny. O tech dalsich > jsem jenom dozvedel z internetu. Vim, ze existuji, ale daji se jeste > nekde sehnat ? - to jsou podle mne velmi dobre knihy... Vuni caje mam a Vsechny caje Ciny si hodlam nadelit k dvacetinam od rodicu :o) Uz jsem v ni listoval a souhlasim se vsi chvalou v teto konferenci vyslovenou - vyplati se ! Jeste shanim Cajova zastaveni, ale to bude asi slozitejsi.- urcite neprohloupis, kdyz si obe tyto knihy koupis. A kdybys nekdy na svych cestach potkal Cajova zastaveni, tak doporucuji. > dik a vsem preji salek dobreho caje - co salek, celou konev Vam preju !!! Maty >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 6 13:05:13 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA24491; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:05:13 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA24488 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:05:02 +0100 Received: from ara.zf.jcu.cz (root@ara.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA20641 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:04:51 +0100 (MET) Received: from zf.jcu.cz (hydra.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.8]) by ara.zf.jcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA07469 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:04:50 +0100 Message-ID: <3693516D.556F0F3C@zf.jcu.cz> Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 13:05:01 +0100 From: Libor Matousek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Postreh References: <003801be395f$fbb8c820$98062ddf@milan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Na cestu si vzal do termosky svuj oblibeny lunting (spravne pripraveny, > scezeny). Jake bylo jeho prekvapeni, kdyz zjistil, ze caj pozvolna > fermentuje. Po peti hodinach cesty byl z luntingu sprostej cernej caj. > Nekecam pil sem ho (to). On je Mach chemik a tak mi to vysvetloval, ale ja - musim souhlasit. V Johance jsme pro zakazniky pripravili caj - nespravne, prekapavacem - hruza, vlasy se mi z toho jezily, kdyz takhle pripravovaly zensky dokonce i Silver Needle - krasnej zelenej cajik. Ale hlavne - po nekolika hodinach zmenil cajik (postaveny na ohrivaci plotynce prekapavace na kafe) u p l n e svou barvu a byl z nej barevne c e r n y a chutove m u t a n t mezi cernym a zelenym ! Svete div se ! Doma se to samozrejme asi nikomu nepodari, protoze by urcite nenechal caj jen tak zahalet, ze. Proste se ten divnocajik na konci smeny vetsinou vyleval - jaka skoda. Obcas jsem to ochutnal - nebylo to spatny, ale uz jsem pil i lepsi cajiky (a hlavne zeleny jako zeleny, ne nejaky odstaty a ohrivany, podivne barevny). > si to nepamatuju. Takze jestli je nekdo chemik, tak tomu bude rozumet a vy > ostatni bacha na to. Promena pajmutanu v puer dost zamrzi! - Pai Mu Tan jsem mel vcera (pri uceni na zkousku - huraaa dostal jsem prvni jednusku ze skousky na VS :o) a mel kraaaasnou barvicku a vyyyyytecnou chut ! Ale na Pu Erh je nekdy taky chut - neodsuzuju ho. Chemiky prosim o vysvetleni, stejne jako Milan (fermentace se mi nezda - kdyz uz se jednou fermentace ten zelenej caj vyhnul, tak jak by ho ta potvora mohla potkat v nalevu ???, nechapu :o( Maty >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 6 13:24:54 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA24708; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:24:54 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA24705 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:24:43 +0100 Received: from ns.felk.cvut.cz (ns.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.9]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA21434 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:24:33 +0100 (MET) Received: from sun (sun.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.32]) by ns.felk.cvut.cz (8.9.1/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA69303 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:24:32 +0100 (MET) Received: from sun45.felk.cvut.cz by sun (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06333; Wed, 6 Jan 99 13:24:32 +0100 Received: by sun45.felk.cvut.cz (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27666; Wed, 6 Jan 99 13:24:31 +0100 Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:24:30 +0100 (MET) From: Tregner Vaclav student 6_98_99 k336 X-Sender: xtregner@sun45 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: dostupnost litaratury In-Reply-To: <36934D6D.BD25774A@zf.jcu.cz> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > - to jsou podle mne velmi dobre knihy... Vuni caje mam a Vsechny caje Ciny .... ^^^^^^^^^ Kde v Praze sezenu Vuni caje, poradte. Nebo obecne, v jake sekci v knihkupectvi mam cajovou literaturu hledat? Gastronomie, filozofie, kultura ... ??? Vasek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 6 13:46:55 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA24784; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:46:55 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA24781 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:46:44 +0100 Received: from matsrv.math.cas.cz (IDENT:kasal@math-gw.math.cas.cz [147.231.89.66]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA20895 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:46:33 +0100 (MET) Received: (from kasal@localhost) by matsrv.math.cas.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03808 for caj@dione.zcu.cz; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:46:28 +0100 From: Stepan Kasal Message-Id: <199901061246.NAA03808@matsrv.math.cas.cz> Subject: Re: Caj: dostupnost litaratury To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:46:28 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: from "Tregner Vaclav student 6_98_99 k336" at Jan 6, 99 01:24:30 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ahoj, > Kde v Praze sezenu Vuni caje, poradte. Nebo obecne, v jake sekci v > knihkupectvi mam cajovou literaturu hledat? Gastronomie, filozofie, > kultura ... ??? kdyz uz, tak nejspis gastronomie. Nicmene ja bych spis sazel na to, ze ji budou mit v nejake cajovne. Osobne jsem ji zakoupil ve velkoobchodu F.W.Tandoori za asi 110 korun. Nicmene tam se musi prijit s zivnostakem a min. odber je 1000 korun. Pocitam, ze tam asi tak za mesic pujdu, takze jestli chces riskovat, ze ji tam jeste budou mit, muzu Ti ji koupit. Stepan >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 6 13:53:09 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA24813; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:53:09 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA24810 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:52:58 +0100 Received: from ara.zf.jcu.cz (root@ara.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA21811 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:52:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from zf.jcu.cz (hydra.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.8]) by ara.zf.jcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA09149 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:52:02 +0100 Message-ID: <36935C7D.389159AD@zf.jcu.cz> Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 13:52:13 +0100 From: Libor Matousek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: dostupnost litaratury References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > - to jsou podle mne velmi dobre knihy... Vuni caje mam a Vsechny caje > Ciny .... > ^^^^^^^^^ > Kde v Praze sezenu Vuni caje, poradte. Nebo obecne, v jake sekci v > knihkupectvi mam cajovou literaturu hledat? Gastronomie, filozofie, > kultura ... ??? Vasku a vsichni ostatni ! Kdo hleda, najde. Ale co si budeme povidat, najit dobrou knihu o caji zas az tak jednoduchy neni, ze. Doporucuji zkouset cajovny a orienty, pripadne dobra knihkupectvi ! Maty >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 6 14:02:06 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA24877; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 14:02:06 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA24874 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 14:01:55 +0100 Received: from dahlia.mendelu.cz (dahlia.mendelu.cz [195.178.72.10]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA22398 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 14:01:45 +0100 (MET) Received: from dahlia.mendelu.cz (dahlia.mendelu.cz [195.178.72.10]) by dahlia.mendelu.cz (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA24060 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:58:42 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:58:42 +0100 (MET) From: Ivo Jancik To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Dostupnost literatury In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Pozdravy vsem pozivacum ccha. Dale tem, jez jsou z Brna a okoli, blizkeho ci dalekeho, zasilam tuto zpravu: V knihkupectvi na ulici Ceske (ne vsak u Barvice, ale v tom na hornim konci, ted nevim jmeno) jsem vcera zahledl tri svazky `Cesta caje, mysl caje' od Sosicu Sena XV. Pro ty, co nevedi --- jiz jsem to cetl a neni to o druzich caje, historii caje, pestovani caje ani nicem podobne pragmatickem, ale spise o duchovni strance caje, cajovem obradu a caji coby zivotni ceste. Kniha disponuje spoustou podnetnych myslenek; soudim, ze je spis pro duchovneji zalozene ctenare. S pozdravy, Ivos. P.S.: K postrehum ostatnich pridam svuj. Mam takovou osobni teorii --- domnivam se, ze italske `ciao' (vlachologove opravi muj chybny zapis), tedy bezny pozdrav u nas vyslovovany `cau', vznikl v oblasti Orientu a puvodne se vyslovoval `ccha' (s hackem nad prvnim c). :-) ------------------------------ jancik@mendelu.cz http://dahlia.mendelu.cz/~jancik >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 6 15:43:22 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA25319; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 15:43:22 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA25316 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 15:43:21 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA23176 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 15:43:19 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07473 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 15:43:18 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 6 Jan 99 15:43:12 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 6 Jan 99 15:42:49 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 15:42:45 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: dostupnost litaratury X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <2C421214FA7@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > - to jsou podle mne velmi dobre knihy... Vuni caje mam a Vsechny caje > Ciny .... > ^^^^^^^^^ > Kde v Praze sezenu Vuni caje, poradte. Nebo obecne, v jake sekci v > knihkupectvi mam cajovou literaturu hledat? Gastronomie, filozofie, > kultura ... ??? Protoze dotaz zni < kde v PRAZE >, budu odpovidat za Prahu. Vuni caje lze koupit bez problemu (aspon pred Novym rokem to tak bylo) primo v Dobre cajovne na Mustku. Dalsi cajovou literaturu (vcetne Vune caje) lze koupit v temer kazdem knihkupectvi s literaturou rekneme duchovni. V Praze velmi vrele doporucuji knihkupectvi v Celetne (blizko Prasne brany), na vstupnich dverich maji poznamecku, ze "duchovni literatura v prvnim patre". Myslim, ze cajova literatura je v sekci "Cina". Dale bych to typoval na knihkupectvi ve Stepanske a nebo v Opletalove ulici (obe usti z Vaclavskeho namesti). Pokud pujde o "bezne" knihkupectvi, tam moc sance nedavam, ale kdyz tak bud ta gastronomie, ale spise opet duchovni literatura. Z hlediska gastronomie je totiz caj prilis jednoducha zalezitost (pytlik zalejes horkou vodou...), vsak take o tom, jak caj varit, se ani moc nepise (o tom uz tu padlo hodne nazoru, takze by spise melo byt "jak caj NEvarit" a to by uplne stacilo). Toliko tedy Praha. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Jan 14 21:15:57 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA24210; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 21:15:57 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA24207 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 21:15:56 +0100 Received: from hermes.iol.cz ([194.228.2.40]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA21847 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 21:15:55 +0100 (MET) Received: from my-pul-n ([194.228.128.142]) by hermes.iol.cz (Post.Office MTA v3.5.2 release 221 ID# 631-57358U25000L25000S0V35) with ESMTP id cz for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 21:15:22 +0100 From: "janvacek" To: "=?ISO-8859-2?Q?=C8ajov=E1_konference?=" Subject: Caj: Hej Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:22:41 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19990114201522.AAG28290@hermes.iol.cz@my-pul-n> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Coz takhle dat si caj! Sasek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Jan 14 21:16:13 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA24220; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 21:16:13 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA24217 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 21:16:12 +0100 Received: from hermes.iol.cz ([194.228.2.40]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA22614 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 21:16:11 +0100 (MET) Received: from my-pul-n ([194.228.128.142]) by hermes.iol.cz (Post.Office MTA v3.5.2 release 221 ID# 631-57358U25000L25000S0V35) with ESMTP id cz for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 21:15:28 +0100 From: "janvacek" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Sasek Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:27:10 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <19990114201528.AAI28290@hermes.iol.cz@my-pul-n> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz ---------- > Odesílatel: Pavel Hlavacek > Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Předmět: Re: Caj: Sasek > Datum: 14. I 1999 11:18 > > > > jiz nejakou dobu skryte pozoruji vase zasvecene debaty o caji. Za tu dobu > > > jsem zjistil, ze vas dychanek ma vsecky atributy kralovstvi. Maleho, lec > > Asi to tak bude, lec nase male kralovstvi opravdu potrebuje sveho > > saska, jsem rad, ze se do sluzby prihlasil dobrovolne. > > > > prece jen kralovstvi. Jsou zde poddani, slechta, ba i kral. Jen je asi > > > vdovec. Neva, treba se najde nejaka cajova deva, hodna titulu kralovny > > > cajove konference. > > Jiste takovou mezi sebou mame, jen o sobe coby kralovna nedava > > vedet. > > > > > Zaci se ptaji mistra. "Mistre, na co myslite, kdyz pijete svuj caj.?" > > > "Na nic, medituji." > > > "A o cem?": vyzvidaji zaci. > > > "Moji mili, meditace zacina prave tehdy, kdyz neni o cem meditovat, kdyz uz > > > zbyva pouze prazdne vedomi - jsi bdely - ale na nic se nesoustredis, pouze > > > pijes caj." > > Ano? A uz se Ti to mily sasku take nekdy podarilo? > > > > P.S. Sasku dej si pozor na jazyk, i tva hlava muze sedet na krku jen velmi > > spatne. :) > > Debaty nekdy cloveka mohou privest na ruzne nove myslenky, nove veci... > Pri meditaci se dovis spousty skvelych veci, lec o teplote vody ci o > mnozstvi caje, o hodnoceni cajoven apod. ti vyssi sily informace nepodaji > ani v meditaci. > Jinak sasci mivali obcas i vysoka umrti. Na druhou stranu zname i > pribeh, kde se sasek nakonec stal kralem (a konec to urcite jeste neni). > Priznej se, sasku, ze to je post, kam smerujes ?! Kral cajoveho > kralovstvi... Ale Magnatu Cesnekovou tu asi nenajdes. > > Plavacek > > mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz > http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek Hodnoceni caje - chutna, nechutna Teplota vody - horka, vlazna, studena jak psi cumak Nove veci - co to je? Tak jakypak copak Najdu Sasek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Jan 14 21:15:58 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA24215; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 21:15:58 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA24212 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 21:15:57 +0100 Received: from hermes.iol.cz ([194.228.2.40]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA22457 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 21:15:56 +0100 (MET) Received: from my-pul-n ([194.228.128.142]) by hermes.iol.cz (Post.Office MTA v3.5.2 release 221 ID# 631-57358U25000L25000S0V35) with ESMTP id cz for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 21:15:18 +0100 From: "janvacek" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Sasek Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:21:54 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <19990114201518.AAE28290@hermes.iol.cz@my-pul-n> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz ---------- Odesílatel: Demeter Jurista Komu: Čajová konference Předmět: Re: Caj: Sasek Datum: 14. I 1999 9:22 Zdravim > jiz nejakou dobu skryte pozoruji vase zasvecene debaty o caji. Za tu dobu > jsem zjistil, ze vas dychanek ma vsecky atributy kralovstvi. Maleho, lec Asi to tak bude, lec nase male kralovstvi opravdu potrebuje sveho saska, jsem rad, ze se do sluzby prihlasil dobrovolne. > prece jen kralovstvi. Jsou zde poddani, slechta, ba i kral. Jen je asi > vdovec. Neva, treba se najde nejaka cajova deva, hodna titulu kralovny > cajové konference. Jiste takovou mezi sebou mame, jen o sobe coby kralovna nedava vedet. > Zaci se ptaji mistra. "Mistre, na co myslite, kdyz pijete svuj caj.?" > "Na nic, medituji." > "A o cem?": vyzvidaji zaci. > "Moji mili, meditace zacina prave tehdy, kdyz neni o cem meditovat, kdyz uz > zbyva pouze prazdne vedomi - jsi bdely - ale na nic se nesoustredis, pouze > pijes caj." Ano? A uz se Ti to mily sasku take nekdy podarilo? Zdravi s uctou Mita DJ P.S. Sasku dej si pozor na jazyk, i tva hlava muze sedet na krku jen velmi spatne. :) ---------- Ma hlava sedi pevne a na nic nemyslet, a pritom byt bdely i pri piti caje, je pro saska nutnost. Jinak by se hlava skutetecne mohla velmi rychle zakutalet dale od tela, nez je to vhodne. Sasek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Jan 15 07:16:32 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA25187; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 07:16:32 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA25184 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 07:16:31 +0100 From: ladislav.szatmari@st.sk Received: from cess404.st.sk (pool-b250.telecom.sk [195.146.139.250]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA27931 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 07:16:28 +0100 (MET) Received: from cess401.ais.st.sk ([196.5.13.8]) by cess404.st.sk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2232.9) id C64R9FZB; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 07:08:48 +0100 Received: by cess401.ais.st.sk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 07:14:13 +0100 Message-ID: <8F95FAFEF9CED111B4710060084618790BD06F@osmn401.rtss.st.sk> To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Jasmin Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 07:16:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Darovali mi jasminovy caj dovezeny priamo z Ciny. Je to nieco uplne ine ako jasminove caje u nas kupene. Problem je v tom, ze jasminovy caj som nikdy nepripravoval - pil som ine caje. Ma priprava jasminu zvlastnosti ? Laco >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Jan 15 08:47:18 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA25350; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:47:18 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA25347 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:47:17 +0100 Received: from max.feld.cvut.cz (max.feld.cvut.cz [147.32.192.36]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA29729 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:47:16 +0100 (MET) Received: from FELIS.FELD.CVUT.CZ (felis.feld.cvut.cz [147.32.192.68]) by max.feld.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA23521 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:47:16 +0100 Received: from FELIS/SpoolDir by FELIS.FELD.CVUT.CZ (Mercury 1.44); 15 Jan 99 08:47:16 MET-1MEST Received: from SpoolDir by FELIS (Mercury 1.44); 15 Jan 99 08:47:00 MET-1MEST From: "Petr Kvitek student" Organization: CVUT FEL student To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:46:53 MET-1MEST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Caj: Pro saska X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.40 Message-ID: <241ECE785F@FELIS.FELD.CVUT.CZ> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Cau sasku ! Uz chvili tuto konferenci sleduji, ale stale se mi zdalo, ze tu neco chybi. Byl to sasek. Fsichni to tu berou nejak moc vazne. Chce to tady kapku zpestrit. Verim, ze se Ti v nove fci bude skvele darit. pozn.: Jeden muj kamos zastava nazor, ze vetsina cajomilcu nejsou ve skutecnosti cisti cajomilci, ale jedna se o vylecene alkoholiky. Jak znamo, taci si jiz k alkoholu nemohou ani cichnout, a tak se caj stava jejich jedinym spolecensky unosnym resenim. Myslis sasku, ze by na tom mohlo neco byt ? kvita ---------------------------------------------------------------------- kvitekp@fel.cvut.cz >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Jan 15 10:12:45 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA25515; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:12:45 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA25512 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:12:45 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz ([147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA32224 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:12:44 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA06097 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:12:47 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 15 Jan 99 10:12:43 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 15 Jan 99 10:12:35 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:12:26 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Sasek X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <396A6267FBA@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > Debaty nekdy cloveka mohou privest na ruzne nove myslenky, nove veci... > > Pri meditaci se dovis spousty skvelych veci, lec o teplote vody ci o > > mnozstvi caje, o hodnoceni cajoven apod. ti vyssi sily informace nepodaji > > ani v meditaci. > > Jinak sasci mivali obcas i vysoka umrti. Na druhou stranu zname i > > pribeh, kde se sasek nakonec stal kralem (a konec to urcite jeste neni). > > Priznej se, sasku, ze to je post, kam smerujes ?! Kral cajoveho > > kralovstvi... Ale Magnatu Cesnekovou tu asi nenajdes. > > Hodnoceni caje - chutna, nechutna > Teplota vody - horka, vlazna, studena jak psi cumak > Nove veci - co to je? > Tak jakypak copak > Najdu Laaary faaary, to je velmi hruby nahled na vec. Vice subtilnosti. Caj muze chutnat trpce, sladce, mekce, hladce, vubec, malicko, vice nez tenhle ci tamten. Teplota muze byt moc horka, akorat, moc studena. Nove veci jsou pro nekoho treba Bai Hao, japonske konvicky, pekne www stranky. A nenajdes. Mas dost absolutisticky nahled na vec. Caj opravdu chutna nebo nechutna, voda je skutecne horka, vlazna...atd. Ale tady to je vzdy vztazeno k druhemu subjektu a tim je prave caj. Proto voda je MOC horka nebo AKORAT...atd. A pro ostatni...nebojte se oponovat saskovi. Budme za nej vdecni, ale pozor, aby se nechtel skryte stat kralem. Mimochodem...kdo se tu citi kralem :-) ? Lahvacek mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Jan 15 12:21:16 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA25850; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:21:16 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from eros.zcu.cz (eros.zcu.cz [147.228.1.10]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA25847 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:21:09 +0100 From: ladislav.szatmari@st.sk Received: from adis.cesnet.cz (adis.cesnet.cz [194.50.6.3]) by eros.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA26841 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:21:07 +0100 Received: from cess404.st.sk (pool-b250.telecom.sk [195.146.139.250]) by adis.cesnet.cz (8.8.8/CESNET) with ESMTP id MAA14377 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:16:40 +0100 (MET) Received: from cess401.ais.st.sk ([196.5.13.8]) by cess404.st.sk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2232.9) id C64R9HHJ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:07:40 +0100 Received: by cess401.ais.st.sk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:13:04 +0100 Message-ID: <8F95FAFEF9CED111B4710060084618790BD071@osmn401.rtss.st.sk> To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: www stranka- caj Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:15:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Nasiel som peknu stranku o caji,nech nikoho neprekvapuje, ze je to v madarcine. Da sa tam navolit aj iny jazyk, kto chce anglictinu, musi odklepnut "help translate" a nasledne tlacitko HOME na www stranke. Obsahuje recepty, historiu atd ..... http://www.stashtea.com/ >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Jan 15 19:36:17 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA26998; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 19:36:17 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA26995 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 19:36:16 +0100 Received: from ms.globe.cz (post@ms.globe.cz [212.27.196.28]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA12310 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 19:36:15 +0100 (MET) Received: (from post@localhost) by ms.globe.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA14722; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 19:36:14 +0100 Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 19:36:14 +0100 Message-Id: <199901151836.TAA14722@ms.globe.cz> To: Caj@dione.zcu.cz From: p.slavikova@post.cz X-mailer: POST.CZ mailer v1.1 Subject: Caj: prispevek Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Posilam Vam dalsi prispevek tykajici se caje - cajovniku. Caj ma svuj puvod v malem huste olistenem kericku cajovniku, rostoucim v tropickem nebo subtropickem podnebi. Zvlastnim zpracovanim listu rozlicnych odrud cajovniku ziskavaji se ruzne druhy caje, ktere davaji pak lahodny, fyziologic ky osvezujici napoj lisici se specifickymi vlastnostmi. Pro pestovani caje ma nejvetsi vyznam cajovnik cinsky, jako severni odruda a cajovnik assamsky jako odruda jizni. Oba tyto druhy cajovniku maji po cely rok listy zelene, silne zebrovite, vyrustajici stridave na kratkych vetevkach kere. Spolecna pro oba druhy cajovniku je tez barva a tvar kvetu, ktery je temer bez vune a pro caj bezvyznamny. ( Cajovnik se pestuje v Cine, Indii, na Cejlone, v Japonsku, Indonesii, Vietnamu a Africe.) Prosim, kdo by byl tak laskav a poslal mi co nejdrive dalsi informace o tomto napoji - caji !!! Mnohokrat dekuji Petra Slavikova >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Jan 15 19:40:06 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA27069; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 19:40:06 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA27066 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 19:40:05 +0100 Received: from ms.globe.cz (post@ms.globe.cz [212.27.196.28]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA12532 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 19:40:04 +0100 (MET) Received: (from post@localhost) by ms.globe.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA15444; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 19:40:03 +0100 Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 19:40:03 +0100 Message-Id: <199901151840.TAA15444@ms.globe.cz> To: Caj@dione.zcu.cz From: p.slavikova@post.cz X-mailer: POST.CZ mailer v1.1 Subject: Caj: prispevek Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Jelikoz se take zajim o caj, chtela bych i ja prispet do Vasi konference nejakym prispevkem. A to z historie caje. Na rozdil od kavy saha historie caje hluboko do doby stareho letopoctu a ma sve koreny v kolebce cajove kultury - v Cine. Neni znamo a zustane snad vavzdy utajeno, kdy byl caj poprve pouzit jako napoj a jak bylo objeveno, ze cajove listy mohou byt ruzne zpracovavany a pouzity k priprave napoje. Na rozdil od kavy jsou pocatky historie caje mene podlozeny pisemnymi doklady, jsou pouze vybajene v mnoha legendach a bajkach. Nejstarsi zminka o caji je uvedena v cinskem slovniku z roku 350 n.l. Podle nejnovejsich objevu se uvadi jako pravlast caje Barma, odkud se caj rozsiril do Ciny a Indie. Cinane pripisuji objeveni caje legendarnimi cisari Sen-nungovi, zvanemu "Bozsky vladar", ktery panoval v dobe 2697 pr.n.l.Udajne ve sve knize Pen cchao neb "Lekarsko knize" popisuje pod oznacenim horky tch a ccha rostliny ospovidajici caji. Prvni zminka o vyvozu cajovniku z Ciny je z doby 620 az 698 n.l.,kdy byl cajovnik dovezen do Tibetu, kde se velmi dobre ujal a caj se stal v teto zemi narodnim napojem. >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Jan 15 21:03:06 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA27293; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:03:06 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA27290 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:03:06 +0100 Received: from ms.globe.cz (ms.globe.cz [212.27.196.28]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA12768 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:03:00 +0100 (MET) Received: (from post@localhost) by ms.globe.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA32609; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:02:59 +0100 Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:02:59 +0100 Message-Id: <199901152002.VAA32609@ms.globe.cz> To: Caj@dione.zcu.cz From: p.slavikova@post.cz X-mailer: POST.CZ mailer v1.1 Subject: Caj: prispevek Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Jsem studentka chebskeho gymnazia a prihlasila jsem se do Vasi konference, protoze se tak trochu zajimam o caj a ktery je zaroven i mym tématem pro seminarní praci. Proto bych Vam byla velmi vdecna, kdyby ste mi co nejdrive poslali nejake studie nebo informace vseho, co se tohoto napoje tyka! Moc Vam dekuji Petra Slavikova >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Jan 15 23:00:47 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA27485; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:00:47 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA27482 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:00:46 +0100 Received: from hermes.iol.cz ([194.228.2.40]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA13620 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:00:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from my-pul-n ([194.228.128.143]) by hermes.iol.cz (Post.Office MTA v3.5.2 release 221 ID# 631-58653U30000L30000S0V35) with ESMTP id cz for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:00:09 +0100 From: "janvacek" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Sasek Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:48:21 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19990115220009.AAI20490@hermes.iol.cz@my-pul-n> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > Laaary faaary, to je velmi hruby nahled na vec. Vice subtilnosti. .....Proto voda je MOC horka > nebo AKORAT...atd. > > Lahvacek > A co takle tepla koupel, doporucuji pridat trochu Gyokura a slicnou gejsu. Kladni se Sasek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Jan 15 23:00:49 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA27494; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:00:49 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA27487 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:00:48 +0100 Received: from hermes.iol.cz ([194.228.2.40]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA14320 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:00:44 +0100 (MET) Received: from my-pul-n ([194.228.128.143]) by hermes.iol.cz (Post.Office MTA v3.5.2 release 221 ID# 631-58653U30000L30000S0V35) with ESMTP id cz for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:00:05 +0100 From: "janvacek" To: Subject: Caj: Re: Pro saska Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:44:58 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19990115220005.AAG20490@hermes.iol.cz@my-pul-n> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Jeden muj kamos zastava nazor, ze vetsina cajomilcu nejsou ve > skutecnosti cisti cajomilci, ale jedna se o vylecene alkoholiky. Jak > znamo, taci si jiz k alkoholu nemohou ani cichnout, a tak se caj > stava jejich jedinym spolecensky unosnym resenim. Myslis sasku, ze by > na tom mohlo neco byt ? > kvita Situace je jeste zapeklitejsi. Vetsina cajomilcu je nevylecenymi a hlavne nevylecitelnymi holiky vseho druhu. Nejvice je vsak zastoupena skupina cokolivholiku. No a snad jen ona cajova kralovna skutecne vi, co to ten caj vlastne je. Klani se Sasek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Jan 15 23:00:57 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA27511; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:00:57 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA27508 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:00:56 +0100 Received: from hermes.iol.cz ([194.228.2.40]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA14387 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:00:52 +0100 (MET) Received: from my-pul-n ([194.228.128.143]) by hermes.iol.cz (Post.Office MTA v3.5.2 release 221 ID# 631-58653U30000L30000S0V35) with ESMTP id cz for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:00:15 +0100 From: "janvacek" To: "=?ISO-8859-2?Q?=C8ajov=E1_konference?=" Subject: Caj: Od saska Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:53:17 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19990115220015.AAK20490@hermes.iol.cz@my-pul-n> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Na tomhle svete i mezi hmyzem nekteri umi zpivat jini ne Sasek si dovolil citovat Issu a jeho haiku. Dobre k Perlam Draka Od Hory Tai-mu. Nejlepe pak k jeho patemu nalevu Klani se sasek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Jan 18 08:50:37 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA32505; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 08:50:37 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA32502 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 08:50:36 +0100 Received: from eryx2.zcu.cz (eryx2.zcu.cz [147.228.206.13]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA03692 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 08:50:36 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (jurista@localhost) by eryx2.zcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA20457 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 08:50:36 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: eryx2.zcu.cz: jurista owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 08:50:35 +0100 (MET) From: Demeter Jurista X-Sender: jurista@eryx2.zcu.cz To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Jasmin In-Reply-To: <8F95FAFEF9CED111B4710060084618790BD06F@osmn401.rtss.st.sk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ahojky > Ma priprava jasminu zvlastnosti ? Pokud jde o mne ma priprava jasminu stejny prubeh jako jakehokoli jineho caje. Rozdil je u mne jen v zaverecne fazi. Za staleho michani cedime pres odpadovou jimku. (primo do zachodu) > > Laco Mita DJ >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Jan 18 09:06:08 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA32561; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:06:08 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA32558 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:06:08 +0100 Received: from ms.globe.cz (post@ms.globe.cz [212.27.196.28]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA04030 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:06:07 +0100 (MET) Received: (from post@localhost) by ms.globe.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA17916; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:06:03 +0100 Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:06:03 +0100 Message-Id: <199901180806.JAA17916@ms.globe.cz> To: caj@dione.zcu.cz From: motl@post.cz X-mailer: POST.CZ mailer v1.1 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Desatero správné prípravy čaje 1. Caje nikdy nevaríme, ale pouze sparujeme. Varem se nicí chut a těkají aromatické látky. 2. Sparujeme zasadne v tenkostennych porcelanovych nebo sklenenych salcich nebo koncickach. 3. Caj se sparuje vzdy prave vrouci vodou. Zachladla voda caj nedostatecne vyluhuje a spareni je neuplne. Prevarena voda,zbavena kyseliny uhlicite, ovlennuje chut a vuni napoje. 4. Voda ke spareni caje ma byt vzdy cerstva, ne zvlast mekka ci tvrda. Tvrda voda dodava caji velmi naprijemnou chut. 5. Vodu varime vejradeji v cajovych konvicich dobre smaltovanych nebo z nerez oceli, ale pouzivame jich zasadne jen k ohrivani vody, nikoliv ke spareni caje. Primi styk s kovem silne narusuje chut napoje. 6. Kovova vajicka nebo kovova sitka - ceditka nejsou vhodna pro spravnou pripravu caje. 7. Nadoby, ktere pouzivame k priprave caje nebo ohrati vody, neumivame nikdy s ostatnim nadobim, ale pouze je vyplachujeme horkou vodou a nechame odkapat nebo vysusit. 8. Caj sparujeme pouze po urcitou dobu. Cerny caj sparujeme po dobu 4 az 6 minut, zeleny pouze 3 minuty, ne dele. Delsi doba spareni je na zavaku jemne chuti a nalev nabyva sviravou az horkou chut. Pri delsim spareni ziskava caj tmavou barvu, ktera neni vzdy znakem dobreho caje. Caj nikdy dvakrat nasparujeme. 9. Caj prechovavame v dobre uzavrenych plechovkach vylozenych papirem nebo ve sklenenych dozach. Uchovavame jej v suchu, chladnu, a chranime jej pred cizimi pachy, ktere caj velmi snadno polcuje. 10.Caj podavame vzdy cerstve pripraveny a teply. Zeleny caj sladime dvojnasobne nez caj cerny. Caj nikdy jiz neprehrivame. >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Jan 18 09:14:35 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA32610; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:14:35 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA32607 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:14:34 +0100 Received: from eryx2.zcu.cz (eryx2.zcu.cz [147.228.206.13]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA04451 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:14:34 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (jurista@localhost) by eryx2.zcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA20644 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:14:34 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: eryx2.zcu.cz: jurista owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:14:33 +0100 (MET) From: Demeter Jurista X-Sender: jurista@eryx2.zcu.cz To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <199901180806.JAA17916@ms.globe.cz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id JAA32608 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Zdravim, kdo tohle docte do konce je borec. Mam vsak vsetecnou otazku, kde jsi to sebral? > Desatero správné prípravy čaje No comment. Mita DJ >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Jan 18 09:18:07 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA32628; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:18:07 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA32625 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:18:06 +0100 Received: from ms.globe.cz (post@ms.globe.cz [212.27.196.28]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA04346 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:18:06 +0100 (MET) Received: (from post@localhost) by ms.globe.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA19471; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:18:03 +0100 Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:18:03 +0100 Message-Id: <199901180818.JAA19471@ms.globe.cz> To: caj@dione.zcu.cz From: motl@post.cz X-mailer: POST.CZ mailer v1.1 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Zeleny caj Od cerneho caje se lesi nejen smyslovymi vlastnostmi, tj. vzhedem a vlastnostmi napoje, ale tez celym vyrobnim postupem. Kvyrobe zeleneho caje se pouzivaji zpravidla stejne suroviny, ktere byly pouzity pro caj cerny. Zeleny caj je vyroben z cajovych listu, ktere behem zpracovani neprodelaly proces vadnuti a fermentaci, cimz se obsazene trisloviny a chlorofyl nezmenily a hotovy vyrobek si tak ponechal svou prirozenou barvu cajoveho listu. Zeleny caj ma silne povzbuzujici ucinky, jeho odvar je svetlezluty, silne vune a horce svirave chuti. Vyroba zeleneho caje zdomacnela zejmena v Cine a Japonsku. Zelene caje sovetske produkce vanikaji kvalitou a daleko prevysuji ostatni zahranicni druhy. V nekterych oblastech Ciny a Japonska se dosud vyroba zeleneho caje provadi tak, ze se sklizene listy cajovniku navrstvi na bambusove lisky, ktere se pak v nekoleka vrstvach skladaji do bedny bez dna. Bedna s slikami se umisti nad velkym kotlem s varici vodou , pod nimz se topi. Para prochazi vrstvou cajovych listu a umrtvuje je. >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Jan 18 09:18:46 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA32642; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:18:46 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA32639 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:18:45 +0100 Received: from gate.hob.cz ([194.108.46.250]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA04731 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:18:44 +0100 (MET) Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by gate.hob.cz (8.8.2/8.8.2) id JAA30465 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:16:31 +0100 Received: from primus.hob.cz(172.21.1.16) by gate.hob.cz via smap (V2.1) id xma030463; Mon, 18 Jan 99 09:16:29 +0100 Received: by primus.hob.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:19:02 +0100 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?H=E1jek_Ctirad?= To: "'caj@dione.zcu.cz'" Subject: Caj: opravdu? RE: Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:19:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz To plati tehdy a jen tehdy, kdyz cerny nesladime vubec :-) Ctirad P.S. v posledni dobe se tu mnozi anonymy > . Zeleny caj sladime dvojnasobne nez caj cerny. > > >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Jan 18 09:26:30 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA32716; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:26:30 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA32713 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:26:29 +0100 Received: from ms.globe.cz (post@ms.globe.cz [212.27.196.28]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA05013 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:26:28 +0100 (MET) Received: (from post@localhost) by ms.globe.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA20605; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:26:27 +0100 Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:26:27 +0100 Message-Id: <199901180826.JAA20605@ms.globe.cz> To: caj@dione.zcu.cz From: motl@post.cz X-mailer: POST.CZ mailer v1.1 Subject: Caj: Zlutozeleny caj Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Zlutozeleny caj V obchodnim styku je znam pod oznacenim oolong. Je vyraben hlavne v Cine. Pripravuje se podobne jako zeleny caj, pouze s tim rozdilem,ze prodelava jeste nedokonalou fermentaci a je susen ve stinu. Bohaty obsah silic dodava tomuto caji povzbuzujici ucinky. Odvar vynika velmi intezivni vuni a svezi chuti. Je to velmi cenny druh, ktery se vyznacuje nazelenalou , nekdy zlutou barvou. U kvalitnich druhu prechazi nazelenala barva do mednateho dostinu. Caj ulong je nekdy tez lehce parfumovan a prichazi na trh pod oznacenim Scented Oolong - ovoneny ulong. Techto druhu caju se s oblibou pouziva v jizni a vychodni Asii, USA a Anglii. >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Jan 18 09:33:29 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA32766; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:33:29 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA32763 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:33:28 +0100 Received: from zp999a.zivpo.cz (ms.zivpo.cz [195.146.106.228]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA05059 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:33:28 +0100 (MET) Received: by ms.zivpo.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:33:27 +0100 Message-ID: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A390103EEBB@PUEX1C1> From: Toman Lukás To: "'caj@dione.zcu.cz'" Subject: Caj: RE: Desatero Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:33:36 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > 3. Caj se sparuje vzdy prave vrouci vodou. Zachladla voda > caj nedostatecne vyluhuje a spareni je neuplne. Prevarena > voda,zbavena kyseliny uhlicite, ovlennuje chut a vuni napoje. No tak tohle je znacne diskutabilni. Dle jinych pramenu ma mit voda cca. 80 °C, nekdy pouze 60 > 5. Vodu varime vejradeji v cajovych konvicich dobre > smaltovanych nebo z nerez oceli, ale pouzivame jich > zasadne jen k ohrivani vody, nikoliv ke spareni caje. > Primi styk s kovem silne narusuje chut napoje. Ze by nekdo, kdo nesnasi rychlovarne konvice? > 10.Caj podavame vzdy cerstve pripraveny a teply. Zeleny caj > sladime dvojnasobne nez caj cerny. Caj nikdy jiz > neprehrivame. Ale no tak. Sladit caj? To snad nemyslis vazne... ze ty popijis prevazne PIGI... Galenius >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Jan 18 10:02:10 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA00119; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:02:10 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA00116 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:02:09 +0100 Received: from kiv.zcu.cz (ur404p01-rek.rek.zcu.cz [147.228.71.108]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA05820 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:02:09 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <36A2F891.9391CCA2@kiv.zcu.cz> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:02:09 +0100 From: Pavel Baxa Organization: ZCU Plzen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Tak dost! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Mili cajomilove! Takhle by to dal neslo. Jak Ctirad spravne podotkl, mnozi se tu anonymy. Ja dodavam, ze jsou plne bludu a nepresnych udaju. Bylo by hezke, kdybychom se shodli na nekolika jednoduchych pravidlech. 1) Prispevek ma NADPIS (Subject, Predmet) Nadpis strucne naznacuje, o cem je prispevek. Proto by nemel byt prazdny nebo uplne o necem jinem. 2) Prispevek ma PODPIS Podpis strucne naznacuje, kdo je autorem prispevku. Proto by nemel byt prazdny nebo cizi. Prezdivky jsou OK, pokud se nemeni dvakrat za den. 3) Prispevek ma OBSAH cili TELO prispevku. Nemel by byt prazdny a mel by byt o caji nebo vecech souvisejicich. Cim dal vic prispevku je off-topic cili mimo misu. Nemam nic proti saskovi, ale uvital bych, kdyby prispel necim hodnotnym. Haiku? Vyborne. Ale tahle konference je predevsim o caji. Pokud si chcete zbuhdarma placat jatra o nicem, pak jsou pro vas urceny konference kecy@power.feld.cvut.cz a mensa@cs.felk.cvut.cz 4) Citujeme-li, je nanejvys vhodne uvest zdroj nebo prazdroj, pokud vyjadrujete vlastni nazor, musi to byt zrejme z kontexu. Dekuji za pozornost, konec hlaseni Pavel Baxa P.S.: Nejsem sice nic, co by sasek nazval kralem, ale spoluzakladatel konference jsem a proto se domnivam, ze mam povinnost obcas hybnout kormidlem. P. >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Jan 18 10:29:03 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA00196; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:29:03 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA00192 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:29:02 +0100 Received: from kiv.zcu.cz (ur404p01-rek.rek.zcu.cz [147.228.71.108]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA06512 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:29:02 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <36A2FEDF.543AF0A0@kiv.zcu.cz> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:29:03 +0100 From: Pavel Baxa Organization: ZCU Plzen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Info o caji (Re: prispevek) References: <199901151836.TAA14722@ms.globe.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Petra Slavikova wrote: > Prosim, kdo by byl tak laskav a poslal mi co nejdrive > dalsi informace o tomto napoji - caji !!! Ahoj Petro a vsichni, kdoz s cajem zacinate! Pokud mate pristup k WWW (Internetu), zkuste adresu http://yoyo.zcu.cz/~baxa/caj.html Najdete tam Pavlovu cajovnu a v ni nejenom neco informaci o caji, ale i odkazy na dalsi stranky a literaturu. Jestli na WWW (Internet) nemuzete, pak bych doporucil knihu v teto konferenci jiz mnohokrat zminovanou - J. Arcimovicova, P. Valicek: "Vune caje", nakladatelstvi Start, Benesov 1998. Konkretni dotazy vam jiste rad nekdo z teto konference (vcetne me) zodpovi, ale obecnych informaci o caji je tolik, ze bychom zbytecne plnili postovni schranky tem, kteri o to nestoji, takze delsi texty radeji vystavim na WWW strance a do konference poslu adresu. Ju? Pavel B. >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Jan 18 10:30:43 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA00214; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:30:43 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA00211 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:30:42 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA06907 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:30:42 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20023 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:30:45 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 18 Jan 99 10:30:43 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 18 Jan 99 10:30:41 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:30:34 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Tak dost! X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <3DEF54B1451@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz S tim vsim souhlasim a jeste bych dodal, ze prispevky posilane z adresy motl@post.cz beru jako prima recesi a ukazku toho, jake vsechny mozne bludy se o caji mohou sirit i v literature. Neb mam dojem, ze nejake takove desatero jsem nekde vydel...ze by Cajove minimum ? Ale opravdu nevim. Nicmene coby silny oponent neboli antisasek se saska musim trochu zastat. Jeho prispevky jsou vice, nez by se mohlo zdat, PRAVE o Caji. Haiku patri prave k Caji, nebo spise naopak, Caj patri k haiku. Koneckoncu predpokladam, ze Straka by mohl vypravet (coby japonolog ;-)). Ale na druhou stranu by sasek mohl dat nejaky ten prispevek i z hrubsich rovin cajove problematiky, neb, kdyz tak kafra, urcite ma neskonale cajove zkusenosti, ktere mu dovoluji povznest se na vyssi urovne, z kterych ma nas cajove smrtelniky silne v pazi. S uctou Pavel Lahvacek Zalarnikdznanyjovskej (uz chapu ;-)) mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Jan 18 10:52:01 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA00307; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:52:01 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA00304 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:52:00 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA05924 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:52:00 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA23255 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:52:03 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 18 Jan 99 10:52:01 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 18 Jan 99 10:51:38 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:51:37 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Jasmin X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <3DF4EAB0423@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > Ma priprava jasminu zvlastnosti ? > Pokud jde o mne ma priprava jasminu stejny prubeh jako jakehokoli > jineho caje. Rozdil je u mne jen v zaverecne fazi. Za staleho michani > cedime pres odpadovou jimku. (primo do zachodu) Chapu-li to, pak ti jasmin moc nejede. No, ja si naopak pochutnavam. Ale je fakt, ze od "normalni" pripravy se to moc nelisi. Jen si davam pozor, jak se to pretahne, je to straslive horke nebo silne (za coz samozrejme nemuze jasmin). Jinak znam cerny caj s jasminem (v plechovce) a Ptaci jazycek. Oba vytecne. Pavel Lahvacek Z.d. mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Jan 18 11:07:22 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA00386; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:07:22 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA00383 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:07:21 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA07763 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:07:21 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25586 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:07:25 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 18 Jan 99 11:07:22 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 18 Jan 99 11:07:11 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:07:02 +100 Subject: Caj: Oxalis X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <3DF9110091F@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Vazeni milci, v sobotu jsem prvne navstivil prodejnu f. Oxalis ve Vinohradske trznici v Praze (coz neni podstatne). Stale si nemuzu pomoci, me nazory z Domu u Rota (taktez v Praze) vuci zpusobu jejich prodeje jsou i nadale vlazne. Po nejake dobe se nam tam zacalo delat nevolno, aroma caju bylo tak vyrazne, ze po par minutach uz jsem necitil nic konkretniho, odhadnou vuni caje zeleneho uz tedy bylo nemozne. Nicmene koupil jsem Lapacho a Strelny prach. V kulickach caje byla hromada vetvicek, listi a vubec bordelu. A pritom cena nebyla zase tak o moc nizsi. Ale chutove zase tak hrozny neni. Nicmene jsem slysel, ze treba Ganmaichu je lepe kupovat u nich nez u Milcu. Tak to zkusim a uvidime. Toliko muj nazor, rad si ho necham vyvratit. Pavel Lahvacek Z.d. mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Jan 18 15:20:23 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA01386; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:20:23 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA01383 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:20:23 +0100 Received: from bivoj.it.cas.cz (bivoj.it.cas.cz [147.231.32.1]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA15921 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:20:22 +0100 (MET) Received: from hebe.it.cas.cz by bivoj.it.cas.cz (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/17Dec96-1106AM) id AA06252; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:20:11 +0100 Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:20:11 +0100 Message-Id: <9901181420.AA06252@bivoj.it.cas.cz> X-Sender: kulveit@bivoj.it.cas.cz X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz From: Jan Kulveit Subject: Re: Caj: Oxalis Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz >zeleneho uz tedy bylo nemozne. Nicmene koupil jsem Lapacho a Strelny >prach. V kulickach caje byla hromada vetvicek, listi a vubec bordelu. A >pritom cena nebyla zase tak o moc nizsi. Ale chutove zase tak hrozny neni. Jednou jsem dostal jejich Earl Grey a po prvnim dousku jsem cely pytlik vyhodil. Zatimco PIGI alespon nema chut, ten jejich "caj" chutnal jako roztok po vymiti lahvicek od parfemu z hodne spatne drogerie - na obalu jsem se pak docetl, ze pri vyrobe pouzili "prirodne identicka aromata". Asi bali a michaji i dobre caje, ale moje zkusenost je tak na 4-. Ahoj Honza Kulveit Jan Kulveit kulveit@bivoj.it.cas.cz Tel/fax: +420-2-6882506 kulveit@altavista.net >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Jan 18 22:15:11 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA02252; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 22:15:11 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA02249 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 22:15:09 +0100 Received: from ns.seznam.cz (ns.seznam.cz [195.39.10.2]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA24368 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 22:15:07 +0100 (MET) Received: from win95 (nobody@jurasek.terminal.cz [195.70.130.153]) by ns.seznam.cz (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA18962 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:15:02 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990118205614.0077c920@bivoj.it.cas.cz> X-Sender: kulveit@bivoj.it.cas.cz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 20:56:14 +0100 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz From: Jan Kulveit Subject: Re: Caj: Desatero In-Reply-To: <3DEF54B1451@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > beru jako prima recesi a ukazku toho, jake vsechny mozne bludy se o >caji mohou sirit i v literature. Neb mam dojem, ze nejake takove desatero >jsem nekde vydel...ze by Cajove minimum ? Ale opravdu nevim. Obecene J. H. Kocman (Cajove minimum, clanek v Cteni k caji...) V dobe, kdy autor Minimum napsal (1981) tu moc informaci o caji nebylo, ovsem spatne je, ze v dalsich vydanich chyby nikdo neopravil. Jednotlive body "desatera" jsou snad vicemene opsane vybrane vety z Cajoveho Minima. Nektere dost podstatne veci ale chybi - napriklad podstatne doporuceni caj radeji nesladit vubec nekdo zmenil na "zeleny sladit dvakrat tolik". Honza Kulveit >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Jan 19 00:52:57 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA02480; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:52:57 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA02477 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:52:57 +0100 Received: from hermes.iol.cz ([194.228.2.40]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA26390 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:52:56 +0100 (MET) Received: from my-pul-n ([194.228.128.181]) by hermes.iol.cz (Post.Office MTA v3.5.2 release 221 ID# 631-58653U30000L30000S0V35) with ESMTP id cz for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:51:28 +0100 From: "janvacek" To: Subject: Caj: Re: Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:11:48 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Message-ID: <19990118235128.AAC5194@hermes.iol.cz@my-pul-n> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz ---------- : Odesílatel: motl@post.cz : Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz : Předmět: : Datum: 18. I 1999 9:06 : : Desatero správné prípravy čaje : : : 3. Caj se sparuje vzdy prave vrouci vodou. Zachladla voda caj nedostatecne vyluhuje a spareni je neuplne. Prevarena voda,zbavena kyseliny uhlicite, ovlennuje chut a vuni napoje. : : : 8. Caj sparujeme pouze po urcitou dobu. Cerny caj sparujeme po dobu 4 az 6 minut, zeleny pouze 3 minuty, ne dele. Delsi doba spareni je na zavaku jemne chuti a nalev nabyva sviravou az horkou chut. Pri delsim spareni ziskava caj tmavou barvu, ktera neni vzdy znakem dobreho caje. Caj nikdy dvakrat nasparujeme. : 9 : 10.Caj podavame vzdy cerstve pripraveny a teply. Zeleny caj sladime dvojnasobne nez caj cerny. Caj nikdy jiz neprehrivame. : : Pane jo, ja su uplne hlupy, jak to ten caj dotetka varil. Jenom si neumim dost dobre predstavit 3 minuty varici vodo spareny Yunnan a jeste poradne oslazeny. Ja vim, saskum se obcas davalo ochutnat pred kralem, ale do tohodle nejdu. Ne,ne... Klani se Sasek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Jan 19 00:52:58 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA02486; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:52:58 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA02481 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:52:58 +0100 Received: from hermes.iol.cz ([194.228.2.40]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA25424 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:52:55 +0100 (MET) Received: from my-pul-n ([194.228.128.181]) by hermes.iol.cz (Post.Office MTA v3.5.2 release 221 ID# 631-58653U30000L30000S0V35) with ESMTP id cz for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:51:30 +0100 From: "janvacek" To: Subject: Caj: Re: Tak dost! Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:27:35 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Message-ID: <19990118235130.AAE5194@hermes.iol.cz@my-pul-n> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz ---------- : Odesílatel: Pavel Baxa : Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz : Předmět: Caj: Tak dost! : Datum: 18. I 1999 10:02 : : Mili cajomilove! : : Takhle by to dal neslo. : : Ja myslim ze pujde... : : P.S.: Nejsem sice nic, co by sasek nazval kralem, : ale spoluzakladatel konference jsem a proto : se domnivam, ze mam povinnost obcas hybnout : kormidlem. P. Kdo vi? Co je to caj? Piksla plna cehosi, co drive zarilo zivotem kdesi na dalekych svazich. Salek ci sklenka cehosi, do ceho nekdo sipe cukr, jiny to ma bez a dalsi treba cerne, zelene ci zlute. Neco, o cem se da donekonecna moudre plkat Nebo neco u ceho je dobre ztisit mysl a nechat se unaset obsahem toho neceho co nazyvame cajem tam, kde slova jsou prazdnejsi nez dopity cajovy salek Klani se Sasek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Jan 19 00:53:03 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA02503; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:53:03 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA02500 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:53:02 +0100 Received: from hermes.iol.cz ([194.228.2.40]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA26626 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:53:02 +0100 (MET) Received: from my-pul-n ([194.228.128.181]) by hermes.iol.cz (Post.Office MTA v3.5.2 release 221 ID# 631-58653U30000L30000S0V35) with ESMTP id cz for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:51:37 +0100 From: "janvacek" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Jasmin Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:39:32 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Message-ID: <19990118235137.AAI5194@hermes.iol.cz@my-pul-n> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz ---------- : Odesílatel: Demeter Jurista : Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz : Předmět: Re: Caj: Jasmin : Datum: 18. I 1999 8:50 : : Ahojky : : > Ma priprava jasminu zvlastnosti ? : Pokud jde o mne ma priprava jasminu stejny prubeh jako jakehokoli : jineho caje. Rozdil je u mne jen v zaverecne fazi. Za staleho michani : cedime pres odpadovou jimku. (primo do zachodu) : : > : > Laco : : Mita DJ Sasek si tez dovoluje navrhnout ochutnati Ptaci jazycky, avsak rozhodne ne pripravovane podle cajoveho desatera. Mysli, ze by autor po degustaci mohl zmenit nazor. Pokud se tak nestane, je jen jedina moznost. Alergie na jasmin. Klani se Sasek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Jan 19 08:17:34 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA03023; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 08:17:34 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA03020 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 08:17:33 +0100 Received: from eryx2.zcu.cz (eryx2.zcu.cz [147.228.206.13]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA30794 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 08:17:32 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (jurista@localhost) by eryx2.zcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA07994 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 08:17:32 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: eryx2.zcu.cz: jurista owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 08:17:32 +0100 (MET) From: Demeter Jurista X-Sender: jurista@eryx2.zcu.cz To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Jasmin In-Reply-To: <19990118235137.AAI5194@hermes.iol.cz@my-pul-n> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ahoj vsem... > Sasek si tez dovoluje navrhnout ochutnati Ptaci jazycky, avsak rozhodne ne > pripravovane podle cajoveho desatera. Mysli, ze by autor po degustaci mohl > zmenit nazor. Pokud se tak nestane, je jen jedina moznost. Alergie na > jasmin. No nevim, mam alergii na kde co, ale alergii na jasmin mi u lekare nenasli :). Jinak je to spise tim, ze jsem se postupne propil od caju cernych ovonenych (ochucenych) az na caje bile, zelene, oolongy, cervene a Pu Ery. Ale co je hlavni, hlavne NEOVONENE. Najdou se samozrejme i spotrebni vyjimky jako Earl Grey a Irish Cream. Mita DJ >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Jan 19 08:54:11 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA03091; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 08:54:11 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA03088 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 08:54:10 +0100 Received: from gate.hob.cz ([194.108.46.250]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA00612 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 08:54:10 +0100 (MET) Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by gate.hob.cz (8.8.2/8.8.2) id IAA08670 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 08:54:09 +0100 Received: from primus.hob.cz(172.21.1.16) by gate.hob.cz via smap (V2.1) id xma008668; Tue, 19 Jan 99 08:53:59 +0100 Received: by primus.hob.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 08:56:41 +0100 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?H=E1jek_Ctirad?= To: "'caj@dione.zcu.cz'" Subject: Caj: Poutnikovo miska Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 08:56:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Vcera jsem si odnesl z cajovny (Plachovka) caj nazvany Poutnikovo miska. Jeste jsem ho nezkusil, tak se ptam, zda ma nekdo zkusenosti s pripravou. Dle sdeleni obsluhy lze pripravit: a) varit asi 15 minut b) zalit primo v misce vrouci vodou + vypit, postup opakovat cely den Dekuji za odpoved Ctirad >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Jan 19 21:19:52 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA32334; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 21:19:52 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA32331 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 21:19:51 +0100 Received: from hermes.iol.cz ([194.228.2.40]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA27447 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 21:19:47 +0100 (MET) Received: from my-pul-n ([194.228.128.172]) by hermes.iol.cz (Post.Office MTA v3.5.2 release 221 ID# 631-58653U30000L30000S0V35) with ESMTP id cz for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 21:18:56 +0100 From: "janvacek" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Jasmin Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 12:36:47 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Message-ID: <19990119201856.AAA22992@hermes.iol.cz@my-pul-n> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz : Ahoj vsem... : : > Sasek si tez dovoluje navrhnout ochutnati Ptaci jazycky, ........ : No nevim, mam alergii na kde co, ale alergii na jasmin mi u lekare : nenasli :). Jinak je to spise tim, ze jsem se postupne propil od caju : cernych ovonenych (ochucenych) az na caje bile, zelene, oolongy, : cervene a Pu Ery. Ale co je hlavni, hlavne NEOVONENE. Najdou se samozrejme : i spotrebni vyjimky jako Earl Grey a Irish Cream. : : Mita DJ Sasek si dovoluje upozornit, ze tez neni picem zadnych ovonenych caju, a libuje si v cajich delikatesnich. Lec Ptaci jazycek je caj kvalitni sorty,zeleny, pouze s pridanim velmi maleho mnozstvi jasminoveho kvetu. Zadne aroma, jen ciste listecky. Mimochodem Gelsemium - jasmin - je vyborny ne neklidnou mysl a rozbolavelou dusi. Ochutnej, uvidis. Klani se Sasek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 20 08:56:04 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA00666; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 08:56:04 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA00663 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 08:56:03 +0100 Received: from eryx1.zcu.cz (eryx1.zcu.cz [147.228.52.12]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA03734 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 08:56:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (jurista@localhost) by eryx1.zcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA32287 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 08:56:02 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: eryx1.zcu.cz: jurista owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 08:56:02 +0100 (MET) From: Demeter Jurista X-Sender: jurista@eryx1.zcu.cz To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Jasmin In-Reply-To: <19990119201856.AAA22992@hermes.iol.cz@my-pul-n> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ahojky > > Sasek si dovoluje upozornit, ze tez neni picem zadnych ovonenych caju, a > libuje si v cajich delikatesnich. Lec Ptaci jazycek je caj kvalitni > sorty,zeleny, Dobra, dobra, dobra. Ja proti piti tohoto caje nic nemam. > pouze s pridanim velmi maleho mnozstvi jasminoveho kvetu. Zadne aroma, jen > ciste listecky. Mimochodem Gelsemium - jasmin - je vyborny ne neklidnou A proc tam jsou ty listecky, kdyz to nema aroma, to mi prijde nejake podezrele, to urcite voni po jasminu :) Mita DJ >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 20 09:04:10 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA00718; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:04:10 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA00715 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:04:09 +0100 Received: from zp999a.zivpo.cz (ms.zivpo.cz [195.146.106.228]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA03108 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:04:08 +0100 (MET) Received: by ms.zivpo.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:04:06 +0100 Message-ID: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A390103EEED@PUEX1C1> From: Toman Lukás To: "'caj@dione.zcu.cz'" Subject: RE: Caj: Jasmin Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:03:53 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > Sasek si dovoluje upozornit, ze tez neni picem zadnych > ovonenych caju, a > > libuje si v cajich delikatesnich. Lec Ptaci jazycek je caj kvalitni > > sorty,zeleny, >Dobra, dobra, dobra. Ja proti piti tohoto caje nic nemam. > > > pouze s pridanim velmi maleho mnozstvi jasminoveho kvetu. > Zadne aroma, jen > > ciste listecky. Mimochodem Gelsemium - jasmin - je > vyborny ne neklidnou > A proc tam jsou ty listecky, kdyz to nema aroma, to mi prijde > nejake podezrele, to urcite voni po jasminu :) Tak tak posloucham popis tohoto caje a mam v nej stale mensi a mensi duveru a zacinam stale vice a vice podporovat doporuceni, ktere tu uz padlo, a to cedit tento caj primo do zachodove misi a nasledne ho redit vodou... Galenius >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 20 09:08:17 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA00763; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:08:17 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA00760 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:08:16 +0100 Received: from eryx1.zcu.cz (eryx1.zcu.cz [147.228.52.12]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA03926 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:08:16 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (jurista@localhost) by eryx1.zcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA32728 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:08:15 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: eryx1.zcu.cz: jurista owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:08:15 +0100 (MET) From: Demeter Jurista X-Sender: jurista@eryx1.zcu.cz To: "'caj@dione.zcu.cz'" Subject: RE: Caj: Jasmin In-Reply-To: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A390103EEED@PUEX1C1> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > A proc tam jsou ty listecky, kdyz to nema aroma, to mi prijde > > nejake podezrele, to urcite voni po jasminu :) > > Tak tak posloucham popis tohoto caje a mam v nej stale mensi a mensi duveru > a zacinam stale vice a vice podporovat doporuceni, ktere tu uz padlo, a to > cedit > tento caj primo do zachodove misi a nasledne ho redit vodou... Neboj se mi si jeste chvili budeme mailovat a nakonec te presvedcime. > Galenius Mita DJ >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 20 09:23:04 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA00825; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:23:04 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA00822 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:23:04 +0100 Received: from zp999a.zivpo.cz (ms.zivpo.cz [195.146.106.228]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA04977 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:23:02 +0100 (MET) Received: by ms.zivpo.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:22:56 +0100 Message-ID: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A390103EEEE@PUEX1C1> From: Toman Lukás To: "'caj@dione.zcu.cz'" Subject: RE: Caj: Jasmin Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:22:44 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > > A proc tam jsou ty listecky, kdyz to nema aroma, to mi prijde > > > nejake podezrele, to urcite voni po jasminu :) > > > > Tak tak posloucham popis tohoto caje a mam v nej stale > mensi a mensi duveru > > a zacinam stale vice a vice podporovat doporuceni, ktere tu > uz padlo, a to > > cedit > > tento caj primo do zachodove misi a nasledne ho redit vodou... > > Neboj se mi si jeste chvili budeme mailovat a nakonec te > presvedcime. Zatim jsem presvedcen jasminovej caj nepit. K tomu jsem dospel jednou, kdyz jsem ho od jedne zname kostnul v cajovne. Bylo to HROZNY!!!! Ted se jen presvedcuju, ze nejlepsi jeho pouziti je jako dezinfekce WC 8-)))) Galenius >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 20 09:25:38 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA00841; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:25:38 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA00838 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:25:36 +0100 Received: from kiv.zcu.cz (ur404p01-rek.rek.zcu.cz [147.228.71.108]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA04133; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:25:36 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <36A59300.A9990300@kiv.zcu.cz> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:25:36 +0100 From: Pavel Baxa Organization: ZCU Plzen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Jasmin References: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A390103EEED@PUEX1C1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Myslim, ze o KAZDEM caji by se tu dalo mluvit tak, ze bys pouzil nizeuvedeny recept. (Dobry) jasminak je jeden ze dvou ovonenych caju, ktere obcas piju. Ten druhy je Earl Grey (cerny caj + bergamotova silice). Kombinace opacna, tedy zeleny caj s bergamotem a cerny jasminak mi nesvedci. Pavel B. Toman Lukás wrote: > > Tak tak posloucham popis tohoto caje a mam v nej stale mensi a mensi duveru > a zacinam stale vice a vice podporovat doporuceni, ktere tu uz padlo, a to > cedit tento caj primo do zachodove misi a nasledne ho redit vodou... > Galenius >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 20 09:27:12 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA00861; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:27:12 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA00858 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:27:11 +0100 Received: from kiv.zcu.cz (ur404p01-rek.rek.zcu.cz [147.228.71.108]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA04630; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:27:10 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <36A5935F.2753AB2F@kiv.zcu.cz> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:27:11 +0100 From: Pavel Baxa Organization: ZCU Plzen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Konference Caj Subject: Caj: Bergamot Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz A propos, bergamot - uz jste to nekdo videl? Ja vim, ze je to citrus, predstavuju si to jako malinkaty citronky nebo limetky, ale to mi jaksi nestaci. Podle ceho se to jmenuje? Bergamo (Bergama, Pergamon) je mesto v Turecku. Ze by? Pavel B. >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 20 09:34:21 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA00937; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:34:21 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA00934 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:34:20 +0100 Received: from eryx1.zcu.cz (eryx1.zcu.cz [147.228.52.12]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA05403 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:34:20 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (jurista@localhost) by eryx1.zcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA28932 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:34:20 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: eryx1.zcu.cz: jurista owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:34:20 +0100 (MET) From: Demeter Jurista X-Sender: jurista@eryx1.zcu.cz To: "'caj@dione.zcu.cz'" Subject: RE: Caj: Jasmin In-Reply-To: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A390103EEEE@PUEX1C1> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ahojky > > Zatim jsem presvedcen jasminovej caj nepit. K tomu jsem dospel > jednou, kdyz jsem ho od jedne zname kostnul v cajovne. Bylo to > HROZNY!!!! Ted se jen presvedcuju, ze nejlepsi jeho pouziti je > jako dezinfekce WC 8-)))) > Velice poucny nazor, ale vyrobci cisticich prostredku uprednostnuji prece jenom citrony... > Galenius Mita DJ >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 20 09:42:26 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA00980; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:42:26 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA00977 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:42:25 +0100 Received: from zp999a.zivpo.cz (ms.zivpo.cz [195.146.106.228]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA05480 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:42:23 +0100 (MET) Received: by ms.zivpo.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:42:21 +0100 Message-ID: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A390103EEF0@PUEX1C1> From: Toman Lukás To: "'caj@dione.zcu.cz'" Subject: RE: Caj: Jasmin Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:42:14 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > Zatim jsem presvedcen jasminovej caj nepit. K tomu jsem dospel > > jednou, kdyz jsem ho od jedne zname kostnul v cajovne. Bylo to > > HROZNY!!!! Ted se jen presvedcuju, ze nejlepsi jeho pouziti je > > jako dezinfekce WC 8-)))) > > > Velice poucny nazor, ale vyrobci cisticich prostredku > uprednostnuji prece jenom citrony... Kdovi jak dlouho. Treba jednou budou vyrabez dezinfekce z jasminovych caju... Galenius >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 20 09:47:10 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA04142; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:47:10 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA04121 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:47:09 +0100 Received: from serverpce.czcom.cz (serverpce.czcom.cz [195.146.98.2]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA05253 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:47:09 +0100 (MET) Received: from pop3.stapro.cz ([195.146.104.82]) by serverpce.czcom.cz (Netscape Mail Server v1.1) with SMTP id AAA254 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:46:57 +0100 Received: from 192.168.10.237 ([192.168.10.237]) by pop3.stapro.cz (WinRoute 3.04a) with SMTP; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:45:04 +0100 From: "Milan Kropacek" Organization: Stapro s.r.o. To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:45:54 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Caj: Bergamot In-reply-to: <36A5935F.2753AB2F@kiv.zcu.cz> Message-ID: <19990120084656402.AAA254@pop3.stapro.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > A propos, bergamot - uz jste to nekdo videl? Ja vim, ze je to citrus, > predstavuju si to jako malinkaty citronky nebo limetky, ale to mi > jaksi nestaci. > Podle ceho se to jmenuje? > Bergamo (Bergama, Pergamon) je mesto v Turecku. Ze by? Cituji: According to one source (Pratt), the name "bergamot" derives from the Turkish for "prince's pear" and designates a pear-shaped citrus fruit (Citrus bergamia) grown around the Mediterranean and used for the oil that can be pressed from its rind for perfumes and this tea. According to another (Chow & Kramer), oil of bergamot is made from the peel of a Canton orange (Citrus aurantium). sources: 1. Pratt, James Norwood. (1982). The tea lover's treasury. San Ramon, CA: 101 Productions. 2. Chow, Kit & Kramer, Ione. (1990). All the tea in China. San Francisco: China Books & Periodicals Inc. -- Milan Kropacek Stapro s.r.o. >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 20 10:20:37 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA13573; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 10:20:37 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA13570 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 10:20:35 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAB06557 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 10:20:34 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA32668 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 10:20:33 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 20 Jan 99 10:20:30 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 20 Jan 99 10:20:28 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 10:20:19 +100 Subject: RE: Caj: Jasmin X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <40ECB2B6BEF@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > > Zatim jsem presvedcen jasminovej caj nepit. K tomu jsem dospel > > > jednou, kdyz jsem ho od jedne zname kostnul v cajovne. Bylo to > > > HROZNY!!!! Ted se jen presvedcuju, ze nejlepsi jeho pouziti je > > > jako dezinfekce WC 8-)))) > > > > > Velice poucny nazor, ale vyrobci cisticich prostredku > > uprednostnuji prece jenom citrony... > > Kdovi jak dlouho. Treba jednou budou vyrabez dezinfekce z > jasminovych caju... Vsichni jste SASCI, Ptaci jazycek je SQELY caj a na dezinfekci zachoda je nejlepsi se do nej vycurat...to postaci. Nechutnal ti jasmin? Byl spatne udelanej a hotovo. Pavel Lahv. Z.d. PS: Ne aby se ti zase rozebehla nejaka debata o tom, ze kazdemu chutna neco jineho apod.apod.apod. Ja to myslel s veselym tonem :-))). Nicmene na jasminu si pochutnam ... a ovonene caje pritom nemam rad a nepiju je. mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 20 10:33:16 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA16712; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 10:33:16 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA16709 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 10:33:15 +0100 Received: from mail.oku-je.cz ([195.47.23.218]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA07405 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 10:32:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from SPRAVCE [172.16.50.100] by mail.oku-je.cz (AltaVista Mail V2.0/2.0 BL23 listener) id 0000_0075_36a5_a182_5da2; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 10:27:30 +0100 Message-ID: <000801be4457$37909ba0$643210ac@spravce> From: "=?iso-8859-2?Q?Ing._Petr_Kyjovsk=FD?=" To: Subject: Re: RE: Caj: Jasmin Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 10:27:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id KAA16710 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > >PS: Ne aby se ti zase rozebehla nejaka debata o tom, ze kazdemu chutna >neco jineho apod.apod.apod. Ja to myslel s veselym tonem :-))). >Nicmene na jasminu si pochutnam ... a ovonene caje pritom nemam rad a >nepiju je. > Moje rec Petr >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 20 11:02:25 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA17002; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 11:02:25 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA16999 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 11:02:24 +0100 Received: from ara.zf.jcu.cz (root@ara.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA08560 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 11:02:24 +0100 (MET) Received: from zf.jcu.cz (vs3-08.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.98]) by ara.zf.jcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA06898 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 11:02:23 +0100 Message-ID: <36A5AAF5.65931B8C@zf.jcu.cz> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 11:07:49 +0100 From: Michal Rada X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: salky Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Je mozne, ze u zaprisahlych zastancu nebo na druhou stranu odpurcu jasminoveho caje nenajdu prilis pochopeni s nasledujicim dotazem, ale budiz. Setkam-li se v cajove literature s uvadenim objemovych mir, co se tyce caju a jejich vyroby, nejcasteji pouzivanym vyrazem jest salek. Dobra. Zapatram-li vsak ve svych zkusenostech, ani limitujici omezeni jejich prilisne nerozsahlosti neni prekazkou, abych si vzpomnel na "kung-fu" salky zvici velikosti naprstku, na obvyklou velikost I'sing salku nebo na salky, ktere dva zminene predci dvojnasobnou velikosti. Je potom tedy rozdil, pripravuji-li urcite mnozstvi cajiku {a tim myslim caj jako surovinu} a zalivam ho ruznym, s pouzitim rozdilne keramiky, mnozstvim vody. Je mi jasne, ze nejjednodussi odpovedi by bylo poukazani na individualni chute a choutky kazdeho cajare, ale dvojnasobne rozdily v objemu zrejme nelze ozrejmit subjektivnim vnimanim. Aby se kazdy nemohl opirat do ruznych casti meho dotazu, polozim konkretni a jasnou otazku: Jaka je obvykla, autory minena a pouzivana velikost salku? Dekuji za kazdou snahu udelat mi v dane problematice jasno a uz o me vice v teto souvislosti neslyset. Michal RADA {priste jiz jenom RADAR - je to kratsi} PS: jasminofilum a jasminohateum doporucuji prozkoumat cely problem s ohledem na pripravu a kvalitu jasminoveho caje. >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 20 11:04:46 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA17022; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 11:04:46 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA17019 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 11:04:45 +0100 From: sladek.roman@spt.cz Received: from dns1.spt.cz (dns1.spt.cz [194.228.96.20]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA08543 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 11:04:38 +0100 (MET) Received: from dns3.spt.cz ([194.228.97.30]) by dns1.spt.cz (8.9.1.ors/8.9.ors) with ESMTP id LAA17458 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 11:04:20 +0100 Received: from om2.spt.cz (om2.apl.spt.cz [172.26.11.18]) by dns3.spt.cz (8.9.1.ors/8.9.ors) with ESMTP id LAA19652 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 11:04:19 +0100 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by om2.spt.cz (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6/SPT-OM 2.0) with SMTP id LAA14800 for caj@dione.zcu.cz; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 11:04:18 +0100 (MET) X-OpenMail-Hops: 2 Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 10:26:19 +0100 X-OpenMail-Transport-Id: Message-Id: <"H00000ca0019cef4*Roman.Sladek/OU=ODST-JC/OU=IAT/O=SPT/PRMD=SPT/ADMD=SPT400/C=CZ"@MHS> Subject: RE: Caj: Jasmin TO: caj@dione.zcu.cz Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz tak jsem si myslel ze je to konference o Caji a ne o WC, asi se tedy odhlasim, ma vubec moderatora???????? -----PUvodni zprava----- Od: LToman Odeslano: 20. ledna 1999 9:42 Komu: caj Kopie: LToman PRedmEt: RE: Caj: Jasmin > > Zatim jsem presvedcen jasminovej caj nepit. K tomu jsem dospel > > jednou, kdyz jsem ho od jedne zname kostnul v cajovne. Bylo to > > HROZNY!!!! Ted se jen presvedcuju, ze nejlepsi jeho pouziti je > > jako dezinfekce WC 8-)))) > > > Velice poucny nazor, ale vyrobci cisticich prostredku > uprednostnuji prece jenom citrony... Kdovi jak dlouho. Treba jednou budou vyrabez dezinfekce z jasminovych caju... Galenius <> >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 20 11:18:53 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA17111; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 11:18:53 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA17108 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 11:18:52 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA08735 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 11:18:52 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA07984 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 11:18:55 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 20 Jan 99 11:18:51 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 20 Jan 99 11:18:33 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 11:18:29 +100 Subject: RE: Caj: Jasmin X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <40FC305481E@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > tak jsem si myslel ze je to konference o Caji a ne o WC, asi se tedy > odhlasim, ma vubec moderatora???????? Vse souvisi se vsim a tak, mily priteli, nasnade poznas, ze i pres WC se muzes dostat k dobremu caji ... koneckoncu i na WC si muzes na caji sqele pochutnat ... neb pravy cajomilec si na caji pochutna proste vsude. Jinak ale jsi si mohl povsimnout, ze debata nebyla o WC, ale jednalo se o maly boj o jasminovy caj. WC se stalo pouze prostredkem. Slovy klasika: Kdyz poslouchas jen to, co je receno, jsi zak. Poslouchas slova, prichazis o nevyslovene. Ve chvili, kdy zacnes poslouchat nevyslovene, vstoupi jsi do rad nasledovniku. Jinak mezi nami, tedy se klidne odhlas, na to mas svate pravo. Pavel Lahv. Z.d. mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 20 11:18:57 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA17124; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 11:18:57 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA17120 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 11:18:57 +0100 Received: from kiv.zcu.cz (ur404p01-rek.rek.zcu.cz [147.228.71.108]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA08877 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 11:18:56 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <36A5AD91.7CF57267@kiv.zcu.cz> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 11:18:57 +0100 From: Pavel Baxa Organization: ZCU Plzen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: salky References: <36A5AAF5.65931B8C@zf.jcu.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Michal Rada wrote: > Aby se kazdy > nemohl opirat do ruznych casti meho dotazu, polozim konkretni a jasnou > otazku: Jaka je obvykla, autory minena a pouzivana velikost salku? Obvykle to byva 200 - 250 ml. Mensi jsou kavove salky, 100 - 150 ml. U Yixingu se obvykle nebere velikost misticky, ale konvice (od 300 do XXXX ml). Nebijte me, jestli mate jiny nazor. Pavel Baxa >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 20 11:25:56 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA17207; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 11:25:56 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA17204 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 11:25:55 +0100 Received: from kiv.zcu.cz (ur404p01-rek.rek.zcu.cz [147.228.71.108]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA09275; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 11:25:54 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <36A5AF34.C20E3763@kiv.zcu.cz> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 11:25:56 +0100 From: Pavel Baxa Organization: ZCU Plzen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Jasmin References: <"H00000ca0019cef4*Roman.Sladek/OU=ODST-JC/OU=IAT/O=SPT/PRMD=SPT/ADMD=SPT400/C=CZ"@MHS> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz sladek.roman@spt.cz wrote: > > tak jsem si myslel ze je to konference o Caji a ne o WC, asi se tedy > odhlasim, ma vubec moderatora???????? Konference CAJ je NEMODEROVANA. Ja se pokousim do jiste miry zasahovat do debaty, viz mail se subj. "Tak dost!", ale ne kazdy to bere na vedomi. Jsou na svete mozky, ktere se proste nedokazou podridit ani par jednoduchym pravidlum. Bohuzel skutecnost, ze nekdo pouziva pro pripravu caje WC, nelze hodnotit jako zcela off-topic, protoze je to o caji :^) Pavel Baxa >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 20 11:31:45 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA17272; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 11:31:45 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA17269 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 11:31:44 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA09720 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 11:31:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA10240 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 11:31:47 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 20 Jan 99 11:31:43 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 20 Jan 99 11:31:35 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 11:31:26 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: salky X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <40FFAA27F49@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz >> Aby se kazdy nemohl opirat do ruznych casti meho dotazu, polozim >> konkretni a jasnou otazku: >> Jaka je obvykla, autory minena a pouzivana velikost salku? > > Obvykle to byva 200 - 250 ml. Mensi jsou kavove salky, 100 - 150 ml. > U Yixingu se obvykle nebere velikost misticky, ale konvice (od 300 > do XXXX ml). Nebijte me, jestli mate jiny nazor. V podstate zastavam nazor stejny. Plusem firmy Oxalis jest, ze ve svych navodech udava mnozstvi na litr vody teple tolik a tolik stupnu. Sam jsem si kdysi take psal kolik na kolik davam (pocet lzic/pocet dl). Casem to clovek da do oka a kde nevi, experimentuje. Ted jsem si delal poprve Lapacho, prvni nalev jsem musel vylit, jak jsem to presvihnul. Druhy uz byl lepsi. Proste experiment. Jinak jsem pohledl do archivu konference a o Lapachu jsem se tu docetl, ze je "...vhodna pro deti i dospele..." a ze "NEOBSAHUJE TEIN". Vse od Milana z adresy "cervenka@plemdat.czn.cz". Zajimal by me, Milane, zdroj te informace, neb na tikete caje je naopak "NEVHODNE PRO DETI". Je tu tedy znacny rozdil obzvlast, vezme-li clovek v potaz pusobeni na zdravi ditete (abych si je jednou nesfetoval). Pavel Lahv. Z.d. mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 20 13:02:16 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA17558; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 13:02:16 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA17555 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 13:02:16 +0100 Received: from ns.felk.cvut.cz (ns.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.9]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA14052 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 13:02:15 +0100 (MET) Received: from sun (sun.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.32]) by ns.felk.cvut.cz (8.9.2/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA83078 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 13:02:15 +0100 (MET) Received: from sun45.felk.cvut.cz by sun (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18294; Wed, 20 Jan 99 13:02:14 +0100 Received: by sun45.felk.cvut.cz (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15346; Wed, 20 Jan 99 13:02:14 +0100 Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 13:02:13 +0100 (MET) From: Tregner Vaclav student 6_98_99 k336 X-Sender: xtregner@sun45 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: RE: Caj: Jasmin In-Reply-To: <40FC305481E@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > muzes dostat k dobremu caji ... koneckoncu i na WC si muzes na caji sqele > pochutnat ... neb pravy cajomilec si na caji pochutna proste vsude. jenom to cajove aroma asi nebude to prave orechove :)) Vasek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 20 13:06:52 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA17649; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 13:06:52 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA17646 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 13:06:51 +0100 Received: from ns.felk.cvut.cz (ns.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.9]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA13725 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 13:06:51 +0100 (MET) Received: from sun (sun.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.32]) by ns.felk.cvut.cz (8.9.2/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA83500 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 13:06:50 +0100 (MET) Received: from sun45.felk.cvut.cz by sun (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18358; Wed, 20 Jan 99 13:06:50 +0100 Received: by sun45.felk.cvut.cz (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15504; Wed, 20 Jan 99 13:06:49 +0100 Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 13:06:48 +0100 (MET) From: Tregner Vaclav student 6_98_99 k336 X-Sender: xtregner@sun45 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: salky In-Reply-To: <40FFAA27F49@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Nepletes si lapacho s rooibos? Pokud vim tak to neobsahuje kofein. Vasek > Jinak jsem pohledl do archivu konference a o Lapachu jsem se tu docetl, > ze je "...vhodna pro deti i dospele..." a ze "NEOBSAHUJE TEIN". Vse od > Milana z adresy "cervenka@plemdat.czn.cz". Zajimal by me, Milane, zdroj > te informace, neb na tikete caje je naopak "NEVHODNE PRO DETI". Je tu tedy > znacny rozdil obzvlast, vezme-li clovek v potaz pusobeni na zdravi ditete > (abych si je jednou nesfetoval). > > Pavel Lahv. Z.d. >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 20 14:07:38 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA17898; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 14:07:38 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA17895 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 14:07:37 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA13723 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 14:07:36 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA30081 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 14:07:41 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 20 Jan 99 14:07:36 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 20 Jan 99 14:07:15 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 14:07:15 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: salky X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <41292F00051@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Nepletes si lapacho s rooibos? Pokud vim tak to neobsahuje kofein. > Vasek > > > Jinak jsem pohledl do archivu konference a o Lapachu jsem se tu docetl, > > ze je "...vhodna pro deti i dospele..." a ze "NEOBSAHUJE TEIN". Vse od > > Milana z adresy "cervenka@plemdat.czn.cz". Zajimal by me, Milane, zdroj > > te informace, neb na tikete caje je naopak "NEVHODNE PRO DETI". Je tu tedy > > znacny rozdil obzvlast, vezme-li clovek v potaz pusobeni na zdravi ditete > > (abych si je jednou nesfetoval). Ne ne ne, tam je to v poradku, to vim. Prave ze Lapacho. Pavel Lahv. Z.d. mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 20 23:37:20 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA19213; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 23:37:20 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA19210 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 23:37:19 +0100 Received: from hermes.iol.cz ([194.228.2.40]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA12002 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 23:37:19 +0100 (MET) Received: from my-pul-n ([194.228.128.167]) by hermes.iol.cz (Post.Office MTA v3.5.2 release 221 ID# 631-58653U30000L30000S0V35) with ESMTP id cz for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 23:36:43 +0100 From: "janvacek" To: "Čajová konference" Subject: Caj: Salky,Jasmin,Bergamot Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 23:34:23 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Message-ID: <19990120223643.AAA8593@hermes.iol.cz@my-pul-n> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Sasek by si dovolil mluvit cesky. Anglicky si toliko o jidlo a nocleh dovede rici, proto ze zpravy o bergamotu moc nemel. Slechta promine, jest to tupec nevzdelany. Bergamot - Citrus aurantium ss.- bergamia, Rutaceae Strom až 10m vysoky s kompaktni kulovitou korunou a vetsinou trnitymi vetvemi. Listy jsou podlouhle elipticke nebo vejcite. Ma vejcite, svetlo zluto hruskovito stredne velko plody. Duzina plodu mu kyselou, nahorklou chut. Prijemne voni. Bergamotovy strom ma jmeno podle mesta Bergamot v Lombardii, kde se tato silice (oleum bergamottae) zacala poprve prodavat.Ziskava se lisovanim cerstveho oplodi. Bergamotova silice mimo to, ze se pridava do caje, ma mnoho dalsich ucinku a pouziti a mimo to vsechno patri take mezi silice zvysujici fotosenzibilitu. Kdo chce lit caj do zachodu, jakykoliv, nezna dusi caje, protoze tu maji vsechny caje stejnou, jen tela jsou rozdilna. Salky, konvice, hrnicky, koflicky, litry, mililitry...Z toho by se jeden ...... Co takhle. Utisit se a poslouchat. Nejprve vodu jak chladne, az rekne ted! Pak zalit caj a znovu cekat az v tichu ozve se....jsem hotov, muzes mne slit. Pak jeste tiseji pit, objevovat telo caje a pozjeji i jeho dusi. Nakonec podekovat. Tot navod universalni, na kazdy caj pouzitelny. Klani se Sasek PS: Mozky neschopne se podridit pravidlum? A co takhle pravidla ciste vnitrni prirozenosti. >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 20 23:37:08 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA19208; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 23:37:08 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA19205 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 23:37:06 +0100 Received: from hermes.iol.cz ([194.228.2.40]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA11982 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 23:37:06 +0100 (MET) Received: from my-pul-n ([194.228.128.167]) by hermes.iol.cz (Post.Office MTA v3.5.2 release 221 ID# 631-58653U30000L30000S0V35) with ESMTP id cz for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 23:36:34 +0100 From: "janvacek" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Jasmin Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 22:50:31 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Message-ID: <19990120223634.AAA8555@hermes.iol.cz@my-pul-n> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz ---------- : Odesílatel: sladek.roman@spt.cz : Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz : Předmět: RE: Caj: Jasmin : Datum: 20. I 1999 10:26 : : tak jsem si myslel ze je to konference o Caji a ne o WC, asi se tedy : odhlasim, ma vubec moderatora???????? : Tak sbohem Klani se Sasek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Jan 21 08:33:35 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA20091; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 08:33:35 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA20088 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 08:33:34 +0100 Received: from eryx2.zcu.cz (eryx2.zcu.cz [147.228.206.13]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA17332 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 08:33:33 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (jurista@localhost) by eryx2.zcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA03664 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 08:33:33 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: eryx2.zcu.cz: jurista owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 08:33:33 +0100 (MET) From: Demeter Jurista X-Sender: jurista@eryx2.zcu.cz To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Jasmin - omluva Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ahoj vsem, je mi lito, ze nekteri ne zcela pochopili lehkou ironie pri debate o priprave jasminoveho caje. Chtel jsem jenom rici, ze mi ne zcela chutna a proto jsem pouzil onu okridlenou vetu. Pokud jsem snad nekoho urazil, tedy se omlouvam. Mita DJ >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Jan 21 15:15:49 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA21184; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:15:49 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA21181 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:15:48 +0100 Received: from ns.felk.cvut.cz (ns.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.9]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA31847 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:15:48 +0100 (MET) Received: from sun (sun.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.32]) by ns.felk.cvut.cz (8.9.2/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA68436 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:15:48 +0100 (MET) Received: from sol21.felk.cvut.cz by sun (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13881; Thu, 21 Jan 99 15:15:46 +0100 Received: by sol21.felk.cvut.cz (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA01659; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:18:42 +0100 Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:18:42 +0100 From: xtregner@sun.felk.cvut.cz (Tregner Vaclav student 6_98_99 k336) Message-Id: <199901131518.QAA01659@sol21.felk.cvut.cz> To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Ruskij samovar Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Md5: K1aKVS5i6XVo6dUF54nioA== Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Restaurace stejnyho jmena (asi to bude ona) je pobliz Jiraskova namesti (asi 100 m), je to ta ulice paralelni s Resslovou smerem na Karlak (kousek dal je cajovna AMANA). Ale pro cajare to asi nic neni. Je to spis stylova restaurace s ruskou kuchyni. Jidlo je tam ale strasne drahy (kolem 400-700 Kc). Nebyl jsem tam, jenom jsem koukal na jidelni listek (Saslik dekabristu, Petra Velikeho, Iljice Lenina a podobne :)). Me to pripada ze je to spis restaurace pro rusky mafiany. Vasek > Zdravstvuj ! > Mam jen takovou drobnost. Na Malostranskem namesti, kam chodim do skoly, se > objevila cedule 'Restaurant Ruskuj samovar', ve skutecnosti to je azbukou, > ale nevim, jak byste se na to tvarili (ani nevim, jak bych to psal). Nova > restaurace je kdesi na Praze 2, na ceduli je uvedena i ulice, c.p. i > telefon. > > Michail > > >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Jan 21 16:08:11 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA21461; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:08:11 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA21458 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:08:11 +0100 Received: from ns1.ipnet.cz (ns1.ipnet.cz [212.20.64.2]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA00672 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:08:07 +0100 (MET) Received: from pent-200 (a2r1-pribram.ipnet.cz [212.20.68.55]) by ns1.ipnet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA00550 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:07:41 +0100 Message-ID: <000201be454f$6cf856e0$374414d4@pent-200> From: "BENT" To: Subject: Re: Re: Caj: Lotos Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 19:17:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Pred vanocemi jsem od vietnamcu koupil dva sacky lotosoveho caje. Pouzil jsem pouze jeden a musim rici, ze mi to prislo velmi, velmi nedobre. Ma tu tenhle druh nejake zastance? Michael >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Jan 21 16:08:48 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA21480; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:08:48 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA21474 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:08:47 +0100 Received: from ns1.ipnet.cz (ns1.ipnet.cz [212.20.64.2]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA00250 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:08:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from pent-200 (a2r1-pribram.ipnet.cz [212.20.68.55]) by ns1.ipnet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA00568 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:08:27 +0100 Message-ID: <001501be454f$87e1aec0$374414d4@pent-200> From: "BENT" To: Subject: Caj: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Re:=C8cha_mruk__?= Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:05:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz desatero správné prípravy čaje > >1. Caje nikdy nevaríme. >2. Sparujeme zasadne v sklenenych salcich 3. Caj se sparuje vzdy prave vrouci vodou. >4. Voda ke spareni caje ma byt vzdy cerstva. >5. Vodu varime vejradeji v cajovych konvicich z nerez oceli, ale pouzivame jich nikoliv ke spareni caje. Primi styk s kovem silne narusuje chut napoje. >6. Kovova vajicka nebo kovova sitka - ceditka nejsou vhodna pro spravnou pripravu caje. >7. Nadoby, ktere pouzivame k priprave caje nebo ohrati vody, neumivame nikdy s ostatnim nadobim, ale pouze je vyplachujeme horkou vodou a nechame odkapat nebo vysusit. >8. Caj sparujeme pouze po urcitou dobu. Cerny caj sparujeme po dobu 4 az 6 minut, zeleny pouze 3 minuty, ne dele. >9. Caj prechovavame v dobre uzavrenych plechovkach . >10.Caj podavame vzdy cerstve pripraveny a teply. Zeleny caj sladime dvojnasobne nez caj cerny. Caj nikdy jiz neprehrivame. ##################################################################### Čcha se dá připravovat i pít na 108 způsobů a nejlepší je dozajista ten váš. rád bych učinil pár poznámek(nic ve zlým oproti shora uvedenému X-sateru) jak jsem tyto zvyklosti měl pro zatím příležitost poznat já 1,Čcha připravovaný v severní Indii, Nepálu,Tibetu, Mongolsku (a pravděpodobně i v dalších horských či podobně extrémních přírodních podmínkách) se svařuje s dalšími přísadami (mléko, ghí, kumis, pražené obilniny....)a přesto, že se v mnoha případech podobá husté polévce, jde o velmi posilující Čcha. 2,Již od 16.století se v Číně hojně používá neglazovaná kamenina z oblasti Ising. Čcha v ní zůstává déle teplý, i když několikero prvních várek Čcha je cítit lehkou pachutí kameniny.Je proto žádoucí udělat pár prvních zálivů "jalových".Mnoho těchto souprav svojí vyzáží předčí klasický známý porcelán. 3,Jemnější a ušlechtilejší zelený Čcha, jako je Lung Ching, Gyokuro, Pi Lo Chun ..., je li spařený příliš horkou vodou, hořkne a strácí žádoucí aroma. Kvalitnější japonské zelené Čcha (např. výše uvedené Gyokuro) se zalévají dokonce vodou schladlou zhruba ku 60`C. Vždy je žádoucí vodu přinejmenším dovést k bodu varu a není li z důvěryhodného pramene (jedná li se třeba o piknik v přírodě) i po krátkou dobu převařit. 4,V dnešní době již není pro mnoho lidí dostupno vařit svůj oblíbený čaj z pramenité vody z dobrého pramene. Většina vody tryská z kohoutku a protéká povětšinou skrze některou (alespoň menší) chemičku a při přípravě dobrých zelených i tak chutná. O kus lepší vytéká z plastových či skleněných lahví, ovšem je zase řádně uleželá. Nejlepší vyvěrá ve "studáce u lesa" ,ovšem ta není všem běžně dostupná. Čcha z ní je plné chuti, jemné vůně a jasné barvy. 5,V Arábii a severní Africe je rozšířen tradiční způsob přípravy Čcha svařeného na ohni v kovové konvi společně s cukrem. Čcha takto zalévají i potřikráte, a to zelený často připravený i s mátou známý jako Nana neb LaTuareg (severní Afrika, Israel) a také černý převážně keňský a turecký, taktéž hojně doslazovaný, rozlévaný přímo z oněch kovových konvic, z úctihodné výšky, do malých skleněných šálků, velikosti štamprle. Není od věci pozorovat ohřev vody ve varné konvici ze skla, jde li to. Hezká podívaná. 6,Luhování ruzných Čcha je odvozeno od jejich specifik a nedá se zobecnit. Kupříkladu červený "Darjeeling Namring" bych doporučil luhovat 2-2,5 minuty oproti tmavému Nilgiri jež bych luhoval asi 4-5minut. Zelené Čcha se luhují asi 3 minuty. Kvalitní zelené Čcha vydá na 3 i více nálevů, přičemž údajně druhý je nejdelikátnější chuti. Nesnášíte li dobře "byllinou" chuť prvního nálevu můžete nejprve krátce Čcha prolít malým množstvím ohřaté vody a po 0,5-1 minutě nálev vylít. druhý nálev již pozbyde "senné" chuti. 7,V Arábii jakož i Turecku se s běžným Čcha obchoduje na trzích a tržištích. Čcha je vyložen na prašných ulicích v jutových pytlích a dřevěných otevřených krabicích. Přesto(či proto?), jest tento velmi chutný. 8,Na jedno "štamprle" tohoto černého arabského se přidává 3-6 kostek cukru (nedovedu si představit jak jest možno osladit zelený více). Závěrem bych chtěl dodat. Kdo poutá ducha Čaje přísnými pravidly, zabijí jej. Však Dá li Mu Kdo Volnosti I Pozornosti Naplní Jej V úctě k Vám Tom Bent >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Jan 21 16:47:30 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA21675; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:47:30 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA21672 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:47:30 +0100 Received: from ns.mas.cz (root@ns.mas.cz [194.212.135.2]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA01836 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:47:29 +0100 (MET) Received: from cigi.mas.cz (p0l1h1.mas.cz [194.212.135.134]) by ns.mas.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA25218 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:47:27 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <001c01be4555$bdae3540$8687d4c2@cigi.mas.cz> From: "=?iso-8859-2?B?VuFjbGF2IENpa+Fu?=" To: Subject: Caj: oolong Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:49:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz vcera jsem dostal v Amane k nahlednuti jeden clanek, ktery vysel n Mlade fronte Dnes. Cely clanek je o tom, ze caj na hubnuti je podvod, jelikoz - cituji : Zapecetena krabice s cajem nese originalni oznaceni od vyrobce OOlong tea. "Pismelo O zastupuje slovo orange, coz je znacka pro kvalitnejsi sortu caje. Long znamena, ze se pestuje na plantazich v nadmorske vysce nad sest set metru," vysvetluje prodavac caje z prazske Ruzove cajovny Pavel Fischer." Tot uryvek, ke kteremu se snad ani neda cokoli pripominat, cituji ho jen proto, ze komukoli o tom vykladam, tak mi neveri!!! Vaclav Cikan tea-mail: cigi@cajovna.cz Cajovy List: www.cajovna.cz >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Jan 21 21:58:00 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA22386; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 21:58:00 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA22383 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 21:57:59 +0100 Received: from ns.seznam.cz (ns.seznam.cz [195.39.10.2]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA08596 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 21:57:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from win95 (nobody@c156.terminal.cz [195.70.130.156] (may be forged)) by ns.seznam.cz (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA32492 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 23:57:51 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990121215941.00c4a90c@bivoj.it.cas.cz> X-Sender: kulveit@bivoj.it.cas.cz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 21:59:41 +0100 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz From: Jan Kulveit Subject: Caj: Jemca (a PIGI) In-Reply-To: <40ECB2B6BEF@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id VAA22384 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ahoj, pred nejakou dobou jste tu diskutovali o vyrobnim procesu PIGI caje. Stranka vyrobce (system.cz/jemca), ktera puvod a slozeni cajovych smesi vysvetluje, me pripada tak "dobra", ze by bylo skoda nezacitovat: --- ČERNÉ ČAJE  PORCOVANÉ --- Pigi čaj: směs severoindických čajů, vyznačujících se rubínově hnědou barvou a květinovou vůní. Premiant: směs severoindických čajů, vyznačujících se rubínově hnědou barvou a květinovou vůní. Klub čaj: směs severoindických čajů, vyznačujících se rubínově hnědou barvou a květinovou vůní. Indický čaj: směs severoindických čajů, vyznačujících se rubínově hnědou barvou a květinovou vůní. --- *** ... jen tak dal :-))) --- *** Popis k caji Gunpowder: --- Zelený čaj: čaj je před fermentací speciálně upraven tak, aby zůstala zachována zeleno^Úedá barva čajinek. Po spaření se čajinky plně rozvinou, nálev má slámově ^Ţlutou a^Ţ nazelenalou barvu, výraznou vůni po rybině. Chu^Ý nálevu je hořce svíravá. Čaj má velmi povzbuzující a osvě^Ţující účinky. Speciální úpravou je dosa^Ţeno toho, ^Ţe čajové třísloviny zesilují účinek teinu (čajového alkoholu). --- *** vyborny je ten cajovy alkohol ;-))) ^^^^^^^^^^^ Honza Kulveit >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Jan 22 08:16:37 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA23302; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:16:37 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA23299 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:16:36 +0100 Received: from gate.hob.cz ([194.108.46.250]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA16728 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:16:35 +0100 (MET) Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by gate.hob.cz (8.8.2/8.8.2) id IAA01385 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:16:35 +0100 Received: from primus.hob.cz(172.21.1.16) by gate.hob.cz via smap (V2.1) id xma001383; Fri, 22 Jan 99 08:16:07 +0100 Received: by primus.hob.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:19:19 +0100 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?H=E1jek_Ctirad?= To: "'caj@dione.zcu.cz'" Subject: Caj: setkani v Plzni Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:19:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Vazeni pratele cajomilci, v sobotu vecer (asi 19:00) se nas nekolik sejde v cajovne v Plachovce v Plzni. Jste vitani - zejmena bych rad pozval ty, ktere znam, tedy Pavla Baxu a Martina Fouska. Prijde Mr. Bent. Ctirad >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Jan 22 08:27:54 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA23326; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:27:54 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA23323 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:27:53 +0100 Received: from eryx2.zcu.cz (eryx2.zcu.cz [147.228.206.13]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA17113 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:27:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (jurista@localhost) by eryx2.zcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA22143 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:27:53 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: eryx2.zcu.cz: jurista owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:27:53 +0100 (MET) From: Demeter Jurista X-Sender: jurista@eryx2.zcu.cz To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Setkani v Plzni Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Zdravim, setkani beru v potaz a pokud okolnost (ta urcita) dovoli prijdu se podivat. Mita DJ >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Jan 22 08:33:00 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA23354; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:33:00 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA23351 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:32:59 +0100 Received: from ns-pils.pilsner-urquell.cz (ns-pils.pilsner-urquell.cz [193.85.100.5]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA17120 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:32:59 +0100 (MET) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns-pils.pilsner-urquell.cz (8.9.0/8.8.5) with UUCP id IAA10040 for caj@dione.zcu.cz; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:54:56 +0100 (MET) Received: from plzen11.pilsner-urquell.cz (plzen11.pilsner-urquell.cz [172.20.1.11]) by ns1.pilsner-urquell.cz (8.9.0/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA26657 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:06:20 +0100 (CET) Received: by plzen11.pilsner-urquell.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:20:54 +0100 Message-ID: From: "Fousek Martin Ing." To: "'caj@dione.zcu.cz'" Subject: Caj: RE: Poutnikovo miska Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:20:49 +0100 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id IAA23352 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Vazeni pratele, dovolte mi, abych se jako novy clen konference predstavil - jmenuji se Martin Fousek, bydlim v Plzni, je mi 29 a do konference jsem se dostal prostrednictvim Ctirada Hajka. Podle elektronicke adresy je vam patrne, ze pracuji mimo caje take s dalsi tekutinou netusenych moznosti - pivem (tim nechci v zadnem pripade obhajovat v konferenci nekolikrat zminovanou "pivni kulturu"). Poutnikovu misku jsem zkusil postupem b), opakoval jsem cely den a zodpovedne musim rici, ze nejlepsi byl druhy nalev (prvni byl spise chuti slamove, az travni, druhy se rozvinul do chuti prijemne, dalsi nalevy - zkusil jsem jeste dva - byly jiz mene a mene vyrazne, az bez chuti). Doporucuji pouzit vetsi misku - caj se z puvodniho lisovaneho "hnizdecka" hodne rozvine. Zdravim konferenci Martin > ---------- > Od: Hájek Ctirad[SMTP:HajekC@hob.cz] > Odesláno: 19. ledna 1999 8:56 > Komu: 'caj@dione.zcu.cz' > Předmět: Caj: Poutnikovo miska > > Vcera jsem si odnesl z cajovny (Plachovka) caj nazvany Poutnikovo > miska. > Jeste jsem ho nezkusil, tak se ptam, zda ma nekdo zkusenosti s > pripravou. > Dle sdeleni obsluhy lze pripravit: > a) varit asi 15 minut > b) zalit primo v misce vrouci vodou + vypit, postup opakovat cely den > > Dekuji za odpoved > Ctirad > >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Jan 22 10:17:36 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA23643; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 10:17:36 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA23640 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 10:17:35 +0100 Received: from ns-pils.pilsner-urquell.cz (ns-pils.pilsner-urquell.cz [193.85.100.5]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA20802 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 10:17:34 +0100 (MET) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns-pils.pilsner-urquell.cz (8.9.0/8.8.5) with UUCP id KAA10285 for caj@dione.zcu.cz; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 10:27:45 +0100 (MET) Received: from plzen11.pilsner-urquell.cz (plzen11.pilsner-urquell.cz [172.20.1.11]) by ns1.pilsner-urquell.cz (8.9.0/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA26885 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 10:32:09 +0100 (CET) Received: by plzen11.pilsner-urquell.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:46:41 +0100 Message-ID: From: "Fousek Martin Ing." To: "'caj@dione.zcu.cz'" Subject: Caj: RE: setkani v Plzni Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:46:39 +0100 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id KAA23641 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Dobrej napad - urcite prijdu. Martin > ---------- > Od: Hájek Ctirad[SMTP:HajekC@hob.cz] > Odesláno: 22. ledna 1999 8:19 > Komu: 'caj@dione.zcu.cz' > Předmět: Caj: setkani v Plzni > > Vazeni pratele cajomilci, > v sobotu vecer (asi 19:00) se nas nekolik sejde v cajovne v Plachovce > v > Plzni. > Jste vitani - zejmena bych rad pozval ty, ktere znam, tedy Pavla Baxu > a > Martina Fouska. > Prijde Mr. Bent. > > Ctirad > >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Jan 22 12:15:22 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA23938; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 12:15:22 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA23935 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 12:15:21 +0100 Received: from kiv.zcu.cz (ur404p01-rek.rek.zcu.cz [147.228.71.108]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA25027; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 12:15:20 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <36A85DC8.886C10EE@kiv.zcu.cz> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 12:15:20 +0100 From: Pavel Baxa Organization: ZCU Plzen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: oolong References: <001c01be4555$bdae3540$8687d4c2@cigi.mas.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Václav Cikán wrote: > > vcera jsem dostal v Amane k nahlednuti jeden clanek, ktery vysel > v Mlade fronte Dnes. > ... > "Pismelo O zastupuje slovo orange, coz je znacka pro kvalitnejsi sortu caje. > Long znamena, ze se pestuje na plantazich v nadmorske vysce nad sest set > metru," vysvetluje prodavac caje z prazske Ruzove cajovny Pavel Fischer." > Tot uryvek, ke kteremu se snad ani neda cokoli pripominat, cituji ho jen > proto, ze komukoli o tom vykladam, tak mi neveri!!! Potvrzuji. Kdo neveri, at bezi na http://www.idnes.cz/idskosile/test.asp?x=test/clanky/990111_154155_test_jup nebo si precte MF DNES (klidne az zejtra) ze dne 11.1.1999 (nebo 13.1.1999?). Pavel Baxa >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Jan 22 14:29:59 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA24522; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 14:29:59 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA24519 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 14:29:59 +0100 Received: from hermes.iol.cz ([194.228.2.40]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA28442 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 14:29:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from my-pul-n ([194.228.128.187]) by hermes.iol.cz (Post.Office MTA v3.5.2 release 221 ID# 631-58653U30000L30000S0V35) with ESMTP id cz for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 14:29:25 +0100 From: "janvacek" To: Subject: Caj: Re: Re:Čcha mruk Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 14:25:53 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Message-ID: <19990122132925.AAC89@hermes.iol.cz@my-pul-n> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Kdo poutá ducha Čaje přísnými pravidly, zabijí jej. Však Dá li Mu Kdo Volnosti I Pozornosti Naplní Jej V úctě k Vám Tom Bent Sasek dekuje za tuto zpravu. Jeho komediantska duse se zachvela a bezel hned udelat sobe dobro ccha. Dovoluje si pridat jednu malou radu. Ackoliv je jasne, ze dobra pramenita voda je na pripravu caje nejlepsi, vychazim z mestkych podminek. Lze zakoupit konvici na filtrovani vody. Vodu nalijem, neni tudiz radne odlezela, a po prefiltrovani získáme tekutinu vode pramenite o mnoho vice podobnou, nez byla puvodni neupravena z kohoutku. Investice do teto konvice neni nijak zavratna, a clovek pak nema problemy z obaly od vody kupovane. Nabral jsem vodu a nabizim jeji zar mesici Z vyberu japanskych haiku Santoka Klani se Sasek ---------- >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Jan 25 06:24:07 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA30860; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 06:24:07 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA30857 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 06:24:06 +0100 Received: from zp999a.zivpo.cz (ms.zivpo.cz [195.146.106.228]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA31351 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 06:24:05 +0100 (MET) Received: by ms.zivpo.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 06:24:05 +0100 Message-ID: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A3901197098@PUEX1C1> From: Toman Lukás To: "'caj@dione.zcu.cz'" Subject: Caj: Borsov Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 06:24:14 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Tak jsme byl ted v Praze. Krome par dalsich akci i vyzkouset 2 cajovny. Byli jsme v Pulnocni cajovne (i kdyz prostredi nic moc, caje slusny) a na Borsove. A reknu vam, takhle zkazit caj jsem uz hooodne dlouho nikoho nevidel. Bylo nas tam 6 a 5 z nas si chtelo dat Wu Longa. Donesli to v PLECHOVY konvici postaveny nad svickou a louhovat ho nechali alespon 10 minut. A na piti sklenicky. Bylo to skutecne hnusny (proti tomu zlatej jasminovej caj). A kdyz jsme pak si stezovali, tak pronaseli neco ve smyslu "Muzete bejt radi, ze jsme vam dali vubec neco. V plechovejch konvicich davame casto. A co chcete, kdyz jste chteli silnej caj." Nevim jak vy, ale ja bych Wu Longa za silny caj rozhodne nepovazoval. Jinak jejich chovani lze popsat jen jako absolutni neuctu k zakaznikovi. Galenius >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Jan 25 10:12:37 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA31238; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:12:37 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA31235 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:12:36 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA05020 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:12:32 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20464; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:12:35 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 25 Jan 99 10:12:31 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 25 Jan 99 10:12:07 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: Demeter Jurista , caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:11:58 +100 Subject: Caj: Jasmin - omluva...Lapsang (???) X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <420BE8089A@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Ahoj vsem, > je mi lito, ze nekteri ne zcela pochopili lehkou ironie pri debate > o priprave jasminoveho caje. Chtel jsem jenom rici, ze mi ne zcela chutna > a proto jsem pouzil onu okridlenou vetu. > Pokud jsem snad nekoho urazil, tedy se omlouvam. Ale naopak, rozproudila se uzasna debata, ktera se dokazala na chvili prenest i za dvere toalet. Kterepak konferenci se to postesti ;-))) ? Ale aby tohle nebylo off-topic (nebo jak se to pise) ... cesky to je "mimo tema" ... mel jsem ted Lapsang S. v restauraci u M. Buddhy v Praze. Prinesli caj. S usmevem jsem se pak zeptal, co ze to bylo za docela dobry cerny caj ... Lapsang rozhodne ne. Omluvili se a prinesli novy (ac jsem o nej nezadal). Bylo to to same. To uz jsem sel k pultu, abych se kouknul, z ceho to berou. A on to SKUTECNE byl Lapsang. Aspon tak vonel. Rozpredl jsem s panem majitelem (skvely chlapik) debatu, ze ma ty caje mocmocmoc slabe (je to Vietnamec, ale cestinu zvlada dobre, koreni ji svym prizvukem) a ze uz je od nich nebude kupovat, ze to je posledni varka. Od koho ze ty caje byly? Je mi lito, ale opet firma Oxalis (sam mi to ukazoval). Pavel Lahv. Z.d. mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Jan 25 10:49:10 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA31414; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:49:10 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from eros.zcu.cz (eros.zcu.cz [147.228.1.10]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA31411 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:49:09 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by eros.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA06178 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:49:09 +0100 Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24618 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:49:04 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 25 Jan 99 10:49:00 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 25 Jan 99 10:48:46 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:48:45 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Re:Ccha mruk X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <42A84F4B65@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Kdo pouta ducha Caje prisnymi pravidly, zabiji jej. > > Vsak Da li Mu Kdo Volnosti I Pozornosti, Naplni Jej To by se melo stat mottem konference ... a i cajesmilcu > > V ucte k Vam > > Tom Bent I k Tobe Pavel Lahv. Z.d. mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Jan 25 10:51:36 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA31431; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:51:36 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from eros.zcu.cz (eros.zcu.cz [147.228.1.10]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA31428 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:51:35 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by eros.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA06274 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:51:35 +0100 Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25092 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:51:33 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 25 Jan 99 10:51:28 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 25 Jan 99 10:51:04 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:51:04 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Borsov X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <42B228016F@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > A reknu vam, takhle zkazit caj jsem uz hooodne dlouho nikoho nevidel. > Bylo nas tam 6 a 5 z nas si chtelo dat Wu Longa. Donesli to v PLECHOVY > konvici postaveny nad svickou a louhovat ho nechali alespon 10 minut. A na > piti sklenicky. Bylo to skutecne hnusny (proti tomu zlatej jasminovej caj). > A kdyz jsme pak si stezovali, tak pronaseli neco ve smyslu "Muzete bejt > radi, ze jsme vam dali vubec neco. V plechovejch konvicich davame casto. > A co chcete, kdyz jste chteli silnej caj." > Nevim jak vy, ale ja bych Wu Longa za silny caj rozhodne nepovazoval. Jinak > jejich chovani lze popsat jen jako absolutni neuctu k zakaznikovi. > > Galenius Ale ale, ze by zase jedna DCv Praze jdouci do haje ... viz Cajemilcovi stranky o cajovne v Roxy ... take DC. Pavel Lahv. Z.d. mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Jan 25 12:21:05 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA32318; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:21:05 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from eros.zcu.cz (eros.zcu.cz [147.228.1.10]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA32315 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:21:04 +0100 Received: from zp999a.zivpo.cz (ms.zivpo.cz [195.146.106.228]) by eros.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA10003 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:21:04 +0100 Received: by ms.zivpo.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:20:13 +0100 Message-ID: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A39011970A8@PUEX1C1> From: Toman Lukás To: "'caj@dione.zcu.cz'" Subject: RE: Caj: Borsov Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:20:10 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > A reknu vam, takhle zkazit caj jsem uz hooodne dlouho > nikoho nevidel. > > Bylo nas tam 6 a 5 z nas si chtelo dat Wu Longa. Donesli to > v PLECHOVY > > konvici postaveny nad svickou a louhovat ho nechali alespon > 10 minut. A na > > piti sklenicky. Bylo to skutecne hnusny (proti tomu zlatej > jasminovej caj). > > A kdyz jsme pak si stezovali, tak pronaseli neco ve smyslu > "Muzete bejt > > radi, ze jsme vam dali vubec neco. V plechovejch konvicich > davame casto. > > A co chcete, kdyz jste chteli silnej caj." > > Nevim jak vy, ale ja bych Wu Longa za silny caj rozhodne > nepovazoval. Jinak > > jejich chovani lze popsat jen jako absolutni neuctu k zakaznikovi. > > > Ale ale, ze by zase jedna DCv Praze jdouci do haje ... viz > Cajemilcovi > stranky o cajovne v Roxy ... take DC. Kdo vi... Ale uz to tak asi vypada... Nastesti si pak clovek spravil cajovou naladu v Pulnocni cajovne. Pai Mu Tan byl dobrej... Jinak by me stejne zajimalo, co nam to v ty konvici vubec donesli. Podle chute to Cerny drak nebyl. V praci si Oolonga delam dost casto a i kdyz na nej nekdy pro prilisne mnozstvi prace zapomenu, nikdy neni tak hnusnej jako bylo to v ty konvici. Dost mi to pripominalo ten sajrajt, co pri prichodu davaj v Roxy. Galenius >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Jan 25 12:56:57 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA32529; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:56:57 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA32526 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:56:56 +0100 Received: from ns.felk.cvut.cz (ns.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.9]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA03024 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:56:55 +0100 (MET) Received: from sun (sun.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.32]) by ns.felk.cvut.cz (8.9.2/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA95581 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:56:54 +0100 (MET) Received: from sun45.felk.cvut.cz by sun (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19150; Mon, 25 Jan 99 12:56:53 +0100 Received: by sun45.felk.cvut.cz (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02585; Mon, 25 Jan 99 12:56:53 +0100 Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:56:51 +0100 (MET) From: Tregner Vaclav student 6_98_99 k336 X-Sender: xtregner@sun45 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Technicka poznamka In-Reply-To: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A39011970A8@PUEX1C1> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Jak vam dlouho trva nez se vami poslany mail objevi v konferenci? Me docela dlouho a ted se mi napr. stalo ze se tam objevil muj mail poslany pred 14 dny :(( To uz je prispevek jaksi mimo misu. Vasek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Jan 25 13:09:13 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA32652; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 13:09:13 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA32649 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 13:09:12 +0100 Received: from zp999a.zivpo.cz (ms.zivpo.cz [195.146.106.228]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA05770 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 13:09:11 +0100 (MET) Received: by ms.zivpo.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 13:09:03 +0100 Message-ID: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A39011970A9@PUEX1C1> From: Toman Lukás To: "'caj@dione.zcu.cz'" Subject: Caj: RE: Technicka poznamka Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 13:09:00 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz No, me to trva tak 10 minut az hodinu... dyl vetsinou ne... Galenius > -----Original Message----- > From: Tregner Vaclav student 6_98_99 k336 > [mailto:xtregner@sun.felk.cvut.cz] > Sent: Monday, January 25, 1999 12:57 PM > To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Subject: Caj: Technicka poznamka > > > Jak vam dlouho trva nez se vami poslany mail objevi v konferenci? Me > docela dlouho a ted se mi napr. stalo ze se tam objevil muj > mail poslany > pred 14 dny :(( To uz je prispevek jaksi mimo misu. > Vasek > >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Jan 25 13:50:44 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA00159; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 13:50:44 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA00155 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 13:50:43 +0100 Received: from sun.fsid.cvut.cz (sun.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA09676 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 13:50:42 +0100 (MET) Received: from student.fsid.cvut.cz (student.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.3]) by sun.fsid.cvut.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA18572 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:50:41 GMT Received: from FSICD1/SpoolDir by student.fsid.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.21); 25 Jan 99 13:50:40 MET-1MEST Received: from SpoolDir by FSICD1 (Mercury 1.21); 25 Jan 99 13:50:36 MET-1MEST From: "Jan Kasparek, cajomilec, student" Organization: FSI CVUT, Prague To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 13:50:32 MET-1MEST Subject: Caj: Technicka poznamka 2. X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-ID: Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Me se zase stava, ze mi drive prijde odpoved na nejaky mail, nez ten mail vlastni. Je chyba v konferenci nebo "po ceste"?? Straka ________________________________ Jan Straka Kasparek E-mail: kasparek@student.fsid.cvut.cz http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek Pozvanka pro cajomilce: http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek/tea.htm >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Jan 25 16:36:19 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA00625; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 16:36:19 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA00622 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 16:36:18 +0100 Received: from dahlia.mendelu.cz (dahlia.mendelu.cz [195.178.72.10]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA16561 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 16:36:18 +0100 (MET) Received: from dahlia.mendelu.cz (dahlia.mendelu.cz [195.178.72.10]) by dahlia.mendelu.cz (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id QAA01459 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 16:32:59 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 16:32:59 +0100 (MET) From: Ivo Jancik To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Lotos In-Reply-To: <000201be454f$6cf856e0$374414d4@pent-200> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Michael Bent pravi: > Pred vanocemi jsem od vietnamcu koupil > dva sacky lotosoveho caje. Pouzil jsem pouze jeden > a musim rici, ze mi to prislo velmi, velmi nedobre. > Ma tu tenhle druh nejake zastance? Ano, ma. Oblibil jsem si lotosovy od Kwong Sang a nedam nan dopustit. Mozna mne ted nekdo bude kamenovat, mozna mnou zhrdnete, ale vedle cistych zelenych a polozelenych caju si rad dopravam i aromatizovane. Mam rad jasmin, mam rad lotos, orchideu, divokou tresen a nektere dalsi. A dobre se bavim, kdyz nekdo leje jasminovy caj do odpadni jimky. Proc? Neni to zbytecne? Neni to trochu od caje? Ivos. ------------------------------ jancik@mendelu.cz http://dahlia.mendelu.cz/~jancik >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Mon Jan 25 17:00:23 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA00667; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 17:00:23 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA00664 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 17:00:22 +0100 Received: from dahlia.mendelu.cz (dahlia.mendelu.cz [195.178.72.10]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA21340 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 17:00:22 +0100 (MET) Received: from dahlia.mendelu.cz (dahlia.mendelu.cz [195.178.72.10]) by dahlia.mendelu.cz (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id QAA02554 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 16:57:07 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 16:57:07 +0100 (MET) From: Ivo Jancik To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Kniha o caji (Book of Tea) In-Reply-To: <000201be454f$6cf856e0$374414d4@pent-200> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Zdravim k caji. Zprava, ktera se tu jeste nevyskytla: V unoru vydava nakladatelstvi Brody Knihu o caji japonskeho autora Kakuzo Okakury. Ma byt distribuovana siti Dobrych cajoven. Knihu prekladala pani Dita Horakova. Osobne se mi uvedeny preklad jevi stastnejsi, nez ten, ktery siri nakladatelstvi CADO (na jmeno autora si ted nevzpomenu). Neco najdete na http://www.brody.cz/novinky.htm. V Lidovych novinach vysel clanek s uryvkem z knihy, bylo to 14. ledna t. r. Ivos. ------------------------------ jancik@mendelu.cz http://dahlia.mendelu.cz/~jancik >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Jan 26 07:42:26 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA02050; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 07:42:26 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA02047 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 07:42:24 +0100 Received: from kanec.linux (kanec.plemdat.czn.cz [194.213.228.200]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA03421 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 07:42:21 +0100 (MET) Received: from milan (milan.plemdat.czn.cz [223.45.6.152]) by kanec.linux (8.8.5/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id IAA00407 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 08:38:10 GMT Message-ID: <002c01be48f7$0d0e1020$98062ddf@milan> From: "=?iso-8859-2?Q?Milan_=C8ervenka?=" To: Subject: Caj: sem tu zase Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 07:42:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Jinak jsem pohledl do archivu konference a o Lapachu jsem se tu docetl, >ze je "...vhodna pro deti i dospele..." a ze "NEOBSAHUJE TEIN". Vse od >Milana z adresy "cervenka@plemdat.czn.cz". Zajimal by me, Milane, zdroj >te informace, neb na tikete caje je naopak "NEVHODNE PRO DETI". Je tu tedy >znacny rozdil obzvlast, vezme-li clovek v potaz pusobeni na zdravi ditete >(abych si je jednou nesfetoval). Ahoj vsici a Lahv... Hele mezi nama, ja to taky opsal z etikety, a vsechno beru s rezervou, myslim ze je to podle nejakyho lecitele ci jineho samana a tem preventivne neduveruju, takze to jednou nedoporucuju nalevat tvym nezletilcum a tobe jen se svolenim tve drahe zeny. Radsi si uvarte starou uterku s peprem, chutna to podobne. Mimochodem jsem videl i ovonene Lapacho pro fajnovky, to je horsi nez samotny. Zase fit a v Kristu Milan >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Jan 26 09:45:58 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA02307; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 09:45:58 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA02304 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 09:45:57 +0100 Received: from kanec.linux (kanec.plemdat.czn.cz [194.213.228.200]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA08954 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 09:45:49 +0100 (MET) Received: from milan (milan.plemdat.czn.cz [223.45.6.152]) by kanec.linux (8.8.5/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id KAA01078 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:41:38 GMT Message-ID: <00d601be4908$4afaf7c0$98062ddf@milan> From: "=?iso-8859-2?Q?Milan_=C8ervenka?=" To: Subject: Caj: (NE)DOBRA CAJOVNA Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 09:45:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ahoj sosalove "cajoveho alkoholu" (to je fakt dobry :-o) Tak sem (ne)rad ze se objevuji dalsi milcove co jsou nespokojeni se sluzbami DC. Aspon nejsem sam. Mam totiz delsi dobu pocit, ze ignorace zakazniku v DC roste. Ja nejlip znam taborskou DC. Tam to driv bylo docela v pohode, ale posledni dobou se dost pohorsila. Jsou tam novy cajnici ktery se ve predu povalujou s kamaradama misto toho, aby se starali o caj a hosty. Taky caje mi pripadaj sizenejsi, ale to asi tim ze sem si "zkazil" chut lepsimi sortami. Mozna je to tim ze DC zlidovela a taky patrne neunesla sve vysadni postaveni v republice. Pripoustim, ze to ale taky muze bejt selhani nekolika jednotlivcu co se spatne vyspali nebo sou pretazeny. Jednou nas malem v T. z DC vyhodil nas oblibeny cajnik "Dred", protoze jsme pry hluceli. Byli jsme tiseji nez holky z intru vedle nas, ale holt sme byli osklivejsi a dopustili jsme se taky nejaky kritiky personalu. S Dredem se do dneska zdravim a vsechno v pohode, jen se blbe vyspal, no. Prezit se da i to kdyz ti donesou jenom horkou vodu, nebo ti neprinesou japonskou smes a pak ti ji napocitaj, horsi je kdyz sou potom arogantni a nedokazou chybu uznat. Obcas sou i cajnici (cajovi pinglove, tovarysi, obsluha ci jak se jim rika) zhuleny, (ted se nebavim jen o DC) to se pak balim hned jak je vidim. Este tu mam zazitek kamarada kterej si v nejaky cajovne na jihu dal patrne wu-long a pri placeni zjistil ze si za kazdy zaliti uctovali dvacet korun navic k cene caje. To je fakt smutny. Ted jeste recept na "Libanonskou pitu" jak ji nabizej v DC. Recept sem neukrad, je vysledkem pokusu. Koupime pitu v supermarketu, zaroven koupime vypeckovane olivy a olivovy olej a pozor ... koreni na pizzu od firmy Emarko. Nejlepe doma pitu rozkrojime na kapsu, potreme ve vnitr olejem, vlozime olivy nakrajene na platky, nasypeme koreni a soupnem do mikrovlnky. Obloha podle pocasi. Preji DC co nejmin uletu v roce 1999. Ostatnim nos neucpany rymou k vychutnani tech nejjemnejsich vuni. Jo pratele, pozor, nasel jsem u kamaradky gruzinsky ---zeleny--- caj z roku 1973 obal skenuju a na pozadani zaslu. Do konference poslu jenom preklad. Tak ted si zaleju gunpowder caj v Kristu Milan >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Jan 26 10:08:24 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA02390; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:08:24 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA02387 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:08:24 +0100 Received: from zp999a.zivpo.cz (ms.zivpo.cz [195.146.106.228]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA31295 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:08:23 +0100 (MET) Received: by ms.zivpo.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:08:23 +0100 Message-ID: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A39011970B3@PUEX1C1> From: Toman Lukáš To: "'caj@dione.zcu.cz'" Subject: Caj: RE: (NE)DOBRA CAJOVNA Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:08:21 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > DC. Aspon nejsem sam. Mam totiz delsi dobu pocit, ze ignorace > zakazniku v DC roste. Zalezi nejspis na tom, jak v ktere cajovne. V DC v Pardubicich sice opustili "prijemny prozitek" a uklony, ale presto se k zakaznikum chovaji navysost korektne. Nejspis to bude tim, ze obsluhu tam stale dela "stara garda", ktera tam uz byla, kdyz jsem tam byl v 1994 poprve. > Este tu mam zazitek kamarada kterej si v nejaky cajovne na jihu dal patrne > wu-long a pri placeni zjistil ze si za kazdy zaliti uctovali > dvacet korun navic k cene caje. To je fakt smutny. Ano, to je skutecne blbe. To je podobne, jako na Borsove, kdy dali 1 plechovou asi 1,5 litrovou konvici hnusnyho caje a chteli za to, jako bychom si kazdej davali 1 konvicku... > Jo pratele, pozor, nasel jsem u kamaradky gruzinsky ---zeleny--- caj z roku > 1973 obal skenuju a na pozadani zaslu. Do konference poslu jenom preklad. > Tak ted si zaleju gunpowder Mel bych zajem. Galenius >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Jan 26 11:43:49 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA02712; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 11:43:49 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA02709 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 11:43:48 +0100 Received: from kiv.zcu.cz (ur404p01-rek.rek.zcu.cz [147.228.71.108]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA13630; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 11:43:47 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <36AD9C61.AFFFDD24@kiv.zcu.cz> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 11:43:46 +0100 From: Pavel Baxa Organization: ZCU Plzen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: cs,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Kniha o caji (Book of Tea) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Krasny den a dobry caj! Trosku jsem zapatral a nasel jsem kompletni text tehle knihy v elektronicke podobe (anglicky). Na pozadani zaslu, pripadne pridam na Web, pristupne to bude z adresy http://yoyo.zcu.cz/~baxa/caj_liter.html nekdy behem dvou dnu. Mimochodem - co je nakladatelstvi CADO? Jeste jsem o nem neslysel. Pavel B. Ivo Jancik wrote: > > Zdravim k caji. > > Zprava, ktera se tu jeste nevyskytla: > V unoru vydava nakladatelstvi Brody > Knihu o caji japonskeho autora Kakuzo > Okakury. Ma byt distribuovana siti Dobrych > cajoven. > > Knihu prekladala pani Dita Horakova. Osobne se > mi uvedeny preklad jevi stastnejsi, nez ten, ktery > siri nakladatelstvi CADO (na jmeno autora si ted > nevzpomenu). > > Neco najdete na http://www.brody.cz/novinky.htm. > V Lidovych novinach vysel clanek s uryvkem z knihy, > bylo to 14. ledna t. r. > > Ivos. >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Jan 26 12:03:51 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA02782; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 12:03:51 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA02779 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 12:03:51 +0100 Received: from ns.felk.cvut.cz (ns.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.9]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA14453 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 12:03:50 +0100 (MET) Received: from hwlab.felk.cvut.cz (hwlab.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.90]) by ns.felk.cvut.cz (8.9.2/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA11525 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 12:03:50 +0100 (MET) Received: from HWLAB/SpoolDir by hwlab.felk.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 26 Jan 99 12:01:12 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by HWLAB (Mercury 1.31); 26 Jan 99 12:00:54 +0100 From: "Andrle Jakub" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 12:00:50 MET-1MEST Subject: Re: Caj: Kniha o caji (Book of Tea) X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.40 Message-ID: <62EC3843358@hwlab.felk.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz dekuji ti, ze ten text zvrejnis, ale myslim, ze by slo i to te konference tu adresu dat. jinak ale dik za snahu, mejte se fajn a soustu dobreho caje preje --------------------------------- Andrle Jakub - student CVUT FEL - VT xandrle1@fel.cvut.cz --------------------------------- >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Jan 26 12:24:52 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA02851; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 12:24:52 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA02848 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 12:24:51 +0100 Received: from kiv.zcu.cz (ur404p01-rek.rek.zcu.cz [147.228.71.108]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA15451 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 12:24:51 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <36ADA5FF.E2DEB89A@kiv.zcu.cz> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 12:24:47 +0100 From: Pavel Baxa Organization: ZCU Plzen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: cs,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Kniha o caji (Book of Tea) References: <62EC3843358@hwlab.felk.cvut.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Andrle Jakub wrote: > > dekuji ti, ze ten text zvrejnis, ale myslim, ze by slo i to te > konference tu adresu dat. Jestli myslis adresu, odkud jsem to stahnul, tady je: http://promo.net/pg/_authors/okakura_kakuzo_.html#thebookoftea Omlouvam se, ze jsem to nenapsal hned. Je to stranka Projektu Gutenberg, kde je spousta starych knih v elektronicke podobe. Pavel B. >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Jan 26 13:34:48 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA03212; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:34:48 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA03209 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:34:47 +0100 Received: from kanec.linux (kanec.plemdat.czn.cz [194.213.228.200]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA17860 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:34:39 +0100 (MET) Received: from milan (milan.plemdat.czn.cz [223.45.6.152]) by kanec.linux (8.8.5/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id OAA02247 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 14:30:29 GMT Message-ID: <00ef01be4928$42d94f90$98062ddf@milan> From: "=?iso-8859-2?Q?Milan_=C8ervenka?=" To: Subject: Caj: saskovi Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:34:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Mily sasku, nabizim ti moznost posledni zpovedi kdyby te kralovna Pavla chtela utopit v Pu-erhu, no mozna te utopi v Ptacim jazycku nebo te s nim ulize k smrti. Mozna se primluvim abys byl omilostnen a podroben nizsimu trestu treba hodine lechtani paimutanovymi tipsy. Krestanskou pomoc ti nabizi v Kristu Milan >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Jan 26 15:56:22 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA03551; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 15:56:22 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA03548 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 15:56:21 +0100 Received: from smtp.kolej.mff.cuni.cz (smtp.kolej.mff.cuni.cz [195.113.25.225]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA23065 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 15:56:20 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.kolej.mff.cuni.cz (mail.kolej.mff.cuni.cz [195.113.25.223]) by smtp.kolej.mff.cuni.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.0) with ESMTP id PAA20439 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 15:56:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from darkside (darkside.kolej.mff.cuni.cz [195.113.25.86]) by mail.kolej.mff.cuni.cz (8.9.1/8.8.3) with SMTP id PAA23406 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 15:54:56 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <000501be493c$065aec40$561971c3@darkside> From: "=?iso-8859-2?Q?Michal_Pt=E1k?=" To: "=?iso-8859-2?B?yGFqb3b9IGT9Y2jhbmVr?=" Subject: Caj: Tajny hrich 007 Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 15:56:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Nazdar lidi, pred casem jsem se zminoval o skotskych cajovych rohliccich (Scones). Recept jsem opsal z knihy Slavne mlsne huby a jejich recepty a umistil na svou stranku http://www.ms.mff.cuni.cz/~mpta7488/inf_zaji.htm Odepisoval jsem Lucce Bednarikove, ale mail se mi vratil. No treba ten recept bude zajimat jeste nekoho. Tak se mejte fajn. Michal Ptak mpta7488@kolej.mff.cuni.cz >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Tue Jan 26 21:39:30 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA04264; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 21:39:30 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA04261 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 21:39:29 +0100 Received: from artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz (jazyk@artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz [195.113.31.125]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA30760 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 21:39:28 +0100 (MET) Received: (from jazyk@localhost) by artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA28525 for caj@dione.zcu.cz; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 21:39:29 +0100 Message-ID: <19990126213929.A28441@artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 21:39:29 +0100 From: Karel Mokry To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Yixing - konvicka Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93i Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ahoj, tak jsem si po dlouhem vahani (jakou konvicku) poridil krasnou, mensi Yixing (tmeve hneda s listem a plodem Ginga ve svetlejsi barve). Je urcite prava (snad) a nebrynda (urcite). Jen jsem se chtel zeptat, jak ji spravne 'zajet' - pokud jsem dobre pochopil, do hlinenych konvicek by se mel udelat silny (jak?) nalev a nechat ho tam dostatecne dlouho (jak?). Dalsi caje uz jsou dobre, nebo je lepsi postup zopakovat? Ma vliv, jaky caj udelam? (myslim kvalitu ne rozdil zeleny x cerny) Diky, Jazyk PS: tim jak? nemyslim presne doby, teploty ... ale asi tak to, cim bt se mel clovek ridit. Prece jen takove veci si clovek nekupuje kazdy den. (na to bych ani nemel) -- jazyk@artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Karel.Mokry@usa.net >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 27 00:39:55 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA04552; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 00:39:55 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA04549 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 00:39:54 +0100 Received: from hermes.iol.cz ([194.228.2.40]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA00526 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 00:39:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from my-pul-n ([194.228.128.142]) by hermes.iol.cz (Post.Office MTA v3.5.2 release 221 ID# 631-58653U30000L30000S0V35) with ESMTP id cz for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 00:39:21 +0100 From: "janvacek" To: "=?ISO-8859-2?Q?=C8ajov=E1_konference?=" Subject: Caj: O kralovnach Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 23:47:37 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19990126233921.AAA24659@hermes.iol.cz@my-pul-n> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Kdyz lehko je v hlave a clovek by lital, lec na zemi pevne stat musi, je dobro vyhledat setkani s kralovnou. Nejradeji mam Zeleznou bohyni. Ale i jine dokazi patricne uzemnit. PS: Lechtani bych bral, jelikoz lochtiv nejsem. Jinak vsak jsem v ocich Cirkve svate kacir, tak nevim jak s tou pomoci. >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 27 09:17:25 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA05899; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 09:17:25 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA05896 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 09:17:23 +0100 Received: from gate.hob.cz ([194.108.46.250]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA07384 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 09:17:19 +0100 (MET) Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by gate.hob.cz (8.8.2/8.8.2) id JAA13331 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 09:17:12 +0100 Received: from primus.hob.cz(172.21.1.16) by gate.hob.cz via smap (V2.1) id xma013328; Wed, 27 Jan 99 09:16:51 +0100 Received: by primus.hob.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 09:19:53 +0100 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?H=E1jek_Ctirad?= To: "'caj@dione.zcu.cz'" Subject: Caj: Vsechny caje Ciny Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 09:19:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Jiz pred Vanoci se tu objevila info, ze vysla kniha "Vsechny caje Ciny". Bohuzel v Plzni stale neni k sehnani a do Prahy nemam cestu. Prosim Vas, mohl by stastny majitel teto knihy napsat do konference adresu vydavatele?, treba by sla objednat. Pokud jste nekdo z Plzne a okoli a vite, kde je kniha v prodeji, budu rad, kdyz mi napisete. Diky Ctirad >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 27 10:31:47 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA06155; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:31:47 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA06152 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:31:46 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA10184 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:31:45 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA04219 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:31:48 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 27 Jan 99 10:31:45 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 27 Jan 99 10:31:42 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:31:34 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: sem tu zase X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <7260CC0334@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Hele mezi nama, ja to taky opsal z etikety, a vsechno beru s rezervou, > myslim ze je to podle nejakyho lecitele ci jineho samana a tem preventivne > neduveruju, takze to jednou nedoporucuju nalevat tvym nezletilcum a tobe jen > se svolenim tve drahe zeny. Radsi si uvarte starou uterku s peprem, chutna > to podobne. Mimochodem jsem videl i ovonene Lapacho pro fajnovky, to je > horsi nez samotny. > Zase fit a v Kristu Milan No, ono neni zase tak spatne ... i kdyz znova uz ho asi kupovat nebudu. Mne jen zaujal ten rozpor. Poprve jsem to s louhovanim pretahl (delal jsem dle etikety) a malem mi to odsroubovalo hlavu z krku. Ale pil jsem uz horsi i lepsi veci. Hodne zdravi Pavel Lahv. Z.d. mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 27 10:35:14 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA06172; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:35:14 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA06169 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:35:13 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA10312 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:35:13 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA04482 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:35:16 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 27 Jan 99 10:35:13 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 27 Jan 99 10:35:10 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:35:04 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: RE: (NE)DOBRA CAJOVNA X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <726F9A6CFA@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Zalezi nejspis na tom, jak v ktere cajovne. V DC v Pardubicich sice opustili > "prijemny prozitek" a uklony, ale presto se k zakaznikum chovaji navysost > korektne. Nejspis to bude tim, ze obsluhu tam stale dela "stara garda", > ktera tam uz byla, kdyz jsem tam byl v 1994 poprve. No, mozna je to jen drb, ale pardubicka cajovna pry je DC jen napul. Majitel totiz cilene vystoupil ze Spolku milcu caje ... ale mam to z druhe ruky. A je pravda, ze bych pokles kvality DC nerad spojoval se Spolkem milcu caje. Pavel L.Z.d. mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 27 10:46:16 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA06215; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:46:16 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA06211 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:46:15 +0100 Received: from zp999a.zivpo.cz (ms.zivpo.cz [195.146.106.228]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA10874 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:46:14 +0100 (MET) Received: by ms.zivpo.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:46:11 +0100 Message-ID: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A39011970C3@PUEX1C1> From: Toman Lukás To: "'caj@dione.zcu.cz'" Subject: RE: Caj: RE: (NE)DOBRA CAJOVNA Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:45:54 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > Zalezi nejspis na tom, jak v ktere cajovne. V DC v > Pardubicich sice opustili > > "prijemny prozitek" a uklony, ale presto se k zakaznikum > chovaji navysost > > korektne. Nejspis to bude tim, ze obsluhu tam stale dela > "stara garda", > > ktera tam uz byla, kdyz jsem tam byl v 1994 poprve. > > No, mozna je to jen drb, ale pardubicka cajovna pry je DC > jen napul. > Majitel totiz cilene vystoupil ze Spolku milcu caje ... ale > mam to z druhe > ruky. A je pravda, ze bych pokles kvality DC nerad spojoval > se Spolkem > milcu caje. Hm... Pokud vystoupil kvuli poklesu kvality, pak to ale rozhodne nebylo na skodu a dobre udelal... Galenius >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 27 10:47:54 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA06232; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:47:54 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA06229 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:47:53 +0100 Received: from kpy01 (root@kpy01.kralupy.cz [194.212.215.7]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA10938 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:47:49 +0100 (MET) Received: from belkam.kralupy.cz ([194.212.215.50]) by kpy01 with smtp id m105Seu-0001f1C (Debian Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #2); Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:57:20 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Message-ID: <000701be49d9$c0692640$32d7d4c2@belkam.kralupy.cz> From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Miroslav_B=EClka?=" To: Subject: Caj: Re: Yixing - konvicka Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:45:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Karel Mokry pise: >tak jsem si po dlouhem vahani (jakou konvicku) poridil krasnou, mensi >Yixing (tmeve hneda s listem a plodem Ginga ve svetlejsi barve). Je urcite >prava (snad) a nebrynda (urcite). zajimalo by me, kde jsi tu konvicku koupil, take se chystam si nejakou poridit, ale zatim jsem se jeste poradne nikde nekoukal. pripadne jestli nekdo nevi o dalsich mistech kde by se daly sehnat, jsem z Kralup a tak to do Prahy nemam daleko. co se ostatnich veci tyce, tak ty nevim, ale jsem taktez zvedav na odpovedi. caj Andrle Jakub xandrle1@hwlab.felk.cvut.cz >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 27 10:55:49 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA06298; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:55:49 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA06295 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:55:48 +0100 Received: from kpy01 (root@kpy01.kralupy.cz [194.212.215.7]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA11288 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:55:47 +0100 (MET) Received: from belkam.kralupy.cz ([194.212.215.50]) by kpy01 with smtp id m105Smf-0001f1C (Debian Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #2); Wed, 27 Jan 1999 11:05:21 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Message-ID: <000d01be49da$df52db40$32d7d4c2@belkam.kralupy.cz> From: "=?iso-8859-2?Q?Miroslav_B=EClka?=" To: Subject: Caj: Re: Vsechny caje Ciny Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:52:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Knizku Všechny čaje Číny vydala firma Amana ve spolupráci s nakladatelstvím Dharmagaia. firmu Amana najdes na www.caj.cz plus: Sídlíme v Záhořanského ulici č.6 na Novém Městě v Praze 2, tel./fax.: 02/296286, tel.: 02/90008793, tel: 0603/544749, e-mail: info@caj.cz. o tom nakladatelstvi nic nevim, ale ja osobne jsem knihu koupil v cajovne U ZLATÉHO KOHOUTA v Michalské ulici na Starém Městě caj Andrle Jakub xandrle1@hwlab.felk.cvut.cz >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 27 12:30:10 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA06749; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:30:10 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA06746 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:30:09 +0100 Received: from ns.felk.cvut.cz (ns.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.9]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA14445 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:30:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from sun (sun.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.32]) by ns.felk.cvut.cz (8.9.2/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA36316 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:30:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from sun45.felk.cvut.cz by sun (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22160; Wed, 27 Jan 99 12:30:07 +0100 Received: by sun45.felk.cvut.cz (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10512; Wed, 27 Jan 99 12:30:07 +0100 Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:30:06 +0100 (MET) From: Tregner Vaclav student 6_98_99 k336 X-Sender: xtregner@sun45 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Re: Yixing - konvicka In-Reply-To: <000701be49d9$c0692640$32d7d4c2@belkam.kralupy.cz> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Jak uz jsem psal drive, docela slusny vyber maji v prodejne f. Tandoori (tak nak) v Lublanske ulici blizko I.P. Pavlova Vasek On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Miroslav_B=EClka?= wrote: > Karel Mokry pise: > > >tak jsem si po dlouhem vahani (jakou konvicku) poridil krasnou, mensi > >Yixing (tmeve hneda s listem a plodem Ginga ve svetlejsi barve). Je urcite > >prava (snad) a nebrynda (urcite). > > zajimalo by me, kde jsi tu konvicku koupil, take se chystam si nejakou > poridit, > ale zatim jsem se jeste poradne nikde nekoukal. > pripadne jestli nekdo nevi o dalsich mistech kde by se daly sehnat, jsem z > Kralup a tak to do Prahy nemam daleko. > > co se ostatnich veci tyce, tak ty nevim, ale jsem taktez zvedav na odpovedi. > > caj > Andrle Jakub> xandrle1@hwlab.felk.cvut.cz > > >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 27 13:59:55 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA07058; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:59:55 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA07055 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:59:55 +0100 Received: from serverpce.czcom.cz (serverpce.czcom.cz [195.146.98.2]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA17361 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:59:54 +0100 (MET) Received: from pop3.stapro.cz ([195.146.104.82]) by serverpce.czcom.cz (Netscape Mail Server v1.1) with SMTP id AAA249 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 14:00:38 +0100 Received: from 192.168.10.237 ([192.168.10.237]) by pop3.stapro.cz (WinRoute 3.04a) with SMTP; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:57:45 +0100 From: "Milan Kropacek" Organization: Stapro s.r.o. To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 14:01:31 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Caj: Re: Yixing - konvicka References: <000701be49d9$c0692640$32d7d4c2@belkam.kralupy.cz> In-reply-to: Message-ID: <19990127130038435.AAA249@pop3.stapro.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Jak uz jsem psal drive, docela slusny vyber maji v prodejne f. Tandoori > (tak nak) v Lublanske ulici blizko I.P. Pavlova > Vasek Onehda jsem tam byl, maji nekolik souprav(>1500Kc) a jednotlive konvicky a salky v cihlove barve a odstinech hnedi. Ale bohuzel, zadna hneda konvicka nepasuje svym odstinem k nejakemu salku. Takze jsem si nevybral. A zadne jine nebudou. -- Milan Kropacek Stapro s.r.o. >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 27 19:46:06 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA08915; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 19:46:06 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA08912 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 19:46:05 +0100 Received: from kpy01 (root@kpy01.kralupy.cz [194.212.215.7]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA26299 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 19:46:05 +0100 (MET) Received: from belkam.kralupy.cz ([194.212.215.50]) by kpy01 with smtp id m105b40-0001f4C (Debian Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #2); Wed, 27 Jan 1999 19:55:48 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Message-ID: <000d01be4a24$ef5bc700$32d7d4c2@belkam.kralupy.cz> From: "Andrle Jakub" To: Subject: Caj: Re: Vsechny caje Ciny Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 19:43:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz jeste doplneni informaci o nakladateli: nakladatelem je: Dharmagaia uhelny trh 1, 110 00, Praha 1 tel.: 02/24 23 85 51 email: dharmagaia@post.cz distribuce v CR: MAŤA Lublaňská 34, Praha 2 tel. / fax: 02/29 19 25 email: mata@telminal.cz caj Andrle Jakub xandrle1@hwlab.felk.cvut.cz >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 27 23:42:21 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA09318; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 23:42:21 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA09315 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 23:42:20 +0100 Received: from conan.asysijd.cz (mailexim@server.asysijd.cz [195.75.66.161]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA29715 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 23:42:19 +0100 (MET) Received: from kol-dial2.asysijd.cz (asysijd.cz) [195.75.66.12] by conan.asysijd.cz with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1 (Debian)) id 105dfA-0005fG-00; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 23:42:21 +0100 Message-ID: <36AF8CD1.BBDC1668@asysijd.cz> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 23:01:53 +0100 From: Jan Bourek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: - Cajovy Dychanek - Subject: Caj: Caje z cajoven Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Bore da, zajimalo by me, odkud berou cajnici caj do svych cajoven. Urcite je v konferenci alespon 9 lidi, co cajovnu maji a radi mi odpovi. Mate nejake znamosti na Dalnem Vychode, ze vam caj vasi znami rovnou poslou, nebo berete od velkych firem jako je napr. Amana, Oxalis apod. Existuje hodne firem co rikaji ze jsou primi dovozci caje z Ciny, Indie a tak, ale jak je to opravdu? Jak dlouho caj putuje? Kudy? Kam? ahoj *JB*   >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 27 23:42:18 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA09313; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 23:42:18 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA09310 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 23:42:18 +0100 Received: from conan.asysijd.cz (mailexim@server.asysijd.cz [195.75.66.161]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA29670 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 23:42:17 +0100 (MET) Received: from kol-dial2.asysijd.cz (asysijd.cz) [195.75.66.12] by conan.asysijd.cz with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1 (Debian)) id 105df8-0005fD-00; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 23:42:18 +0100 Message-ID: <36AF8B7B.2B1D2EF6@asysijd.cz> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 22:56:11 +0100 From: Jan Bourek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: - Cajovy Dychanek - Subject: Caj: Kasmir Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Bore da, dostal jsem k vanocum od Jeziska (pan Vaclav Cikan) par caju a mezi nimi i smes Kasmir. Obsahuje vse mozne i nemozne, dokonce i kousky slupek pomerace atd. Kdyz jsem si ji udelal, byla smes takova jako ze by potrebovala nejak ochutit nebo osladit (alespon jsem mel takovy pocit), jinak jakasi vyrazna chut zde byla, ale takle samotna mi smes moc nejela. Treba je to jen tim, ze mi proste nechutna. Ale ja si myslim, ze musi existovat nejaky recept nebo navod jak Kasmir udelat pekne. Nevite nekdo nahodou? Ahoj *JB* >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 27 23:42:23 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA09323; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 23:42:23 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA09320 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 23:42:22 +0100 Received: from conan.asysijd.cz (mailexim@server.asysijd.cz [195.75.66.161]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA29711 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 23:42:21 +0100 (MET) Received: from kol-dial2.asysijd.cz (asysijd.cz) [195.75.66.12] by conan.asysijd.cz with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1 (Debian)) id 105dfC-0005fJ-00; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 23:42:23 +0100 Message-ID: <36AF91CD.F15AAB6B@asysijd.cz> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 23:23:10 +0100 From: Jan Bourek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: - Cajovy Dychanek - Subject: Caj: Jazyk indicky Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-user-defined Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz namasté! namaskár! tento prispevek se caje tyka jen malinko, ale urcite, az budete v Indii popijet svuj oblibeny Darjeeling, si na me radi vzpomenete take se chci omluvit za diakritiku, ale v tomto @ je nutna takze: muj velmi dobry a vychytraly kamarad mi dal nedavno (do noveho roku) knizecku: Vladimir Miltner: Nasim v Indii, Pakistanu a Bangladesi, se slovy: kdyz ted tak pijes caje tady neco mas ... Je to konverzacni prirucka deseti jihoasijskych jazyku, a tady jsem vam neco vybral: Fraze: Pojdte, dame si caj hind^Útina:          aijé, ham čáj pijéM urd^Útina:            ta^Úríf láié, čáj nó^Ú farmáéMgé bengál^Útina:       e^Úo, amra ča khai paňd^Ţáb^Útina:    áó čalijé, čá píváMgé maráth^Útina:       calá, čahá ghéu já gud^Ţarát^Útina:    čaló, ápDé čá píjé sindh^Útina:         aččó, hallí čáMhi píúM urij^Útina:            aso, Tikie ča khaiba ásám^Útina:         ahok, ami sah khaoMgoi sanskrt:             ágamjatám, čahápánam kurmah Tak co, libi. Jeste pro poradek dodam, ze to jsou primo vyslovnosti. Vsimli jste si asamstiny, to budeme urcite nekdy potrebovat. Az se vsichni (cela konference) za 30 let sejdeme a vyrazime si na vychod popijet caj tak uz vime prvni frazi (a pro nas snad i nejdulezitejsi). Odpoved na ni je: ANO (d^Ţí háM, d^Ţí háM, agge haM, háM, hó, háM, háM, hoM, hoj, évam) doufam, ze vas tento @ potesil a pokud nekdo chce znat i dalsi fraze staci se ozvat *JB* >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Wed Jan 27 23:42:17 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA09308; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 23:42:17 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA09305 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 23:42:16 +0100 Received: from conan.asysijd.cz (mailexim@server.asysijd.cz [195.75.66.161]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA29530 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 23:42:15 +0100 (MET) Received: from kol-dial2.asysijd.cz (asysijd.cz) [195.75.66.12] by conan.asysijd.cz with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1 (Debian)) id 105df5-0005fA-00; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 23:42:16 +0100 Message-ID: <36AF8A5B.2A2409AA@asysijd.cz> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 22:51:23 +0100 From: Jan Bourek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: - Cajovy Dychanek - Subject: Caj: Teplota vody Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Bore da cajomilci, nedavno jsem tu cetl nejaky prispevek a stalo tam (nebo ty litery na jakoby papire lezi?), ze voda na caj se ma vzdy nechat chvilku varit a az pote nechat zchladit na potrebnou teplotu. To mne privadi k otazce jaky je rozdil mezi tim, kdyz vodu pouze dostanu k potrebne teplote a caj zaliji, nebo ji necham povarit a pak cekam az zchladne. Opravdu me to posledni dobou stale vrta hlavou a dnes jsem dokonce delal Bilou opicku zpusobem druhym. Predtim jsem vzdy koncil s varem pri pozadovane teplote. Ovsem rozdil jsem zadny nepocitil. Varem se mozna odstrani nejake latky, ale vite ze se rika, ze voda se nema dlouho varit (aby bublala a prskala), aby nektere latky prave zustaly. Takze v tom vidim celkem nesrovnalost. A co vy? PS.: To je ale zajimave puntickarsky problem *JB* >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Jan 28 09:12:56 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA10384; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 09:12:56 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA10381 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 09:12:54 +0100 Received: from ns.jes.cz (IDENT:root@[194.228.41.66]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA02797 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 09:12:52 +0100 (MET) Received: from default (dial-up002.jes.cz. [194.228.41.125]) by ns.jes.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA19589 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 09:12:44 +0100 Message-ID: <003001be4a95$e5214d20$7d29e4c2@default> From: "Filgorn" To: Subject: Caj: Re: Teplota vody Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 09:12:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Možná že jde o to, že se voda zbaví plynů, zvláště kyslíku a ozonu. Třeba by mohly mít nějaký vliv na kvalitu výsledného čaje - nevím. Jinak, platí to samozřejmě jen u hladiny moře, protože v nižším tlaku (na horách, např.) voda samozřejmě vře při mnohem nižší teplotě. Z vlastní zkušenosti vím, že v Tibetu kolem 5 000 mnm do vřící vody můžeš šáhnout, a neopařit se. Proto tam taky neuděláš dobrý čaj (myslím evropský, ne jejich místní, ten je nedobrý až až :-))). Prostě jej nespaříš. Filgorn -----Původní zpráva----- Od: Jan Bourek Komu: - Cajovy Dychanek - Datum: 27. ledna 1999 23:52 Předmět: Caj: Teplota vody >Bore da cajomilci, >nedavno jsem tu cetl nejaky prispevek a stalo tam (nebo ty litery na >jakoby papire lezi?), ze voda na caj se ma vzdy nechat chvilku varit a >az pote nechat zchladit na potrebnou teplotu. To mne privadi k otazce >jaky je rozdil mezi tim, kdyz vodu pouze dostanu k potrebne teplote a >caj zaliji, nebo ji necham povarit a pak cekam az zchladne. Opravdu me >to posledni dobou stale vrta hlavou a dnes jsem dokonce delal Bilou >opicku zpusobem druhym. Predtim jsem vzdy koncil s varem pri pozadovane >teplote. Ovsem rozdil jsem zadny nepocitil. >Varem se mozna odstrani nejake latky, ale vite ze se rika, ze voda se >nema dlouho varit (aby bublala a prskala), aby nektere latky prave >zustaly. Takze v tom vidim celkem nesrovnalost. >A co vy? > >PS.: To je ale zajimave puntickarsky problem > >*JB* > > > >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Jan 28 09:14:58 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA10397; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 09:14:58 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA10394 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 09:14:57 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA02800 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 09:14:57 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20207 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 09:15:00 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 28 Jan 99 09:14:56 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 28 Jan 99 09:14:43 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 09:14:39 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Teplota vody X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Bore da cajomilci, > nedavno jsem tu cetl nejaky prispevek a stalo tam (nebo ty litery na > jakoby papire lezi?), ze voda na caj se ma vzdy nechat chvilku varit a > az pote nechat zchladit na potrebnou teplotu. To mne privadi k otazce > jaky je rozdil mezi tim, kdyz vodu pouze dostanu k potrebne teplote a > caj zaliji, nebo ji necham povarit a pak cekam az zchladne. Opravdu me > to posledni dobou stale vrta hlavou a dnes jsem dokonce delal Bilou > opicku zpusobem druhym. Predtim jsem vzdy koncil s varem pri pozadovane > teplote. Ovsem rozdil jsem zadny nepocitil. > Varem se mozna odstrani nejake latky, ale vite ze se rika, ze voda se > nema dlouho varit (aby bublala a prskala), aby nektere latky prave > zustaly. Takze v tom vidim celkem nesrovnalost. Ja su chlap z Prahy a tak jen vim, ze vodu vodovodni radeji pred pouzitim povarim. Ale nejaky vyznam to urcite mit bude, uz tu o tom bezela rec zacatkem skolniho roku. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Jan 28 12:34:25 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA11458; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:34:25 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA11454 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:34:23 +0100 Received: from eryx1.zcu.cz (eryx1.zcu.cz [147.228.52.12]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA08896 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:34:22 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (jurista@localhost) by eryx1.zcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA15431 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:34:22 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: eryx1.zcu.cz: jurista owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:34:22 +0100 (MET) From: Demeter Jurista X-Sender: jurista@eryx1.zcu.cz To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Yixing - konvicka In-Reply-To: <19990126213929.A28441@artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ahoj vsem > > Jen jsem se chtel zeptat, jak ji spravne 'zajet' - pokud jsem dobre pochopil, > do hlinenych konvicek by se mel udelat silny (jak?) nalev a nechat ho tam > dostatecne dlouho (jak?). Tak tohle prisom berte jen jako osobni zkusenost a radu: Ja jsem do konvicky nejdrive udelal trikrat po sobe English Breakfast a vzdy jsem ho tam nechal jeden den stat, aby se odstranila zemita chut. Ono to chutna tak nejak jako kdyz si udelate caj do kvetinace... Potom jsem konvicku zjizdel Yunnanem a Pu Erem, preceje nom se tam zemita chut ztrati. Ted uz je dost zajeta na vsechny cerne caje. Chce to ochutnat a popr. nechat jeste jednou odlezet EB. Mita DJ >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Jan 28 13:40:03 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA11737; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:40:03 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA11731 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:40:02 +0100 Received: from ara.zf.jcu.cz (root@ara.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA10348 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:29:20 +0100 (MET) Received: from zf.jcu.cz (hydra.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.8]) by ara.zf.jcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA05703 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:29:20 +0100 Message-ID: <36B0582B.16E0B93F@zf.jcu.cz> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:29:31 +0100 From: Libor Matousek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Vsechny caje Ciny References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Hájek Ctirad wrote: > Jiz pred Vanoci se tu objevila info, ze vysla kniha "Vsechny caje Ciny". > Bohuzel v Plzni stale neni k sehnani a do Prahy nemam cestu. > > Prosim Vas, mohl by stastny majitel teto knihy napsat do konference adresu > vydavatele?, treba by sla objednat. > > Pokud jste nekdo z Plzne a okoli a vite, kde je kniha v prodeji, budu rad, > kdyz mi napisete. > > Diky Ctirad --- rad Ti, Ctirade pomuzu, jestli jeste potrebujes. U nas v Budejicich se sehnat da (uz ji take vlastnim) a kdyz se domluvime, mohl bych Ti ji privest do Plzne cestou z Budejic. Jeste se ozvi, co a jak Maty - anikralanikralovnaanisasekaniprinceznaneburzoust,spoluzakladatel >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Jan 28 13:40:03 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA11738; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:40:03 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA11733 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:40:02 +0100 Received: from ara.zf.jcu.cz (root@ara.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA10193 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:26:02 +0100 (MET) Received: from zf.jcu.cz (hydra.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.8]) by ara.zf.jcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA05574 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:26:01 +0100 Message-ID: <36B05764.A14CFC52@zf.jcu.cz> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:26:12 +0100 From: Libor Matousek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Yixing - konvicka References: <19990126213929.A28441@artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Karel Mokry wrote: > tak jsem si po dlouhem vahani (jakou konvicku) poridil krasnou, mensi Yixing > (tmeve hneda s listem a plodem Ginga ve svetlejsi barve). Je urcite prava > (snad) a nebrynda (urcite). --- gratuluju, urcite Ti bude dlouha leta dobre slouzit... > Jen jsem se chtel zeptat, jak ji spravne 'zajet' - pokud jsem dobre pochopil, > do hlinenych konvicek by se mel udelat silny (jak?) nalev a nechat ho tam > dostatecne dlouho (jak?). --- mam 3 Yixing (Ising) konvicky a ani jednu jsem netrapil silnym nalevem... Nenechaval jsem tam listky 3 dny a 3 noci. Po nekolika (u posledni, nejnovejsi konvicky to byly cca 4 zelene caje) kvalitnich cajich, jejichz priprave samozrejme predchazi dukladne vyplachnuti (ve vsech 3 konvickach byly "nahradni dily" = prach a kousky necistot po dobrusovani). Hlinena chut je sice citit, ne vsak neprirozene nebo neprijemne. > Dalsi caje uz jsou dobre, nebo je lepsi postup zopakovat? --- po nekolika cajich se konvicka "zacajuje". Pri zkouskovem obdobi (v mem pripade) byla konvicka porad plna nejakeho dobreho cajiku... > Ma vliv, jaky caj udelam? (myslim kvalitu ne rozdil zeleny x cerny) --- hodne velky, protoze Isingska keramika ma schopnost absorbovat kvalitu caje - vyplati se proto pripravovat v ni ty nejkvalitnejsi caje. > PS: tim jak? nemyslim presne doby, teploty ... ale asi tak to, cim bt se mel > clovek ridit. Prece jen takove veci si clovek nekupuje kazdy den. (na to > bych ani nemel) --- rid se hlavne svymi pocity, jak zde bylo receno (viz Bent) a nic nezkazis. Rekl bych: "poslouchej hlas caje, vody a konvicky". Hodne dobrych caju do Vasich konvicek preje Libor "Maty" Matousek P.S. Uz se mi styskalo - to vite, porad same zkousky a uceni... nemel jsem cas reagovat, jen jsem cetl (kdyz jsem byl v C.B.) a nestacil se nekdy divit, jak bylo par mailu divokych (ne-li prudkych). Jesteze to Pavel B. utnul ! Vitam take novou postavu - cchau Sasku. >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Jan 28 13:40:25 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA11759; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:40:25 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA11756 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:40:25 +0100 Received: from dahlia.mendelu.cz (dahlia.mendelu.cz [195.178.72.10]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA10503 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:40:24 +0100 (MET) Received: from dahlia.mendelu.cz (dahlia.mendelu.cz [195.178.72.10]) by dahlia.mendelu.cz (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id NAA25810 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:37:08 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:37:08 +0100 (MET) From: Ivo Jancik To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Re: Kniha o caji (Book of Tea) In-Reply-To: <36AD9C61.AFFFDD24@kiv.zcu.cz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Pavel pise: > Mimochodem - co je nakladatelstvi CADO? Jeste jsem o nem neslysel. Ja odpovidam: I zde na konferenci jiz probehla zprava, ze CADO vydava znovu preklad Book of Tea. Nyni jako samostatne vydani jeste s uryvkem z neceho jineho o ctyrech principech canoju. Puvodne to vyslo v prvnim dile soubornych praci o Zenu. CADO se zameruje na vychodni a obecne duchovni literaturu. Zminena kniha (Zen I) pripomina spise samyzdat. Graficka uprava neni valna, stejne jako Internetove stranky CADO. Preklady jsou psane narychlo, z ruznych zdroju. Redaktori sami priznavaji, ze lepsi nekvalitni preklad hned, nez kvalitni nikdy. Vice na Internetu. Odkaz nemam. Ivos. ------------------------------ jancik@mendelu.cz http://dahlia.mendelu.cz/~jancik >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Jan 28 15:22:07 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA12050; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 15:22:07 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA12047 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 15:22:06 +0100 Received: from kanec.linux (kanec.plemdat.czn.cz [194.213.228.200]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA13324 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 15:22:02 +0100 (MET) Received: from milan (milan.plemdat.czn.cz [223.45.6.152]) by kanec.linux (8.8.5/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id PAA00986 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 15:21:42 GMT Message-ID: <001801be4ac9$8d8cf620$98062ddf@milan> From: "=?iso-8859-2?Q?Milan_=C8ervenka?=" To: Subject: Caj: studanka u lesa Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 15:21:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ahoj, Bente mas jiste pravdu v tom ze neni nad pramenitou vodu, ale i tady mohou bejt zaludnosti. Pamatu na vandr, kdy sme zakotvily ve Svycarsku na nejakym ostrohu a nikdo se nechtel obetovat, aby dosel do udoli pro vodu. Tak sem sel po hrebenu az sem narazil na studanecku prumeru petikoruny rafinovane skrytou v raseliniku. Po půl hodine jsem z jejiho okoli vydoloval asi litr nazloutle tekutiny. Hodili jsme do toho nemilosdne caj (snazil se drzet okraje, ale placli sme ho vetvickou pres tipsy), a po chvili jsme z toho meli cajik zvlastni, nikoliv odporne chuti, blizici se citronu. Dalsi pripad byla sirovodikova studanka asi o dvacet kilaku dal, ale sirovodik s varem zmizel a zbyla voda ponekud mdle destilovane chuti. v Kristu Milan >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Thu Jan 28 17:50:12 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA12391; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:50:12 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA12388 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:50:11 +0100 Received: from hermes.iol.cz ([194.228.2.40]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA11690 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:50:10 +0100 (MET) Received: from my-pul-n ([194.228.128.187]) by hermes.iol.cz (Post.Office MTA v3.5.2 release 221 ID# 631-58653U30000L30000S0V35) with ESMTP id cz for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:49:33 +0100 From: "janvacek" To: "=?ISO-8859-2?Q?=C8ajov=E1_konference?=" Subject: Caj: Konvicky a DC Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:30:10 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <19990128164933.AAC5008@hermes.iol.cz@my-pul-n> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Jak sasek blouma po kralovstvi prazskem zna tu a tam nejakou tu prodejnu. Pekne konvicky pozadovaneho typu se salky, chcete-li kalisky,jsou na prodej v jendnom obchudku kousek od Vltavske. Z metra jednu stanici tramvají smer Strosmayerak, pak otocit celem vzat a jit po leve strane zpet k metru. Asi sto az dveste metru je onen obchudek. Druhy dobry na kovicky tohoto druhu je prodejna - tusim Esoterie? - ve Vrsovicich. Kdyz jedete tramvaji z Miraku do Vrsovic, tak na krizovatce z Vrsovickou ulici, po prave strane. Presneji krizovatka Moskevske a Vrsovicke ulice. Majitel DC v Pardubicich - jinak skutecny cajmistr - skutecne ze spolku milcu vystoupil. Duvody byly jine nez pokles kvality sluzeb DC, ale to je jedno. Sasek doporucuje navstivit Pardubickou cajovnu, za tu cestu to stoji. Nepotkal v kralovstvi ceskem a moravskem lepsi. A jeste jeden napad. Nez neustale pomlouvat DC, radeji si udelat caj doma a nehudrovat. Pak muzete nadavat jen sobe za cajove neumetelstvi. Klani se Sasek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Jan 29 06:57:00 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA13626; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 06:57:00 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA13623 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 06:56:58 +0100 Received: from zp999a.zivpo.cz (ms.zivpo.cz [195.146.106.228]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA27025 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 06:56:57 +0100 (MET) Received: by ms.zivpo.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 06:56:57 +0100 Message-ID: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A39011970D0@PUEX1C1> From: Toman Lukáš To: "'caj@dione.zcu.cz'" Subject: Caj: RE: Konvicky a DC Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 06:56:40 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > jedno. Sasek doporucuje navstivit Pardubickou cajovnu, za tu cestu to > stoji. Nepotkal v kralovstvi ceskem a moravskem lepsi. Sasku, ty jsi muj clovek. Celou dobu tady hlasam, ze DC v Pardubicich je nejlepsi a az ted konecne nekdo toto hlasa taky. 8-)))) > A jeste jeden napad. Nez neustale pomlouvat DC, radeji si > udelat caj doma a > nehudrovat. Pak muzete nadavat jen sobe za cajove neumetelstvi. Tak ten si dela. Od ty doby, co jsem si poridil konvicku, si delam doma caj tak 2-3x tydne. Tento tyden jsem zkousel kokaichu. Mnjo, bud jsem ji udelal blbe, nebo mi skutecne nechutnala. Mnohem radsi mam senchu. Galenius >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Jan 29 09:00:07 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA13856; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 09:00:07 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA13853 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 09:00:05 +0100 Received: from serverpce.czcom.cz (serverpce.czcom.cz [195.146.98.2]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA28468 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 09:00:04 +0100 (MET) Received: from pop3.stapro.cz ([195.146.104.82]) by serverpce.czcom.cz (Netscape Mail Server v1.1) with SMTP id AAA241 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 09:00:16 +0100 Received: from 192.168.10.237 ([192.168.10.237]) by pop3.stapro.cz (WinRoute 3.04b) with SMTP; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 08:57:51 +0100 From: "Milan Kropacek" Organization: Stapro s.r.o. To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 08:58:39 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Subject: Re: Caj: Konvicky a DC In-reply-to: <19990128164933.AAC5008@hermes.iol.cz@my-pul-n> Message-ID: <19990129080014888.AAA241@pop3.stapro.cz> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-printable to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id JAA13854 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > From: "janvacek" > To: "Čajová konference" > Subject: Caj: Konvicky a DC > Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:30:10 +0100 > Reply-to: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Jak sasek blouma po kralovstvi prazskem zna tu a tam nejakou tu prodejnu. > Pekne konvicky pozadovaneho typu se salky, chcete-li kalisky,jsou na prodej > v jendnom obchudku kousek od Vltavske. Z metra jednu stanici tramvají smer > Strosmayerak, pak otocit celem vzat a jit po leve strane zpet k metru. Asi > sto az dveste metru je onen obchudek. Druhy dobry na kovicky tohoto druhu Tady mi chybi kontext--co jsou pozadovane konvicky, nebo konvicky tohoto druhu? Uniklo mi na ci mail je to reakce. > jedno. Sasek doporucuje navstivit Pardubickou cajovnu, za tu cestu to > stoji. Nepotkal v kralovstvi ceskem a moravskem lepsi. Za lepsi nez pardubickou, povazuji "Nasi Cajovnu" ve Znojme, ale mam to bohuzel trochu z ruky. -- Milan Kropacek Stapro s.r.o. >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Jan 29 09:38:39 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA13957; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 09:38:39 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA13954 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 09:38:38 +0100 Received: from zp999a.zivpo.cz (ms.zivpo.cz [195.146.106.228]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA29503 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 09:38:37 +0100 (MET) Received: by ms.zivpo.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 09:38:31 +0100 Message-ID: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A39011970D8@PUEX1C1> From: Toman Lukáš To: "'caj@dione.zcu.cz'" Subject: RE: Caj: Konvicky a DC Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 09:38:15 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > jedno. Sasek doporucuje navstivit Pardubickou cajovnu, za > tu cestu to > > stoji. Nepotkal v kralovstvi ceskem a moravskem lepsi. > > Za lepsi nez pardubickou, povazuji "Nasi Cajovnu" ve Znojme, ale mam > to bohuzel trochu z ruky. Jojo. To je prilis daleko. Ale mozna to jednou vyzkousim, pokud budu mit tim smerem cestu... Galenius >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Jan 29 10:02:11 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA14007; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 10:02:11 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA14004 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 10:02:11 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA31156 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 10:02:10 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA13864 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 10:02:13 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 29 Jan 99 10:02:09 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 29 Jan 99 10:01:57 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 10:01:51 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: DC X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <2871905289@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > A jeste jeden napad. Nez neustale pomlouvat DC, radeji si udelat caj doma a > nehudrovat. Pak muzete nadavat jen sobe za cajove neumetelstvi. Pravda svata, lec kdyz po meste musis blouditi a tu nahle domova sveho jsa vzdalen hrdlo sve potesiti, kam jinam nez do dobre cajovny mel by jsi jiti. Lec v Dobre cajovne obcas o usi a nervy by jsi mohl prijiti. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Jan 29 11:08:38 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA14373; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 11:08:38 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA14370 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 11:08:37 +0100 Received: from serverpce.czcom.cz (serverpce.czcom.cz [195.146.98.2]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA00847 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 11:08:36 +0100 (MET) Received: from pop3.stapro.cz ([195.146.104.82]) by serverpce.czcom.cz (Netscape Mail Server v1.1) with SMTP id AAC214 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 11:08:49 +0100 Received: from 192.168.10.237 ([192.168.10.237]) by pop3.stapro.cz (WinRoute 3.04b) with SMTP; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 11:06:00 +0100 From: "Milan Kropacek" Organization: Stapro s.r.o. To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 11:06:48 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Caj: Teplota vody In-reply-to: <36AF8A5B.2A2409AA@asysijd.cz> Message-ID: <19990129100459981.AAC214@pop3.stapro.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Bore da cajomilci, > nedavno jsem tu cetl nejaky prispevek a stalo tam (nebo ty litery na > jakoby papire lezi?), ze voda na caj se ma vzdy nechat chvilku varit a > az pote nechat zchladit na potrebnou teplotu. To mne privadi k otazce > jaky je rozdil mezi tim, kdyz vodu pouze dostanu k potrebne teplote a Na to jsem se zeptal jednoho kamose, ktery se drive zabyval chemii. Nevim, jestli popisovane deje maji nejaky vztah ke kvalite caje, nebo jestli je to v necem uplne jinem. Cituji: ------------ cut here ------------------ Je v tom rozdil. A dalsi rozdil je v tom, jak dlouho ji budes varit. V obycejny vode z vodovodu je za normalnich okolnosti rozpusteno neco oxidu uhlicityho (s vodou tvori kyselinu uhlicitou), chloru (s vodou tvori kyselinu chlornou), kysliku (s vodou tvori peroxidove vazby) a dusiku (ten nedela nic). Dale je tam nejakej uhicitan vapenatej. Ostatni obsazeny latky zustavaj beze zmen a tak je neuvadim. Varem se z vody vylouci dusik, protoze rozpustnost plynu je neprimo umerna teplote vody a vysrazi se uhlicitany (kotelni kamen). Dale se kyseliny rozlozi zpet na vodu a oxidy, ktere se z vody vyvari. Vsechny tyto deje vsak neprobehnou najednou. Naopak rozklad kyselin na vodu a plynne oxidy je proces pomalejsi - nekolik minut za staleho varu. Takze rozdil je znacny a bude zalezet na dobe varu a obsazenych latkach. Prevarena voda je take mene korozivni, protoze je z ni pryc kyslik, kterej s vodou dela peroxid. ------------ cut here ------------------ -- Milan Kropacek Stapro s.r.o. >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Jan 29 23:17:11 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA16495; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 23:17:11 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA16492 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 23:17:10 +0100 Received: from conan.asysijd.cz (mailexim@server.asysijd.cz [195.75.66.161]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA16165 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 23:17:09 +0100 (MET) Received: from kol-dial10.asysijd.cz (asysijd.cz) [195.75.66.20] by conan.asysijd.cz with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1 (Debian)) id 106MDn-0004eA-00; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 23:17:03 +0100 Message-ID: <36B1D1DE.55E97981@asysijd.cz> Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 16:21:02 +0100 From: Jan Bourek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: RE: Konvicky a DC References: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A39011970D0@PUEX1C1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > jedno. Sasek doporucuje navstivit Pardubickou cajovnu, za tu cestu to > > stoji. Nepotkal v kralovstvi ceskem a moravskem lepsi. > > Sasku, ty jsi muj clovek. Celou dobu tady hlasam, ze DC v Pardubicich > je nejlepsi a az ted konecne nekdo toto hlasa taky. 8-)))) No, no, no ja jsem ji preci taky totalne vychvaloval *JB* >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Fri Jan 29 23:17:10 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA16491; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 23:17:10 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA16487 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 23:17:07 +0100 Received: from conan.asysijd.cz (mailexim@server.asysijd.cz [195.75.66.161]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA16112 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 23:17:02 +0100 (MET) Received: from kol-dial10.asysijd.cz (asysijd.cz) [195.75.66.20] by conan.asysijd.cz with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1 (Debian)) id 106MDg-0004e7-00; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 23:16:56 +0100 Message-ID: <36B231E9.D0B92375@asysijd.cz> Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 23:10:50 +0100 From: Jan Bourek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: - Cajovy Dychanek - Subject: Caj: Krasny den Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Bore da, musim vam napsat, jaky jsem dnes prozil dokonaly den: rano jsem vynervovany odjel do Pardubic na zkousku z fyziky II., tu jsem ke svemu obrovskemu prekvapeni udelal za 2-. Pak jsem si doma v klidu udelal Bilou opicku, obtelefonoval kamarady a pochlubil se. Pak jsem sel na aikido, ktere bylo zvlaste zajimave a namahave. A po cviceni padu a technik jsem s pritelem sel do cajovny a abych se drzel japonskeho stylu, dal jsem si sve slavnostni a drahe (byl duvod slavit) Gyokuro. Atmosfera dokonala, lide v klidu no co si vic muzu prat. Ted sedim u PC a chvilku si posurfuji. Pro me to byl den s velkym D. Takovych vam preji v zivote co nejvice. Ahoj *JB* >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Sat Jan 30 19:37:41 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA18318; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 19:37:41 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA18315 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 19:37:39 +0100 Received: from conan.asysijd.cz (mailexim@server.asysijd.cz [195.75.66.161]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA24857 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 19:37:33 +0100 (MET) Received: from kol-dial16.asysijd.cz (asysijd.cz) [195.75.66.26] by conan.asysijd.cz with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1 (Debian)) id 106fGr-00066u-00; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 19:37:30 +0100 Message-ID: <36B34FF8.7D369192@asysijd.cz> Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 19:31:21 +0100 From: Jan Bourek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: - Cajovy Dychanek - Subject: Caj: Japonsky vecer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Bore da cajomilci, tady vam posilam nejake informace o japonskem veceru konanem v Praze v Roxy. Informace jsem si v Roxy primo vyzadal, takze by mely byt spravne a presne a uplne a tak dale. Ctete. Ja tam jedu (doufam, kdyz se nic nepokazi). Půlměsíc - japonský den v experimentálním prostoru ROXY středa 3. 2. 18:00 - čajový obřad (workshop, možná účast i pouhá podívaná) 19:30 - Ikebana - realizace tradiční japonské květinové výzdoby s výkladem 20:00 - Noriyuki Sawa - "Kousky" - "Semínko"etc.- 3 kratičká představení s vlastními nejen klasickými japonskými loutkami o koloběhu života nebo o tom, jak se deštník může změnit v ptáka. N. Sawa je japonský loutkoherec žijící v Praze, instruktor na DAMU. V loňském roce odehrál 95 představení v 7 zemích světa. 20:15 - Miyako Kurotani - "Půlměsíc" - 3 taneční představení s loutkami inspirované pohádkami a mýty + 1 taneční představení, ve kterých kratičký japonský text slouží jako zvukový doprovod. M. Kurotani hrála pro děti po celém Japonsku, pro svoji generaci hrála v divadlech i bytech. Se dvěma pouličními představeními navštívila 8 a 5 zemí světa. Hrála na mezinárodních loutkových festivalech v Rusku a ve Francii. Studovala na pražské DAMU. 22:00 - taneční zábava v tradičních i současných japonských melodiích a rytmech spojená s promítáním nejslavnějších japonských animovaných filmů.     >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Sun Jan 31 13:03:48 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA19925; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 13:03:48 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from eros.zcu.cz (eros.zcu.cz [147.228.1.10]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA19922 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 13:03:37 +0100 Received: from adis.cesnet.cz (adis.cesnet.cz [194.50.6.3]) by eros.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA18193 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 13:03:26 +0100 Received: from inet-gw.lapeco.cz (resl-gw.dnet.cz [194.108.43.238]) by adis.cesnet.cz (8.8.8/CESNET) with ESMTP id NAA07590 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 13:00:06 +0100 (MET) Received: from default (asy2.lapeco.cz [192.168.100.12]) by inet-gw.lapeco.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA18040 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 12:56:29 +0100 Message-ID: <000101be4d11$1bd24360$0c64a8c0@default> From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?VG9t4ZogTWFjaA==?=" To: Subject: Caj: Hello everybody Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 12:48:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0042_01BE4D17.EFA05000" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Toto je zpráva ve formátu MIME obsahující několik částí. ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01BE4D17.EFA05000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dobry Den vsem, dovolte abych se predstavil. 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------=_NextPart_000_0042_01BE4D17.EFA05000-- >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Sun Jan 31 13:06:04 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA19934; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 13:06:04 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from eros.zcu.cz (eros.zcu.cz [147.228.1.10]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA19931 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 13:05:53 +0100 Received: from ns.jes.cz (IDENT:root@ns.jes.cz [194.228.41.66]) by eros.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA18202 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 13:05:41 +0100 Received: from default (dial-up002.jes.cz. [194.228.41.125]) by ns.jes.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA26444 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 13:04:40 +0100 Message-ID: <003601be4d11$cb96e800$7d29e4c2@default> From: "Filgorn" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Teplota vody Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 13:04:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ahojky Jestli jeste muzu dodat cosi, tak i kytkam prijde voda odstata, nebo dlouho prevarena, jako prijemnejsi. Jednu dobu to dost propagovali zahradnici. Takze, asi to opravdu bude temi plyny obsazenymi ve vode. Ale ja to (abych se priznal) nedelam. Ovsem, ja varim vecsi mnozstvi vody, a zalevam vzdy salek, takze (po dalsim vareni na dalsi salek) je to vlastne stejne, jako to delsi vareni. -----Původní zpráva----- Od: Milan Kropacek Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz Datum: 29. ledna 1999 12:18 Předmět: Re: Caj: Teplota vody > Bore da cajomilci, > nedavno jsem tu cetl nejaky prispevek a stalo tam (nebo ty litery na > jakoby papire lezi?), ze voda na caj se ma vzdy nechat chvilku varit a > az pote nechat zchladit na potrebnou teplotu. To mne privadi k otazce > jaky je rozdil mezi tim, kdyz vodu pouze dostanu k potrebne teplote a Na to jsem se zeptal jednoho kamose, ktery se drive zabyval chemii. Nevim, jestli popisovane deje maji nejaky vztah ke kvalite caje, nebo jestli je to v necem uplne jinem. Cituji: ------------ cut here ------------------ Je v tom rozdil. A dalsi rozdil je v tom, jak dlouho ji budes varit. V obycejny vode z vodovodu je za normalnich okolnosti rozpusteno neco oxidu uhlicityho (s vodou tvori kyselinu uhlicitou), chloru (s vodou tvori kyselinu chlornou), kysliku (s vodou tvori peroxidove vazby) a dusiku (ten nedela nic). Dale je tam nejakej uhicitan vapenatej. Ostatni obsazeny latky zustavaj beze zmen a tak je neuvadim. Varem se z vody vylouci dusik, protoze rozpustnost plynu je neprimo umerna teplote vody a vysrazi se uhlicitany (kotelni kamen). Dale se kyseliny rozlozi zpet na vodu a oxidy, ktere se z vody vyvari. Vsechny tyto deje vsak neprobehnou najednou. Naopak rozklad kyselin na vodu a plynne oxidy je proces pomalejsi - nekolik minut za staleho varu. Takze rozdil je znacny a bude zalezet na dobe varu a obsazenych latkach. Prevarena voda je take mene korozivni, protoze je z ni pryc kyslik, kterej s vodou dela peroxid. ------------ cut here ------------------ -- Milan Kropacek Stapro s.r.o. >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Sun Jan 31 17:52:12 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA20408; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 17:52:12 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA20405 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 17:52:11 +0100 Received: from conan.asysijd.cz (mailexim@server.asysijd.cz [195.75.66.161]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA02409 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 17:52:10 +0100 (MET) Received: from kol-dial14.asysijd.cz (asysijd.cz) [195.75.66.24] by conan.asysijd.cz with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1 (Debian)) id 10706P-0007l8-00; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 17:52:06 +0100 Message-ID: <36B488B7.6A1ED126@asysijd.cz> Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 17:45:44 +0100 From: Jan Bourek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: - Cajovy Dychanek - Subject: Caj: China restaurant Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Bore da, dnes jsem zasel s rodici do cinske restarauce v Koline. Maji tam pekne stylove lampionky, obrazy, misky a tak. Dali jsme si jidlo a ja si pak chtel objednat Long Jing, ale oni ho nemeli, ze pry dodavatel ho uz dlouho nema atd. To ale neni důlezite. Dulezita byla ta zkusenost, ze majitel je Cinan a kdyz jsem se na ten caj ptal tak ho vyslovoval: LONG ČING. Takze nyni uz mam jasno ve sprave vyslovnosti tohoto cajiku. Vsude se pise Lung Ching, Long jing, Lung-ťing a podobne. Clovek pak ani nevi jak spravne vyslovovat, ci jaka transkripce je jak vyslovovatelna a srozumitelna. Proto odedneska ja rikam: LONG ČING. PS.: Je velice zajimave, ze nam prinesli jako pozornost podniku nejdrive smazene ovoce a pak jeste nejake cinske horke (ne trpke, ale varici) ((vidite jak je to nepouzivani diakritiky zavadejici)) vino. Minule, kdyz jsem tam byl s prateli, tak nam zas zdarma donesli sake. Je to zajimave, v Cechach dost neobvykle (alespon pro mne). *JB*   >From owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Sun Jan 31 23:31:18 1999 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA20935; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 23:31:18 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: dione.zcu.cz: postmaster set sender to owner-student@dione.zcu.cz using -f Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA20932 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 23:31:17 +0100 Received: from hermes.iol.cz ([194.228.2.40]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA05835 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 23:31:16 +0100 (MET) Received: from my-pul-n ([194.228.128.167]) by hermes.iol.cz (Post.Office MTA v3.5.2 release 221 ID# 631-58653U30000L30000S0V35) with ESMTP id cz for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 23:30:44 +0100 From: "janvacek" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Konvicky a DC Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 23:07:40 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19990131223044.AAC23195@hermes.iol.cz@my-pul-n> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Jedna se o konvicky Yixingoveho typu, hlinene i se salky. Klani se Sasek ---------- > Pekne konvicky pozadovaneho typu se salky, chcete-li kalisky,jsou na prodej > v jendnom obchudku kousek od Vltavske. Tady mi chybi kontext--co jsou pozadovane konvicky, nebo konvicky tohoto druhu? Uniklo mi na ci mail je to reakce.