From Majordomo@dione.zcu.cz Sat Mar 11 00:37:51 2000 Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 23:34:02 +0100 From: Majordomo@dione.zcu.cz To: jk@jikos.jikos.cz Subject: Majordomo file: list 'caj' file 'caj.9810' -- >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 1 08:34:11 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA29552 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:34:11 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA29549 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:34:10 +0200 Received: from dns.terminal.cz (dns.terminal.cz [195.70.130.1]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA18998 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:34:02 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ruml (ppp76.ss.terminal.cz [195.70.129.76]) by dns.terminal.cz (8.9.1/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA19597 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:33:49 +0200 Message-ID: <004201bdbb83$f8e355c0$4c8146c3@ruml> From: "Ivan Ruml" To: Subject: Caj: Internetova stranka - Amana Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 08:32:01 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003B_01BDBB94.862D1FA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01BDBB94.862D1FA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Vazeni pratele, I kdyz se bohuzel na deni konference moc nepodilim, rad bych Vas pozval = na nasi novou stranku na adrese www.caj.cz. =20 Tato stranka stale prochazi vyvojem, pripravuje se maly slovnik pojmu, = pruvodce po ceskych cajovnach atd.... Pripravujeme jakysi "chat room" o = ceskych cajovych podnicich. Je toho dost a tesime se na Vasi navstevu. =20 Ivan Ruml - ruml@caj.cz ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01BDBB94.862D1FA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Vazeni pratele,
I kdyz se bohuzel na deni konference = moc=20 nepodilim, rad bych Vas pozval na nasi novou stranku na adrese www.caj.cz. 
Tato stranka stale prochazi vyvojem, = pripravuje=20 se maly slovnik pojmu, pruvodce po ceskych cajovnach atd.... = Pripravujeme jakysi=20 "chat room" o ceskych cajovych podnicich. Je toho dost a = tesime se na=20 Vasi navstevu.
 
Ivan Ruml  - ruml@caj.cz
------=_NextPart_000_003B_01BDBB94.862D1FA0-- >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 1 08:53:42 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA29607 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:53:42 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA29604 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:53:41 +0200 Received: from inext.inext.cz (inext.inext.cz [195.75.71.10]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA19493 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:53:39 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from inext.inext.cz ([195.75.71.10]) by inext.inext.cz (Netscape Mail Server v1.1) with SMTP id AAA201 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:56:10 +0100 Received: from (asvs01t.inext.cz [194.228.56.41]) by inext.inext.cz with SMTP (MailShield v1.10 beta 1); Thu, 01 Oct 1998 08:56:09 +0200 From: "Linka duvery Vsetin" To: Subject: Caj: Re: Oda na kensky caj Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:42:22 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Message-ID: <19981001075610841.AAA201@inext.inext.cz> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id IAA29605 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Pouzivam stejny zpusob, pokud chci caj s velkym obsahem teinu, necham louhovat 2 minuty. Mimochodem, doba louhovani a vubec priprava (myslim ty obecnejsi pravidla pro pripravu caje) je v ruzne literature odlisna. Pokud budete mit nekdo chut, napiste svoje oblibene zpusoby pri priprave caje. Zajimava je napriklad teplota vody, kterou se caj zaleva. ---------- > Odesílatel: Stepan Kasal > Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Předmět: Caj: Oda na kensky caj > Datum: 30. září 1998 9:58 > > Caj pratele. > > Omlouvam se za ten predchozi mail, uklepl jsem se a vypusteny mail ani parem > volu ... > > > > Jake mate zkusenosti s cajem Kena? Podle meho nazoru je to vyborny caj, ale > > > nevim, jak moc je oblibeny u ostanich. > > > Ja osobne mam kenske caje pomerne rad, mam s nimi ale takovou zkusenost, > > ze se mohou nechat luhovat jen opravdu kratce tj. 1,5 az 2 minuty , kdyz se > > nechaji dele, tak strasne zhorknou. Jejich zvlastnosti je, ze maji mnohem > > delsi ucinnost nez treba cejlon ci cina a indie. Pro jejich pripravu je > > treba si pripravit velmi jemne sitko, jsou skoro prachove. > > Je pravda, ze vsechny drti (fannings), tj. "skoro prachove" caje se musi luhovat > jen kratsi dobu, aby se nezacaly uvolnovat trisloviny a nezkroutil se pijakovi > jazyk. Pokud vim, jsou to caje, ktere jsou zpracovany metodou LTP, vydobytku > prumyslove revoluce pocatku stoleti. Domnivam se, ze to plati i o cejlonskych > cajich, pokud jsou zpracovany na takovouto drt (ctverecky asi 1mm krat 1mm). > Take je vhodne pro pripravu uzit vice vody, nez u caju zpracovanych ortodoxni > cestou. Pokud tedy pouziji stejne mnozstvi vody a mnozstvi trislovin reguluji > tim, ze nalev scedim jiz za 1,5 minuty, ziskam silnejsi caj (myslim s vetsim > obsahem teinu). > > Ja osobne mam velmi rad kensky caj zpracovany ortodoxnim postupem, kvality GFOP, > tedy obsahujici dost tipsu. Prilis nechapu, proc se rika "Golden FOP", kdyz > zejmena v tomto caji vidim "bile listky", tedy stribrne tipsy, ale nemusim vsemu > rozumet :-) > Rozhodne je to listovy caj, a nejsou to nejake velke listy a stopky, je to pekny, > kvalitni caj. Takovy jsem pred dvema lety koupil v Dobre cajovne, potom jsem > nedavnou koupil kilo v Amane, takze asi celkem je k sehnani. > > Chut kenskych caju mnozi povazuji za fadni, nevedi, co na ni mam. Ja sam ji > neumim slovy popsat lepe, nez jakousi papirovou prichut, coz pravda moc nelaka. > Kdyz jsem poprve ochutnal knsky caj, byl jsem potesen, ze poznavam osobne jednu > z vyraznych slozek smesi English Breakfast firmy Ahmad. Hadal bych, ze Kena se > do smesi typu Breakfast pouziva casteji, i kdyz asi spis jen drti. > > Kazdemu, kdo ma rad cerne caje, zejmena cinske (Yunnan, Keemun) a indicke > (predevsim Nilgiri, ale i Assam), mohu ochutnani Kenskeho caje vrele doporucit. > I kdyz se nestane vasim oblibencem, rozsirite si obzor ;-) > Ja bych ovsem hledal caj listovy, ve kterem jsou videt "bile" listky, tedy > ochmurene tipsy. Nejspise ho lze nalezt pod nazvem Kenya GFOP. > > PS: taky si ho budu muset dat, abych vedel, o cem mluvim, uz jsem ho nepil > kolik mesicu. > Caj, > Stepan Kasal >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 1 09:58:30 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA29756 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:58:30 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA29753 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:58:29 +0200 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA27732 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:58:29 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA00649 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:58:28 +0200 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 1 Oct 98 09:58:29 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 1 Oct 98 09:58:26 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:58:25 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Prazdninove prihody s cajem X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <194EE46958@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > Rozhodne souhlasim, ze ovonene caje nejsou nic moc, snad jenom bergamot. > > Ale mel jsem zeleny (druh uz si nemapatuji) ochuceny bergamotem, ten mi > > moc nechutnal. Mate nejake zkusenosti? > > Michal > > Zeleny caj s bergamotem je podobny vymysl jako cerny jasminovy caj. > To se proste k sobe nehodi. > Ne ze by to nebyla zajimava zvlastnost, ale tezko to dosahne dlouhodobe > obliby. Zeleny caj s bergamotem neznam, ale cerneho caje s jasminem se musim zastat. Je dobry (aspon pro mne) a vyplati se jako start pro zacinajici. Je vhodny i na snidani a obcas i k roztopenym kamnum. Ale je to samozrejme vec nazoru a chuti. Nicmene nu nedavejme cernou znamku :-) Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 1 10:10:52 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA29812 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:10:52 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA29809 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:10:52 +0200 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA32001 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:10:51 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01001 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:10:50 +0200 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 1 Oct 98 10:10:51 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 1 Oct 98 10:10:49 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:10:40 +100 Subject: Caj: RE: Masala X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <1983B92744@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Takze slibeny recept na masalu > > 1 l vody > 1/2 l mleka > 1 cajova lzice (cl) koreni > 1 cl cerneho caje > cukr dle chuti > > Do vrouci vody pridame koreni, cerny caj a cukr > a varime 1 minutu. Pak dolejeme mleko a nechame > vzkypet. Ocedime a podavame teple. Jo jo jo, tak takhle to taky znam :-). Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 1 13:27:20 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA30169 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:27:20 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA30166 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:27:19 +0200 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA11297 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:27:19 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA06890 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:27:18 +0200 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 1 Oct 98 13:27:19 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 1 Oct 98 13:27:08 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:27:07 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Prazdninove prihody s cajem X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <1CC9723A01@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz >K tomku Lapsang Souchongu, ten jsem si koupil, ale vubec nebyl dobry, nebot > "vonel" po dehtu a kupodivu i tak chutnal. Navic jsem ho musel izolovat od > ostatnich caju, aby mi nenacichly. > Sam bych doporucil k ochutnani cinsky caj SHOU MEE, ktery ma takovou > jemnou nasladlou chut. To jsou ty individualni chute. Zrovna u horicich kamen ci krbu je Lapsang skvelym cajem. Poprve me taky vydesil, ale rychle se stal soucasti me sady i kdyz ho piju opravdu prilezitostne (ted jsem se prestehoval do domu s kamnama, tak se to asi zvysi). Jinak izolovat doporucuju (i kdyz caje by jsi mel mit uskladnene tak, aby se ti do nich zvenci stejne nic nedostalo) a navic neni spatne ani zvlast vyclenene sitko na tyhle specificke caje, jinak ho pak musis nejak proplachnout jinym, jemnejsim cajem. Shou Mee zrovna treba me moc nezaujal, coz neznamena, ze je spatny, jen znam vyrazne lepsi. Ale ono je to trochu dost zavisle i na momentalni nalade, treba nekdy jindy ho ocenim. Pavel Hlavacek mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Fri Oct 2 09:58:29 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA00565 for caj-outgoing; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:58:29 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA00562 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:58:28 +0200 Received: from eryx2.zcu.cz (eryx2.zcu.cz [147.228.206.13]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA18474 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:58:28 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (jurista3@localhost) by eryx2.zcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA13152 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:58:27 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: eryx2.zcu.cz: jurista3 owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:58:27 +0200 (MET DST) From: Demeter Jurista X-Sender: jurista3@eryx2.zcu.cz To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Re: In-Reply-To: <1CC9723A01@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz On Thu, 1 Oct 1998, Pavel Hlavacek wrote: > >K tomku Lapsang Souchongu, ten jsem si koupil, ale vubec nebyl dobry, nebot > > "vonel" po dehtu a kupodivu i tak chutnal. Navic jsem ho musel izolovat od No spravny Lapsang nevoni po dehtu, ale po borovem drivi nad kterym se dosusuje ... > To jsou ty individualni chute. Zrovna u horicich kamen ci krbu je > Lapsang skvelym cajem. S tim se neda nez souhlasit, ale jak uz jsem psal drive, zacatecnikum se nesmi dat privonet k surovemu caji (obzvlaste pokud jde o sortu Crocodile). Pro ty, kterym by se Lapsang zdal moc silny doporucuji Caravan Blend, to je smes Lapsangu tusim s Yunnanem (znalci prominou, ted si presne nevzpomenu) a je tak jemnejsi jak vune tak i chut. > Shou Mee zrovna treba me moc nezaujal, coz neznamena, ze je spatny, jen > znam vyrazne lepsi. Shou Mee neni spatny caj, jen clovek opravdu musi mit naladu dat si nejaky zeleny (byly) caj. Mita DJ >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Fri Oct 2 10:09:00 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA00617 for caj-outgoing; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:09:00 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA00614 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:09:00 +0200 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA18754 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:08:59 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA19222 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:08:55 +0200 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 2 Oct 98 10:08:56 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 2 Oct 98 10:08:41 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:08:33 +100 Subject: Caj: Cajovna a katalog X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <317B441E6F@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Tak zase neco noveho. Rad bych slysel vase nazory na Dobrou cajovnu na Mustku (resp. Vacl. nam.) v Praze (pokud znate). Ja uz ho mam, jen si ho rad zkonsultuju. S tim mne napadlo, ze by mohlo byt zajimave udelat i jakousi malou anketku chvaly a hany na jednak konkretni druhy caju a hlavne na konkretni cajovny. Jen nemam ucelenou formu a bohuzel ani pristup a znalosti pro vytvoreni nejakeho formulare. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Fri Oct 2 11:16:12 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA00776 for caj-outgoing; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:16:12 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA00773 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:16:11 +0200 Received: from okusrv.oku-cl.cz (oku-dlink-eth.clnet.cz [193.165.96.214]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA21086 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:16:01 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mojtek.oku-cl.cz (mojtek.oku-cl.cz [193.165.97.135]) by okusrv.oku-cl.cz (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA20344 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:22:43 +0200 Message-ID: <005601bdede5$3fdd3fc0$8761a5c1@mojtek.oku-cl.cz> From: "Pavel Mojtek" To: Subject: Re: Re: Caj: Prazdninove prihody s cajem Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:15:50 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz >pro jednoho kamarada, ktery z duvodu viry nepije caj, skousely i Mohl bych se jenom zeptat ,jaka ze to vira nedovoluje piti caje? >Petr Pavel >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Fri Oct 2 11:55:44 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA00921 for caj-outgoing; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:55:44 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA00918 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:55:43 +0200 Received: from kiv.zcu.cz (ur404p01-rek.rek.zcu.cz [147.228.71.108]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA22458; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:55:42 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3614B12F.7528CACF@kiv.zcu.cz> Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 11:55:43 +0100 From: Pavel Baxa Organization: ZCU Plzen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Prazdninove prihody s cajem References: <005601bdede5$3fdd3fc0$8761a5c1@mojtek.oku-cl.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Pavel Mojtek wrote: > Mohl bych se jenom zeptat ,jaka ze to vira nedovoluje piti caje? > >Petr > Pavel Nevim, kterou viru mel na mysli Petr, ale ja byl letos v Jindrichove Hradci (coz je mimochodem navrat k Subj.) a ciste nahodou jsem narazil na cajovnu, toz co bych nezkusil,ze. Vlezu tam, docela hezke prostredi, rikam si, a co ze mi teda nalejou. Zacali mi nabizet nejaky divny ovocnaky a divoke bejli, ani to nema cesky nazev. Tak jsem rekl, ze bych chtel caj, kdyz jsem v cajovne, coz nepochopili. "Caj z cajovniku," snazim se upresnit sve prani. "Tak to ne, to my nemame, to nepijeme." "Proc ne a kdo je to MY?" nechapu zase ja. No vypadlo z nich, ze MY jsou Krisnisti. Hare Krisna odmita jakekoli omamne latky, coz je podle nich i caj a kafe. Xmichu. Nejsem chemik, ale kdyz se precpu cistym CUKREM, SOLI nebo KYSLIKEM, tak to se mnou asi zahoupa daleko vic nez caj. O omamnosti vyfukovych plynu nemluve. A co endorfiny? No nic Pavel Baxa >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Fri Oct 2 12:26:25 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA01077 for caj-outgoing; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 12:26:25 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA01074 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 12:26:24 +0200 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA23493 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 12:26:24 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA22039 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 12:26:24 +0200 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 2 Oct 98 12:26:24 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 2 Oct 98 12:26:18 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 12:26:11 +100 Subject: Caj: H. Krisna X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <33C68C4E3A@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Zacali mi nabizet nejaky divny ovocnaky a divoke bejli, > ani to nema cesky nazev. Tak jsem rekl, ze bych chtel caj, > kdyz jsem v cajovne, coz nepochopili. "Caj z cajovniku," > snazim se upresnit sve prani. > "Tak to ne, to my nemame, to nepijeme." > "Proc ne a kdo je to MY?" nechapu zase ja. > > No vypadlo z nich, ze MY jsou Krisnisti. Hare Krisna odmita > jakekoli omamne latky, coz je podle nich i caj a kafe. Xmichu. Nechci se dotykat stoupencu H.K., ale da se rici, ze je malo bylinek, ktere ve sve podstate nejsou omamne latky. Pak uz by jim opravdu zbyla jen voda. Nu coz, se stoupenci H.K. si tedy u caje nepopovidame. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Fri Oct 2 12:27:54 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA01109 for caj-outgoing; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 12:27:54 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA01106 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 12:27:53 +0200 Received: from sun.fsid.cvut.cz (sun.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA23539 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 12:27:52 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from student.fsid.cvut.cz (student.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.3]) by sun.fsid.cvut.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA21015 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:27:52 GMT Received: from FSICD1/SpoolDir by student.fsid.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.21); 2 Oct 98 12:27:52 MET-1MEST Received: from SpoolDir by FSICD1 (Mercury 1.21); 2 Oct 98 12:27:31 MET-1MEST From: "Jan Kasparek, student" Organization: FSI CVUT, Prague To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 12:27:29 MET-1MEST Subject: Re: Caj: Cajovna a katalog X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-ID: <5F8E867A46@student.fsid.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Tak zase neco noveho. Rad bych slysel vase nazory na Dobrou cajovnu na > Mustku (resp. Vacl. nam.) v Praze (pokud znate). Ja uz ho mam, jen si ho > rad zkonsultuju. > S tim mne napadlo, ze by mohlo byt zajimave udelat i jakousi malou > anketku chvaly a hany na jednak konkretni druhy caju a hlavne na konkretni > cajovny. Jen nemam ucelenou formu a bohuzel ani pristup a znalosti pro > vytvoreni nejakeho formulare. > > Pavel No takovou malou databazi cajoven vytvarime v ramci Projektu na adrese http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek/tea.htm Jsou to prispevky konkretnich lidi, kteri tu cajovnu navstivili. Vztvoril bych i CGI skript nebo databazi SQL (po chvilce vyuky, jeste nikdy jsem to nedelal), jenze u nas ve skole jsou takovy veci zakazany. Takze recenze na cajovny, databazi pojmu a vsechno ostatni vytvarim rucne a pomoci emailu. No kouknete na stranky a uvidite. Kdyby jste mel nekdo moznost nekam umist ten skript na recenze cajoven nebo tu databazi tak se ozvete, urcite by to ulehcilo praci. Zdravi vsechny STRAKA ___________________________________ Kasparek Jan, student Czech Technical Univerzity, Prague Faculty of Mechanical Engineering Spec: Biomedical and rehabilitation engineering E-mail: kasparek@student.fsid.cvut.cz Would you like to have pen-friends? Visit http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Fri Oct 2 16:24:46 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA03063 for caj-outgoing; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:24:46 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA03060 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:24:41 +0200 Received: from gate1.gymcheb.hiedu.cz ([194.108.93.202]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA30408 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:24:39 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from jessica.gymcheb.hiedu.cz ([194.108.78.162]) by gate1.gymcheb.hiedu.cz with ESMTP id RAA03835 (8.7.6/IDA-1.6 for ); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 17:28:00 +0200 Received: from JESSICA/SpoolDir by jessica.gymcheb.hiedu.cz (Mercury 1.21); 2 Oct 98 16:23:07 MET-DST Received: from SpoolDir by JESSICA (Mercury 1.30); 2 Oct 98 16:22:48 MET-DST From: "Lukas Vrba" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:22:43 MET-DST Subject: Caj: Necaje X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1a) Message-ID: <46D563CAD@jessica.gymcheb.hiedu.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Chtel bych vyzkouset nejaky necaj. Proto se ptam, jaky byste mi doporucili? Ktery se vam zdal zajimave chuti. diky Lukas e-mail:vrba@gymcheb.hiedu.cz >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Fri Oct 2 16:36:38 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA03117 for caj-outgoing; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:36:38 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA03114 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:36:37 +0200 Received: from matsrv.math.cas.cz (IDENT:kasal@math-gw.math.cas.cz [147.231.89.66]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA30653 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:36:37 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from kasal@localhost) by matsrv.math.cas.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA18762 for caj@dione.zcu.cz; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:36:36 +0200 From: Stepan Kasal Message-Id: <199810021436.QAA18762@matsrv.math.cas.cz> Subject: Re: Caj: Necaje To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:36:36 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <46D563CAD@jessica.gymcheb.hiedu.cz> from "Lukas Vrba" at Oct 2, 98 04:22:43 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Dobry den, > Chtel bych vyzkouset nejaky necaj. Proto se ptam, jaky byste mi doporucili? > Ktery se vam zdal zajimave chuti. me uz od mala chytnal sipkovy. Vyrabi se z plodu ruze sipkove, obsahuje vitamin C. Doufam, ze Vas neodradi fakt, ze tato prazvlastni nadherna rostlina roste i v nasich krajich. V posledni dobe se sipek casto misi s ibiskem, coz nepovazuji za stastne. Dalsi zajimave necaje: mate, pripadne smisene s citronovou travou (Salida del sol -- Vychod slunce), nebo Rooibos, zejmena v kombinaci s medunkou. Velmi mne take zaujalo Lapacho, ale jeho priprava je narocna (5 minut varit a pak jeste nechat 15 minut vyluhovat). Caj, Stepan >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Sun Oct 4 17:13:45 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA06788 for caj-outgoing; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 17:13:45 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA06785 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 17:13:39 +0200 Received: from localhost. (ns.speed.cz [212.20.64.94]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA21788 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 17:13:38 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pc by localhost. (8.8.4/SMI-SVR4) id LAA02015; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 11:02:33 -0400 Message-Id: <199810041502.LAA02015@localhost.> From: "Bent" To: Subject: Caj: Re: Databaze caju Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 14:26:43 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id RAA06786 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ahoj vsichni, pro priznivce tisteneho slova chci uvest, ze podle neoficialni informace ma do konce roku vyjit knizne jakysi katalog caju (registr). Alespon mi to sdelila majitelka knihkupectvi v Celetne kde jsou publikace o caji nejlepe k sehnani. Udajne maji vyjit dve knihy, toto ma byt jedna z nich. Autorem by mel byt Lubos Rychvalsky - spolumajitel Dobrych cajoven (znamy ze "snidane s Novou", kde byl o cajich jakysi serial). Jen pevne doufam, ze pokud k nejakemu podobnemu vydani dojde, bude obsahovat slovnicek jak cist jednotlive nazvy. Nejsem totiz zrovna sinolog a vyslovnost nekterych druhu mi pri nakupu pusobi potize. Ostatne tento problem ma i vetsina prodejcu caju, kteri ho resi svou vlastni vyslovnosti nazvu (casto tak jak jim sedne do "ust"). Mozna by stalo za to vyslovnost sjednotit. Michael. ---------- > Odesílatel: MILAN SVEC > Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Předmět: Caj: Databaze caju > Datum: 30. září 1998 8:50 > > Mili cajickari, > trochu odbocim od diskusi v konferenci, ale caju se to take tyka. > > Pred prazdninami tady zaznela myslenka jakesi informacni databaze > o cajich. Ja jako priznivec vsech prehlednych seznamu bych o ni > docela stal. Co se stalo s timhle napadem, nebo jsem si snad neceho > nevsiml? Patrim spise mezi rekreacni priznivce caje nebo presneji > ochutnavace, takze jakysi prehled by mi pomohl se trochu zorientovat > v prispevcich plnych slov, kterym nerozumim. :-) > > Milan Svec > >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 5 08:14:19 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA07915 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 08:14:19 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA07912 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 08:14:18 +0200 Received: from mail.oku-je.cz ([195.47.23.218]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA28197 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 08:14:12 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from SPRAVCE [172.16.50.100] by mail.oku-je.cz (AltaVista Mail V2.0/2.0 BL23 listener) id 0000_007b_3618_61dd_051b; Mon, 05 Oct 1998 08:06:21 +0200 Message-ID: <004a01bdf026$aea738a0$643210ac@spravce> From: "=?iso-8859-2?Q?Ing._Petr_Kyjovsk=FD?=" To: Subject: Re: Re: Caj: Prazdninove prihody s cajem Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 08:09:10 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id IAA07913 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz >>pro jednoho kamarada, ktery z duvodu viry nepije caj, skousely i > >Mohl bych se jenom zeptat ,jaka ze to vira nedovoluje piti caje? > >>Petr > > >Pavel Jde o stoupence hnuti Hare Krsna. Caj spolu s kavou a cokoladou je povazovan za drogy a jako takovy se nedoporucuje. Jinak Krisnaci maji celkem zajimave alternativy. Treba ovocne caje (doufam ze mne jako rouhace neukamenujete :-) ) Osobne jsem mel celkem dobre zkusenosti s "cajem" ze zazvoru, ktery jsem nabizel na ruznych brontarnach jako prevenci proti nachlazeni. Je pravda ze kazdemu tento "dryaků chutnat nebude (je dost ostry) ale na druhe strane se chodili na zazvorak ptat i pravidelni navstevnici cajoven :-) Petr >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 5 08:36:20 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA07994 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 08:36:20 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA07991 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 08:36:20 +0200 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA28663 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 08:36:19 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA22925 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 08:36:19 +0200 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 5 Oct 98 08:36:20 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 5 Oct 98 08:36:13 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 08:36:11 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Necaje X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <77F2C33B61@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > me uz od mala chytnal sipkovy. Vyrabi se z plodu ruze sipkove, obsahuje > vitamin C. Doufam, ze Vas neodradi fakt, ze tato prazvlastni nadherna > rostlina roste i v nasich krajich. > V posledni dobe se sipek casto misi s ibiskem, coz nepovazuji za stastne. > > Dalsi zajimave necaje: mate, pripadne smisene s citronovou travou (Salida > del sol -- Vychod slunce), nebo Rooibos, zejmena v kombinaci s medunkou. > Velmi mne take zaujalo Lapacho, ale jeho priprava je narocna (5 minut varit > a pak jeste nechat 15 minut vyluhovat). U necaju je velice zajimave, kolik ruznych zpusobu pripravy existuje. Podle Zelene lekarny se naprr. sipkovy nalev ma louhovat ve vode vlazne nebo dokonce pres noc ve studene. Zkouseli jsme to a bylo z toho sipkove blaticko. Tak jsem holt dal vale vitaminu C a zase sipek chvili povarim. Rooibos zase pripravuji podobne jako predchudce Lapacho, tedy 5 minut varit a 20 minut louhovat...on se ale da louhovat i dele, zapomnel jsem ho pres noc a byl stale dobry. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 5 08:45:31 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA08037 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 08:45:31 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA08034 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 08:45:30 +0200 Received: from gate.hob.cz (gate.hob.cz [193.179.115.19]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA29069 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 08:45:29 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by gate.hob.cz (8.8.2/8.8.2) id IAA08601 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 08:45:27 +0200 Received: from primus.hob.cz(172.21.1.16) by gate.hob.cz via smap (V2.1) id xma008599; Mon, 5 Oct 98 08:45:22 +0200 Received: by primus.hob.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 08:47:12 +0200 Message-ID: From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?H=E1jek_Ctirad?= To: "'caj@dione.zcu.cz'" Subject: sipek RE: Caj: Necaje Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 08:47:11 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ja pripravuji sipkovi caj se smesi trnek (plodu). Vecer dam do 1 litru hrst sipku a trochu trnek. Rano privedu k varu a vypnu, necham asi 15 minut louhovat, pak scedim. Trnky dodaji vybornou osvezujici chut. Ctirad > U necaju je velice zajimave, kolik ruznych zpusobu pripravy existuje. > Podle Zelene lekarny se naprr. sipkovy nalev ma louhovat ve vode vlazne > nebo dokonce pres noc ve studene. Zkouseli jsme to a bylo z toho sipkove > blaticko. >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 5 08:51:06 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA08084 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 08:51:06 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA08081 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 08:51:05 +0200 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA29165 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 08:51:05 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA23134 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 08:51:00 +0200 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 5 Oct 98 08:51:01 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 5 Oct 98 08:50:54 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 08:50:48 +100 Subject: Caj: Re: sipek X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <78318011F7@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Ja pripravuji sipkovi caj se smesi trnek (plodu). > Vecer dam do 1 litru hrst sipku a trochu trnek. > Rano privedu k varu a vypnu, necham asi 15 minut louhovat, > pak scedim. > Trnky dodaji vybornou osvezujici chut. > > Ctirad > > > U necaju je velice zajimave, kolik ruznych zpusobu pripravy existuje. > > Podle Zelene lekarny se naprr. sipkovy nalev ma louhovat ve vode vlazne > > nebo dokonce pres noc ve studene. Zkouseli jsme to a bylo z toho sipkove > > blaticko. To je fakt zajimava kombinace. Kloubi dohromady pozadavky pro zachovani vitaminu C a ty ihned potre zaverecnym povarenim. Ale muze to byt spravny sipkotrnkovy driak :-) Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 5 09:16:07 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA08154 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 09:16:07 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA08151 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 09:16:07 +0200 Received: from gate.hob.cz (gate.hob.cz [193.179.115.19]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA29849 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 09:16:05 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by gate.hob.cz (8.8.2/8.8.2) id JAA08963 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 09:15:57 +0200 Received: from primus.hob.cz(172.21.1.16) by gate.hob.cz via smap (V2.1) id xma008955; Mon, 5 Oct 98 09:15:39 +0200 Received: by primus.hob.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 09:17:30 +0200 Message-ID: From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?H=E1jek_Ctirad?= To: "'caj@dione.zcu.cz'" Subject: Caj: RE: Re: sipek Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 09:17:26 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id JAA08152 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Nejsem specialista na vitamin C :-) Nekteri odbornici jsou toho nazoru, ze privedenim k varu se zachova vice vitaminu C. Dokonce se mnozstvi vitaminu C zvysi... ? Proc, to nevim. Obdobne stavy delane za studena maji mene vitaminu C, nez ty privedene k varu. Udajne je vitamin C nicen nejvice latkami, ktere jsou v plodech. Ctirad > ---------- > Odesílatel: Pavel Hlavacek[SMTP:HLAVACEK@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz] > Odpovědi: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Odesláno: 5. října 1998 10:50 > Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Předmět: Caj: Re: sipek > > > Ja pripravuji sipkovi caj se smesi trnek (plodu). > > Vecer dam do 1 litru hrst sipku a trochu trnek. > > Rano privedu k varu a vypnu, necham asi 15 minut louhovat, > > pak scedim. > > Trnky dodaji vybornou osvezujici chut. > > > > Ctirad > > > > > U necaju je velice zajimave, kolik ruznych zpusobu pripravy > existuje. > > > Podle Zelene lekarny se naprr. sipkovy nalev ma louhovat ve vode > vlazne > > > nebo dokonce pres noc ve studene. Zkouseli jsme to a bylo z toho > sipkove > > > blaticko. > > To je fakt zajimava kombinace. Kloubi dohromady pozadavky pro zachovani > vitaminu C a ty ihned potre zaverecnym povarenim. Ale muze to byt spravny > sipkotrnkovy driak :-) > > Pavel > > > mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz > http://geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek > >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 5 14:16:18 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA09671 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:16:18 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA09668 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:16:17 +0200 Received: from okusrv.oku-cl.cz (oku-dlink-eth.clnet.cz [193.165.96.214]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA06945 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:15:09 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mojtek.oku-cl.cz (mojtek.oku-cl.cz [193.165.97.135]) by okusrv.oku-cl.cz (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA10894 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:22:52 +0200 Message-ID: <005201bdf059$be2b3460$8761a5c1@mojtek.oku-cl.cz> From: "Pavel Mojtek" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Prazdninove prihody s cajem Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:14:45 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz >>Jake mate zkusenosti s cajem Kena? Podle meho nazoru je to vyborny caj, ale > Ja osobne mam kenske caje pomerne rad, mam s nimi ale takovou zkusenost, >ye se mohou nechat luhovat jen >opravdu kratce tj. 1,5 az 2 minuty , kdyz se nechaji dele, tak strasne >zhorknou. Jejich zvlastnosti je, ze maji mnohem >delsi ucinnost nez treba cejlon ci cina a indie. Pro jejich pripravu je >treba si pripravit velmi jemne sitko, jsou skoro prachove. Nevím ,nevím zrovna jsem dosrkal kensky cajik a je to GFOP MARINYN,a ten samozrejmne prachovy neni.Takže louhuji tak 4 min. a pochutnam si Pavel >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 5 14:23:58 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA09745 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:23:58 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA09742 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:23:58 +0200 Received: from fw.pvt.cz (fw.pvt.cz [194.149.101.194]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA07182 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:23:56 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by fw.pvt.cz; (5.65v4.0/1.3/10May95) id AA22480; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:23:23 +0200 Received: from p70w12.brn.pvt.cz (p70w12.brn.pvt.cz [172.17.41.62]) by mh.pvt.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA06498 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:23:18 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from brn.pvt.cz (petrbm.brn.pvt.cz [172.17.41.210]) by p70w12.brn.pvt.cz with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.1960.3) id 41PWXFNS; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:23:22 +0200 Message-Id: <3618B9DF.8FBB8B7F@brn.pvt.cz> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 14:21:51 +0200 From: Petr Buchmaier X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Kolik caje ?? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Dobry den chtel jsem se zeptat zkusenejsich v konferenci Kolik caje davate na litr vody ?? (v gramech) hodne se udava v cajovych lzickach na salek, nebo v polevkovych lzicich na kovnici ale jake mnozstvi je to presneji diky za info Petr >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 5 14:30:07 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA09800 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:30:07 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA09797 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:30:06 +0200 Received: from okusrv.oku-cl.cz (oku-dlink-eth.clnet.cz [193.165.96.214]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA07409 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:29:59 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mojtek.oku-cl.cz (mojtek.oku-cl.cz [193.165.97.135]) by okusrv.oku-cl.cz (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA10951 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:37:53 +0200 Message-ID: <007501bdf05b$d6b63f00$8761a5c1@mojtek.oku-cl.cz> From: "Pavel Mojtek" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Necaje Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:29:46 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz >V posledni dobe se sipek casto misi s ibiskem, coz nepovazuji za stastne. Při koupi je opravdu dulezite se podivat na slozeni jinak je clovek nemile prekvapen.Ono kdyz se clovek podiva na slozeni vetsiny "ovocnych" caju tak je slozeni nasledujici sipek levna hmota ibisek hodne a pekne barvi prirodne identicke aroma ci jak tem vonavkam rikaji potom nekdy jablko,kury z pomerance a lidicky si potom mysli ze delaj neco pro zdravi ,kdyz pijou vyluhy(vykaly? :-)) Ahoj Pavel >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 5 14:45:00 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA09857 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:45:00 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA09851 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:44:59 +0200 Received: from okusrv.oku-cl.cz (oku-dlink-eth.clnet.cz [193.165.96.214]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA07805 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:44:21 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mojtek.oku-cl.cz (mojtek.oku-cl.cz [193.165.97.135]) by okusrv.oku-cl.cz (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA11013 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:51:57 +0200 Message-ID: <008001bdf05d$cddd5060$8761a5c1@mojtek.oku-cl.cz> From: "Pavel Mojtek" To: Subject: Re: Re: Caj: Prazdninove prihody s cajem Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:43:51 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz >Jinak Krisnaci maji celkem zajimave alternativy. Treba ovocne caje >(doufam ze mne jako rouhace neukamenujete :-) ) Proč?Prave ovocne caje pouzivam na zapijeni babovky a hlavne decku, protoze si nejsem jistej v kolika letech a kolik caje cerneho muze dite pit. >Osobne jsem mel celkem dobre zkusenosti s "cajem" ze zazvoru, > ktery jsem nabizel na ruznych brontarnach jako prevenci proti nachlazeni. Ja vyzkousim vse takze sem s receptem.Z mleteho?Mam takovy dojem ze sem onehda shanel zazvor vcelku a neuspel jsem.Jo taky jsem nesehnal kardamon(nekdo tady uvadel recept na masalu),ale to je jina historie. Pavel >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 5 14:51:35 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA09923 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:51:35 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA09920 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:51:34 +0200 Received: from okusrv.oku-cl.cz (oku-dlink-eth.clnet.cz [193.165.96.214]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA08123 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:51:16 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mojtek.oku-cl.cz (mojtek.oku-cl.cz [193.165.97.135]) by okusrv.oku-cl.cz (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA11047 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:59:01 +0200 Message-ID: <009401bdf05e$ca920080$8761a5c1@mojtek.oku-cl.cz> From: "Pavel Mojtek" To: Subject: Caj: Re: Kolik caje ?? Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:50:55 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz >Kolik caje davate na litr vody ?? (v gramech) >hodne se udava v cajovych lzickach na salek, nebo v polevkovych lzicich na kovnici ale jake mnozstvi je to presneji Tady bych se pridal,cemu rikate vrouci voda.? Male bublinky,obcas velke,bublajici cela konvice,kdy ten caj mam zalit? Pavel >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 5 14:54:18 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA09996 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:54:18 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA09993 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:54:17 +0200 Received: from matsrv.math.cas.cz (IDENT:kasal@math-gw.math.cas.cz [147.231.89.66]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA08020 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:54:17 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from kasal@localhost) by matsrv.math.cas.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA22621 for caj@dione.zcu.cz; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:54:11 +0200 From: Stepan Kasal Message-Id: <199810051254.OAA22621@matsrv.math.cas.cz> Subject: Caj: Re: Kolik caje?? To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:54:11 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <3618B9DF.8FBB8B7F@brn.pvt.cz> from "Petr Buchmaier" at Oct 5, 98 02:21:51 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Dobry den, > Kolik caje davate na litr vody ?? (v gramech) > > hodne se udava v cajovych lzickach na salek, nebo v polevkovych lzicich na > kovnici ale jake mnozstvi je to presneji no, cajova lzicka je 2-3g, podle druhu caje a druhu lzicky. Takze prepoctena doporuceni anglickych krabicek (3 lzicky na 2 salky, cili 0,5l, nebo 5 lzicek na 4 salky, cili na litr) vychazeji tak na 15g na litr. Ja si varim caje slabsi, jednu malou cajovou lzicku na 0,4l, tj. asi 6g na litr. V pripade jemne drti nebo CTC (Cejlon, English/Irish Breakfast) je vhodne mnozstvi asi o 1/4 snizit (ve lzickach). Vaha lzicky caje se myslim kupodivu ani tolik nelisi, takze by to bylo 11, resp. 4g na anglicky, resp. muj caj. Ale jedina rozumna vec, co se da k tomu rici, je ze je to individualni, podle chuti. Napriklad Darjeeling si varim silnejsi, 7 az 7,5 g na litr. Naproti tomu velice podobny Nepal bych novackovi radeji uvaril slabsi, aby s nim moc nezamaval. Caj, Stepan >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 5 15:11:28 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA10124 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 15:11:28 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA10121 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 15:11:27 +0200 Received: from mail.oku-je.cz ([195.47.23.218]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA08807 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 15:11:19 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from SPRAVCE [172.16.50.100] by mail.oku-je.cz (AltaVista Mail V2.0/2.0 BL23 listener) id 0000_007b_3618_c398_4220; Mon, 05 Oct 1998 15:03:20 +0200 Message-ID: <01e101bdf060$f0abcec0$643210ac@spravce> From: "=?iso-8859-2?Q?Ing._Petr_Kyjovsk=FD?=" To: Subject: Re: Re: Caj: Prazdninove prihody s cajem Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 15:06:13 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id PAA10122 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz >>Osobne jsem mel celkem dobre zkusenosti s "cajem" ze zazvoru, >> ktery jsem nabizel na ruznych brontarnach jako prevenci proti nachlazeni. > > >Ja vyzkousim vse takze sem s receptem.Z mleteho? Jo z mleteho. Je to jednoduche. Pro presnejsi mnozstvi bych musel nahlednout do kucharky. Takze primererene zazvoru (asi tak cajova lzice na 1 l vody). Je mozne pridat hrebicek a skorici, povarit a osladit podle chuti. Je ho mozne dochutit jeste citronem. "Caj" je dost ostry takze pozor. Asi taky nebude chutnat kazdemu. >Mam takovy dojem ze sem onehda >shanel zazvor vcelku a neuspel jsem.Jo taky jsem nesehnal kardamon(nekdo >tady uvadel recept na masalu),ale to je jina historie. Jak zazvor v celku (suseny nikoliv cerstvy) tak i kardamon je mozne koupit u krisnaku pokud jste z Prahy tak nejlepe asi Ve vegetarianskem klubu U Govindy (ulice Na hrázy, přimo u metra Palmovka) Jinak taky provozuji zasilkovou sluzbu. Adresu presne nevim ale muzu zistit Petr. >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 5 17:23:50 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA10387 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 17:23:50 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA10384 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 17:23:49 +0200 Received: from localhost. (ns.speed.cz [212.20.64.94]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA12389 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 17:23:48 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pc by localhost. (8.8.4/SMI-SVR4) id LAA07886; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 11:12:36 -0400 Message-Id: <199810051512.LAA07886@localhost.> From: "Bent" To: Subject: Caj: Re: Re: Kolik caje ?? Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:09:06 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id RAA10385 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz ¨Tohle je velmi zajímavé téma. Podle posledních publikací které jsem cetl, popisuje faze varu pekne cinska cajova bible "kniha o caji". Prvni faze tvorba bublinek ve tvaru rybich ocek, druha vytvoreni nahrdelniku z bublinek podel obvodu, treti - klokot a "vzpinani" vody. Doporucuje se zalevat caj mezi druhou a treti fazi. Voda se nesmi nechat dlouho "vzpinat" nebot se unavi. Nekde jsem se take dozvedel ze voda se vari take z duvodu odstraneni kysliku. (??) Zajimaji mne zkusenosti ostatnich: 1/Jakou vodu pouzivate na opravdu dobre caje? (v panelaku nemam totiz studnu :-) 2/ Pripravujete vodu na caj ve skelnene konvici a jak se to osvedcuje na elektrickem varici? Chystam se totiz vyradit svou plechovou pistalovou konev ke ktere mam osobni vztah :-) ---------- > Odesílatel: Pavel Mojtek > Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Předmět: Caj: Re: Kolik caje ?? > Datum: 5. října 1998 13:50 > > >Kolik caje davate na litr vody ?? (v gramech) > >hodne se udava v cajovych lzickach na salek, nebo v polevkovych lzicich na > kovnici ale jake mnozstvi je to presneji > > > Tady bych se pridal,cemu rikate vrouci voda.? > Male bublinky,obcas velke,bublajici cela konvice,kdy ten caj mam > zalit? > Pavel > >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 5 17:23:47 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA10382 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 17:23:47 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA10379 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 17:23:46 +0200 Received: from localhost. (ns.speed.cz [212.20.64.94]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA12492 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 17:23:45 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pc by localhost. (8.8.4/SMI-SVR4) id LAA08402; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 11:12:39 -0400 Message-Id: <199810051512.LAA08402@localhost.> From: "Bent" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Rostlina Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:52:17 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id RAA10380 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Chtel bych se zeptat, zda nekdo nevi kde je mozne sehnat rostlinku caje k pestovani. Zda je mozne sehnat ji zde, nebo nutne od nekud privest. Kdyz jsem se na tohle ptal v Dobre cajovne v Praze, zdelil mi obsluhujici ze vyvoz cajove rostliny za hranice je ve vetsine zemi zakazan. Mate nekdo zkusenosti s pestovanim, nebo nevite kde by se dala sehnat? Znami jedou o vanocich do Thajska, ale pochybuji, ze zrovna tam bych uspel. Vi nekdo o Thajskych cajich? :-) Diky Michael. >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 6 10:00:20 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA12140 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 10:00:20 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA12137 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 10:00:18 +0200 Received: from inext.inext.cz (inext.inext.cz [195.75.71.10]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA22461 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 10:00:08 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from inext.inext.cz ([195.75.71.10]) by inext.inext.cz (Netscape Mail Server v1.1) with SMTP id AAA120 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 10:02:58 +0100 Received: from (asvs05t.inext.cz [194.228.56.45]) by inext.inext.cz with SMTP (MailShield v1.10 beta 1); Tue, 06 Oct 1998 10:02:57 +0200 From: "Linka duvery Vsetin" To: Subject: Caj: Re: Re: Re: Kolik caje ?? Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 09:58:41 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Message-ID: <19981006090258143.AAA120@inext.inext.cz> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id KAA12138 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz ---------- Odesílatel: Bent Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz Předmět: Caj: Re: Re: Kolik caje ?? Datum: 5. října 1998 14:09 ¨Tohle je velmi zajímavé téma. Podle posledních publikací které jsem cetl, popisuje faze varu pekne cinska cajova bible "kniha o caji". Prvni faze tvorba bublinek ve tvaru rybich ocek, druha vytvoreni nahrdelniku z bublinek podel obvodu, treti - klokot a "vzpinani" vody. Doporucuje se zalevat caj mezi druhou a treti fazi. Voda se nesmi nechat dlouho "vzpinat" nebot se unavi. Nekde jsem se take dozvedel ze voda se vari take z duvodu odstraneni kysliku. (??) Zajimaji mne zkusenosti ostatnich: 1/Jakou vodu pouzivate na opravdu dobre caje? (v panelaku nemam totiz studnu :-) 2/ Pripravujete vodu na caj ve skelnene konvici a jak se to osvedcuje na elektrickem varici? Chystam se totiz vyradit svou plechovou pistalovou konev ke ktere mam osobni vztah :-) ---------- > Odesílatel: Pavel Mojtek > Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Předmět: Caj: Re: Kolik caje ?? > Datum: 5. října 1998 13:50 > > >Kolik caje davate na litr vody ?? (v gramech) > >hodne se udava v cajovych lzickach na salek, nebo v polevkovych lzicich na > kovnici ale jake mnozstvi je to presneji > > > Tady bych se pridal,cemu rikate vrouci voda.? > Male bublinky,obcas velke,bublajici cela konvice,kdy ten caj mam > zalit? > Pavel > ---------- Pokud se jedna o vodu z centralniho vodovodu (z upravny), je dobre nechat vodu nekolik sekund prevarit (ale opravdu jen nekolik malo sekund), pak nekolik sekund pockat a zalivat caj. Zatim si myslim, ze je to nejvhodnejsi postup, ale cekam na dalsi napady. Pouzivam el. varnou konev a jsem docela spokojeny, kdysi jsem pouzival sklenenou konev na vareni vody. Docela rozumim tomu, mit k nejakemu predmetu osobni vztah, mam nekolik takovych veci. michal >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 6 11:11:00 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA12292 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:11:00 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA12289 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:10:59 +0200 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA24619 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:10:59 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA10651 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:10:59 +0200 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 6 Oct 98 11:10:59 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 6 Oct 98 11:10:51 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:10:42 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Necaje X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <9287587BB9@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Pri koupi je opravdu dulezite se podivat na slozeni jinak je > clovek nemile prekvapen.Ono kdyz se clovek podiva na > slozeni vetsiny "ovocnych" caju tak je slozeni nasledujici > sipek levna hmota > ibisek hodne a pekne barvi > prirodne identicke aroma ci jak tem vonavkam rikaji > potom nekdy jablko,kury z pomerance a lidicky > si potom mysli ze delaj neco pro zdravi ,kdyz pijou > vyluhy(vykaly? :-)) Na kyticky (a sipky obzvlast) je stejne nejlepe vyrazit po svem, ty sipky ani nedaji zase tak moc prace. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 6 11:14:28 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA12342 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:14:28 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA12339 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:14:27 +0200 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA24364 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:14:27 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA10729 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:14:27 +0200 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 6 Oct 98 11:14:27 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 6 Oct 98 11:14:19 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:14:15 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Prazdninove prihody s cajem X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <9296212C50@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > >Mam takovy dojem ze sem onehda > >shanel zazvor vcelku a neuspel jsem.Jo taky jsem nesehnal kardamon(nekdo > >tady uvadel recept na masalu),ale to je jina historie. > > > Jak zazvor v celku (suseny nikoliv cerstvy) tak i kardamon je mozne koupit u > krisnaku pokud jste z Prahy tak nejlepe asi Ve vegetarianskem klubu U Govindy > (ulice Na hrazy, primo u metra Palmovka) Jinak taky provozuji zasilkovou > sluzbu. Adresu presne nevim ale muzu zistit Nebo kvalitni korenarstvi, v Praze je to napriklad U Salvatora, kousek od Betlemske kaple, pokud bude zajem, kouknu se i na nazev ulice. Tam maji skoro vse z koreni. Dale Govinda funguje lepe ve Zlatnicke (kousek od Kotvy v Praze) a dobre se dalo koreni nakupovat i u jejich kramku na Ohrade, ale tam jsem uz delsi dobu nebyl. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 6 11:16:33 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA12378 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:16:33 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA12375 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:16:33 +0200 Received: from kiv.zcu.cz (ur404p01-rek.rek.zcu.cz [147.228.71.108]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA24502; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:16:32 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3619DFF0.30BABB08@kiv.zcu.cz> Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 10:16:32 +0100 From: Pavel Baxa Organization: ZCU Plzen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Necaje References: <9287587BB9@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Pavel Hlavacek wrote: > > Na kyticky (a sipky obzvlast) je stejne nejlepe vyrazit po svem, ty > sipky ani nedaji zase tak moc prace. > > Pavel Nasbirat sipky skutecne neda moc prace, problem je ale, pokud si je clovek chce nechat na horsi casy. Suseni sipku je tak trochu umelecke dilo, mne osobne se to moc nedari (hnednou - asi susim moc pomalu). Pavel Baxa >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 6 11:16:56 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA12400 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:16:56 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA12397 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:16:55 +0200 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA24723 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:16:55 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA10779 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:16:55 +0200 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 6 Oct 98 11:16:56 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 6 Oct 98 11:16:28 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:16:24 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Re: Kolik caje?? X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <929F4A01CF@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Dobry den, > > > Kolik caje davate na litr vody ?? (v gramech) > > > > hodne se udava v cajovych lzickach na salek, nebo v polevkovych lzicich na > > kovnici ale jake mnozstvi je to presneji > > Ale jedina rozumna vec, co se da k tomu rici, je ze je to individualni, podle > chuti. Napriklad Darjeeling si varim silnejsi, 7 az 7,5 g na litr. > Naproti tomu velice podobny Nepal bych novackovi radeji uvaril slabsi, aby s nim > moc nezamaval. S tim naprosto souhlasim. Ja mam drevenou specialni lzicku a ani tam neni jednotne pravidlo. Zalezi i treba pro koho to delas (myslim navstevu). Proste opakovani matka moudrosti. Zkousej, zkousej zkousej...ono to prijde samo. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 6 11:17:56 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA12443 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:17:56 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA12440 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:17:55 +0200 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA24828 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:17:55 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA10808 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:17:54 +0200 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 6 Oct 98 11:17:55 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 6 Oct 98 11:17:37 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:17:32 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Rostlina X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <92A43A6EA3@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Chtel bych se zeptat, zda nekdo nevi > kde je mozne sehnat rostlinku caje k pestovani. > Zda je mozne sehnat ji zde, nebo nutne > od nekud privest. Kdyz jsem se na tohle ptal > v Dobre cajovne v Praze, zdelil mi obsluhujici > ze vyvoz cajove rostliny za hranice je ve vetsine > zemi zakazan. Mate nekdo zkusenosti s > pestovanim, nebo nevite kde by se dala sehnat? No, to by me taky moc zajimalo. Pit si vlastni caj...:-))) Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 6 11:19:04 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA12477 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:19:04 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA12474 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:19:03 +0200 Received: from okusrv.oku-cl.cz (oku-dlink-eth.clnet.cz [193.165.96.214]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA24624 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:18:58 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mojtek.oku-cl.cz (mojtek.oku-cl.cz [193.165.97.135]) by okusrv.oku-cl.cz (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA08588 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:20:30 +0200 Message-ID: <002801bdf10a$4b2c3fc0$8761a5c1@mojtek.oku-cl.cz> From: "Pavel Mojtek" To: Subject: Caj: Re: Re: Re: Kolik caje ?? Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:18:33 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Zajimaji mne zkusenosti ostatnich: 1/Jakou vodu pouzivate >na opravdu dobre caje? (v panelaku nemam totiz studnu :-) >2/ Pripravujete vodu na caj ve skelnene konvici a jak se to >osvedcuje na elektrickem varici? Chystam se totiz vyradit >svou plechovou pistalovou konev ke ktere mam osobni vztah :-) Ja pouzivam sklenenou konvici bez problemu,vidim v jakem stadiu varu je voda a nahoru misto umelohmotnyho vicka stavim konvici na caj na prohrati,ale nemyslim si ,ze by byl podstatny rozdil v cem se voda vari ,ale je mozne ze kvalitu vody ovlivni spise rychlost varu. Na otazku z jake vody spise odpovim kudy cesta nevede. Zkousel jsem varit z mineralky a bylo z toho brekeke ee. Ahoj Pavel >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 6 11:21:24 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA12527 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:21:24 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA12524 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:21:23 +0200 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA24868 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:21:22 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA10918 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:21:22 +0200 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 6 Oct 98 11:21:23 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 6 Oct 98 11:21:16 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:21:15 +100 Subject: Caj: Re: Kolik caje ?? X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <92B3C1157C@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > ~Tohle je velmi zajimave tema. Podle poslednich publikaci > ktere jsem cetl, popisuje faze varu pekne cinska cajova > bible "kniha o caji". Prvni faze tvorba bublinek ve tvaru rybich > ocek, druha vytvoreni nahrdelniku z bublinek podel obvodu, > treti - klokot a "vzpinani" vody. Doporucuje se zalevat caj > mezi druhou a treti fazi. Voda se nesmi nechat dlouho > "vzpinat" nebot se unavi. Nekde jsem se take dozvedel > ze voda se vari take z duvodu odstraneni kysliku. (??) > Zajimaji mne zkusenosti ostatnich: 1/Jakou vodu pouzivate > na opravdu dobre caje? (v panelaku nemam totiz studnu :-) > 2/ Pripravujete vodu na caj ve skelnene konvici a jak se to > osvedcuje na elektrickem varici? Chystam se totiz vyradit > svou plechovou pistalovou konev ke ktere mam osobni vztah :-) Panelakovou vodu prevaruji, kvalitni spise jen k pocatku varu. Skvele je mit kamna. Ale casto saham i po elektricke konvici...i kdyz nejzarytejsi fajnsmekri se ofrnuji. A nekteri si vodu na caj nejprve prefiltruji...coz bych klidne v Praze taky delal, ale nemam filtr. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 6 11:22:38 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA12557 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:22:38 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA12554 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:22:37 +0200 Received: from ns.felk.cvut.cz (ns.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.9]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA25235 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:22:36 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sun (sun.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.32]) by ns.felk.cvut.cz (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA23035 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:22:36 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sol24.felk.cvut.cz by sun (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13254; Tue, 6 Oct 98 11:22:41 +0200 Received: by sol24.felk.cvut.cz (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA06704; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:28:23 +0200 Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:28:23 +0200 From: xtregner@sun.felk.cvut.cz (Tregner Vaclav student 6_98_99 k336) Message-Id: <199810060928.LAA06704@sol24.felk.cvut.cz> To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Re: Kolik caje?? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Md5: 1H9BCiRvJo1zn70MUrNujA== Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Ale jedina rozumna vec, co se da k tomu rici, je ze je to individualni, podle > chuti. Napriklad Darjeeling si varim silnejsi, 7 az 7,5 g na litr. > Naproti tomu velice podobny Nepal bych novackovi radeji uvaril slabsi, aby s nim > moc nezamaval. a kolik je lzicek tech 7 g, myslim klasickou malou lzicku ? >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 6 11:25:51 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA12591 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:25:51 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA12588 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:25:50 +0200 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA25124 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:25:49 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11022 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:25:49 +0200 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 6 Oct 98 11:25:51 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 6 Oct 98 11:25:33 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:25:31 +100 Subject: Caj: Mineralka ??? X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <92C61275EF@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Na otazku z jake vody spise odpovim kudy cesta nevede. > Zkousel jsem varit z mineralky a bylo z toho brekeke ee. To je taky dobra otazka. Ja to nikdy nezkousel, ale nekdo rika, ze je to PRY dobre...na druhou stranu jsem to nikdy neslysel od zadneho znalce. A zatim jsem tu odvahu nemel. Tak sypte sve zkusenosti ci nahledy... Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 6 11:26:31 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA12612 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:26:31 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA12609 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:26:30 +0200 Received: from ns.felk.cvut.cz (ns.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.9]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA25367 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:26:29 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sun (sun.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.32]) by ns.felk.cvut.cz (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA23476 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:26:29 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sol24.felk.cvut.cz by sun (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13284; Tue, 6 Oct 98 11:26:34 +0200 Received: by sol24.felk.cvut.cz (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA06707; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:32:16 +0200 Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:32:16 +0200 From: xtregner@sun.felk.cvut.cz (Tregner Vaclav student 6_98_99 k336) Message-Id: <199810060932.LAA06707@sol24.felk.cvut.cz> To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Rostlina Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Md5: DkwYzYJ1KYxXQbtZ+jhnAA== Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > No, to by me taky moc zajimalo. Pit si vlastni caj...:-))) A da se vubec vypestovat caj v nasich podminkach? Vite o nekom kdo to zkousel? >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 6 11:26:50 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA12636 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:26:50 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA12633 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:26:49 +0200 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA25357 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:26:49 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11036 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:26:49 +0200 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 6 Oct 98 11:26:50 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 6 Oct 98 11:26:33 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:26:31 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Necaje X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <92CA504153@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > Na kyticky (a sipky obzvlast) je stejne nejlepe vyrazit po svem, ty > > sipky ani nedaji zase tak moc prace. > > > > Pavel > > Nasbirat sipky skutecne neda moc prace, problem je ale, pokud si je > clovek chce nechat na horsi casy. Suseni sipku je tak trochu umelecke > dilo, mne osobne se to moc nedari (hnednou - asi susim moc pomalu). Mmmm, je fakt, ze ja znam jen sber, suseni vzdycky obstaral nekdo jiny. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 6 11:34:48 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA12704 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:34:48 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA12701 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:34:47 +0200 Received: from mail.oku-je.cz ([195.47.23.218]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA25678 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:34:22 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from SPRAVCE [172.16.50.100] by mail.oku-je.cz (AltaVista Mail V2.0/2.0 BL23 listener) id 0000_007b_3619_e23d_7dd9; Tue, 06 Oct 1998 11:26:21 +0200 Message-ID: <009d01bdf10b$d4b8d860$643210ac@spravce> From: "=?iso-8859-2?Q?Ing._Petr_Kyjovsk=FD?=" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Rostlina Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:29:30 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id LAA12702 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz >> Chtel bych se zeptat, zda nekdo nevi >> kde je mozne sehnat rostlinku caje k pestovani. >> Zda je mozne sehnat ji zde, nebo nutne >> od nekud privest. Kdyz jsem se na tohle ptal >> v Dobre cajovne v Praze, zdelil mi obsluhujici >> ze vyvoz cajove rostliny za hranice je ve vetsine >> zemi zakazan. Mate nekdo zkusenosti s >> pestovanim, nebo nevite kde by se dala sehnat? > > No, to by me taky moc zajimalo. Pit si vlastni caj...:-))) > Ma matka mela cajovnik jako bonsai. Koupit se to tedy u nas da. Jestli je to pouzitelne nevim nezkousel jsem. Ale pestovani nebude asi jen tak. Pres veskerou (nemalou) peci dlouho nevydrzel. Petr >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 6 11:37:44 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA12752 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:37:44 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA12749 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:37:43 +0200 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA25857 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:37:43 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11354 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:37:43 +0200 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 6 Oct 98 11:37:44 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 6 Oct 98 11:37:29 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:37:26 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Rostlina X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <92F8F40F7F@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > No, to by me taky moc zajimalo. Pit si vlastni caj...:-))) > > A da se vubec vypestovat caj v nasich podminkach? Vite o nekom kdo to zkousel? Nevim o nikom, ale v jiz zminovane prozatimni ceske cajove bibli (eee...nevzpomenu si na nazev, takova do oranzova :-)) je o tom kapitolka. Ze to jde, ze nemas cekat zadny zazrak, ale je to zase hezke, mit svuj caj. Treba se z toho vyslechti Cesky zeleny cajik...cesjik. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 6 12:12:48 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA12860 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:12:48 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA12857 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:12:47 +0200 Received: from okusrv.oku-cl.cz (oku-dlink-eth.clnet.cz [193.165.96.214]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA27522 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:12:38 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mojtek.oku-cl.cz (mojtek.oku-cl.cz [193.165.97.135]) by okusrv.oku-cl.cz (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA08853 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:14:28 +0200 Message-ID: <004001bdf111$d50ed8e0$8761a5c1@mojtek.oku-cl.cz> From: "Pavel Mojtek" To: Subject: Re: Re: Caj: Necaje Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:12:32 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Na kyticky (a sipky obzvlast) je stejne nejlepe vyrazit po svem, ty >sipky ani nedaji zase tak moc prace. Kdyz u kyticek se bojim ze natrham neco jineho nez chci a sipky sbiram az premrznou na vino. >Pavel Taky Pavel >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 6 12:14:34 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA12899 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:14:34 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA12896 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:14:33 +0200 Received: from gate.hob.cz (gate.hob.cz [193.179.115.19]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA27500 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:14:29 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by gate.hob.cz (8.8.2/8.8.2) id MAA20642 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:14:20 +0200 Received: from primus.hob.cz(172.21.1.16) by gate.hob.cz via smap (V2.1) id xma020635; Tue, 6 Oct 98 12:13:50 +0200 Received: by primus.hob.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:14:51 +0200 Message-ID: From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?H=E1jek_Ctirad?= To: "'caj@dione.zcu.cz'" Subject: Caj: RE: Mineralka ??? Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:14:49 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id MAA12897 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Podle mych zkusenosti je caj chutnejsi, kdyz je voda mekci, tedy obsahuje mene mineralu. Nekde (chata) je voda tak zmineralizovana, ze caj vytvori slupku cerne barvy na ciste vode. Ctirad > ---------- > Odesílatel: Pavel Hlavacek[SMTP:HLAVACEK@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz] > Odpovědi: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Odesláno: 6. října 1998 13:25 > Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Předmět: Caj: Mineralka ??? > > > Na otazku z jake vody spise odpovim kudy cesta nevede. > > Zkousel jsem varit z mineralky a bylo z toho brekeke ee. > > To je taky dobra otazka. Ja to nikdy nezkousel, ale nekdo rika, ze je > to PRY dobre...na druhou stranu jsem to nikdy neslysel od zadneho znalce. > A zatim jsem tu odvahu nemel. Tak sypte sve zkusenosti ci nahledy... > > Pavel > > > mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz > http://geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek > >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 6 12:31:19 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA12999 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:31:19 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA12996 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:31:18 +0200 Received: from sun.fsid.cvut.cz (sun.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA28056 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:31:17 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from student.fsid.cvut.cz (student.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.3]) by sun.fsid.cvut.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA20053 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 10:31:16 GMT Received: from FSICD1/SpoolDir by student.fsid.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.21); 6 Oct 98 12:31:17 MET-1MEST Received: from SpoolDir by FSICD1 (Mercury 1.21); 6 Oct 98 12:30:57 MET-1MEST From: "Jan Kasparek, student" Organization: FSI CVUT, Prague To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:30:56 MET-1MEST Subject: Caj: Rostlina cajovniku X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-ID: Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz No presne nevim, kde by se dala sehnat, ale v uvahu pripada botanicka zahrada (sveho casu se tam treba sehnat bambus) nebo si hlidat inzeraty. Jednou jsem jeden zahledl a v nem prave nabizeli ruzne cizokrajne rostliny (myrta, eukalypt atd.) a taky cajovnik. Kontakt jsem uz bohuzel ztratil, sorry. STRAKA ___________________________________ Kasparek Jan, student Czech Technical Univerzity, Prague Faculty of Mechanical Engineering Spec: Biomedical and rehabilitation engineering E-mail: kasparek@student.fsid.cvut.cz Would you like to have pen-friends? Visit http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 6 12:51:15 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA13179 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:51:15 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA13176 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:51:14 +0200 From: LToman@zivpo.cz Received: from zp999a.zivpo.cz (ms.zivpo.cz [195.146.106.228]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA28617 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:51:13 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by ZP999A with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id <4BVWKH1X>; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:51:04 +0200 Message-ID: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A39A42F2D@PUEX1C1> To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: RE: Re: Caj: Necaje Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:50:58 +0200 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > Na kyticky (a sipky obzvlast) je stejne nejlepe vyrazit > po svem, ty > >sipky ani nedaji zase tak moc prace. > > > Kdyz u kyticek se bojim ze natrham neco jineho nez chci a > sipky sbiram az premrznou na vino. Dalsi moznosti je sehnat si susic fseho moznyho... Mam s tim pomerne dobre zkusenosti... Je u toho i dost podrobny navod... Galenius >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 6 12:59:05 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA13325 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:59:05 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA13322 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:59:04 +0200 Received: from ns.felk.cvut.cz (ns.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.9]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA29150 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:59:03 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sun (sun.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.32]) by ns.felk.cvut.cz (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA02008 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:58:59 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sol21.felk.cvut.cz by sun (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14002; Tue, 6 Oct 98 12:59:04 +0200 Received: by sol21.felk.cvut.cz (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA25391; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 13:06:54 +0200 Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 13:06:54 +0200 From: xtregner@sun.felk.cvut.cz (Tregner Vaclav student 6_98_99 k336) Message-Id: <199810061106.NAA25391@sol21.felk.cvut.cz> To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: RE: Mineralka ??? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Md5: arYA07i3llN38tl2WQGECA== Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Podle mych zkusenosti je caj chutnejsi, kdyz je voda mekci, tedy > obsahuje mene mineralu. > Nekde (chata) je voda tak zmineralizovana, ze caj vytvori slupku cerne barvy > na ciste vode. U nas je voda taky hodne tvrda (ze studne) a obcas se mi stava ze na povrchu se vytvori jakysi povlak (hlavne kdyz udelam caj silnejsi), muze to byt zpusobeno prave tou tvrdosti vody? Nezkouseli jste delat caj treba z neperlivy Dobry vody? To by mohlo bejt docela dobry ne? >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 6 13:14:57 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA13447 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 13:14:57 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA13444 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 13:14:56 +0200 Received: from sun.fsid.cvut.cz (sun.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA29738 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 13:14:56 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from student.fsid.cvut.cz (student.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.3]) by sun.fsid.cvut.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA21086 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:14:55 GMT Received: from FSICD1/SpoolDir by student.fsid.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.21); 6 Oct 98 13:14:56 MET-1MEST Received: from SpoolDir by FSICD1 (Mercury 1.21); 6 Oct 98 13:14:43 MET-1MEST From: "Jan Kasparek, student" Organization: FSI CVUT, Prague To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 13:14:35 MET-1MEST Subject: Caj: Voda na caj a ostatni X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-ID: Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Souhlasim samozrejme s tim, ze zavisi na vode i zpusobu ohrevu stejne jako na nalade s jakou si kdo caj pripravuje. Jako ve vsem jde o tu materialni stranku pripravy, za kterou se vsak ukryva ta vyssi na kterou bychom take nemeli zapominat....... (viz cajovy obrad). Nekdy si vozim vodu z prirody, nejcasteji treba od Jilovske vodarny, kde je opravdu kvalitni. Muzu potvrdit, ze se to na kvalite caje odrazi. Co se tyce nadoby na vareni, tezko rict, zda se kovove nadoby daji jednoznacne odsoudit, treba takova nerez konvice....... Ale sklo je zrejme nejprijatelnejsi. Jeste jednou k cajovemu obradu: pri nem se pouziva tezka, litinova nadoba. STRAKA ___________________________________ Kasparek Jan, student Czech Technical Univerzity, Prague Faculty of Mechanical Engineering Spec: Biomedical and rehabilitation engineering E-mail: kasparek@student.fsid.cvut.cz Would you like to have pen-friends? Visit http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 6 13:55:47 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA13723 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 13:55:47 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA13720 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 13:55:46 +0200 Received: from okusrv.oku-cl.cz (oku-dlink-eth.clnet.cz [193.165.96.214]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA31151 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 13:55:42 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mojtek.oku-cl.cz (mojtek.oku-cl.cz [193.165.97.135]) by okusrv.oku-cl.cz (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA09319 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 13:57:32 +0200 Message-ID: <001501bdf120$39a36920$8761a5c1@mojtek.oku-cl.cz> From: "Pavel Mojtek" To: Subject: Re: Caj: RE: Mineralka ??? Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 13:55:33 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz >U nas je voda taky hodne tvrda (ze studne) a obcas se mi stava ze na povrchu se >vytvori jakysi povlak (hlavne kdyz udelam caj silnejsi), muze to byt zpusobeno >prave tou tvrdosti vody? No to bude asi ono ,to se mi prave stalo kdyz jsem varil jiz zminovany caj z mineralky. Ahoj Pavel >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 6 14:15:00 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA13848 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 14:15:00 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA13845 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 14:14:59 +0200 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA31801 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 14:14:58 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA15367 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 14:14:58 +0200 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 6 Oct 98 14:14:59 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 6 Oct 98 14:14:54 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 14:14:53 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Voda na caj a ostatni X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <9598B44A86@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Nekdy si vozim vodu z prirody, nejcasteji treba od Jilovske vodarny, Muzes to upresnit, to misto ? Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 6 15:40:39 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA14046 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 15:40:39 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA14043 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 15:40:38 +0200 Received: from localhost. (ns.speed.cz [212.20.64.94]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA01889 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 15:40:36 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pc by localhost. (8.8.4/SMI-SVR4) id JAA14589; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 09:29:27 -0400 Message-Id: <199810061329.JAA14589@localhost.> From: "Bent" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Vicenalevovy. Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 13:13:42 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id PAA14044 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Zajimali by mne postupy jak pripravujete vicenalevovy zeleny caj. Piju spise cerne a tohle jsem jeste nezkousel. Odbornici tvrdi, ze druhy a treti nalev je lepsi nez prvni (napr. u zelene Barmy bych tomu jiste veril). Chtel bych si udelat vice nalevu doma. ale jak? Zaleji prvni nalev, (po x minutach louhovani) sleji. Na listky naleji dalsi vodu, ale kdyz se vylouhuji nebudu mit prvni konev jeste vypitou. Treti nalev uz vubec nebudu mit kam dat (ledy bych pozval sousedy z celeho patra :-). Delate si tedy neco takoveho, pro jednu osobu? Musi byt vetsi spolecnost, nebo pri dalsich nezalezi na dobe louhovani? Snad to chce mensi konev,ale presto. Vypit caj na ex do 3-5 min.? Pokud ma nekdo zkusenost, poradte pro zeleny Vietnam i s casy. Diky Michael. >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 6 15:40:40 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA14056 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 15:40:40 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA14048 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 15:40:39 +0200 Received: from localhost. (ns.speed.cz [212.20.64.94]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA01813 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 15:40:34 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pc by localhost. (8.8.4/SMI-SVR4) id JAA16633; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 09:29:24 -0400 Message-Id: <199810061329.JAA16633@localhost.> From: "Bent" To: Subject: Re: Caj: RE: Mineralka ??? Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:49:23 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id PAA14049 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz ---------- > Odesílatel: Tregner Vaclav student 6_98_99 k336 > Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Předmět: Re: Caj: RE: Mineralka ??? > Datum: 6. října 1998 12:06 > > > Podle mych zkusenosti je caj chutnejsi, kdyz je voda mekci, tedy > > obsahuje mene mineralu. > > Nekde (chata) je voda tak zmineralizovana, ze caj vytvori slupku cerne barvy > > na ciste vode. > > U nas je voda taky hodne tvrda (ze studne) a obcas se mi stava ze na povrchu se > vytvori jakysi povlak (hlavne kdyz udelam caj silnejsi), muze to byt zpusobeno > prave tou tvrdosti vody? > Nezkouseli jste delat caj treba z neperlivy Dobry vody? To by mohlo bejt docela > dobry ne? Povlak na hladine uvarene vody (znamy kakaovy skraloup :-) vytvari prave hodne mineralizovana voda. Mam s tim zkusenost z chaty, kde vlastni studnu mam. Cela oblast lezi na mineralizovanem bridlicovem podlozi. Pri zalevani caje se zpocatku vytvori na povrchu vody pena a po vychladnuti tvrdsi slupka. Chuti caje to moc neprida (resp. chutna jinak nez z vodovodni vody). Stejny problem jsem mel na dovolene v Chorvatsku, muj oblibeny Golden Nepal chutnal uplne jinak. Nekde jsem se docetl, ze nejlepsi voda je se strednim PH. Tedy ani meka ani tvrda. Zkouseli jste Bonaqvu, nebo Dobrou vodu? Chtel bych zkusit test PH indikatorem. Jo a jeste jedna vec. Zda se mi, ze pri vice mineralizovane vode, klesne caj pri louhovani rychleji ke dnu (cca po 1min.) >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 6 16:07:05 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA14186 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 16:07:05 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA14183 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 16:07:04 +0200 Received: from kiv.zcu.cz (ur404p01-rek.rek.zcu.cz [147.228.71.108]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA02762 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 16:07:04 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <361A3210.CDF18464@kiv.zcu.cz> Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 16:06:56 +0100 From: Pavel Baxa Organization: ZCU Plzen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Re: Mineralka ??? References: <199810061329.JAA16633@localhost.> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Bent wrote: > > Nekde jsem se docetl, ze nejlepsi voda je se strednim PH. > Tedy ani meka ani tvrda. Zkouseli jste Bonaqvu, > nebo Dobrou vodu? Chtel bych zkusit test PH indikatorem. Nechci rejpat, ale nemuzu si pomoct. Stredni pH je skutecne pro vodu typicke. Destilovana voda ma pH=7, stupnice pH je od 0 do 14, jestli se nepletu, hihihi! Nicmene voda, ktera NEMA stredni pH, muze byt budto KYSELA nebo ZASADITA. To neni totez jako tvrda a mekka, pozor na to! Pavel Baxa >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 6 16:46:07 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA14327 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 16:46:07 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA14324 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 16:46:06 +0200 Received: from ns.felk.cvut.cz (ns.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.9]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA04668 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 16:46:06 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sun (sun.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.32]) by ns.felk.cvut.cz (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA25713 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 16:46:06 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sol26.felk.cvut.cz by sun (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15936; Tue, 6 Oct 98 16:46:11 +0200 Received: by sol26.felk.cvut.cz (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA11022; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 16:41:48 +0200 Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 16:41:48 +0200 From: xtregner@sun.felk.cvut.cz (Tregner Vaclav student 6_98_99 k336) Message-Id: <199810061441.QAA11022@sol26.felk.cvut.cz> To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Vicenalevovy. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Md5: YDIldc7Vj5rO1tJpHXYO2Q== Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Zajimali by mne postupy jak pripravujete vicenalevovy > zeleny caj. Piju spise cerne a tohle jsem jeste nezkousel. > Odbornici tvrdi, ze druhy a treti nalev je lepsi nez prvni > (napr. u zelene Barmy bych tomu jiste veril). Chtel bych > si udelat vice nalevu doma. ale jak? > Zaleji prvni nalev, (po x minutach louhovani) sleji. > Na listky naleji dalsi vodu, ale kdyz se vylouhuji > nebudu mit prvni konev jeste vypitou. Nebudes listky zalejvat okamzite ale az vypijes prvni nalev. Tak to delaj v cajovne co sem videl. Nadobku v ktery zustanou vylouhovany listky akorat bys mel uzavrit aby listky nevycichly. Z toho plyne, ze potrebujes 2 nadoby - konvicku z ktery caj pijes a druhou v ktery caj louhujes. Vasek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 6 16:52:53 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA14375 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 16:52:53 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA14372 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 16:52:52 +0200 Received: from ns.felk.cvut.cz (ns.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.9]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA04666 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 16:52:52 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sun (sun.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.32]) by ns.felk.cvut.cz (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA26255 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 16:52:51 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sol26.felk.cvut.cz by sun (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16001; Tue, 6 Oct 98 16:52:56 +0200 Received: by sol26.felk.cvut.cz (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA11032; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 16:48:33 +0200 Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 16:48:33 +0200 From: xtregner@sun.felk.cvut.cz (Tregner Vaclav student 6_98_99 k336) Message-Id: <199810061448.QAA11032@sol26.felk.cvut.cz> To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Nakupy Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Md5: WK0kdrqMRhzB+hTQbCkTeA== Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz 1. Zajimalo by me, kde nakupujete caj do zasoby na doma, jaky je vas nejoblibenejsi obchudek/cajovna (v Praze). 2. Pijete radi ochuceny caje nebo davate prednost cistejm cajum? 3. Mozna jste uz takovyhle veci probirali, ale ja jsem tady novej vcera prihlasenej, takze sorry. Dik Vasek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 6 17:03:04 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA14450 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 17:03:04 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA14447 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 17:03:03 +0200 Received: from fw.pvt.cz (fw.pvt.cz [194.149.101.194]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA05672 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 17:03:01 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by fw.pvt.cz; (5.65v4.0/1.3/10May95) id AA24175; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 17:02:39 +0200 Received: from p70w12.brn.pvt.cz (p70w12.brn.pvt.cz [172.17.41.62]) by mh.pvt.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA13223 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 17:02:27 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from brn.pvt.cz (petrbm.brn.pvt.cz [172.17.41.210]) by p70w12.brn.pvt.cz with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.1960.3) id 41PWXGQ0; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 17:02:34 +0200 Message-Id: <361A30D2.848123C2@brn.pvt.cz> Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 17:01:38 +0200 From: Petr Buchmaier X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Cajovy obrad References: <199810061448.QAA11032@sol26.felk.cvut.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Dobry den kamaradka pracuje v jednm relaxacnim centru a chteli by lidem predvest cajovy obrad. Poradite mi nekoho, kdo by mohl cajovy obrad predvest, pripadne udelat prednasku ?? diky za info Petr Buchmaier >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 6 20:36:18 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA14874 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 20:36:18 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA14871 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 20:36:17 +0200 Received: from ns.mas.cz (root@ns.mas.cz [194.212.135.2]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA13545 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 20:36:15 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from cigi.mas.cz (p0l3h1.mas.cz [194.212.135.142]) by ns.mas.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA07020 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 20:36:12 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <00ce01bdf161$caa87000$8e87d4c2@cigi.mas.cz> From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?VuFjbGF2IENpa+Fu?=" To: Subject: Caj: cajovnik Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 20:43:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz cajovnik se da poridit bez problemu na adrese: Subtropicke zahradnictvi KRUH Pavel Beran Roztoky u Jilemnice pokud ale vim, tak je potreba si prijet osobne. Pokusy s pestovanim caje v Cechach byly a to konkretne v botanickem muzeu v Olomouci, tusim ze to mel na starosti pan Tlustak. Jak to ovsem dopadlo to nevim. Tehdejsi cajovnik pochazel z Assamu. Vaclav Cikan tea-mail: cigi@cajovna.cz Cajovy List: www.cajovna.cz >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 6 21:14:09 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA14957 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 21:14:09 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA14954 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 21:14:08 +0200 Received: from ns.brailcom.cz (root@ns.brailcom.cz [195.212.199.66]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA14237 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 21:14:06 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from bambuch (d1.brailcom.cz [195.212.199.142]) by ns.brailcom.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA04361 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 21:13:52 +0200 Message-Id: <199810061913.VAA04361@ns.brailcom.cz> From: "Pavol Halaj" To: Subject: Caj: Rostlinka Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 21:18:48 +0200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id VAA14955 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ahoj všichni, jsem také nově přihlášený a jsem velice rád, že je v této konferenci čilá diskuse. Co se týče rostlinky čajovníku, viděl jsem ji prodávat v Litoměřicích na Zahradě Čech letos v září. Ale mám pocit, že se také objevila na Flóře Olomouc v letošním roce. Sám také zvažuji koupit si ji, mám ale problém z nedostatkem světla pro pěstování, pokud jsem správne informován, čajovník potřebuje docela dost světla. Chtěl bych se také zeptat zda někdo ví něco o žlutých čajích a zda je možné někde je sehnat. Co se týče čajových obřadů je možné kontaktovat se s pí. Darjou Kawasumi, která pořádá některou sobotu v měsíci tyto obřady. Je to v restauraci Myabi na Praze 1 (nevím zda je jméno restaurace napsáno správně jedno y druhé i), ale ve Zlatých stránkách tato restaurace je uvedena. Děkuji Paľo >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Wed Oct 7 08:15:21 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA15829 for caj-outgoing; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:15:21 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA15826 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:15:20 +0200 Received: from okusrv.oku-cl.cz (oku-dlink-eth.clnet.cz [193.165.96.214]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA19139 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:15:09 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mojtek.oku-cl.cz (mojtek.oku-cl.cz [193.165.97.135]) by okusrv.oku-cl.cz (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA03188 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:15:08 +0200 Message-ID: <003a01bdf1b9$ce50fda0$8761a5c1@mojtek.oku-cl.cz> From: "Pavel Mojtek" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Vicenalevovy. Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:14:55 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz >Zajimali by mne postupy jak pripravujete vicenalevovy >zeleny caj. Piju spise cerne a tohle jsem jeste nezkousel. >Odbornici tvrdi, ze druhy a treti nalev je lepsi nez prvni >(napr. u zelene Barmy bych tomu jiste veril). Chtel bych >si udelat vice nalevu doma. ale jak? >Zaleji prvni nalev, (po x minutach louhovani) sleji. >Na listky naleji dalsi vodu, ale kdyz se vylouhuji >nebudu mit prvni konev jeste vypitou. Treti nalev uz vubec >nebudu mit kam dat (ledy bych pozval sousedy z celeho >patra :-). Delate si tedy neco takoveho, >pro jednu osobu? Musi byt vetsi spolecnost, nebo pri dalsich >nezalezi na dobe louhovani? Snad to chce mensi konev,ale >presto. Vypit caj na ex do 3-5 min.? Pokud ma nekdo >zkusenost, poradte pro zeleny Vietnam i s casy. >Diky Michael. No myslim ,ze hledas slozitost kde nejni.Na dalsi nalev je IMHO potreba teplejsi vodu nez na predchozi,takze stejne musim ohrat novou vodu,proto neni potreba s pitim caje spechat(coz je horsi prohresek proti cajetikete, nez si varit PIGI). Taky nesmis zapomenout ,ze nektere caje se pro vice nalevu nedaji pouzit.Jedna firma co ma cenik na Inetu ma jasne oznacene vicenalevove caje. Ahoj Pavel >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Wed Oct 7 08:19:59 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA15936 for caj-outgoing; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:19:59 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA15933 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:19:58 +0200 From: LToman@zivpo.cz Received: from zp999a.zivpo.cz (ms.zivpo.cz [195.146.106.228]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA19180 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:19:57 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by ZP999A with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id <4BVWKHLR>; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:19:48 +0200 Message-ID: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A39A42F31@PUEX1C1> To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: RE: Caj: Vicenalevovy. Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:19:46 +0200 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > >Zajimali by mne postupy jak pripravujete vicenalevovy > >zeleny caj. Piju spise cerne a tohle jsem jeste nezkousel. > >Odbornici tvrdi, ze druhy a treti nalev je lepsi nez prvni > >(napr. u zelene Barmy bych tomu jiste veril). Chtel bych > >si udelat vice nalevu doma. ale jak? > >Zaleji prvni nalev, (po x minutach louhovani) sleji. > >Na listky naleji dalsi vodu, ale kdyz se vylouhuji > >nebudu mit prvni konev jeste vypitou. Treti nalev uz vubec > >nebudu mit kam dat (ledy bych pozval sousedy z celeho > >patra :-). Delate si tedy neco takoveho, > >pro jednu osobu? Musi byt vetsi spolecnost, nebo pri dalsich > >nezalezi na dobe louhovani? Snad to chce mensi konev,ale > >presto. Vypit caj na ex do 3-5 min.? Pokud ma nekdo > >zkusenost, poradte pro zeleny Vietnam i s casy. > >Diky Michael. > > No myslim ,ze hledas slozitost kde nejni.Na dalsi nalev > je IMHO potreba teplejsi vodu nez na predchozi,takze stejne musim > ohrat novou vodu,proto neni potreba s pitim caje spechat(coz je > horsi prohresek proti cajetikete, nez si varit PIGI). > Taky nesmis zapomenout ,ze nektere caje se pro > vice nalevu nedaji pouzit.Jedna firma co ma cenik > na Inetu ma jasne oznacene vicenalevove caje. Ktera firma? Hod URL... Dik... Galenius >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Wed Oct 7 08:20:38 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA15965 for caj-outgoing; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:20:38 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA15962 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:20:37 +0200 Received: from okusrv.oku-cl.cz (oku-dlink-eth.clnet.cz [193.165.96.214]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA19238 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:20:30 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mojtek.oku-cl.cz (mojtek.oku-cl.cz [193.165.97.135]) by okusrv.oku-cl.cz (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA03211 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:20:39 +0200 Message-ID: <004901bdf1ba$92f0af20$8761a5c1@mojtek.oku-cl.cz> From: "Pavel Mojtek" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Vicenalevovy. Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:20:26 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz >uzavrit aby listky nevycichly. Z toho plyne, ze potrebujes 2 nadoby - konvicku z ktery caj pijes a druhou v ktery caj louhujes. > Vasek To je potreba snad vzdy.I kdyz jsem v nouzi louhoval caj ze ktereho jsem posleze pil a bylo pekne sledovat celou skalu chuti jak se meni s delkou zivota caje ve vode. Ahoj Pavel >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Wed Oct 7 08:31:37 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA16147 for caj-outgoing; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:31:37 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA16144 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:31:36 +0200 Received: from inext.inext.cz (inext.inext.cz [195.75.71.10]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA19390 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:31:35 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from inext.inext.cz ([195.75.71.10]) by inext.inext.cz (Netscape Mail Server v1.1) with SMTP id AAA183 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:34:26 +0100 Received: from (asvs07t.inext.cz [194.228.56.47]) by inext.inext.cz with SMTP (MailShield v1.10 beta 1); Wed, 07 Oct 1998 08:34:26 +0200 From: "Linka duvery Vsetin" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Vicenalevovy. Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:22:57 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Message-ID: <19981007073426932.AAA183@inext.inext.cz> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id IAA16145 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > Zajimali by mne postupy jak pripravujete vicenalevovy > zeleny caj. Piju spise cerne a tohle jsem jeste nezkousel. > Odbornici tvrdi, ze druhy a treti nalev je lepsi nez prvni > (napr. u zelene Barmy bych tomu jiste veril). Chtel bych > si udelat vice nalevu doma. ale jak? > Zaleji prvni nalev, (po x minutach louhovani) sleji. > Na listky naleji dalsi vodu, ale kdyz se vylouhuji > nebudu mit prvni konev jeste vypitou. Treti nalev uz vubec > nebudu mit kam dat (ledy bych pozval sousedy z celeho > patra :-). Delate si tedy neco takoveho, > pro jednu osobu? Musi byt vetsi spolecnost, nebo pri dalsich > nezalezi na dobe louhovani? Snad to chce mensi konev,ale > presto. Vypit caj na ex do 3-5 min.? Pokud ma nekdo > zkusenost, poradte pro zeleny Vietnam i s casy. > Diky Michael. > Mam pritele Vietnamce, ktery mne naucil tento postup: Mala konvicka (asi 0.2-0.3 l) se naplni do poloviny zelenym Vietnam cajem, zalije se varici vodou, nalev ne nesliva, ale rovnou rozliva do malinkych (asi pul deci) salku, nalev se zprvu zda priserne trpky a nesnesitelny (opravdu priserne), ale po chvilce caj v ustech sladne (ten pocit opravdu stoji za to). Do konvicky se vlije dalsi varici voda, postup se muze opakovat nekolikrat dle potreby. Doporucuji vsak pouze pro pokrocile :-) nebo pro zacatecnika, ktereho chcete do konce zivota od caje odradit. Michal >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Wed Oct 7 08:33:04 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA16179 for caj-outgoing; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:33:04 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA16176 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:33:03 +0200 Received: from okusrv.oku-cl.cz (oku-dlink-eth.clnet.cz [193.165.96.214]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA18803 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:33:00 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mojtek.oku-cl.cz (mojtek.oku-cl.cz [193.165.97.135]) by okusrv.oku-cl.cz (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA03272 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:33:11 +0200 Message-ID: <006a01bdf1bc$53294080$8761a5c1@mojtek.oku-cl.cz> From: "Pavel Mojtek" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Vicenalevovy. Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:32:58 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > vice nalevu nedaji pouzit.Jedna firma co ma cenik >> na Inetu ma jasne oznacene vicenalevove caje. > >Ktera firma? Hod URL... Dik... > > Galenius No nechtel jsem to sem davat ,aby to nebylo brano jako komerce, ale budiz http://www.caj.cz/cenik.htm Ahoj Pavel >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Wed Oct 7 09:36:57 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA16499 for caj-outgoing; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:36:57 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA16496 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:36:57 +0200 Received: from mail.oku-je.cz ([195.47.23.218]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA21380 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:36:49 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from KAFKOVA [172.16.50.24] (HELO jkafkova) by mail.oku-je.cz (AltaVista Mail V2.0/2.0 BL23 listener) id 0000_007b_361b_1822_b418; Wed, 07 Oct 1998 09:28:34 +0200 Message-ID: <005e01bdf1cc$f7410da0$183210ac@jkafkova> From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jana_Kafkov=E1?=" To: Subject: Caj: Re: cajovnik Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:31:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id JAA16497 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Podle literatury lze cajovnik pestovat i v nasich podminkach. Nejvhodejsi jsou pry cajovniky z cinske skupiny (subtropicke klima) vzhledem k nizkym narokum na teplo. Snese poklesy teplot vzduchu do -13 st.C a pri dostatecne snehove pokryvce i do -25 st.C. Neni ale problem jej pestovat i v nadobach. Je to ker a dorusta do 3 m vysky. Cajovniky s asamske skupiny (tropicke klima) poklesem pod -4 st.C se poskozuji. Nevim. Prakticke zkusenosti nemam, ale diky za adresu, pokusim se o pokus. Jana -----Původní zpráva----- Od: Václav Cikán Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz Datum: 6. října 1998 19:30 Předmět: Caj: cajovnik >cajovnik se da poridit bez problemu na adrese: >Subtropicke zahradnictvi KRUH >Pavel Beran >Roztoky u Jilemnice >pokud ale vim, tak je potreba si prijet osobne. Pokusy s pestovanim caje v >Cechach byly a to konkretne v botanickem muzeu v Olomouci, tusim ze to mel >na starosti pan Tlustak. Jak to ovsem dopadlo to nevim. Tehdejsi cajovnik >pochazel z Assamu. > >Vaclav Cikan >tea-mail: cigi@cajovna.cz >Cajovy List: www.cajovna.cz > > >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Wed Oct 7 10:02:28 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA16689 for caj-outgoing; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:02:28 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA16686 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:02:27 +0200 Received: from eryx1.zcu.cz (eryx1.zcu.cz [147.228.52.12]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA22014 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:02:26 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from nymph3 (ul407p14-kiv.fav.zcu.cz [147.228.63.163]) by eryx1.zcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA16550 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:02:26 +0200 (MET DST) From: "Demeter Jurista" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Vicenalevovy. Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 03:02:24 -0500 Message-ID: <01bdf1c8$d1565090$a33fe493@nymph3.zcu.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz >Zajimali by mne postupy jak pripravujete vicenalevovy >zeleny caj. Piju spise cerne a tohle jsem jeste nezkousel. >Odbornici tvrdi, ze druhy a treti nalev je lepsi nez prvni >(napr. u zelene Barmy bych tomu jiste veril). Chtel bych >si udelat vice nalevu doma. ale jak? Zdravim vsechny... pokud si vzpominam dobre (netvrdim, ze je to sprevne) tak jsem vzdy pri vareni caje, ktery se da zalit vicekrat pouzil nasledujici postup: Udelal jsem prvni nalev, ten by se mel radsi vylit, ale cloveku je to tak nejak lito, takze to neudela a vypije ho (caj nechavam stale v hrnku, kdyz voda vychladne, uz se nic moc nelouhuje). Pak udelam dalsi nalev a zase necham caj v hrnku. Druhy nalev je opravdu lepsi. Pro vytrvalce je mozne zalit jeste jednou, me osobne chutna treti nalev nejvice. Dalsi kolo uz jsem nezkousel, vecer se nachylil a ja jsem chtel jeste taky spat :-) Pokud jde o druhy caju, ktere jsem takto zkousel byly to Draci Oci a cajova ruze (nekdy tez Strawberry Tea). Mita DJ >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Wed Oct 7 11:27:21 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA16974 for caj-outgoing; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:27:21 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA16971 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:27:21 +0200 Received: from sun.fsid.cvut.cz (sun.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA24648 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:27:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from student.fsid.cvut.cz (student.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.3]) by sun.fsid.cvut.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA08829 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:27:15 GMT Received: from FSICD1/SpoolDir by student.fsid.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.21); 7 Oct 98 11:27:15 MET-1MEST Received: from SpoolDir by FSICD1 (Mercury 1.21); 7 Oct 98 11:26:53 MET-1MEST From: "Jan Kasparek, student" Organization: FSI CVUT, Prague To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:26:43 MET-1MEST Subject: Re: Caj: Cajovy obrad X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-ID: Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Dobry den > > kamaradka pracuje v jednm relaxacnim centru a chteli by lidem predvest cajovy > obrad. > > Poradite mi nekoho, kdo by mohl cajovy obrad predvest, pripadne udelat prednasku > ?? > Jedinou osobou o ktere vim, ze studovala cajovy obrad v Japonsku je "vedouci/majitelka, cajovny/jap. restaurace" Miyabi v Praze. Mimo jine ho taky predvadela loni na prazskem hrade pri prilezitosti tydne jap. kultury v Praze. Bohuzel nevim jak se jmenuje, ale pokud si zajdete do Miyabi, urcite vam kontakt daji. Problem je, ze nevim jak se jmenuje ta ulice, kde se Miyabi nachazi. Myslim ze Ostrovni. Je to mezi Karlovym namestim a Vodickovou ulici. Takze pokud vite nekdo z hlavy tu ulici, popripade jiny kontakt, dejte vedet. STRAKA ___________________________________ Kasparek Jan, student Czech Technical Univerzity, Prague Faculty of Mechanical Engineering Spec: Biomedical and rehabilitation engineering E-mail: kasparek@student.fsid.cvut.cz Would you like to have pen-friends? Visit http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Wed Oct 7 11:37:52 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA17025 for caj-outgoing; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:37:52 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA17022 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:37:52 +0200 Received: from sun.fsid.cvut.cz (sun.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA25125 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:37:51 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from student.fsid.cvut.cz (student.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.3]) by sun.fsid.cvut.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA09143 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:37:50 GMT Received: from FSICD1/SpoolDir by student.fsid.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.21); 7 Oct 98 11:37:51 MET-1MEST Received: from SpoolDir by FSICD1 (Mercury 1.21); 7 Oct 98 11:37:27 MET-1MEST From: "Jan Kasparek, student" Organization: FSI CVUT, Prague To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:37:24 MET-1MEST Subject: Re: Caj: Nakupy X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-ID: Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > 1. Zajimalo by me, kde nakupujete caj do zasoby na doma, jaky je vas > nejoblibenejsi obchudek/cajovna (v Praze). No, obvykle caje vetsinou v Dobrych cajovnach, ovocne, michane, smesi, ovonene atd. treba v Ruzove. Prej je ted dobra prodejna ve Vinohradskem pavilonu, ale nebyl jsem tam. Mam ale odtamtud caj kouzelna fletna a je spica. > 2. Pijete radi ochuceny caje nebo davate prednost cistejm cajum? Ja mam nejradeji caje zelene japonske, ale piju i ochucene. Napr. Earl Grey, Irsky krem aj. Myslim si, ze se neda zamerit na jeden typ caje, protoze nalada a atmosfera je pokazde jina. Napr. v zime na chate u krbu dam prednost slazene Snehove vlocce pred Senchou. STRAKA __________________________________ Jan Straka Kasparek E-mail: kasparek@student.fsid.cvut.cz http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek Pozvanka pro cajomilce: http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek/tea.htm >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Wed Oct 7 11:38:13 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA17044 for caj-outgoing; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:38:13 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA17041 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:38:13 +0200 Received: from fw.pvt.cz (fw.pvt.cz [194.149.101.194]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA25141 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:38:11 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by fw.pvt.cz; (5.65v4.0/1.3/10May95) id AA04258; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:37:46 +0200 Received: from p70w12.brn.pvt.cz (p70w12.brn.pvt.cz [172.17.41.62]) by mh.pvt.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA25074 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:37:34 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from brn.pvt.cz (petrbm.brn.pvt.cz [172.17.41.210]) by p70w12.brn.pvt.cz with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.1960.3) id 41PWXH1C; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:37:42 +0200 Message-Id: <361B362C.4A2FDD4F@brn.pvt.cz> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 11:36:44 +0200 From: Petr Buchmaier X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Cajovy obrad References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Dekuji za informace, uz jsem to nasel je to skutecne Miyabi v Navratilove ulici. Jsem zde novy (cca 14 dnu) a chtel jsem se zeptat jaka existuje v cechach psana literatura o caji ?? Ja znam knihu Okouzlujici vune caje a nejake clanky v knihach Zen o cajovm obradu Petr Buchmaier > Jedinou osobou o ktere vim, ze studovala cajovy obrad v Japonsku je > "vedouci/majitelka, cajovny/jap. restaurace" Miyabi v Praze. Mimo jine > ho taky predvadela loni na prazskem hrade pri prilezitosti tydne jap. > kultury v Praze. Bohuzel nevim jak se jmenuje, ale pokud si zajdete > do Miyabi, urcite vam kontakt daji. Problem je, ze nevim jak se > jmenuje ta ulice, kde se Miyabi nachazi. Myslim ze Ostrovni. Je to > mezi Karlovym namestim a Vodickovou ulici. Takze pokud vite nekdo z > hlavy tu ulici, popripade jiny kontakt, dejte vedet. > > STRAKA > ___________________________________ > Kasparek Jan, student > Czech Technical Univerzity, Prague > Faculty of Mechanical Engineering > Spec: Biomedical and rehabilitation engineering > E-mail: kasparek@student.fsid.cvut.cz > > Would you like to have pen-friends? > Visit http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek -- Petr Buchmaier -------------------------------------------------------------- Petr Buchmaier PVT a.s Privat: Veveri 102 P.O.Box 114 659 10, Brno 601 00, Brno Czech Republic Czech Republic Voice: +420-5-41558 399 Mobil: +420-603-20 81 81 Fax: +420-5-41211138 mailto:buchm@brn.pvt.cz mailto:buchmaier@hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------- >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Wed Oct 7 13:02:57 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA17278 for caj-outgoing; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:02:57 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA17275 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:02:55 +0200 From: LToman@zivpo.cz Received: from zp999a.zivpo.cz (ms.zivpo.cz [195.146.106.228]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA27471 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:02:55 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by ZP999A with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id <4BVWKHQ5>; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:02:52 +0200 Message-ID: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A39A42F41@PUEX1C1> To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: RE: Caj: Cajovy obrad Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:02:49 +0200 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Jsem zde novy (cca 14 dnu) a chtel jsem se zeptat jaka > existuje v cechach psana > literatura o caji ?? > > Ja znam knihu Okouzlujici vune caje a nejake clanky v knihach > Zen o cajovm > obradu Mam Cesta caje, mysl caje a Cajove minimum... Galenius >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Wed Oct 7 13:04:38 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA17299 for caj-outgoing; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:04:38 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA17296 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:04:38 +0200 Received: from kiv.zcu.cz (ur404p01-rek.rek.zcu.cz [147.228.71.108]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA27481; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:04:37 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <361B4AC6.3CD3C38F@kiv.zcu.cz> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 12:04:38 +0100 From: Pavel Baxa Organization: ZCU Plzen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Cajovy obrad References: <361B362C.4A2FDD4F@brn.pvt.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Kraticky seznam tistene literatury o caji mam na Webu: http://www-kiv.zcu.cz/~baxa/caj_liter.html Pavel Baxa --------------------- Petr Buchmaier wrote: > Jsem zde novy (cca 14 dnu) a chtel jsem se zeptat jaka existuje > v cechach psana literatura o caji ?? > > Ja znam knihu Okouzlujici vune caje a nejake clanky v knihach > Zen o cajovm obradu >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Wed Oct 7 13:13:45 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA17403 for caj-outgoing; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:13:45 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA17400 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:13:44 +0200 Received: from sun.fsid.cvut.cz (sun.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA28093 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:13:44 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from student.fsid.cvut.cz (student.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.3]) by sun.fsid.cvut.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA11021 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:13:39 GMT Received: from FSICD1/SpoolDir by student.fsid.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.21); 7 Oct 98 13:13:40 MET-1MEST Received: from SpoolDir by FSICD1 (Mercury 1.21); 7 Oct 98 13:13:22 MET-1MEST From: "Jan Kasparek, student" Organization: FSI CVUT, Prague To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:13:19 MET-1MEST Subject: Re: Caj: Cajovy obrad X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-ID: Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Jsem zde novy (cca 14 dnu) tak to ses tu dyl nez ja :)) > a chtel jsem se zeptat jaka existuje v cechach psana literatura o > caji ?? No, jak uz tu nekolikrat probehlo, mela by vyjit (vysla??) kniha od majitele Dobrych cajoven (jmjeno mi opet vypadlo....) o ruznych druzich caju. Sam jsem ji jeste nevidel. Pak je tu Okouzlujici vune caje jak jsi psal. Zamerene na cajovy obrad jsou: Cesta caje-mysl caje a Tajemstvi cajoveho obradu. Tu prvni jsem jeste videl prodavat tu druhou jiz ne. To je asi vsechno co znam oficialne, kdyz nekdo znate vic tak se ozvete. Dale pak existuje odborna literatura napr. o vlivu caje na kocovinu atd. A samozrejme ruzne okopirovane materialy z prednasek o caji (Ota W. Dufek). To uz je opravdu uplne vsechno. STRAKA__________________________________ Jan Straka Kasparek E-mail: kasparek@student.fsid.cvut.cz http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek Pozvanka pro cajomilce: http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek/tea.htm >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Wed Oct 7 13:43:56 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA17684 for caj-outgoing; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:43:56 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA17681 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:43:55 +0200 Received: from dns.terminal.cz (dns.terminal.cz [195.70.130.1]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA28944 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:43:49 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ruml (ppp49.cc.terminal.cz [195.70.133.49]) by dns.terminal.cz (8.9.1/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA15614 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:43:41 +0200 Message-ID: <000401bdf1e7$ad7e0ae0$318546c3@ruml> From: "Ivan Ruml" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Vicenalevovy. Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:56:58 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Panove Obecne vzato, neni jednoznacne urcit, ktery caj je vicenalevovy. Velmi zjednodusene lze rici, ze vyssi tridy zeleneho caje a oolongu se zalevaji vicekrat ALE... Nektere zalijes 2x a ma dost. Extrem je 7-8 nalevu. Pokud pripravis nejvyssi tridu oolongu po "cinsku", tj. do malicke oolongove konvicky a dobre s nim zachazis, lze to pit cely den. Cenik, kde je to znaceno je na www.caj.cz, stranka oznacena jako maloobchodni cenik fy Ambient. U velkoobchodnich katalogu to neznacime, protoze zakaznik caj vetsinou stejne pred nakupem chutna. Jinymi slovy rict to muzete s jistotou u caje, ktery znate, u jinych se to da pouze predpokladat s ohledem na tridu a stndard. Zdravi Ivan Ruml http://www.caj.cz -----Původní zpráva----- Od: LToman@zivpo.cz Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz Datum: 7. října 1998 8:20 Předmět: RE: Caj: Vicenalevovy. >> >Zajimali by mne postupy jak pripravujete vicenalevovy >> >zeleny caj. Piju spise cerne a tohle jsem jeste nezkousel. >> >Odbornici tvrdi, ze druhy a treti nalev je lepsi nez prvni >> >(napr. u zelene Barmy bych tomu jiste veril). Chtel bych >> >si udelat vice nalevu doma. ale jak? >> >Zaleji prvni nalev, (po x minutach louhovani) sleji. >> >Na listky naleji dalsi vodu, ale kdyz se vylouhuji >> >nebudu mit prvni konev jeste vypitou. Treti nalev uz vubec >> >nebudu mit kam dat (ledy bych pozval sousedy z celeho >> >patra :-). Delate si tedy neco takoveho, >> >pro jednu osobu? Musi byt vetsi spolecnost, nebo pri dalsich >> >nezalezi na dobe louhovani? Snad to chce mensi konev,ale >> >presto. Vypit caj na ex do 3-5 min.? Pokud ma nekdo >> >zkusenost, poradte pro zeleny Vietnam i s casy. >> >Diky Michael. >> >> No myslim ,ze hledas slozitost kde nejni.Na dalsi nalev >> je IMHO potreba teplejsi vodu nez na predchozi,takze stejne musim >> ohrat novou vodu,proto neni potreba s pitim caje spechat(coz je >> horsi prohresek proti cajetikete, nez si varit PIGI). >> Taky nesmis zapomenout ,ze nektere caje se pro >> vice nalevu nedaji pouzit.Jedna firma co ma cenik >> na Inetu ma jasne oznacene vicenalevove caje. > >Ktera firma? Hod URL... Dik... > > Galenius > >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Wed Oct 7 16:06:31 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA18940 for caj-outgoing; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:06:31 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA18937 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:06:28 +0200 Received: from localhost. (ns.speed.cz [212.20.64.94]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA00161 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:06:26 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pc by localhost. (8.8.4/SMI-SVR4) id JAA21741; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:55:03 -0400 Message-Id: <199810071355.JAA21741@localhost.> From: "Bent" To: Subject: Caj: Re: Re: Mineralka ??? Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:45:41 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id QAA18938 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz ---------- > Odesílatel: Pavel Baxa > Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Předmět: Caj: Re: Mineralka ??? > Datum: 6. října 1998 16:06 > > Bent wrote: > > > > Nekde jsem se docetl, ze nejlepsi voda je se strednim PH. > > Tedy ani meka ani tvrda. Zkouseli jste Bonaqvu, > > nebo Dobrou vodu? Chtel bych zkusit test PH indikatorem. > > Nechci rejpat, ale nemuzu si pomoct. > Stredni pH je skutecne pro vodu typicke. Destilovana voda > ma pH=7, stupnice pH je od 0 do 14, jestli se nepletu, hihihi! > Nicmene voda, ktera NEMA stredni pH, muze byt budto KYSELA nebo > ZASADITA. To neni totez jako tvrda a mekka, pozor na to! > > Pavel Baxa Patral jsem, odkud jsem tuto informaci pochytil a zjistil, ze moudra kniha povida .... " Nalev pripraveny z destilovane vody je kysely a ma pH asi 5. Ovsem caj pripraveny z tvrde vody z vodovodu ma jiz pH asi 6,6." Vune caje Spravne jsem tedy mel napsat, ze za nejlepsi bych mel povazovat nalev s pH pohybujici se mezi temito hodnotami. Pokousel jsem se dopidit na zaklade ceho autori davaji do souvislosti tvrdost vody a pH nalevu. Pricemz: Tvrdost vody - je vyjadreni obsahu soli vapniku a horciku. (mekka voda 2mval/l , tvrda 2-6 mval/l kde val = 1mol) Vodikovy exponent pH = -log aH+, kde aH+ =10na-7 mol x dm3 Moudry z toho, ale nejsem. Jestli to vite, klidne se dam podat :-) >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Wed Oct 7 16:32:28 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA19047 for caj-outgoing; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:32:28 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA19044 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:32:27 +0200 Received: from ara.zf.jcu.cz (matoul01@ara.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA01179 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:32:26 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (matoul01@localhost) by ara.zf.jcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id QAA27948 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:32:26 +0200 Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:32:26 +0200 (CEST) From: Libor Matousek To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Zdravim cajicky ! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Konecne jsem se zase subscribnul do tyhle skvely konference. Jsem ted v Ceskych Budejovicich na JCU a jestli jeste nekdo zijete, tak se ozvete. Zdravim kolegu z Cajoveho kychanku - cau Lukasi ! Zitra budu posilat objednavku, tak nam to snad brzo prijde a dame si nejaky ty Zelezny bohyne a Draci studnicky. Mam dobrou zpravu - budu prodavat caje v prodejne JOHANKA na hektarovym namesti v C.B. - konecne brigada pro mne. Tesim se na kolemjdouci cajicky. Dobrou vodu na dobry caj preje Libor "MATY" Matousek e-mail: matoul01@zf.jcu.cz www: http://www.mujweb.cz/www/kychanek/kychanek.htm >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Wed Oct 7 19:28:43 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA19599 for caj-outgoing; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 19:28:43 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA19596 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 19:28:42 +0200 Received: from ns.brailcom.cz (root@ns.brailcom.cz [195.212.199.66]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA05683 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 19:28:41 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from bambuch (d13.brailcom.cz [195.212.199.154]) by ns.brailcom.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA32258 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 19:28:28 +0200 Message-Id: <199810071728.TAA32258@ns.brailcom.cz> From: "Pavol Halaj" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Cajovy obrad Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 19:31:16 +0200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id TAA19597 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ahoj Petře, Já osobne jsem videl Čajové minimum, údajne existuje Čajová bible, sám vlastním Čado-Tajemství čajového obřadu a Cesta čaje, mysl čaje. Zatím Paľo ---------- > Odesílatel: Petr Buchmaier > Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Předmět: Re: Caj: Cajovy obrad > Datum: 7. října 1998 11:36 > > Dekuji za informace, uz jsem to nasel je to skutecne Miyabi v Navratilove ulici. > > Jsem zde novy (cca 14 dnu) a chtel jsem se zeptat jaka existuje v cechach psana > literatura o caji ?? > > Ja znam knihu Okouzlujici vune caje a nejake clanky v knihach Zen o cajovm > obradu > > > > Petr Buchmaier > > > > Jedinou osobou o ktere vim, ze studovala cajovy obrad v Japonsku je > > "vedouci/majitelka, cajovny/jap. restaurace" Miyabi v Praze. Mimo jine > > ho taky predvadela loni na prazskem hrade pri prilezitosti tydne jap. > > kultury v Praze. Bohuzel nevim jak se jmenuje, ale pokud si zajdete > > do Miyabi, urcite vam kontakt daji. Problem je, ze nevim jak se > > jmenuje ta ulice, kde se Miyabi nachazi. Myslim ze Ostrovni. Je to > > mezi Karlovym namestim a Vodickovou ulici. Takze pokud vite nekdo z > > hlavy tu ulici, popripade jiny kontakt, dejte vedet. > > > > STRAKA > > ___________________________________ > > Kasparek Jan, student > > Czech Technical Univerzity, Prague > > Faculty of Mechanical Engineering > > Spec: Biomedical and rehabilitation engineering > > E-mail: kasparek@student.fsid.cvut.cz > > > > Would you like to have pen-friends? > > Visit http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek > > -- > Petr Buchmaier > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > Petr Buchmaier > > PVT a.s Privat: > Veveri 102 P.O.Box 114 > 659 10, Brno 601 00, Brno > Czech Republic Czech Republic > > Voice: +420-5-41558 399 Mobil: +420-603-20 81 81 > Fax: +420-5-41211138 > mailto:buchm@brn.pvt.cz mailto:buchmaier@hotmail.com > ------------------------------------------------------------- >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 8 08:06:59 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA20620 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 08:06:59 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA20617 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 08:06:58 +0200 Received: from ara.zf.jcu.cz (root@ara.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA10205 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 08:06:58 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from zf.jcu.cz (draco.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.2]) by ara.zf.jcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA31683 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 08:06:57 +0200 Message-ID: <361C568D.6408AC41@zf.jcu.cz> Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 08:07:10 +0200 From: Libor Matousek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Cajovy obrad References: <199810071728.TAA32258@ns.brailcom.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ahoj Petre a ostatni cajomilove ! Jsem tu staronovy /prihlasil jsem se znovu na VS/ - byl jsem u zrodu teto konference - a jsem velmi rad, ze pisete prispevky /navic duchaplne/. Co se tyce literatury, znam to, co bylo jiz doporuceno, ale navic bych k seznamu pripojil jeste "Vune caje". Je v ni spousta uzitecnych veci vcetne barevnych obrazku a botanickych nakresu cajovniku cinskeho i asamskeho. Jediny problem je tuto knihu sehnat. Preji hezky den Libor Matousek "MATY" e-mail: matoul01@zf.jcu.cz www: http://www.mujweb.cz/www/kychanek/kychanek.htm Pavol Halaj wrote: > Ahoj Petře, > > Já osobne jsem videl Čajové minimum, údajne existuje Čajová bible, sám vlastním Čado-Tajemství čajového obřadu a Cesta čaje, mysl čaje. Zatím > Paľo > > ---------- > > Odesílatel: Petr Buchmaier > > Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > Předmět: Re: Caj: Cajovy obrad > > Datum: 7. října 1998 11:36 > > > > Dekuji za informace, uz jsem to nasel je to skutecne Miyabi v Navratilove ulici. > > > > Jsem zde novy (cca 14 dnu) a chtel jsem se zeptat jaka existuje v cechach psana > > literatura o caji ?? > > > > Ja znam knihu Okouzlujici vune caje a nejake clanky v knihach Zen o cajovm > > obradu > > > > > > > > Petr Buchmaier > > > > > > > Jedinou osobou o ktere vim, ze studovala cajovy obrad v Japonsku je > > > "vedouci/majitelka, cajovny/jap. restaurace" Miyabi v Praze. Mimo jine > > > ho taky predvadela loni na prazskem hrade pri prilezitosti tydne jap. > > > kultury v Praze. Bohuzel nevim jak se jmenuje, ale pokud si zajdete > > > do Miyabi, urcite vam kontakt daji. Problem je, ze nevim jak se > > > jmenuje ta ulice, kde se Miyabi nachazi. Myslim ze Ostrovni. Je to > > > mezi Karlovym namestim a Vodickovou ulici. Takze pokud vite nekdo z > > > hlavy tu ulici, popripade jiny kontakt, dejte vedet. > > > > > > STRAKA > > > ___________________________________ > > > Kasparek Jan, student > > > Czech Technical Univerzity, Prague > > > Faculty of Mechanical Engineering > > > Spec: Biomedical and rehabilitation engineering > > > E-mail: kasparek@student.fsid.cvut.cz > > > > > > Would you like to have pen-friends? > > > Visit http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek > > > > -- > > Petr Buchmaier > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Petr Buchmaier > > > > PVT a.s Privat: > > Veveri 102 P.O.Box 114 > > 659 10, Brno 601 00, Brno > > Czech Republic Czech Republic > > > > Voice: +420-5-41558 399 Mobil: +420-603-20 81 81 > > Fax: +420-5-41211138 > > mailto:buchm@brn.pvt.cz mailto:buchmaier@hotmail.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------- Pavol Halaj wrote: > Ahoj Petře, > > Já osobne jsem videl Čajové minimum, údajne existuje Čajová bible, sám vlastním Čado-Tajemství čajového obřadu a Cesta čaje, mysl čaje. Zatím > Paľo > > ---------- > > Odesílatel: Petr Buchmaier > > Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > Předmět: Re: Caj: Cajovy obrad > > Datum: 7. října 1998 11:36 > > > > Dekuji za informace, uz jsem to nasel je to skutecne Miyabi v Navratilove ulici. > > > > Jsem zde novy (cca 14 dnu) a chtel jsem se zeptat jaka existuje v cechach psana > > literatura o caji ?? > > > > Ja znam knihu Okouzlujici vune caje a nejake clanky v knihach Zen o cajovm > > obradu > > > > > > > > Petr Buchmaier > > > > > > > Jedinou osobou o ktere vim, ze studovala cajovy obrad v Japonsku je > > > "vedouci/majitelka, cajovny/jap. restaurace" Miyabi v Praze. Mimo jine > > > ho taky predvadela loni na prazskem hrade pri prilezitosti tydne jap. > > > kultury v Praze. Bohuzel nevim jak se jmenuje, ale pokud si zajdete > > > do Miyabi, urcite vam kontakt daji. Problem je, ze nevim jak se > > > jmenuje ta ulice, kde se Miyabi nachazi. Myslim ze Ostrovni. Je to > > > mezi Karlovym namestim a Vodickovou ulici. Takze pokud vite nekdo z > > > hlavy tu ulici, popripade jiny kontakt, dejte vedet. > > > > > > STRAKA > > > ___________________________________ > > > Kasparek Jan, student > > > Czech Technical Univerzity, Prague > > > Faculty of Mechanical Engineering > > > Spec: Biomedical and rehabilitation engineering > > > E-mail: kasparek@student.fsid.cvut.cz > > > > > > Would you like to have pen-friends? > > > Visit http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek > > > > -- > > Petr Buchmaier > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Petr Buchmaier > > > > PVT a.s Privat: > > Veveri 102 P.O.Box 114 > > 659 10, Brno 601 00, Brno > > Czech Republic Czech Republic > > > > Voice: +420-5-41558 399 Mobil: +420-603-20 81 81 > > Fax: +420-5-41211138 > > mailto:buchm@brn.pvt.cz mailto:buchmaier@hotmail.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------- Pavol Halaj wrote: > Ahoj Petře, > > Já osobne jsem videl Čajové minimum, údajne existuje Čajová bible, sám vlastním Čado-Tajemství čajového obřadu a Cesta čaje, mysl čaje. Zatím > Paľo > > ---------- > > Odesílatel: Petr Buchmaier > > Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > Předmět: Re: Caj: Cajovy obrad > > Datum: 7. října 1998 11:36 > > > > Dekuji za informace, uz jsem to nasel je to skutecne Miyabi v Navratilove ulici. > > > > Jsem zde novy (cca 14 dnu) a chtel jsem se zeptat jaka existuje v cechach psana > > literatura o caji ?? > > > > Ja znam knihu Okouzlujici vune caje a nejake clanky v knihach Zen o cajovm > > obradu > > > > > > > > Petr Buchmaier > > > > > > > Jedinou osobou o ktere vim, ze studovala cajovy obrad v Japonsku je > > > "vedouci/majitelka, cajovny/jap. restaurace" Miyabi v Praze. Mimo jine > > > ho taky predvadela loni na prazskem hrade pri prilezitosti tydne jap. > > > kultury v Praze. Bohuzel nevim jak se jmenuje, ale pokud si zajdete > > > do Miyabi, urcite vam kontakt daji. Problem je, ze nevim jak se > > > jmenuje ta ulice, kde se Miyabi nachazi. Myslim ze Ostrovni. Je to > > > mezi Karlovym namestim a Vodickovou ulici. Takze pokud vite nekdo z > > > hlavy tu ulici, popripade jiny kontakt, dejte vedet. > > > > > > STRAKA > > > ___________________________________ > > > Kasparek Jan, student > > > Czech Technical Univerzity, Prague > > > Faculty of Mechanical Engineering > > > Spec: Biomedical and rehabilitation engineering > > > E-mail: kasparek@student.fsid.cvut.cz > > > > > > Would you like to have pen-friends? > > > Visit http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek > > > > -- > > Petr Buchmaier > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Petr Buchmaier > > > > PVT a.s Privat: > > Veveri 102 P.O.Box 114 > > 659 10, Brno 601 00, Brno > > Czech Republic Czech Republic > > > > Voice: +420-5-41558 399 Mobil: +420-603-20 81 81 > > Fax: +420-5-41211138 > > mailto:buchm@brn.pvt.cz mailto:buchmaier@hotmail.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------- Pavol Halaj wrote: > Ahoj Petře, > > Já osobne jsem videl Čajové minimum, údajne existuje Čajová bible, sám vlastním Čado-Tajemství čajového obřadu a Cesta čaje, mysl čaje. Zatím > Paľo > > ---------- > > Odesílatel: Petr Buchmaier > > Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > Předmět: Re: Caj: Cajovy obrad > > Datum: 7. října 1998 11:36 > > > > Dekuji za informace, uz jsem to nasel je to skutecne Miyabi v Navratilove ulici. > > > > Jsem zde novy (cca 14 dnu) a chtel jsem se zeptat jaka existuje v cechach psana > > literatura o caji ?? > > > > Ja znam knihu Okouzlujici vune caje a nejake clanky v knihach Zen o cajovm > > obradu > > > > > > > > Petr Buchmaier > > > > > > > Jedinou osobou o ktere vim, ze studovala cajovy obrad v Japonsku je > > > "vedouci/majitelka, cajovny/jap. restaurace" Miyabi v Praze. Mimo jine > > > ho taky predvadela loni na prazskem hrade pri prilezitosti tydne jap. > > > kultury v Praze. Bohuzel nevim jak se jmenuje, ale pokud si zajdete > > > do Miyabi, urcite vam kontakt daji. Problem je, ze nevim jak se > > > jmenuje ta ulice, kde se Miyabi nachazi. Myslim ze Ostrovni. Je to > > > mezi Karlovym namestim a Vodickovou ulici. Takze pokud vite nekdo z > > > hlavy tu ulici, popripade jiny kontakt, dejte vedet. > > > > > > STRAKA > > > ___________________________________ > > > Kasparek Jan, student > > > Czech Technical Univerzity, Prague > > > Faculty of Mechanical Engineering > > > Spec: Biomedical and rehabilitation engineering > > > E-mail: kasparek@student.fsid.cvut.cz > > > > > > Would you like to have pen-friends? > > > Visit http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek > > > > -- > > Petr Buchmaier > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Petr Buchmaier > > > > PVT a.s Privat: > > Veveri 102 P.O.Box 114 > > 659 10, Brno 601 00, Brno > > Czech Republic Czech Republic > > > > Voice: +420-5-41558 399 Mobil: +420-603-20 81 81 > > Fax: +420-5-41211138 > > mailto:buchm@brn.pvt.cz mailto:buchmaier@hotmail.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------- >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 8 09:48:00 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA20811 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:48:00 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA20808 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:47:59 +0200 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA12613 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:47:58 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA11363 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:47:58 +0200 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 8 Oct 98 09:47:58 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 8 Oct 98 09:47:45 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:47:44 +100 Subject: Caj: Kde sehnat literaturu... X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Jiz zde byla zminovana prodejna v Praze v Celetne, jde o prodejnu duchovni literatury, musite se vysapat po strmych schodech do prvniho patra. Najdete tam hodne ze zde zminovane literatury. Jinak neco mivaji i primo v cajovnach. Ale popravde staci jedna dobra kniha o tom, co jaky caj je, seznam zkratek a pak uz jen bedlive koukat kolem sebe, zkouset, navstevovat, povidat si a sbirat zkusenosti...cimz ovsem nejsem proti knihovne plne cajove literatury. Jen bych se tim nenechal unest. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 8 09:49:29 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA20848 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:49:29 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA20845 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:49:28 +0200 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA12759 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:49:28 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA11435 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:49:27 +0200 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 8 Oct 98 09:49:27 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 8 Oct 98 09:49:14 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:49:06 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Zdravim cajicky ! X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Konecne jsem se zase subscribnul do tyhle skvely konference. Jsem ted v > Ceskych Budejovicich na JCU a jestli jeste nekdo zijete, tak se ozvete. > Zdravim kolegu z Cajoveho kychanku - cau Lukasi ! Zitra budu posilat > objednavku, tak nam to snad brzo prijde a dame si nejaky ty Zelezny bohyne > a Draci studnicky. > Mam dobrou zpravu - budu prodavat caje v prodejne JOHANKA na hektarovym > namesti v C.B. - konecne brigada pro mne. Tesim se na kolemjdouci cajicky. Tak to by jsi mohl napsat, jaka je Dobra cajovna v C.Budejovicich. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 8 09:55:38 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA20900 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:55:38 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA20897 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:55:37 +0200 Received: from localhost. (ns.speed.cz [212.20.64.94]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA13064 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:55:35 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pc by localhost. (8.8.4/SMI-SVR4) id DAA24951; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 03:44:19 -0400 Message-Id: <199810080744.DAA24951@localhost.> From: "Bent" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Literatura Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 07:36:20 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id JAA20898 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Mne znama literatura: 1/"Svet caje" (Vlastivedne muzeum vOlomouci) 2/"Cesta caje, mysl caje." 3/"Tajemstvi cajoveho obradu." 4/"Od cajovniku k cajove konvici" (Teekane) 5/"Herbainfo" (Jenc) 6/"Cajove minimum" 7/"Caje a byliny" (spise obrazova publikace, mam ji jen pujcenou - pokud nekdo vite kde ji sehnat ...) 8/"Cajova zastaveni" (sbornik) - vyborna vec! 9/"Vune caje" (Aramovicova, Valicek) - z odborneho hlediska nejlepsi co u nas vyslo. Dale shanim: "Caj nebo kavu" (Dufek) "Kava a caj", pripadne "Nad salkem plnych vuni" (Zacek) Z casopisu lze doporucit "Beverage Revue" kde se skoro v kazdem cisle venuji na 1-2strankach caji, cajovnam, nebo mate. Michael Odesílatel: Petr Buchmaier > Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Předmět: Re: Caj: Cajovy obrad > Datum: 7. října 1998 10:36 > > Dekuji za informace, uz jsem to nasel je to skutecne Miyabi v Navratilove ulici. > > Jsem zde novy (cca 14 dnu) a chtel jsem se zeptat jaka existuje v cechach psana > literatura o caji ?? > > Ja znam knihu Okouzlujici vune caje a nejake clanky v knihach Zen o cajovm > obradu > > > > Petr Buchmaier > > > > Jedinou osobou o ktere vim, ze studovala cajovy obrad v Japonsku je > > "vedouci/majitelka, cajovny/jap. restaurace" Miyabi v Praze. Mimo jine > > ho taky predvadela loni na prazskem hrade pri prilezitosti tydne jap. > > kultury v Praze. Bohuzel nevim jak se jmenuje, ale pokud si zajdete > > do Miyabi, urcite vam kontakt daji. Problem je, ze nevim jak se > > jmenuje ta ulice, kde se Miyabi nachazi. Myslim ze Ostrovni. Je to > > mezi Karlovym namestim a Vodickovou ulici. Takze pokud vite nekdo z > > hlavy tu ulici, popripade jiny kontakt, dejte vedet. > > > > STRAKA > > ___________________________________ > > Kasparek Jan, student > > Czech Technical Univerzity, Prague > > Faculty of Mechanical Engineering > > Spec: Biomedical and rehabilitation engineering > > E-mail: kasparek@student.fsid.cvut.cz > > > > Would you like to have pen-friends? > > Visit http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek > > -- > Petr Buchmaier > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > Petr Buchmaier > > PVT a.s Privat: > Veveri 102 P.O.Box 114 > 659 10, Brno 601 00, Brno > Czech Republic Czech Republic > > Voice: +420-5-41558 399 Mobil: +420-603-20 81 81 > Fax: +420-5-41211138 > mailto:buchm@brn.pvt.cz mailto:buchmaier@hotmail.com > ------------------------------------------------------------- >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 8 09:59:24 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA20940 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:59:24 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA20937 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:59:23 +0200 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA13221 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:59:21 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA11692 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:59:21 +0200 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 8 Oct 98 09:59:21 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 8 Oct 98 09:58:58 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:58:52 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Vicenalevovy. X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > Zajimali by mne postupy jak pripravujete vicenalevovy > > zeleny caj. Piju spise cerne a tohle jsem jeste nezkousel. > > Odbornici tvrdi, ze druhy a treti nalev je lepsi nez prvni > > (napr. u zelene Barmy bych tomu jiste veril). Chtel bych > > si udelat vice nalevu doma. ale jak? > > Zaleji prvni nalev, (po x minutach louhovani) sleji. > > Na listky naleji dalsi vodu, ale kdyz se vylouhuji > > nebudu mit prvni konev jeste vypitou. Vse zde jiz bylo, tak jen par osobnich poznatku. Caj by nemel byt v konvici moc dlouho (bez vody), pry rychle dochazi k pocatku hnilobneho procesu (toliko cajove minimum). To je mineno hlavne proti opakovanemu cachtani sackovych caju...ale o tom se snad tady ani nebudeme bavit. Je pravda, ze mi nekdy pijeme caj i z jeden den starych listku (od prvniho nalevu). Pocet nalevu je opet vec individualni a nelze na ni brat presna pravidla. Nekdy je treba moc dobry caj ve forme lehce cajem ochucene vody (treba 5. nalev). Zalezi take na mnozstvi listku v konvicce. Kamaradi udelali se Vzpominkou na cajoveho krale na Vaclavaku v D.cajovne az 8 konvicek vody a to uz se na ne prisla podivat i obsluha a ochutnavala, jestli se to da vubec jeste pit. Ja vubec myslim, ze davat striktni pravidla JAK DELAT A PIT CAJ je osemetne, proste zkouset zkouset zkouset...ale bylo by zajimave a prospesnejsi zkusit dat dohromady nastin pravidel JAK ZASADNE NEDELAT A NEPIT CAJ. A pak by z toho vyslo vseobecne pravidlo...co neni zakazano, je dovoleno, a pokud to porusis, nemas pravo svemu vytvoru rikat CAJ :-))) Tak do toho. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 8 10:03:27 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA21020 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:03:27 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA21017 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:03:26 +0200 Received: from ara.zf.jcu.cz (matoul01@ara.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA13552 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:03:25 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (matoul01@localhost) by ara.zf.jcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id KAA03505 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:03:24 +0200 Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:03:24 +0200 (CEST) From: Libor Matousek To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Zdravim cajicky ! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Tak to by jsi mohl napsat, jaka je Dobra cajovna v C.Budejovicich. Pavle a vsichni ostatni - nechi delat reklamu - ta cajovna je proste DOBRA. Nic vic k ni dodavat nemusim. Zrovna vcera jsem tam byl s nekolika prateli a kazdy urcite vi, jaka je v D.C. atmosfera. Dal jsem si Tie Guan Yin /i kdyz mam na koleji takovou svoji malou cajovnicku - Yixing konvicku a ty nejlepsi caje, vcetne te Milosrdne bohyne milosrdenstvi/. Proste jsem si sel sednout tam. Tesne pred zavrenim tam dokonce vypravely pohadku o Nasredinovy. Tim bych tento dlouhy mail /skoro slohovku/ uzavrel. Zaver - bylo to tam fajn, ale kdyz jsem tam schanel brigadu, nevzali me - skoda, musim tam chodit alespon na cajicky. Libor Matousek "MATY" E-mail: matoul01@zf.jcu.cz maty_junior@post.cz WWW: http://www.mujweb.cz/www/kychanek/kychanek.htm >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 8 10:35:39 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA21263 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:35:39 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA21260 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:35:38 +0200 Received: from sun.fsid.cvut.cz (sun.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA14397 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:35:38 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from student.fsid.cvut.cz (student.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.3]) by sun.fsid.cvut.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA27654 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 08:35:37 GMT Received: from FSICD1/SpoolDir by student.fsid.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.21); 8 Oct 98 10:35:38 MET-1MEST Received: from SpoolDir by FSICD1 (Mercury 1.21); 8 Oct 98 10:35:14 MET-1MEST From: "Jan Kasparek, student" Organization: FSI CVUT, Prague To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:35:10 MET-1MEST Subject: Caj: Dobra cajovna v CB X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-ID: Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > Konecne jsem se zase subscribnul do tyhle skvely konference. Jsem ted v > > Ceskych Budejovicich na JCU a jestli jeste nekdo zijete, tak se ozvete. > > Zdravim kolegu z Cajoveho kychanku - cau Lukasi ! Zitra budu posilat > > objednavku, tak nam to snad brzo prijde a dame si nejaky ty Zelezny bohyne > > a Draci studnicky. > > Mam dobrou zpravu - budu prodavat caje v prodejne JOHANKA na hektarovym > > namesti v C.B. - konecne brigada pro mne. Tesim se na kolemjdouci cajicky. > > Tak to by jsi mohl napsat, jaka je Dobra cajovna v C.Budejovicich. Jo to bys mohl a ja to pak soupnu na stranky Projektu. STRAKA__________________________________ Jan Straka Kasparek E-mail: kasparek@student.fsid.cvut.cz http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek Pozvanka pro cajomilce: http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek/tea.htm >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 8 10:40:23 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA21314 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:40:23 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA21311 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:40:22 +0200 Received: from sun.fsid.cvut.cz (sun.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA14605 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:40:21 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from student.fsid.cvut.cz (student.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.3]) by sun.fsid.cvut.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA27758 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 08:40:21 GMT Received: from FSICD1/SpoolDir by student.fsid.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.21); 8 Oct 98 10:40:22 MET-1MEST Received: from SpoolDir by FSICD1 (Mercury 1.21); 8 Oct 98 10:40:16 MET-1MEST From: "Jan Kasparek, student" Organization: FSI CVUT, Prague To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:40:13 MET-1MEST Subject: Caj: Studeny nalev X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-ID: Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Uz se tu jednou probiralo, ale jaky mate nazor na za studena louhovany caj? Mam na mysli, ze se da cosi do studene vody (treba caj) a necha se to treba pres noc nebo pres den na slunicku louhovat. Mate s tim nekdo zkusenosti? Myslim, ze o tom psal pan Fulghum v jedne ze svych knizek. Diky STRAKA __________________________________ Jan Straka Kasparek E-mail: kasparek@student.fsid.cvut.cz http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek Pozvanka pro cajomilce: http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek/tea.htm >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 8 10:58:09 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA21437 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:58:09 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA21434 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:58:08 +0200 Received: from ara.zf.jcu.cz (root@ara.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA14933 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:58:08 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from zf.jcu.cz (draco.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.2]) by ara.zf.jcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA05657 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:58:07 +0200 Message-ID: <361C7EAB.117EC6BC@zf.jcu.cz> Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 10:58:19 +0200 From: Libor Matousek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Studeny nalev References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Caj Honzo ! Tak jsem se byl kouknout na Tvou webku o cajich a chybi Ti tam BUDEJICE - takhle to prece nejde :-) Seznam DC /vcetne adres/ najdete na me skromne strance /mimochodem ta Honzovo je pekna... hlavne ty japonsky caj - klobouk dolu/. Jdu na prednasku /bohuzel ne o caji, ale o ekologii/. Libor Matousek "Maty" e-mail: Matoul01@zf.jcu.cz Maty_junior@post.cz www: http://www.mujweb.cz/www/kychanek/kychanek.htm >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 8 10:58:14 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA21453 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:58:14 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA21450 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:58:13 +0200 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA15403 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:58:12 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA12963 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:58:12 +0200 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 8 Oct 98 10:58:13 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 8 Oct 98 10:58:04 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:57:58 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Studeny nalev X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Uz se tu jednou probiralo, ale jaky mate nazor na za studena > louhovany caj? Mam na mysli, ze se da cosi do studene vody (treba > caj) a necha se to treba pres noc nebo pres den na slunicku louhovat. > Mate s tim nekdo zkusenosti? Myslim, ze o tom psal pan Fulghum v > jedne ze svych knizek. Zkusenosti s doslova studenou vodou nemam, ale i ja o tom cetl. Jsou ale dle mojich zkusenosti caje, ktere maji radeji vodu vyrazne pod bodem varu (treba 60 st.C apod.). Jsou to casto bile caje, genmaicha (aby se neprepalila ryze), Draci oci a urcite i jine dalsi. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 8 12:23:08 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA22131 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:23:08 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA22128 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:23:07 +0200 Received: from kiv.zcu.cz (ur404p01-rek.rek.zcu.cz [147.228.71.108]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA18319; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:23:07 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <361C928C.57F28015@kiv.zcu.cz> Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 11:23:08 +0100 From: Pavel Baxa Organization: ZCU Plzen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Studeny nalev References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Jan Kasparek, student wrote: > > Uz se tu jednou probiralo, ale jaky mate nazor na za studena > louhovany caj? Mam na mysli, ze se da cosi do studene vody (treba > caj) a necha se to treba pres noc nebo pres den na slunicku louhovat. > Mate s tim nekdo zkusenosti? Myslim, ze o tom psal pan Fulghum v > jedne ze svych knizek. Priznam se, ze mi neni docela jasne, k cemu je to dobre. Je-li to dobre. Velke mnozstvi latek se zastudena proste neuvolni. Mozna prave o to jde, nevim. Ale studeny caj nejak nema chut. On hlavne nema VUNI, protoze se malo vyparuje. A bez vune je pul kouzla pryc. Nejmenuje se takovy postup macerace? Pak se pije macerat? Brr. Pavel Baxa >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 8 14:01:53 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA22763 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:01:53 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA22760 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:01:51 +0200 Received: from ns.felk.cvut.cz (ns.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.9]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA21366 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:01:50 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sun (sun.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.32]) by ns.felk.cvut.cz (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA12201 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:01:50 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sol29.felk.cvut.cz by sun (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04455; Thu, 8 Oct 98 14:01:55 +0200 Received: by sol29.felk.cvut.cz (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA10705; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:06:58 +0200 Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:06:58 +0200 From: xtregner@sun.felk.cvut.cz (Tregner Vaclav student 6_98_99 k336) Message-Id: <199810011206.OAA10705@sol29.felk.cvut.cz> To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Studeny nalev Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Md5: llH4wXxIQG1JOO2xHyDNOA== Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz A nevite co jsou to ty ledovy caje co nabizej v cajovnach? V Tabore v Dobry cajovne nabizej nekolik druhu - jeden jsem videl a vypadalo to jako pivo!! Melo to rezavou barvu a bilou penovou cepici. Cau Vasek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 8 14:22:12 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA22882 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:22:12 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA22879 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:22:11 +0200 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA21852 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:22:10 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA18182 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:22:10 +0200 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 8 Oct 98 14:22:10 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 8 Oct 98 14:22:05 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:22:00 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Studeny nalev X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > A nevite co jsou to ty ledovy caje co nabizej v cajovnach? V Tabore v Dobry > cajovne nabizej nekolik druhu - jeden jsem videl a vypadalo to jako pivo!! > Melo to rezavou barvu a bilou penovou cepici. Ja znam caj se zmrzlinou. Ani jsem to nepil, kdyz caj, tak caj...ale proti gustu zadny disputat... Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Fri Oct 9 08:00:55 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA25152 for caj-outgoing; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:00:55 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA25149 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:00:52 +0200 Received: from mail.oku-je.cz ([195.47.23.218]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA14684 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:00:43 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from KAFKOVA [172.16.50.24] (HELO jkafkova) by mail.oku-je.cz (AltaVista Mail V2.0/2.0 BL23 listener) id 0000_007b_361d_a4ac_4150; Fri, 09 Oct 1998 07:52:44 +0200 Message-ID: <001801bdf351$d90313c0$183210ac@jkafkova> From: "=?iso-8859-2?Q?Jana_Kafkov=E1?=" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Literatura Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 07:55:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id IAA25150 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz "Caj nebo kavu" - Dufek Zkus adresu Zasilkove knihkupectvi Sagitta, Lidicka 667, 25801 Vlasim. Mam to od nich. Jana -----Původní zpráva----- Od: Bent Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz Datum: 8. října 1998 8:49 Předmět: Re: Caj: Literatura Mne znama literatura: 1/"Svet caje" (Vlastivedne muzeum vOlomouci) 2/"Cesta caje, mysl caje." 3/"Tajemstvi cajoveho obradu." 4/"Od cajovniku k cajove konvici" (Teekane) 5/"Herbainfo" (Jenc) 6/"Cajove minimum" 7/"Caje a byliny" (spise obrazova publikace, mam ji jen pujcenou - pokud nekdo vite kde ji sehnat ...) 8/"Cajova zastaveni" (sbornik) - vyborna vec! 9/"Vune caje" (Aramovicova, Valicek) - z odborneho hlediska nejlepsi co u nas vyslo. Dale shanim: "Caj nebo kavu" (Dufek) "Kava a caj", pripadne "Nad salkem plnych vuni" (Zacek) Z casopisu lze doporucit "Beverage Revue" kde se skoro v kazdem cisle venuji na 1-2strankach caji, cajovnam, nebo mate. Michael Odesílatel: Petr Buchmaier > Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Předmět: Re: Caj: Cajovy obrad > Datum: 7. října 1998 10:36 > > Dekuji za informace, uz jsem to nasel je to skutecne Miyabi v Navratilove ulici. > > Jsem zde novy (cca 14 dnu) a chtel jsem se zeptat jaka existuje v cechach psana > literatura o caji ?? > > Ja znam knihu Okouzlujici vune caje a nejake clanky v knihach Zen o cajovm > obradu > > > > Petr Buchmaier > > > > Jedinou osobou o ktere vim, ze studovala cajovy obrad v Japonsku je > > "vedouci/majitelka, cajovny/jap. restaurace" Miyabi v Praze. Mimo jine > > ho taky predvadela loni na prazskem hrade pri prilezitosti tydne jap. > > kultury v Praze. Bohuzel nevim jak se jmenuje, ale pokud si zajdete > > do Miyabi, urcite vam kontakt daji. Problem je, ze nevim jak se > > jmenuje ta ulice, kde se Miyabi nachazi. Myslim ze Ostrovni. Je to > > mezi Karlovym namestim a Vodickovou ulici. Takze pokud vite nekdo z > > hlavy tu ulici, popripade jiny kontakt, dejte vedet. > > > > STRAKA > > ___________________________________ > > Kasparek Jan, student > > Czech Technical Univerzity, Prague > > Faculty of Mechanical Engineering > > Spec: Biomedical and rehabilitation engineering > > E-mail: kasparek@student.fsid.cvut.cz > > > > Would you like to have pen-friends? > > Visit http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek > > -- > Petr Buchmaier > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > Petr Buchmaier > > PVT a.s Privat: > Veveri 102 P.O.Box 114 > 659 10, Brno 601 00, Brno > Czech Republic Czech Republic > > Voice: +420-5-41558 399 Mobil: +420-603-20 81 81 > Fax: +420-5-41211138 > mailto:buchm@brn.pvt.cz mailto:buchmaier@hotmail.com > ------------------------------------------------------------- >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Fri Oct 9 08:54:27 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA25260 for caj-outgoing; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:54:27 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA25257 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:54:27 +0200 Received: from okusrv.oku-cl.cz (oku-dlink-eth.clnet.cz [193.165.96.214]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA15660 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:54:19 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mojtek.oku-cl.cz (mojtek.oku-cl.cz [193.165.97.135]) by okusrv.oku-cl.cz (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA12251 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:54:53 +0200 Message-ID: <000901bdf351$a0326640$8761a5c1@mojtek.oku-cl.cz> From: "Pavel Mojtek" To: Subject: Re: Re: Caj: Studeny nalev Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:54:12 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz >> A nevite co jsou to ty ledovy caje co nabizej v cajovnach? V Tabore v Dobry >> cajovne nabizej nekolik druhu - jeden jsem videl a vypadalo to jako pivo!! >> Melo to rezavou barvu a bilou penovou cepici. > > Ja znam caj se zmrzlinou. Ani jsem to nepil, kdyz caj, tak caj...ale >proti gustu zadny disputat... U nas dela ledovy caj necaj z rooibosu a v lete vedle thuaregu je to nejpitelnejsi nealko. >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Fri Oct 9 10:23:35 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA25784 for caj-outgoing; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:23:35 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA25781 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:23:34 +0200 Received: from kiv.zcu.cz (ur404p01-rek.rek.zcu.cz [147.228.71.108]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA17777 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:23:33 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <361DD614.9ADE25B3@kiv.zcu.cz> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 10:23:32 +0100 From: Pavel Baxa Organization: ZCU Plzen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Netiketa References: <001801bdf351$d90313c0$183210ac@jkafkova> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Drazi pratele! Mam obrovskou radost z toho, ze tahle konference takto ozila a ze je nas tolik (uz pres 40). Priznam se, ze takovy zajem jsem zprvu neocekaval a o to vic me tesi. Presto se musim na chvili stat neprijemnym a promluvit vam do duse. Stejne jako cajovy obrad, ktery, ma-li probehnout k vseobecne spokojenosti pritomnych, zachovava jista dobre znama a lety osvedcena pravidla chovani jednotlivych zucastnenych, meli bychom se i my ridit jistymi zasadami, aby se z pratelskeho rozhovoru nestalo zmatene blaboleni a prekrikovani. O cem ze to mluvim? Prave jsem dostal zpravu, jejiz obsah byl nasledujici: 1 radka textu, na kterou se reaguje 2 radky textu - odpovedi 1 slovo - podpis 79 (!) radek textu z mnoha predeslych zprav. Ja vim, ze je dobre, kdyz se da poznat, nac pisatel reaguje, ale zkuste pri odpovidani vyhazet zbytecne radky, hlavne cizi signatury. Vyrazne se tim usetri misto v mailboxech a ti z nas, kteri za e-mail plati, take neco usetri. No a pak je taky doby napad pouzivat Subject (predmet, nadpis zpravy) k jeho puvodnimu ucelu, tj. strucne naznacit obsah zpravy. Pokud nekdo menite tema hovoru, pak zmente prosim i Subject. Usnadnite tim vsem orientaci v tech vice nez 200 zpravach, ktere prosly touto konferenci od jejiho vzniku na zacatku roku. Diky moc Pavel Baxa >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Fri Oct 9 12:21:01 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA26215 for caj-outgoing; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:21:01 +0200 Received: from eros.zcu.cz (eros.zcu.cz [147.228.1.10]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA26212 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:20:50 +0200 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by eros.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA00846 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:20:39 +0200 Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA31982 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:17:30 +0200 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 9 Oct 98 12:17:28 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 9 Oct 98 12:17:14 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:17:07 +100 Subject: Caj: Cajetiketa X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Prave jsem dostal zpravu, jejiz obsah byl nasledujici: > 1 radka textu, na kterou se reaguje > 2 radky textu - odpovedi > 1 slovo - podpis > 79 (!) radek textu z mnoha predeslych zprav. Jo jo, toho uz jsem si take vsim. Tak a k tem pravidlum jak nedelat a nepit caj. Zkusim zacit. Jak NEPIT: rychle; ve spechu (coz neni totez); brckem; lzickou; z lahve (mineno sklenene) co NEDELAT: pri louhovani nedopustit styk s kovem; pri skladovani nemichat s aromatickymi latkami; nelouhovat ze sackoveho caje; dal jsem linej premyslet......... Vycet toho, kdy caj pit a kdy nepit, uvadi Spolek milcu caje v Dobrych cajovnach (aspon na Vaclavaku v Praze), kdo zna, ten zna, kdo ne, ma o duvod vic jit do D.cajovny s otevrenyma ocima. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Fri Oct 9 13:00:21 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA26700 for caj-outgoing; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:00:21 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA26697 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:00:21 +0200 Received: from adis.cesnet.cz (adis.cesnet.cz [194.50.6.3]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA02668 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:00:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from matsrv.math.cas.cz (kasal@math-gw.math.cas.cz [147.231.89.66]) by adis.cesnet.cz (8.8.8/CESNET) with ESMTP id LAA26641 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:21:26 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from kasal@localhost) by matsrv.math.cas.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA03629; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:17:51 +0200 From: Stepan Kasal Message-Id: <199810090917.LAA03629@matsrv.math.cas.cz> Subject: Caj: Re: Kolik caje?? To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:17:51 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <199810060928.LAA06704@sol24.felk.cvut.cz> from "Tregner Vaclav student 6_98_99 k336" at Oct 6, 98 11:28:23 am Content-Type: text Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Dobry den, > > Napriklad Darjeeling si varim silnejsi, 7 az 7,5 g na litr. > > a kolik je lzicek tech 7 g, myslim klasickou malou lzicku ? prepocet na gramy jsem vyrobil jen proto, ze to po mne kdosi chtel. Darjeeling si varim ze dvou cajovych lzicek do 0,6 litru. Opakuji, ze to jsou me individualni chute, normalni je varit ho dvakrat silnejsi, to je 5-7 lzicek na litr. Stepan Kasal >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Fri Oct 9 13:03:18 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA26734 for caj-outgoing; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:03:18 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA26731 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:03:17 +0200 Received: from adis.cesnet.cz (adis.cesnet.cz [194.50.6.3]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA02987 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:03:17 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from matsrv.math.cas.cz (kasal@math-gw.math.cas.cz [147.231.89.66]) by adis.cesnet.cz (8.8.8/CESNET) with ESMTP id LAA00416 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:45:41 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from kasal@localhost) by matsrv.math.cas.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA03885 for caj@dione.zcu.cz; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:44:46 +0200 From: Stepan Kasal Message-Id: <199810090944.LAA03885@matsrv.math.cas.cz> Subject: Caj: Vicenalevovy. To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:44:46 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <01bdf1c8$d1565090$a33fe493@nymph3.zcu.cz> from "Demeter Jurista" at Oct 7, 98 03:02:24 am Content-Type: text Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Dobry den, par poznamek: > Udelal jsem prvni nalev, ten by se mel radsi vylit, ale cloveku je to > tak nejak lito, takze to neudela a vypije ho (caj nechavam stale v hrnku, > kdyz voda vychladne, uz se nic moc nelouhuje). ... Tak tak, taky mi to bylo lito. Ale kdyz mi to bylo podano, jako ze caj se ma proplachnout, aby se procistil, tj. zalit vodou stejne teplou jako pro prvni nalev, tj. 60 az 80 stupnu (nikoliv vrouci!) a ihned (do nekolika sekund) vodu vylit, zacalo se mi to zdat prijatelnejsi. Kdyby tam ta voda zustala pul minuty, uz by se luhoval caj a to by byla skoda. > zalit jeste jednou, me osobne chutna treti nalev nejvice. Dalsi kolo uz jsem > nezkousel, vecer se nachylil a ja jsem chtel jeste taky spat :-) Pokud nemyslis, zes chtel hned jit spat, ale narazis na tein v caji, tak si myslim, ze Ti caj vychazi vstric, protoze tein se vyluhuje rychleji nez treba trisloviny, takze dalsi nalevy uz nemaji takovou silu. U bilych caju, ktere uvadis dole, je zejmena prvni nalev hodne silny (obsahem teinu myslim). > Pokud jde o druhy caju, ktere jsem takto zkousel byly to Draci Oci a > cajova ruze (nekdy tez Strawberry Tea). Priznam se, ze mezi Cajovou ruzi neznam a Stribrite bila jahudka mi pripada chutove stejna jako Draci oci. Ja bych volil Draci oci, protoze si mohu nabrat mensi mnozstvi (jen tak asi sedm kulicek) a z tech bych vypil tri ctyri nalevy, nebo i vic, to kazdy pozna sam. Nekdo rad popiji pred spanim horkou vodu a vzpomina na caj, ktery mel pred chvili, nekdo treba ne ;-) Rozhodne mi jahudka ci ruze pripadaji pro osameleho pijaka jako velka porce, kterou nestoji za to nacinat, pokud nehodlam vypit opravdu hodne caje. Caj, Stepan >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Fri Oct 9 13:14:29 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA26883 for caj-outgoing; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:14:29 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA26880 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:14:29 +0200 Received: from matsrv.math.cas.cz (IDENT:kasal@math-gw.math.cas.cz [147.231.89.66]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA03617 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:14:27 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from kasal@localhost) by matsrv.math.cas.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA04801; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:14:08 +0200 From: Stepan Kasal Message-Id: <199810091114.NAA04801@matsrv.math.cas.cz> Subject: Caj: Vicenalevovy. To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:14:07 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <199810061329.JAA14589@localhost.> from "Bent" at Oct 6, 98 01:13:42 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Dobry den, uz jsem komentoval neci prispevek, ted budu pro zmenu povidat samostatne: > Zajimaly by mne postupy jak pripravujete vicenalevovy zeleny caj. Jak uz rekl Ivan, neni jednoznacne rozliseni, ktere caje lze pripravovat na vice nalevu, ale jsou to krome zelenych (Long Jing, lepsi japonska Sencha) veklice casto caje polofermentovane (napr. Formosa Dung Ti). Povazuji za vhodne, aby caj byl popijen ve spolecnosti (aspon dva lide), aby byla malinka konvice (0,2 l) s vickem, a malinke hrnicky. A samozrejme druha konvicka, treba i bez vicka, na hotovy napoj. Neni-li clovek sam, muze pouzit i vetsi konvicku, ale pro osameleho pijaka by bylo lepe zakoupit misku s vickem (podrobnosti zjistim na pozadani), kdyz uz nelze sehnat malou konvicku (nebo nekomu pripada draha). Takovou misku s vickem myslim misto konvicky, na piti musi byt jina. Caj nejprve proplachneme (zalit a ihned vodu vylit), a to vodou teploty 80 C, u nekterych caju i jen 60, jako na prvni nalev. Pak postupne pripravujeme jednotlive nalevy. Voda nesmi byt vrouci, jak jsem jiz rekl. Mezi nalevy by listky nemely vychladnout, proto konvicku (misku) nechavame proklopenou (ci dokonce polevame vrelou vodou). Jednotlive nalevy se luhuji asi dve minuty, opet se jiste bude lisit podle druhu. Nektere navody rikaji, ze se ma doba luhovani u dalsich nalevu prodluzovat (napr. prvni 1:30, druhy 1:40, atd.), ja bych daval vetsi vahu rade, ze se ma zvysovat teplota vody, ci alespon, ze posledni nalev se jiz pripravuje z vrouci vody. Tak takhle nejak vypada cinska/taiwanska tradice, pokud vim. Nekdo uvadel vietnamskou, ktera je jina. Pokud zmineny vietnamsky caj je ten obycejny Vietnam, ktery znam ja, tak bych ocekaval, ze pujde udelat tak dva nalevy, prvni 80 stupnu, druhy vrouci vodou. A vzdycky bude mit caj trochu sviravejsi chut, protoze Vietnam proste takovy je. Caj, Stepan >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Fri Oct 9 16:35:29 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA28056 for caj-outgoing; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 16:35:29 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA28053 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 16:35:28 +0200 Received: from web.gego.cz (ns.gego.cz [195.22.48.254]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA09074 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 16:35:27 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ruml (ppp252.cc.terminal.cz [195.70.133.252]) by web.gego.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA23234 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 16:35:18 +0200 Message-ID: <000401bdf391$fed01860$fc8546c3@ruml> From: "Ivan Ruml" To: Subject: Caj: Re: Vicenalevovy. Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:14:05 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz -----Původní zpráva----- Od: Stepan Kasal Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz Datum: 9. října 1998 13:15 Předmět: Caj: Vicenalevovy. >Dobry den, > uz jsem komentoval neci prispevek, ted budu pro zmenu povidat samostatne: > >> Zajimaly by mne postupy jak pripravujete vicenalevovy zeleny caj. > > Neni-li clovek sam, muze pouzit i vetsi konvicku, ale pro osameleho pijaka >by bylo lepe zakoupit misku s vickem (podrobnosti zjistim na pozadani), > Stepan > Takova miska se jmenuje čabei a je k dostani v cajovne v Zahoranskeho ulici 6. Na uslechtile caje pro osamoceneho cloveka nevim o nicem lepsim. Ivan >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 12 15:59:28 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA01834 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 15:59:28 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA01831 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 15:59:27 +0200 Received: from ara.zf.jcu.cz (root@ara.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA16461 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 15:59:27 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from zf.jcu.cz (draco.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.2]) by ara.zf.jcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA15058 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 15:59:20 +0200 Message-ID: <36220B3E.A7F66184@zf.jcu.cz> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 15:59:27 +0200 From: Libor Matousek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cajovy dychanek Subject: Caj: Gong-fu... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz ...nebo take kungfu styl pripravy caje /mohl by zajimat stejne tak osamocene, jako i skupinove pijaky caje/ jsem nasel krome nektere psane cajove literatury take na Internetu /Holy Mountain - www.holymtn.com/. Psal jsem o tomto zpusobu pripravy caje, ale je to uz delsi dobu a zajem o hodnotny cajovy zazitek podle Vasich poznamek vzrusta. K tomuto obradu /kungfu v prekladu znamena styl stareho muze/ se pouzivaji male a podle meho nazoru jedinecne a dokonale hlinene konvicky /vetsinou Yixing/, ktere jsou vsak, jak jiz psal Stepan trosku drahe, ale kazdopadne se vyplati /ja osobne mam dve a tim nekoncim/. Do 1/3 az 1/2 se Yixing naplni cajovymi listky /samozrejmosti je vyhrata konvicka/ a zaleje horkou, nekdy i vrouci vodou. Necha se louhovat velmi kratkou dobu, cca. pul minuty a pak se rozleva do salku. Dalsi nalevy /myslim, ze alespon 4/ pak nechavame vzdy o 10 az 15 sekund dele nez nalev prvni. Vtip by mel byt v tom, ze jednotlive nalevy chutnaji temer stejne. Zkousel jsem tento zpusob pripravy. Vyzaduje to jen vice casu, ale vysledek stoji za to. Doporucuji. Nektere informace, ktere jsem uvedl najdete take na vyse uvedene strance /angl./ pod odkazem "Chinese Tea Ceremony" a take v ceske cajove literature. Preji dobrou chut..... Libor Matousek "MATY" e-mail: matoul01@zf.jcu.cz www: http://www.mujweb.cz/www/kychanek/kychanek.htm >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 13 09:30:22 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA03724 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:30:22 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA03721 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:30:21 +0200 Received: from gate.hob.cz (gate.hob.cz [193.179.115.19]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA30600 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:30:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by gate.hob.cz (8.8.2/8.8.2) id JAA03211 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:30:17 +0200 Received: from primus.hob.cz(172.21.1.16) by gate.hob.cz via smap (V2.1) id xma003209; Tue, 13 Oct 98 09:30:13 +0200 Received: by primus.hob.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <4NT1S7P0>; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:32:12 +0200 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?H=E1jek_Ctirad?= To: "'caj@dione.zcu.cz'" Subject: Caj: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Nefritov=FD_prsten?= Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:32:01 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Koupil jsem si caj Nefritovy prsten. Udajne se jedna o smes cerneho a zeleneho caje s kvety Osmanu. Caj je Japonsky. Vite nekdo prosim, co je to Osman? Take se mi nezda ta smes? Znate nekdo tento caj? Ctirad >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 13 09:36:37 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA03809 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:36:37 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA03806 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:36:36 +0200 Received: from atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz (atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz [195.113.31.123]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA30703 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:36:35 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from alfik (boo.ms.mff.cuni.cz [195.113.18.94]) by atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA12864 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:36:37 +0200 Message-ID: <003101bdf685$0eba1000$5e1271c3@alfik.ms.mff.cuni.cz> From: "Vit Novak" To: Subject: Caj: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Re:_Nefritov=FD_prsten?= Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:39:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.0 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz >Koupil jsem si caj Nefritovy prsten. Udajne se jedna o smes cerneho >a zeleneho caje s kvety Osmanu. Caj je Japonsky. >Vite nekdo prosim, co je to Osman? Take se mi nezda ta smes? >Znate nekdo tento caj? > Osmanthus je subtropicky ker/strom, jeho kvety se pouzivaji jako pridavek do caje snad celkem tradicne (tj. neni to vymysl poslednich deseti ale spis poslednich tisicu let). Potkat ho lze v kombinaci v Oolongu a v zelenem caji. Co se tyce smesi cerneho a zeleneho caje, to je asi vymysl docela novy. Ale nemyslim si, ze by to bylo spatne. Poprve jsem se s tim setkal v Dobre cajovna (Vzpominka na Boston (R), maji k tomu i moc peknou legendu), od te doby mne vyslovene uchvatila Samba (Oxalis), kterazto spociva ve smesi c/z caje a kvitku mesicku. Proti osmanthu mam jedinou vyhradu, ze totiz rychle vycichne. >Ctirad > Vitek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 13 09:43:06 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA03858 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:43:06 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA03855 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:43:05 +0200 Received: from sun.fsid.cvut.cz (sun.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA30925 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:43:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from student.fsid.cvut.cz (student.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.3]) by sun.fsid.cvut.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA19750 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 07:42:52 GMT Received: from FSICD1/SpoolDir by student.fsid.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.21); 13 Oct 98 09:42:52 MET-1MEST Received: from SpoolDir by FSICD1 (Mercury 1.21); 13 Oct 98 09:42:42 MET-1MEST From: "Jan Kasparek, student" Organization: FSI CVUT, Prague To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:42:37 MET-1MEST Subject: Re: Caj: Netiketa X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-ID: <164EBB80FCE@student.fsid.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Souhlasim. STRAKA > Date sent: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 10:23:32 +0100 > From: Pavel Baxa > Organization: ZCU Plzen > To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Subject: Caj: Netiketa > Send reply to: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Drazi pratele! > > Mam obrovskou radost z toho, ze tahle konference takto > ozila a ze je nas tolik (uz pres 40). Priznam se, ze takovy > zajem jsem zprvu neocekaval a o to vic me tesi. > > Presto se musim na chvili stat neprijemnym a promluvit vam > do duse. Stejne jako cajovy obrad, ktery, ma-li probehnout > k vseobecne spokojenosti pritomnych, zachovava jista dobre > znama a lety osvedcena pravidla chovani jednotlivych > zucastnenych, meli bychom se i my ridit jistymi zasadami, > aby se z pratelskeho rozhovoru nestalo zmatene blaboleni > a prekrikovani. > > O cem ze to mluvim? > > Prave jsem dostal zpravu, jejiz obsah byl nasledujici: > 1 radka textu, na kterou se reaguje > 2 radky textu - odpovedi > 1 slovo - podpis > 79 (!) radek textu z mnoha predeslych zprav. > Ja vim, ze je dobre, kdyz se da poznat, nac pisatel reaguje, > ale zkuste pri odpovidani vyhazet zbytecne radky, hlavne cizi > signatury. Vyrazne se tim usetri misto v mailboxech a ti z nas, > kteri za e-mail plati, take neco usetri. > > No a pak je taky doby napad pouzivat Subject (predmet, nadpis > zpravy) k jeho puvodnimu ucelu, tj. strucne naznacit obsah zpravy. > Pokud nekdo menite tema hovoru, pak zmente prosim i Subject. > Usnadnite tim vsem orientaci v tech vice nez 200 zpravach, ktere > prosly touto konferenci od jejiho vzniku na zacatku roku. > > > Diky moc > > Pavel Baxa > __________________________________ Jan Straka Kasparek E-mail: kasparek@student.fsid.cvut.cz http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek Pozvanka pro cajomilce: http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek/tea.htm >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 13 16:22:33 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA13230 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:22:33 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA13227 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:22:32 +0200 Received: from ara.zf.jcu.cz (root@ara.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA10601 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:22:32 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from zf.jcu.cz (draco.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.2]) by ara.zf.jcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA07568 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:22:31 +0200 Message-ID: <3623622C.546AC943@zf.jcu.cz> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:22:36 +0200 From: Libor Matousek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cajovy dychanek Subject: Caj: Re: Gong-fu... References: <36220B3E.A7F66184@zf.jcu.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ani tenhle dlouhy mail nedosel, kam mel a bylo by mi ho lito: Libor Matousek wrote: > ...nebo take kungfu styl pripravy caje /mohl by zajimat stejne tak > osamocene, jako i skupinove pijaky caje/ jsem nasel krome nektere psane > cajove literatury take na Internetu /Holy Mountain - www.holymtn.com/. > Psal jsem o tomto zpusobu pripravy caje, ale je to uz delsi dobu a zajem > o hodnotny cajovy zazitek podle Vasich poznamek vzrusta. > K tomuto obradu /kungfu v prekladu znamena styl stareho muze/ se > pouzivaji male a podle meho nazoru jedinecne a dokonale hlinene konvicky > /vetsinou Yixing/, ktere jsou vsak, jak jiz psal Stepan trosku drahe, > ale kazdopadne se vyplati /ja osobne mam dve a tim nekoncim/. Do 1/3 az > 1/2 se Yixing naplni cajovymi listky /samozrejmosti je vyhrata konvicka/ > a zaleje horkou, nekdy i vrouci vodou. Necha se louhovat velmi kratkou > dobu, cca. pul minuty a pak se rozleva do salku. Dalsi nalevy /myslim, > ze alespon 4/ pak nechavame vzdy o 10 az 15 sekund dele nez nalev > prvni. Vtip by mel byt v tom, ze jednotlive nalevy chutnaji temer > stejne. > Zkousel jsem tento zpusob pripravy. Vyzaduje to jen vice casu, ale > vysledek stoji za to. Doporucuji. Nektere informace, ktere jsem uvedl > najdete take na vyse uvedene strance /angl./ pod odkazem "Chinese Tea > Ceremony" a take v ceske cajove literature. > > Preji dobrou chut..... > > Libor Matousek "MATY" > e-mail: matoul01@zf.jcu.cz > www: > http://www.mujweb.cz/www/kychanek/kychanek.htm >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 13 16:43:35 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA13576 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:43:35 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA13573 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:43:34 +0200 Received: from helios5.civ.zcu.cz (helios5.civ.zcu.cz [147.228.103.25]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA11292 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:43:33 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (kotala@localhost) by helios5.civ.zcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA05019 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:43:33 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: helios5.civ.zcu.cz: kotala owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:43:32 +0200 (MET DST) From: Zdenek Kotala X-Sender: kotala@helios5.civ.zcu.cz To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Problemy s mailem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Vazeni cajovnici! Vzhledem k tomu, ze na ZCU se behem prazdnin predelavala kompletni struktura site, dochazi obcas k pozirani mailu a nebo jejich zpozdovani. Proto prosim vsechny ucastniky o schovivavost. Zdenek Kotala PS: Projistotu zkontroluji konfiguraci konference a serveru. PSS: Don't panic! >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 13 17:08:11 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA13776 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 17:08:11 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA13773 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 17:08:10 +0200 Received: from ara.zf.jcu.cz (root@ara.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA11818 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 17:08:09 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from zf.jcu.cz (draco.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.2]) by ara.zf.jcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA08843 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 17:08:08 +0200 Message-ID: <36236CDD.4FCE7DD2@zf.jcu.cz> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 17:08:13 +0200 From: Libor Matousek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Problemy s mailem References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Zdenek Kotala wrote: > Vazeni cajovnici! > > Vzhledem k tomu, ze na ZCU se behem prazdnin predelavala > kompletni struktura site, dochazi obcas k pozirani mailu > a nebo jejich zpozdovani. Proto prosim vsechny ucastniky o > schovivavost. > > Zdenek Kotala > > PS: Projistotu zkontroluji konfiguraci konference a serveru. > PSS: Don't panic! Diky za uklidneni... uz to zase chodi normalne. Mozna bych mel jeden napad: UDELAT CAJOVOU KECARNU... uz bych i vedel kde. Mohli bychom si popovidat a hlavne hned odpovidat, kdyby se par lidi naslo a dalo si spicha.... nemuselo by to byt pouhe placani do vetru. Popremyslej, nebo to muzu navrhnou osazenstvu Dychanku !!! tesilo nas prijdte zas Libor Matousek "Maty" e-mail: matoul01@zf.jcu.cz maty_junior@post.cz www: http://www.mujweb.cz/www/kychanek/kychanek.htm >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Wed Oct 14 11:37:29 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA16503 for caj-outgoing; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:37:29 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA16500 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:37:29 +0200 Received: from sun.fsid.cvut.cz (sun.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA25801 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:37:28 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from student.fsid.cvut.cz (student.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.3]) by sun.fsid.cvut.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA14487 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 09:37:04 GMT Received: from FSICD1/SpoolDir by student.fsid.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.21); 14 Oct 98 11:37:05 MET-1MEST Received: from SpoolDir by FSICD1 (Mercury 1.21); 14 Oct 98 11:36:37 MET-1MEST From: "Jan Kasparek, student" Organization: FSI CVUT, Prague To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:36:30 MET-1MEST Subject: Caj: IRC a CAJ X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-ID: <17ED4EC1D08@student.fsid.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Byl tu navrh na zrizeni pokecu pro cajomilce. Na IRC by mel byt stale otevreny kanal #caj tak se tam nekdy ukazte. STRAKA__________________________________ Jan Straka Kasparek E-mail: kasparek@student.fsid.cvut.cz http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek Pozvanka pro cajomilce: http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek/tea.htm >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Wed Oct 14 12:59:56 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA16999 for caj-outgoing; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:59:56 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA16996 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:59:55 +0200 From: LToman@zivpo.cz Received: from zp999a.zivpo.cz (ms.zivpo.cz [195.146.106.228]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA28496 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:59:53 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by ZP999A with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id <4X51J3MA>; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:58:35 +0200 Message-ID: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A39A42F82@PUEX1C1> To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: RE: IRC a CAJ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:58:27 +0200 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Mel byt? To neni presne... Udrzuju to tam stale... a stale nikdo nechodi... > Byl tu navrh na zrizeni pokecu pro cajomilce. Na IRC by mel byt > stale otevreny kanal #caj tak se tam nekdy ukazte. > STRAKA__________________________________ >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Wed Oct 14 13:21:40 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA17238 for caj-outgoing; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 13:21:40 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA17235 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 13:21:39 +0200 Received: from sun.fsid.cvut.cz (sun.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA29306 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 13:21:38 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from student.fsid.cvut.cz (student.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.3]) by sun.fsid.cvut.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA17063 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:21:14 GMT Received: from FSICD1/SpoolDir by student.fsid.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.21); 14 Oct 98 13:21:14 MET-1MEST Received: from SpoolDir by FSICD1 (Mercury 1.21); 14 Oct 98 13:21:05 MET-1MEST From: "Jan Kasparek, student" Organization: FSI CVUT, Prague To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 13:21:01 MET-1MEST Subject: Caj: Caj na vandru X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-ID: <18092FF28AE@student.fsid.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Chtel bych se poptat, jake mate zkusenosti s varenym cajem na otevrenem ohni v prirode. Dosahuje alespon trochu pitneho caje nebo pro tyto pripady misto Dracich oci pouzivate Pigi?? Mne se vetsinou povede neco co voni kourem jako Hojicha, chut je velice zajimava a na povrchu je skvrna jak od tankeru Exon Valdes. Na druhou stranu je pravda, ze varim caje prevazne pytlikove (na vandru) a samozrejme v esusu. Takze to mluvi samo za sebe. Ale presto rad uvitam vase vlastni poznatky a zkusenosti. STRAKA__________________________________ Jan Straka Kasparek E-mail: kasparek@student.fsid.cvut.cz http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek Pozvanka pro cajomilce: http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek/tea.htm >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Wed Oct 14 15:10:28 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA17792 for caj-outgoing; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 15:10:28 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA17789 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 15:10:27 +0200 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA32734 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 15:10:26 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA14978 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 15:10:26 +0200 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 14 Oct 98 15:10:06 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 14 Oct 98 15:09:45 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 15:09:38 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Caj na vandru X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <15689C56A18@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Chtel bych se poptat, jake mate zkusenosti s varenym cajem na > otevrenem ohni v prirode. Dosahuje alespon trochu pitneho caje nebo > pro tyto pripady misto Dracich oci pouzivate Pigi?? > Mne se vetsinou povede neco co voni kourem jako Hojicha, chut je > velice zajimava a na povrchu je skvrna jak od tankeru Exon Valdes. > Na druhou stranu je pravda, ze varim caje prevazne pytlikove (na > vandru) a samozrejme v esusu. Takze to mluvi samo za sebe. Ale presto > rad uvitam vase vlastni poznatky a zkusenosti. No, spravny dotaz. Samotneho me to zajima. V dobach meho vandrovani to bylo skoro cloveku jedno, co pije (stejne moc vysoky vyber nebyl), obcas to bylo i vyvarene jehlici. Ted uz jsme ale meli par nutkani vyrazit i s cajovym nadobickem a udelat si pravy cajik na ohni...to je totiz to nejlepsi teplo, ktere do te vody clovek muze dostat. Ale zatim zustalo u nutkani :-) Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Wed Oct 14 15:57:06 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA18310 for caj-outgoing; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 15:57:06 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA18307 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 15:57:04 +0200 Received: from dahlia.mendelu.cz (dahlia.mendelu.cz [195.178.72.10]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA01805 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 15:57:03 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from dahlia.mendelu.cz (dahlia.mendelu.cz [195.178.72.10]) by dahlia.mendelu.cz (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA08757 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 15:55:12 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 15:55:12 +0200 (MET DST) From: Ivo Jancik To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Co je `cajova bible'? In-Reply-To: <15689C56A18@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Dobreho dne vsem pozivacum caje. Rad bych se nekoho zasvecenejsiho, nez jsem ja, zeptal, ktere knize se to vlastne rika `cajova bible'. Totiz, v knize Vune caje je uvedena stara cinska `Ccha-t'ing' basnika Lu Ju (tzv. The Holy Scripture of Tea); a zase z jineho zdroje jsem timto terminem slysel oznacovat knizecku jedne japonske pani, Kazuko Okakura, ktera ji sepsala pod nazvem `The Book of Tea'. Ci jsou `biblemi' obe? Diky, Ivos. ------------------------------ jancik@mendelu.cz http://dahlia.mendelu.cz/~jancik >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Fri Oct 16 16:22:37 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA00415 for caj-outgoing; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:22:37 +0200 Received: from eros.zcu.cz (eros.zcu.cz [147.228.1.10]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA02308 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:00:28 +0200 Received: from atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz (atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz [195.113.31.123]) by eros.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA00691 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:27:31 +0200 Received: from alfik (boo.ms.mff.cuni.cz [195.113.18.94]) by atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA25901 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:24:20 +0200 Message-ID: <009801bdf8de$d71be680$5e1271c3@alfik.ms.mff.cuni.cz> From: "Vit Novak" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Caj na vandru Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:27:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.0 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz >> Chtel bych se poptat, jake mate zkusenosti s varenym cajem na >> otevrenem ohni v prirode. Pro ty, kdoz uznavaji za caj datu mohu smele prohlasit, ze data muze dopadnout ve volne prirode velmi dobre. Zkousel jsem to. Te jen tak neco neublizi ;) Vitek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 19 09:16:19 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA00720 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:16:19 +0200 Received: from eros.zcu.cz (eros.zcu.cz [147.228.1.10]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA00714 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:16:18 +0200 Received: from localhost. (ns.speed.cz [212.20.64.94]) by eros.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA09666 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 15:26:44 +0200 Received: from pc by localhost. (8.8.4/SMI-SVR4) id JAA07771; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:13:33 -0400 Message-Id: <199810161313.JAA07771@localhost.> From: "Bent" To: Subject: Caj: Re: Caj na vandru Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:59:57 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id JAA00715 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Chtel bych se poptat, jake mate zkusenosti s varenym cajem na > otevrenem ohni v prirode. Dosahuje alespon trochu pitneho caje nebo > pro tyto pripady misto Dracich oci pouzivate Pigi?? > Mne se vetsinou povede neco co voni kourem jako Hojicha, chut je > velice zajimava a na povrchu je skvrna jak od tankeru Exon Valdes. > Na druhou stranu je pravda, ze varim caje prevazne pytlikove (na > vandru) a samozrejme v esusu. Takze to mluvi samo za sebe. Ale presto > rad uvitam vase vlastni poznatky a zkusenosti. > STRAKA Osobne si nedovedu vandr bez caje predstavit. Je to jedna z nezbytnych veci (hned za ni nasleduje rum :-). Neberu sebou zadne super sorty, docela se mi osvedcil gruzinsky. Priprava na vandru ma svoje vyhody. Tak predevsim voda. Pokud jedete spravnym smerem neni problem naplanovat cestu k prameni a ziskat tak perfektni vodu. Na druhe strane s sebou musite tahnout keramicky hrnek (pit varici caj z esusu je "vo hubu" :-) Dale presto, ze je to proti etikete, doporucuji kovove vajicko, nebo neco podobneho (dve konve jsou pro lidi, kteri berou zaroven serpu :-) Zkusil jsem take oba druhy pripravy: 1/ na ohni, coz se hodi hlavne pro vic osob a vetsi kotlik. Napada tam ovsem plno sazi ve chvili kdy kontrolujete zda voda uz vari.Vyjde z toho Lapsang Souchong. 2/ na plynovem varici. Doporucuji brat s sebou keramicky. Je sice drazsi a tezsi, ale ma velkou tepelnou setrvacnost a udrzi caj dele teply. Casto jsem redil caj rumem. Vznika z toho napoj se slusnou energetickou hodnotou, ktera je napr. v horach zapotrebi. Zasoby se pohybovali cca 10dkg caje/2 osoby/3dny Pit teply cajik treba ve Vysokych Tatrach 2000m nad morem s nadhernym rozhledem do zasnezeneho udoli, z vyborne pramenite vody, ktera tryska ze skaly...to je balada. Prispevek nedosel, tak ho posilam znova. Michael >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 19 09:22:11 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA00821 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:22:11 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA00818 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:22:10 +0200 Received: from gate.hob.cz (gate.hob.cz [193.179.115.19]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA02870 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:22:09 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by gate.hob.cz (8.8.2/8.8.2) id JAA24980 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:22:06 +0200 Received: from primus.hob.cz(172.21.1.16) by gate.hob.cz via smap (V2.1) id xma024978; Mon, 19 Oct 98 09:21:46 +0200 Received: by primus.hob.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <45VCD5P3>; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:23:44 +0200 Message-ID: From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?H=E1jek_Ctirad?= To: "'caj@dione.zcu.cz'" Subject: ohen RE: Caj: Caj na vandru Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:23:43 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Souhlasim, take pripravuji vodu na caj na ohni, rychlovarnou konvici > nepouzivam, > i kdyz ani ne tak z duvodu chutovych, jako pocitovych. > > Ctirad > > P.S. ohen je na plynovem sporaku :-) > > Ted uz jsme ale meli par nutkani vyrazit i s > cajovym nadobickem a udelat si pravy cajik na ohni...to je totiz to > nejlepsi teplo, ktere do te vody clovek muze dostat. Ale zatim zustalo u > nutkani :-) > > Pavel > > mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz > http://geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek > > >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 19 09:22:40 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA00848 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:22:40 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA00845 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:22:39 +0200 Received: from gate.hob.cz (gate.hob.cz [193.179.115.19]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA02919 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:22:38 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by gate.hob.cz (8.8.2/8.8.2) id JAA24986 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:22:36 +0200 Received: from primus.hob.cz(172.21.1.16) by gate.hob.cz via smap (V2.1) id xma024983; Mon, 19 Oct 98 09:22:13 +0200 Received: by primus.hob.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <45VCD5PP>; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:24:11 +0200 Message-ID: From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?H=E1jek_Ctirad?= To: "'caj@dione.zcu.cz'" Subject: Caj: porcelan Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:24:11 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > V cem obvykle pripravujete caj a z ceho ho pijete? > V posledni dobe je moderni pit caj z keramiky od malych vyrobcu - umelcu. > Ja jsem konzervativni a davam prednost porcelanovym soupravam. > Idealni je tenky az prusvitny porcelan. Siroky salek bez zdobeni, jen > v ciste bile barve. Z dostupnych ceskych napriklad Bernardotte. > > Ctirad > > >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 19 11:29:12 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA01512 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:29:12 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA01502; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:29:08 +0200 Received: from helios9.civ.zcu.cz (helios9.civ.zcu.cz [147.228.103.29]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA08092; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:29:08 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (kotala@localhost) by helios9.civ.zcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA02973; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:29:07 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: helios9.civ.zcu.cz: kotala owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:29:07 +0200 (MET DST) From: Zdenek Kotala X-Sender: kotala@helios9.civ.zcu.cz To: sads@dione.zcu.cz, caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Vypadek konference Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Vazeny ucastnici konference! Omlouvam se za vypadek konference od stredy 14.10.98 do pondelka 19.10.98. Vypadek byl zavinen nekvalitnim hardiskem. Nyni (snad) je jiz vse OK. Zdenek Kotala Spravce Studentkeho Informacniho Serveru >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 19 12:15:37 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA01738 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:15:37 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA01735 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:15:36 +0200 Received: from rebel.radio.cz (IDENT:root@rebel.radio.cz [194.108.168.6]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA10089 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:15:32 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ierich.radio.cz (ierich.radio.cz [194.108.168.92]) by rebel.radio.cz (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id MAA02485 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:15:21 +0200 Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:13:17 +0100 (PST) From: Risko Sysala To: "'caj@dione.zcu.cz'" Subject: Re: Caj: porcelan In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-X-Sender: risko@rebel.radio.cz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id MAA01736 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz On Mon, 19 Oct 1998, [iso-8859-2] Hájek Ctirad wrote: > > V cem obvykle pripravujete caj a z ceho ho pijete? > > V posledni dobe je moderni pit caj z keramiky od malych vyrobcu - umelcu. > > Ja jsem konzervativni a davam prednost porcelanovym soupravam. > > Idealni je tenky az prusvitny porcelan. Siroky salek bez zdobeni, jen > > v ciste bile barve. Z dostupnych ceskych napriklad Bernardotte. > > > > Ctirad I ja popijim z "prusvitneho" porcelanu. Siroke bile salky s oranzovym prouzkem z tricatych let po babicce. Verte, zprijemnuji mi pohled na strechy libenskych kominu a anten. Risko >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 19 12:30:44 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA01795 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:30:44 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA01792 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:30:43 +0200 Received: from sun.fsid.cvut.cz (sun.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA10757 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:30:43 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from student.fsid.cvut.cz (student.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.3]) by sun.fsid.cvut.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA01423 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 10:29:44 GMT Received: from FSICD1/SpoolDir by student.fsid.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.21); 19 Oct 98 12:29:45 MET-1MEST Received: from SpoolDir by FSICD1 (Mercury 1.21); 19 Oct 98 12:29:23 MET-1MEST From: "Jan Kasparek, student" Organization: FSI CVUT, Prague To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:29:21 MET-1MEST Subject: Caj: Cenik Dobre cajovny X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-ID: <1F7C54651C6@student.fsid.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Received: from SpoolDir by FSICD1 (Mercury 1.21); 18 Oct 98 09:06:43 MET-1MEST Return-path: <@> Received: from sun.fsid.cvut.cz by student.fsid.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.21) with ESMTP; 18 Oct 98 09:06:40 MET-1MEST Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by sun.fsid.cvut.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA15463 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 07:06:39 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with internal id JAA24044; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 09:07:24 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 09:07:24 +0200 (MET DST) From: Mail Delivery Subsystem Message-Id: <199810180707.JAA24044@ori.zcu.cz> To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="JAA24044.908694444/ori.zcu.cz" Subject: Returned mail: Cannot send message within 3 days Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) X-PMFLAGS: 34078848 This is a MIME-encapsulated message --JAA24044.908694444/ori.zcu.cz The original message was received at Thu, 15 Oct 1998 08:53:01 +0200 (MET DST) from sun.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.4] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... 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Message could not be delivered for 3 days Message will be deleted from queue --JAA24044.908694444/ori.zcu.cz Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; ori.zcu.cz Arrival-Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 08:53:01 +0200 (MET DST) Final-Recipient: RFC822; caj@dione.zcu.cz Action: failed Status: 4.4.7 Remote-MTA: DNS; dione.zcu.cz Last-Attempt-Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 09:07:24 +0200 (MET DST) --JAA24044.908694444/ori.zcu.cz Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: Received: from sun.fsid.cvut.cz (sun.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA12426 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 08:53:01 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from student.fsid.cvut.cz (student.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.3]) by sun.fsid.cvut.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA04359 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 06:52:30 GMT Received: from FSICD1/SpoolDir by student.fsid.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.21); 15 Oct 98 08:52:31 MET-1MEST Received: from SpoolDir by FSICD1 (Mercury 1.21); 15 Oct 98 08:52:10 MET-1MEST From: "Jan Kasparek, student" Organization: FSI CVUT, Prague To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 08:52:01 MET-1MEST Subject: Katalog Spolku milcu caje X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Jan Kasparek, student" X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-ID: <1941A0B33A8@student.fsid.cvut.cz> Ahoj cajomilci!! Vcera jsem byl v Dobre cajovne na Vaclavskem namesti a objevil jsem tam za 15,- katalog nabidky Dobrych cajoven pro rok 1998. Takze vas na to vsechny upozornuju. Taky tam maji "Vuni caje" za 129,-. STRAKA P.S: Brzo by mel byt i na nize uvedenych strankach.__________________________________ Jan Straka Kasparek E-mail: kasparek@student.fsid.cvut.cz http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek Pozvanka pro cajomilce: http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek/tea.htm >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 20 09:50:50 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA05368 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 09:50:50 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA05365 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 09:50:48 +0200 Received: from okusrv.oku-cl.cz (oku-dlink-eth.clnet.cz [193.165.96.214]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA03547 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 09:50:36 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mojtek.oku-cl.cz (mojtek.oku-cl.cz [193.165.97.135]) by okusrv.oku-cl.cz (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA07764 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 09:49:48 +0200 Message-ID: <005f01bdfbfe$462f1e80$8761a5c1@mojtek.oku-cl.cz> From: "Pavel Mojtek" To: Subject: Caj: Re: Cenik Dobre cajovny Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 09:50:13 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz >Vcera jsem byl v Dobre cajovne na Vaclavskem namesti a objevil jsem >tam za 15,- katalog nabidky Dobrych cajoven pro rok 1998. Takze vas >na to vsechny upozornuju. Taky tam maji "Vuni caje" za 129,-. >STRAKA > >P.S: Brzo by mel byt i na nize uvedenych strankach.__________________________________ >Jan Straka Kasparek Mily Jane, dekuji za upozorneni na katalog,a i ja bych Te rad na neco upozornil.S Tvoji zpravou mi prisla velka spousta sena tj. udaju nikoho nezajimajici(snad krome spravce).Tady nevim kde je chyba(muze to nekdo zjistit?),ale nedavno se tady nekdo rozepisoval o nutnosti omezovat quotovany text na minimum,ty jsi ho CELY oquotoval pripsal jsi "Souhlasim STRAKA" a poslal zpet.Davej si, prosim Te, na to pozor. Ted zpet k salku.Mne by zajimalo obsahuje li Tebou zminovany katalog k jednotlivym cajum alespon strucny popisek,legendu ci pokec Ahoj Pavel >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 20 10:22:38 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA05623 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:22:38 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA05620 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:22:38 +0200 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA04672 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:22:37 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA31251 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:22:32 +0200 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 20 Oct 98 10:21:30 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 20 Oct 98 10:21:08 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:21:01 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: porcelan X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <1E1C13162EF@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > V cem obvykle pripravujete caj a z ceho ho pijete? > > V posledni dobe je moderni pit caj z keramiky od malych vyrobcu - umelcu. > > Ja jsem konzervativni a davam prednost porcelanovym soupravam. > > Idealni je tenky az prusvitny porcelan. Siroky salek bez zdobeni, jen > > v ciste bile barve. Z dostupnych ceskych napriklad Bernardotte. Pij z ceho chces, hlavne kdyz ti chutna :-)). Ale pro doplneni...mam rad misticky bez ouska...a zrovna ty od malych vyrobcu. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 20 10:32:04 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA05779 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:32:04 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA05776 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:32:04 +0200 Received: from gate.hob.cz (gate.hob.cz [193.179.115.19]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA05004 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:32:02 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by gate.hob.cz (8.8.2/8.8.2) id KAA02017 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:31:45 +0200 Received: from primus.hob.cz(172.21.1.16) by gate.hob.cz via smap (V2.1) id xma002002; Tue, 20 Oct 98 10:31:27 +0200 Received: by primus.hob.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <45VCD5Z6>; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:32:32 +0200 Message-ID: From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?H=E1jek_Ctirad?= To: "'caj@dione.zcu.cz'" Subject: RE: Caj: porcelan Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:32:30 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Rad bych se zastavil jeste u konvicek. Ty male konvicky z keramiky s mistickami jsou docela hezke. Problem je v tom, ze ja jsem velky pijak :-) Proste, kdyz mam navstevu, tak porcelanovou konev (asi 1,2l) vypijeme za 15-20 minut. Kdybych mel malou konvicku, musel bych se na chvili prestat venovat navsteve a opet pripravovat caj. Ctirad > Pij z ceho chces, hlavne kdyz ti chutna :-)). Ale pro doplneni...mam > rad misticky bez ouska...a zrovna ty od malych vyrobcu. > > Pavel > > mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz > http://geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek > >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 20 13:46:55 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA07108 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:46:55 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA07105 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:46:53 +0200 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA12725 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:46:53 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04707 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:46:53 +0200 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 20 Oct 98 13:45:52 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 20 Oct 98 13:45:32 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:45:26 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Re: Cenik Dobre cajovny X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <1E5296D294B@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Ted zpet k salku.Mne by zajimalo obsahuje li Tebou zminovany katalog k > jednotlivym cajum > alespon strucny popisek,legendu ci pokec Je tam strucny popisek, nekdy situace, pri ktere se ma cajik pit (takova ta klasika od Milcu caje). A cena. Kdo nema vyplati se koupit. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 20 13:52:21 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA07154 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:52:21 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA07151 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:52:21 +0200 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA12891 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:52:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04860 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:52:20 +0200 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 20 Oct 98 13:51:19 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 20 Oct 98 13:51:09 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:51:05 +100 Subject: RE: Caj: porcelan X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <1E5415A6929@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Rad bych se zastavil jeste u konvicek. Ty male konvicky z keramiky > s mistickami jsou docela hezke. Problem je v tom, ze ja jsem velky > pijak :-) > Proste, kdyz mam navstevu, tak porcelanovou konev (asi 1,2l) vypijeme > za 15-20 minut. Kdybych mel malou konvicku, musel bych se na chvili > prestat venovat navsteve a opet pripravovat caj. Jo jo jo, tak to znam moc dobre. Taky jsem se s tim dost natrapil. Holt to pak chce vice typu konvicek a pouzit vzdy tu s umernou velikosti (delaji i dva litry). A v nejhustsim navalu je pouzit vsechny. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 20 14:31:40 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA07372 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:31:40 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA07369 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:31:39 +0200 Received: from ns.felk.cvut.cz (ns.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.9]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA14224 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:31:38 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sun (sun.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.32]) by ns.felk.cvut.cz (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA07345 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:31:37 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sun43.felk.cvut.cz by sun (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28396; Tue, 20 Oct 98 14:31:39 +0200 Received: by sun43.felk.cvut.cz (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09886; Tue, 20 Oct 98 14:31:36 +0200 Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:31:35 +0200 (MET DST) From: Tregner Vaclav student 6_98_99 k336 X-Sender: xtregner@sun43 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Cc: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Re: Cenik Dobre cajovny In-Reply-To: <1E5296D294B@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Neni ten katalog nejaka zmensenina toho menu co davaj ve vsech Dobrej cajovnach? Tam je to pekna bichle. On Tue, 20 Oct 1998, Pavel Hlavacek wrote: > > Ted zpet k salku.Mne by zajimalo obsahuje li Tebou zminovany katalog k > > jednotlivym cajum > > alespon strucny popisek,legendu ci pokec > > Je tam strucny popisek, nekdy situace, pri ktere se ma cajik pit > (takova ta klasika od Milcu caje). A cena. Kdo nema vyplati se koupit. >> >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 20 15:54:51 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA07874 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:54:51 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA07871 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:54:50 +0200 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA16527 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:54:50 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09367 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:54:51 +0200 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 20 Oct 98 15:53:49 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 20 Oct 98 15:53:23 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:53:21 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Re: Cenik Dobre cajovny X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <1E74AFE193A@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Neni ten katalog nejaka zmensenina toho menu co davaj ve vsech > Dobrej cajovnach? Tam je to pekna bichle. > > > Je tam strucny popisek, nekdy situace, pri ktere se ma cajik pit > > (takova ta klasika od Milcu caje). A cena. Kdo nema vyplati se koupit. No, asi by se to tak dalo nazvat. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 20 20:38:46 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA08376 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 20:38:46 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA08373 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 20:38:45 +0200 Received: from ara.zf.jcu.cz (root@ara.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA23901 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 20:38:44 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from zf.jcu.cz (draco.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.2]) by ara.zf.jcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA09226 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 20:38:43 +0200 Message-ID: <362CD8AE.929BFDC7@zf.jcu.cz> Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 20:38:38 +0200 From: Libor Matousek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Re: Cenik Dobre cajovny References: <1E74AFE193A@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > Neni ten katalog nejaka zmensenina toho menu co davaj ve vsech > > Dobrej cajovnach? Tam je to pekna bichle. > > > > > Je tam strucny popisek, nekdy situace, pri ktere se ma cajik pit > > > (takova ta klasika od Milcu caje). A cena. Kdo nema vyplati se koupit. > > No, asi by se to tak dalo nazvat. > Caj ! Omlouvam se, ze vstupuju do debaty, ale rad bych se zeptal Pavla, jestli uz maji katalog novy = ´98/´99, protoze ja mam lonsky /za stejnou cenu/ s cinskym dedouskem vyrabejicim Lung Ching, cili mou oblibenou Draci studnu. Mozna je v novem katalogu neco navic - jinak se pridavam k doporuceni.... Libor Matousek "MATY" e-mail: matoul01@zf.jcu.cz www: http://www.mujweb.cz/www/kychanek/kychanek.htm >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 20 21:29:53 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA08472 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 21:29:53 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA08469 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 21:29:53 +0200 Received: from hermes.iol.cz ([194.228.2.35]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA24468 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 21:29:52 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from iol.cz ([194.228.132.133]) by hermes.iol.cz (Post.Office MTA Undefined release Undefined ID# 631-56737U20000L20000S0V35) with ESMTP id cz for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 21:29:20 +0200 Message-ID: <362CF3E0.922C75E@iol.cz> Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 21:34:42 +0100 From: Jiri Urbanek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: porcelan References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Hájek Ctirad wrote: > > V cem obvykle pripravujete caj a z ceho ho pijete? > > Jako novy clen teto konference zdravim vsechny milovniky caje a hned prispeji svou troskou do mlyna.Podle mne kvalitni, hlavne zeleny caj se nejlepe vyjima v salku z bileho porcelanu. Ja nejradeji pouzivam cinsky ryzovy porcelan. Pro navstevy mam velke konvice jak z porcelanu, tak i z keramiky. Pokud si pripra- vuji male mnozstvi caje varim si ho do cinskych "dusickovych" hrnicku, kterych mam dost velkou sbirku. Ale jak jsem se zmninil na zacatku, porcelan je porcelan. Zdravim Jirka >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Wed Oct 21 09:31:23 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA09495 for caj-outgoing; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 09:31:23 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA09492 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 09:31:21 +0200 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA31195 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 09:31:21 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA18622 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 09:31:20 +0200 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 21 Oct 98 09:30:13 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 21 Oct 98 09:30:01 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 09:29:53 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Re: Cenik Dobre cajovny X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <1F8E82162AF@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Omlouvam se, ze vstupuju do debaty, ale rad bych se zeptal Pavla, jestli uz > maji katalog novy = '98/'99, protoze ja mam lonsky /za stejnou cenu/ s cinskym > dedouskem vyrabejicim Lung Ching, cili mou oblibenou Draci studnu. Mozna je v > novem katalogu neco navic - jinak se pridavam k doporuceni.... Neni zac se omlouvat, od toho to tu je. Jinak si nejsem uplne jisty, ale myslim, ze se jedna stale o ten stary...aspon dedousek se nezmenil. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Wed Oct 21 09:36:47 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA09539 for caj-outgoing; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 09:36:47 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA09536 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 09:36:46 +0200 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA31164 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 09:36:46 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA18745 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 09:36:47 +0200 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 21 Oct 98 09:35:40 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 21 Oct 98 09:35:18 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 09:35:16 +100 Subject: Caj: U mesicni kocky X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <1F8FEB66038@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Vazeni cajomilci. Dovolim si v tomto clanku udelat malou reklamu relativne mlade cajovne U mesicni kocky. Nachazi se na Smichove u tramvajove zastavky Arbesovo namesti. Krome nazvu cajovna se take jedna o citarnu a antikvariat specializujici se na ruznou nejen duchovni literaturu. Caje vari dobre, prostredi je velmi prijemne, ani ne jako cajovna, spise jako citarnicka. Rozhodne doporucuji navstevu, aspon jako podporu zacinajiciho projektu. Vznik cajovne pry totiz zavdalo setkani lidi ruznych smeru (cajomilci, astrologove apod.) a tak ma byti predevsim mistem setkani a rokovani o vecech pozemskych i nadpozemskych (hranici mezi obema pojmy necht si umisti kazdy dle sveho). Jeste bych mel dodat, ze zde maji vseobecne velmi zajimave ceny. Pavel PS: ulice Zubateho 6 mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Wed Oct 21 13:56:44 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA11081 for caj-outgoing; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 13:56:44 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA11078 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 13:56:44 +0200 Received: from atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz (atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz [195.113.31.123]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA08597 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 13:56:43 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from alfik (boo.ms.mff.cuni.cz [195.113.18.94]) by atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA16245 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 13:56:43 +0200 Message-ID: <004e01bdfcf2$bc77e0a0$5e1271c3@alfik.ms.mff.cuni.cz> From: "Vit Novak" To: Subject: Caj: Re: U mesicni kocky Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 14:00:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.0 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ja se tedy tez pripojim s reklamou na jednu cajovnu. Tato je krestanska, pridruzena ke knihkupectvi Brana v Jecne ulici. Jmenuje se (tusim) Cajovna krale Davida a maji tam zajimave vlastni speciality a pekne (podle mne) obrazky na zdech (V. Lamr) jakoz i knizky k nahlednuti. Je dost zastrcena, takze se ji nestydim delat reklamu. Kdyz uz tam budete, muzete se zkusit zastavit na cajik taky u nas doma (Jecna 19, 2. patro, tedy ten samy dum). Pekne odpoledne Vitek (Novak) >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Wed Oct 21 16:24:25 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA12848 for caj-outgoing; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:24:25 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA12845 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:24:24 +0200 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA13766 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:24:24 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA31644 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:24:25 +0200 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 21 Oct 98 16:23:14 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 21 Oct 98 16:22:56 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:22:47 +100 Subject: Caj: Kutnohorsti X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <1FFCA671A03@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Kdo uz navstivil Dobrou cajovnu v Kutne Hore, necht se podeli. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz http://geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Wed Oct 21 16:32:00 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA13007 for caj-outgoing; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:32:00 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA13004 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:32:00 +0200 Received: from web.gego.cz (ns.gego.cz [195.22.48.254]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA14301 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:31:58 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ruml (ppp46.cc.terminal.cz [195.70.133.46]) by web.gego.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA08533 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:31:54 +0200 Message-ID: <004401bdfcff$8e52e820$073116c3@ruml> From: "Ivan Ruml" To: Subject: Caj: Re: Kutnohorsti Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:31:55 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Jde o rozsahlou problematiku, kterou nelze sdelit v kostce, bylo by to ponekud dlouhe. Informace radi sdelime, zavolejte nam a domluvime si schuzku 02/29 62 86 02/900 087 93 0603/544 749 Zdravi Ruml -----Původní zpráva----- Od: Pavel Hlavacek Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz Datum: 21. října 1998 16:25 Předmět: Caj: Kutnohorsti > Kdo uz navstivil Dobrou cajovnu v Kutne Hore, necht se podeli. > > Pavel > >mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz >http://geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz/~hlavacek > >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Wed Oct 21 16:34:39 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA13069 for caj-outgoing; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:34:39 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA13066 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:34:38 +0200 Received: from web.gego.cz (ns.gego.cz [195.22.48.254]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA14314 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:34:37 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ruml (ppp46.cc.terminal.cz [195.70.133.46]) by web.gego.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA08583 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:34:29 +0200 Message-ID: <005f01bdfcff$ead79960$073116c3@ruml> From: "Ivan Ruml" To: Subject: Caj: omluva Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:34:29 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005C_01BDFD10.ACDFE3E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005C_01BDFD10.ACDFE3E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Velmi se omlouvam, ujel mi do konference soukromy mail. 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Velmi se omlouvam, ujel mi do = konference=20 soukromy mail.
Ivan ruml
------=_NextPart_000_005C_01BDFD10.ACDFE3E0-- >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Wed Oct 21 18:32:09 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA13899 for caj-outgoing; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 18:32:09 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA13896 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 18:32:07 +0200 Received: from localhost. (ns.speed.cz [212.20.64.94]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA16920 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 18:32:07 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pc by localhost. (8.8.4/SMI-SVR4) id MAA09352; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 12:20:15 -0400 Message-Id: <199810211620.MAA09352@localhost.> From: "Bent" To: Subject: Caj: Re: Cajovny Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 18:25:27 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id SAA13897 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Je prima, ze obcas nekdo doporuci cajovnu kde byl a kde se mu libilo. Rad vetsinu tipu ozkousim. Sam se pridavam s doporucenim na cajovnu v Klatovech "U nasi dobre pani". Interier a exterier proste nadhera. Umisteni proti gotickemu kostelu, patrne ve starem mestskem opevneni. Vnitrek a posezeni perfektni (zvlaste doporucuji k prohlidce zastrcky na WC - je to unikat :-) Podle toho co jsem slysel v Klatovech u mestskych radnich zvitezil rozum nad chamtivosti a misto vsedni vinarny dali prednost tomuto zajimavemu projektu. Tenhle prostup bohuzel neni vsude bezny - skoda ze nejsem z Klatov, tu cajovnu jim fakt zavidim. Michael >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Wed Oct 21 20:36:07 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA14298 for caj-outgoing; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 20:36:07 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA14295 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 20:36:06 +0200 Received: from matsrv.math.cas.cz (IDENT:kasal@math-gw.math.cas.cz [147.231.89.66]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA19092 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 20:36:06 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from kasal@localhost) by matsrv.math.cas.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA13526 for caj@dione.zcu.cz; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 20:36:05 +0200 From: Stepan Kasal Message-Id: <199810211836.UAA13526@matsrv.math.cas.cz> Subject: Re: Caj: porcelan To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 20:36:04 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <362CF3E0.922C75E@iol.cz> from "Jiri Urbanek" at Oct 20, 98 09:34:42 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Dobry den, > Jako novy clen teto konference zdravim vsechny milovniky caje a hned prispeji > svou troskou do mlyna. Podle mne kvalitni, hlavne zeleny caj se nejlepe vyjima > v salku z bileho porcelanu. Ja nejradeji pouzivam cinsky ryzovy porcelan. dovolim si zopakovat neco myslenek z brozurky, kterou vydalo Olomoucke muzeum, myslim, ze se jmenuje Svet caje. Cinani nejradeji piji caj z takove keramiky, jejiz sedozelena barva nerusi caj. Tedy kde skoro nevidite, jestli jste tam nalili caj nebo vodu. Naproti tomu my vedci analytici z Evropy mame nejradeji vse pod mikroskopem, rybicky v akvariu, nahe zeny v televizi a caj na bilem porcelanu. (Ja jsem, az na ty zeny, presne stejny Evropan.) Proste vsechno rozebrat na soucastky a pak tomu budeme rozumet. Blesk prestal byt poslem Bozim, jakmile jsme objevili, ze je to elektrina. To rozebirani na soucastky vedlo napriklad k tomu, ze evropska civilizace si zcela znicila zivotni prostredi, aniz by si toho vsimla. Konec filosofovani. Zpet k salku Darjeelingu. Stepan >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Wed Oct 21 20:43:04 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA14367 for caj-outgoing; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 20:43:04 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA14364 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 20:43:03 +0200 Received: from ara.zf.jcu.cz (root@ara.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA19276 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 20:43:03 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from zf.jcu.cz (draco.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.2]) by ara.zf.jcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA03974 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 20:43:02 +0200 Message-ID: <362E2B2F.5983B055@zf.jcu.cz> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 20:42:55 +0200 From: Libor Matousek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: porcelan References: <199810211836.UAA13526@matsrv.math.cas.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Cinani nejradeji piji caj z takove keramiky, jejiz sedozelena barva nerusi > caj. Tedy kde skoro nevidite, jestli jste tam nalili caj nebo vodu. > Naproti tomu my vedci analytici z Evropy mame nejradeji vse pod mikroskopem, > rybicky v akvariu, nahe zeny v televizi a caj na bilem porcelanu. (Ja jsem, az > na ty zeny, presne stejny Evropan.) Proste vsechno rozebrat na soucastky a pak > tomu budeme rozumet. Blesk prestal byt poslem Bozim, jakmile jsme objevili, ze > je to elektrina. > To rozebirani na soucastky vedlo napriklad k tomu, ze evropska civilizace si > zcela znicila zivotni prostredi, aniz by si toho vsimla. > Konec filosofovani. Zpet k salku Darjeelingu. Stepan >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Wed Oct 21 21:30:11 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA14465 for caj-outgoing; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:30:11 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA14462 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:30:10 +0200 Received: from ara.zf.jcu.cz (root@ara.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA20312 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:30:10 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from zf.jcu.cz (draco.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.2]) by ara.zf.jcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA05187 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:30:09 +0200 Message-ID: <362E363A.5305EC01@zf.jcu.cz> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:30:02 +0200 From: Libor Matousek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: OMLUVA References: <199810211836.UAA13526@matsrv.math.cas.cz> <362E2B2F.5983B055@zf.jcu.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Libor Matousek wrote: OMLOUVAM se za ulitnuti mailu vlivem MASINY. > > Cinani nejradeji piji caj z takove keramiky, jejiz sedozelena barva nerusi > > caj. Tedy kde skoro nevidite, jestli jste tam nalili caj nebo vodu. > > Naproti tomu my vedci analytici z Evropy mame nejradeji vse pod mikroskopem, > > rybicky v akvariu, nahe zeny v televizi a caj na bilem porcelanu. (Ja jsem, az > > na ty zeny, presne stejny Evropan.) Proste vsechno rozebrat na soucastky a pak > > tomu budeme rozumet. Blesk prestal byt poslem Bozim, jakmile jsme objevili, ze > > je to elektrina. > > To rozebirani na soucastky vedlo napriklad k tomu, ze evropska civilizace si > > zcela znicila zivotni prostredi, aniz by si toho vsimla. > > Konec filosofovani. Zpet k salku Darjeelingu. Stepan >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 22 10:32:08 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA15883 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:32:08 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA15880 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:32:06 +0200 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA29843 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:32:06 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08864 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:32:07 +0200 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 22 Oct 98 10:30:52 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 22 Oct 98 10:30:47 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:30:43 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: porcelan X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <211ECB15876@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > tomu budeme rozumet. Blesk prestal byt poslem Bozim, jakmile jsme objevili, ze > je to elektrina. > To rozebirani na soucastky vedlo napriklad k tomu, ze evropska civilizace si > zcela znicila zivotni prostredi, aniz by si toho vsimla. Priznej se, ze na tohle jsi prisel prave nad salkem caje...a ne jen tak ledajakeho ;-))) Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 22 10:41:02 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA15968 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:41:02 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA15965 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:41:02 +0200 Received: from eryx1.zcu.cz (eryx1.zcu.cz [147.228.52.12]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA30120 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:41:01 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from uk407p01-kiv.fav.zcu.cz (uk407p01-kiv.fav.zcu.cz [147.228.43.32]) by eryx1.zcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA23340 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:41:01 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <362EFDAF.41B1@students.zcu.cz> Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:41:03 +0100 From: "Ing. Demeter Jurista" Organization: ZCU FAV KIV Plzen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: porcelan References: <211ECB15876@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Zdravim vsechny Po pravde receno proti porcelanu nic nemam, ale caj nejradeji piju z keramiky. Obzvlaste pak z tzv. terakoty, tj. neglazovane hliny. Je pravda, ze se nejprve musi salky i konvicka nechat "zajet" tj. udelat do nich hodne silny caj a ten nechat v salcich i konvickce nechat odlezet, jinak to chutna jako kdyz pijete caj z kvetinace. Kdyz je oboji "zajete" mate pred sebou nejlepsi (podle mne) material na piti caje. Mita DJ P.S. Zeptejte se Pavla Baxy >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 22 10:45:25 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA16027 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:45:25 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA16024 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:45:24 +0200 Received: from atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz (atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz [195.113.31.123]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA30224 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:45:22 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from alfik (boo.ms.mff.cuni.cz [195.113.18.94]) by atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA31566 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:45:20 +0200 Message-ID: <017001bdfda1$2a301c80$5e1271c3@alfik.ms.mff.cuni.cz> From: "Vit Novak" To: Subject: Caj: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Re:_Re:_Nefritov=FD_prsten?= Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:48:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.0 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > >>Koupil jsem si caj Nefritovy prsten. Udajne se jedna o smes cerneho >>a zeleneho caje s kvety Osmanu. Caj je Japonsky. >>Vite nekdo prosim, co je to Osman? Take se mi nezda ta smes? >>Znate nekdo tento caj? >> > Promazaval jsem ted postu a nasel jsem tento starsi mail. _Japonska_ smes cerneho a zeleneho caje je _blbooost_. Maximalne to zelene v tom bude sencha, ale cerny caj japonci proste nedelaji. Vitek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 22 10:47:19 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA16058 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:47:19 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA16055 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:47:18 +0200 Received: from helios10.civ.zcu.cz (helios10.civ.zcu.cz [147.228.103.30]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA30252 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:47:17 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (kotala@localhost) by helios10.civ.zcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA13319 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:47:17 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: helios10.civ.zcu.cz: kotala owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:47:17 +0200 (MET DST) From: Zdenek Kotala X-Sender: kotala@helios10.civ.zcu.cz To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: porcelan In-Reply-To: <362EFDAF.41B1@students.zcu.cz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz On Thu, 22 Oct 1998, Ing. Demeter Jurista wrote: > keramiky. Obzvlaste pak z tzv. terakoty, tj. neglazovane hliny. > Je pravda, ze se nejprve musi salky i konvicka nechat "zajet" tj. udelat > do nich hodne silny caj a ten nechat v salcich i konvickce nechat A neovlivni to nejak pak chut slabsich caju? Nebo je treba pro kazdy druh caje zajet jinou cajovou misku jinym silnym cajem? Hlipa >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 22 10:54:54 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA16129 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:54:54 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA16126 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:54:53 +0200 Received: from eryx1.zcu.cz (eryx1.zcu.cz [147.228.52.12]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA30687 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:54:52 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from uk407p01-kiv.fav.zcu.cz (uk407p01-kiv.fav.zcu.cz [147.228.43.32]) by eryx1.zcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA24789 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:54:52 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <362F00EE.B59@students.zcu.cz> Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:54:54 +0100 From: "Ing. Demeter Jurista" Organization: ZCU FAV KIV Plzen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: porcelan References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > A neovlivni to nejak pak chut slabsich caju? Nebo je treba pro kazdy druh > caje zajet jinou cajovou misku jinym silnym cajem? > Hlipa Hlipa, Hlipa kam to spejes... Vis mam dve sady salku male na zeleny caj a vetsi na cerne caje... Konvicka muze byt stejna, ale musi se pozvolna prechazet mezi jednotlivymi druhy. Mita DJ >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 22 11:20:54 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA16367 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 11:20:54 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA16364 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 11:20:53 +0200 Received: from web.gego.cz (ns.gego.cz [195.22.48.254]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA29890 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 11:20:50 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ruml (ppp60.cc.terminal.cz [195.70.133.60]) by web.gego.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA23380 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 11:20:36 +0200 Message-ID: <005e01bdfd9d$3e4bf4e0$298546c3@ruml> From: "Ivan Ruml" To: Subject: Re: Caj: porcelan Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 11:14:13 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Takze pratele, rad bych upozornil, ze "terakota", tj neglazovana hlina ma vlastni chut, tj. ovlivnuje nalev specielne jemnych zelenych caju. Navic ma znacnou ssavost ( proti glazure a porcelanu ). To ma za nasledek, ze velmi lehce absourbuje aroma a chut. Z toho jasne vyplyva, ze jestize si ji "zajedete" a varite si do ni svuj oblibeny Assam, je vse v poradku. Nicmene polemizuji s nazorem, ze se to da pouzit jako univerzalni konvicka pro vicero caju. Zdravi Ivan Ruml -----Původní zpráva----- Od: Ing. Demeter Jurista Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz Datum: 22. října 1998 10:41 Předmět: Re: Caj: porcelan >Zdravim vsechny > >Po pravde receno proti porcelanu nic nemam, ale caj nejradeji piju z >keramiky. Obzvlaste pak z tzv. terakoty, tj. neglazovane hliny. >Je pravda, ze se nejprve musi salky i konvicka nechat "zajet" tj. udelat >do nich hodne silny caj a ten nechat v salcich i konvickce nechat >odlezet, jinak to chutna jako kdyz pijete caj z kvetinace. >Kdyz je oboji "zajete" mate pred sebou nejlepsi (podle mne) material na >piti caje. > Mita DJ >P.S. Zeptejte se Pavla Baxy > >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 22 11:21:45 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA16390 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 11:21:45 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA16387 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 11:21:44 +0200 Received: from web.gego.cz (ns.gego.cz [195.22.48.254]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA31571 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 11:21:43 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ruml (ppp60.cc.terminal.cz [195.70.133.60]) by web.gego.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA23383 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 11:20:55 +0200 Message-ID: <005f01bdfd9d$5d446c60$298546c3@ruml> From: "Ivan Ruml" To: Subject: Caj: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Re:_Re:_Re:_Nefritov=FD_prsten?= Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 11:16:59 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Omyl Vitku, Japonsky cerny caj existuje, jenze se ho dela minimum a nikdy neopusti japonsko. Takze to asi vpraxi je jak rikas. Rozhodne smes Sweet Osmanthus (o ktere byla asi rec) zadny cerny jap. caj neobsahuje. Ivan -----Původní zpráva----- Od: Vit Novak Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz Datum: 22. října 1998 10:45 Předmět: Caj: Re: Re: Nefritový prsten >Promazaval jsem ted postu a nasel jsem tento starsi mail. > >_Japonska_ smes cerneho a zeleneho caje je _blbooost_. > >Maximalne to zelene v tom bude sencha, ale cerny caj japonci >proste nedelaji. > >Vitek > >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 22 13:26:13 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA17121 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:26:13 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA17118 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:26:12 +0200 Received: from adis.cesnet.cz (adis.cesnet.cz [194.50.6.3]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA02348 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:26:12 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from matsrv.math.cas.cz (kasal@math-gw.math.cas.cz [147.231.89.66]) by adis.cesnet.cz (8.8.8/CESNET) with ESMTP id MAA07038 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:47:43 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from kasal@localhost) by matsrv.math.cas.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA17115 for caj@dione.zcu.cz; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:41:24 +0200 From: Stepan Kasal Message-Id: <199810221041.MAA17115@matsrv.math.cas.cz> Subject: Re: Caj: porcelan To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:41:24 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <211ECB15876@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> from "Pavel Hlavacek" at Oct 22, 98 10:30:43 am Content-Type: text Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Shalom. [ne, nejsem Zid, ale snad se na mne nebudou zlobit, ze jsem si to slovo vypujcil] > Priznej se, ze na tohle jsi prisel prave nad salkem caje...a ne jen tak > ledajakeho ;-))) :-) > > tomu budeme rozumet. Blesk prestal byt poslem Bozim, jakmile jsme objevili, ze > > je to elektrina. Tak na tohle jsem prisel pri cetbe detektivek od Chestertona, caj jsem tehdy mozna ani nemel. Mozna jsem si to v Chestertonovi primo precetl. > > To rozebirani na soucastky vedlo napriklad k tomu, ze evropska civilizace si > > zcela znicila zivotni prostredi, aniz by si toho vsimla. Na tohle jsem asi prisel nad salkem caje, prinejmensim pokud se to mini obrazne. Caj, Stepan >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 22 13:40:47 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA17232 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:40:47 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA17229 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:40:46 +0200 Received: from okusrv.oku-cl.cz (oku-dlink-eth.clnet.cz [193.165.96.214]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA03359 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:40:30 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mojtek.oku-cl.cz (mojtek.oku-cl.cz [193.165.97.135]) by okusrv.oku-cl.cz (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA13421 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:40:23 +0200 Message-ID: <005e01bdfdb0$bee51ec0$8761a5c1@mojtek.oku-cl.cz> From: "Pavel Mojtek" To: Subject: Caj: Re: Re: U mesicni kocky Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:40:19 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz >Ja se tedy tez pripojim s reklamou na jednu cajovnu. Tato je krestanska, >pridruzena >ke knihkupectvi Brana v Jecne ulici. Jmenuje se (tusim) Cajovna krale Davida Doplnuje nekdo tento a jine udaje o neznamych ci vzniknuvsich cajovnach do nejakeho seznamu? Ahoj Pavel >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 22 13:43:17 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA17296 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:43:17 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA17293 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:43:16 +0200 Received: from kiv.zcu.cz (ur404p01-rek.rek.zcu.cz [147.228.71.108]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA03632; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:43:15 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <362F1A53.2CB7392@kiv.zcu.cz> Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:43:15 +0100 From: Pavel Baxa Organization: ZCU Plzen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Re: Re: U mesicni kocky References: <005e01bdfdb0$bee51ec0$8761a5c1@mojtek.oku-cl.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Pavel Mojtek wrote: > Doplnuje nekdo tento a jine udaje o neznamych ci vzniknuvsich > cajovnach do nejakeho seznamu? > Ahoj Pavel Kliiid, eviduju to. Taky Pavel, ale Baxa >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 22 13:52:53 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA17432 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:52:53 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA17429 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:52:52 +0200 Received: from sun.fsid.cvut.cz (sun.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA03979 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:52:52 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from student.fsid.cvut.cz (student.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.3]) by sun.fsid.cvut.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01891 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 11:52:49 GMT Received: from FSICD1/SpoolDir by student.fsid.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.21); 22 Oct 98 13:52:50 MET-1MEST Received: from SpoolDir by FSICD1 (Mercury 1.21); 22 Oct 98 13:52:47 MET-1MEST From: "Jan Kasparek, student" Organization: FSI CVUT, Prague To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:52:39 MET-1MEST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Caj: Seznam cajoven In-reply-to: <362F1A53.2CB7392@kiv.zcu.cz> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.54) Message-ID: <2412D1E5D83@student.fsid.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Pavel Mojtek wrote: > > Doplnuje nekdo tento a jine udaje o neznamych ci vzniknuvsich > > cajovnach do nejakeho seznamu? > > Ahoj Pavel > > Kliiid, eviduju to. > > Taky Pavel, ale Baxa Bohuzel jsem nechytil ten originalni mail, na kterej reaguje Pavel Baxa, ale nove, stare i staronove cajovny o kterych se doslechnu a vim nebo dostanu o nich nejake informace, pridavam na nize uvedenou adresu. P.S: kdyz vidim kolik stranek je o caji v Cechach, coz takhle udelat cajovej Ring?? Straka __________________________________ Jan Straka Kasparek E-mail: kasparek@student.fsid.cvut.cz http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek Pozvanka pro cajomilce: http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek/tea.htm >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 22 14:30:28 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA28499 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:30:28 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA28496 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:30:27 +0200 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA05297 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:30:27 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16800 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:30:28 +0200 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 22 Oct 98 14:30:25 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 22 Oct 98 14:30:11 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:30:05 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Seznam cajoven X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <215E5137B12@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > P.S: kdyz vidim kolik stranek je o caji v Cechach, coz takhle udelat > cajovej Ring?? Co to znaci ??? Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 22 14:46:01 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA28600 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:46:01 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA28597 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:46:00 +0200 Received: from sun.fsid.cvut.cz (sun.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA05777 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:45:59 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from student.fsid.cvut.cz (student.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.3]) by sun.fsid.cvut.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03087 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:45:57 GMT Received: from FSICD1/SpoolDir by student.fsid.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.21); 22 Oct 98 14:45:58 MET-1MEST Received: from SpoolDir by FSICD1 (Mercury 1.21); 22 Oct 98 14:45:31 MET-1MEST From: "Jan Kasparek, student" Organization: FSI CVUT, Prague To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:45:28 MET-1MEST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Caj: Cesky cajovy Web Ring In-reply-to: <215E5137B12@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.54) Message-ID: <2420E2637E6@student.fsid.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > P.S: kdyz vidim kolik stranek je o caji v Cechach, coz takhle udelat > > cajovej Ring?? > Co to znaci ??? > Pavel No pokud vim existuje treba filmovej ring. Stranky, ktery obsahujou podobny temata se seradej jakoby do kruhu. Kdyz se na jednu z nich prihlasis, ma dole (nebo nekde jinde) takovej malej vyber: napr. Na predchozi stranku cajoveho ringu Na nasledujici stranku cajoveho ringu Prvnich pet stranek cajoveho ringu Informace o cajovem ringu apod. Proste vsechny stranky se stejnym tematem odkazujou taky na ostatni. Pro nazornou ukazku: http://www.kinofil.cz a dole na strance Cesky filmovy Web Ring Tak co vy na to?? STRAKA __________________________________ Jan Straka Kasparek E-mail: kasparek@student.fsid.cvut.cz http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek Pozvanka pro cajomilce: http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek/tea.htm >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 22 16:23:12 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA29102 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:23:12 +0200 Received: from eros.zcu.cz (eros.zcu.cz [147.228.1.10]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA29099 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:23:11 +0200 Received: from localhost. (ns.speed.cz [212.20.64.94]) by eros.zcu.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA04653 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:23:06 +0200 Received: from pc by localhost. (8.8.4/SMI-SVR4) id KAA15503; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:09:34 -0400 Message-Id: <199810221409.KAA15503@localhost.> From: "Bent" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Cajovy list Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:19:28 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id QAA29100 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Konecne vyslo prvni cislo (po nultem) Cajoveho listu (Oxalis). Je v nem par zajimavych clanku: 1/Zeleny caj 2/Rooibos 3/Mate 4/Lapacho Nejvic se mi libi "Kalendar cajovych sklizni" pro 12 ruznych cajovych oblasti. Ukazuje zavislost kvality sklizeneho caje na rocnim obdobi. Uz se tesim jak si vecer u caje poctu. Kdo ma zajem zkuste nejake odberatele Oxalisu. Michael P.S. Doporuceni: Ortodoxni cajomilci neotacejte na posledni stranu. Je o kave :-)) >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 22 16:56:55 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA29299 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:56:55 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA29296 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:56:54 +0200 Received: from localhost. (ns.speed.cz [212.20.64.94]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA10991 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:56:49 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pc by localhost. (8.8.4/SMI-SVR4) id KAA09664; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:45:03 -0400 Message-Id: <199810221445.KAA09664@localhost.> From: "Bent" To: Subject: Re: Caj: porcelan Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:40:16 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id QAA29297 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Po pravde receno proti porcelanu nic nemam, ale caj nejradeji piju z > keramiky. Obzvlaste pak z tzv. terakoty, tj. neglazovane hliny. > Je pravda, ze se nejprve musi salky i konvicka nechat "zajet" tj. udelat > do nich hodne silny caj a ten nechat v salcich i konvickce nechat > odlezet, jinak to chutna jako kdyz pijete caj z kvetinace. > Mita DJ Jo, tak presne tuhle informaci jsem si nekde precetl asi 1/2 roku pote, co jsem si podobnou soupravu koupil. Cely ten pulrok jsem marne patral, kdo mi do caje strouha cihly :-) Jen si nejsem jist jestli se spravne nema caj v takoveto konvici uvarit (nemyslim louhovat). Netroufam si odhadnout jestli je tato keramika varna. Mimochodem jake mate zkusenosti s ohrivacky pod konev? Pouzivate to? Vypada to pekne, ale splnuji ucel? Michael >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 22 16:57:31 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA29320 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:57:31 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA29317 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:57:30 +0200 Received: from localhost. (ns.speed.cz [212.20.64.94]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA11172 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:57:28 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pc by localhost. (8.8.4/SMI-SVR4) id KAA12228; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:45:09 -0400 Message-Id: <199810221445.KAA12228@localhost.> From: "Bent" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Jmeno Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:54:57 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id QAA29318 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Moje oblibena konev se kterou jsem travil spoustu casu dostala jmeno ATuin (podle zelvy z knizek T.Pratchetta, ktera na zadech nese Zemeplochu). Nedavno jsem se s prekvapenim dovedel ze otazka na jmeno konvice je behem japonskeho cajoveho obradu jedno z povolenych diskusnich temat. Ti japonci jsou furt tak oficialni :-) Zajimalo by mne tedy 1/jestli je tahle informace pravdiva. 2/ Jestli mate nekdo taky nejak pojmenovanou konev. Nebo jsem tady jedinej japonec ? :-) Michael >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 22 20:02:00 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA29945 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 20:02:00 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA29942 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 20:01:55 +0200 Received: from ns.brailcom.cz (root@ns.brailcom.cz [195.212.199.66]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA15508 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 20:01:50 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from bambuch (d15.brailcom.cz [195.212.199.156]) by ns.brailcom.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA07414 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 20:01:45 +0200 Message-Id: <199810221801.UAA07414@ns.brailcom.cz> From: "Pavol Halaj" To: Subject: Re: Caj: porcelan Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 19:06:05 +0200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id UAA29943 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Zdravim cajomilce, ja mam docela dobre skusenosti s ohrivackem. V mem pripade splnuje co od nej ocekavam a udrzuje teplotu jakou si predstavuji. Chci se, ale zeptat zda nevi nekdo neco o zlutych cajich. Zatim jsem o tom pouze slysel, ale nikde jsem je nevidel prodavat. Zdravi, Palo ---------- > Odesílatel: Bent > Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Předmět: Re: Caj: porcelan > Datum: 22. října 1998 17:40 > > Po pravde receno proti porcelanu nic nemam, ale caj nejradeji piju z > > keramiky. Obzvlaste pak z tzv. terakoty, tj. neglazovane hliny. > > Je pravda, ze se nejprve musi salky i konvicka nechat "zajet" tj. udelat > > do nich hodne silny caj a ten nechat v salcich i konvickce nechat > > odlezet, jinak to chutna jako kdyz pijete caj z kvetinace. > > Mita DJ > Jo, tak presne tuhle informaci jsem si nekde precetl asi 1/2 roku > pote, co jsem si podobnou soupravu koupil. Cely ten pulrok jsem > marne patral, kdo mi do caje strouha cihly :-) Jen si nejsem jist jestli > se spravne nema caj v takoveto konvici uvarit (nemyslim louhovat). > Netroufam si odhadnout jestli je tato keramika varna. Mimochodem > jake mate zkusenosti s ohrivacky pod konev? Pouzivate to? > Vypada to pekne, ale splnuji ucel? Michael >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 22 20:30:22 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA30021 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 20:30:22 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA30018 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 20:30:22 +0200 Received: from smtp.kolej.mff.cuni.cz (smtp.kolej.mff.cuni.cz [195.113.25.225]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA15393 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 20:30:21 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail.kolej.mff.cuni.cz (mail.kolej.mff.cuni.cz [195.113.25.223]) by smtp.kolej.mff.cuni.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.0) with ESMTP id UAA08997 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 20:30:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (mpta7488@localhost) by mail.kolej.mff.cuni.cz (8.9.1/8.8.3) with SMTP id UAA17780 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 20:29:53 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 20:29:53 +0200 (CEST) From: Michal Ptak To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Genmaicha Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Zdravim vsechny cajare, nemam pojmenovanou svoji konvici, i kdyz se mi ten napad libi. Nemam pro vas ani zadnou novou cajovnu, zatim jsem byl jen v Ruzove a v Dobre (v Praze). Spokojen jsem byl. Chtel jsem se vsak zeptat, jake mate zkusenosti s japonskym cajem Genmaicha. Koupil jsem si hodeset deka v Ruzove cajovne. Rad experimentuji a zaujalo me, ze tento caj obsahuje prazenou kukurici a ryzi. Priznam se, ze zrovna na vetvi z Genmaichy nejsem. Kdybyste snad nekdo chtel vyzkouset tento druh, mam ho jeste dost, staci, kdyz mi date vedet a jste zvani. Co hrdlo raci - budu vdecny za kazdou pomoc :-) Mejte se prima. Michal Ptak mpta7488@mail.kolej.mff.cuni.cz >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 22 21:53:32 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA30175 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 21:53:32 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA30172 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 21:53:31 +0200 Received: from matsrv.math.cas.cz (IDENT:kasal@math-gw.math.cas.cz [147.231.89.66]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA16697 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 21:53:30 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from kasal@localhost) by matsrv.math.cas.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA19436 for caj@dione.zcu.cz; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 21:53:29 +0200 From: Stepan Kasal Message-Id: <199810221953.VAA19436@matsrv.math.cas.cz> Subject: Caj: Zlute caje? To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 21:53:29 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <199810221801.UAA07414@ns.brailcom.cz> from "Pavol Halaj" at Oct 22, 98 07:06:05 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ahoj! > Chci se, ale zeptat zda nevi nekdo neco o zlutych cajich. > Zatim jsem o tom pouze slysel, ale nikde jsem je nevidel prodavat. Nejednalo se nahodou o zlutozelene, neboli polofermentovane caje? Stepan >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 22 22:03:26 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA30220 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:03:26 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA30217 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:03:25 +0200 Received: from matsrv.math.cas.cz (IDENT:kasal@math-gw.math.cas.cz [147.231.89.66]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA16781 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:03:25 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from kasal@localhost) by matsrv.math.cas.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA19459 for caj@dione.zcu.cz; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:03:24 +0200 From: Stepan Kasal Message-Id: <199810222003.WAA19459@matsrv.math.cas.cz> Subject: Re: Caj: Genmaicha To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:03:24 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: from "Michal Ptak" at Oct 22, 98 08:29:53 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ahoj, > a zaujalo me, ze tento caj obsahuje prazenou kukurici a ryzi. myslim, ze prazenou kukurici neobsahuje. Je to take ryze, pouze nektera pri prazeni pukne jako popcorn a jina ne. Ostatne i v popcornu je urcite procento nerozpuklych zrnek, ale jen velmi male, protoze takova zrnka nejsou k jidlu. Stepan >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 22 22:50:54 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA30319 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:50:54 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA30316 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:50:53 +0200 Received: from ara.zf.jcu.cz (root@ara.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA14234 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:50:53 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from zf.jcu.cz (draco.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.2]) by ara.zf.jcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA04418 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:50:52 +0200 Message-ID: <362F9AA3.AD23579F@zf.jcu.cz> Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:50:44 +0200 From: Libor Matousek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Zlute caje? References: <199810221953.VAA19436@matsrv.math.cas.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Ahoj! > > > Chci se, ale zeptat zda nevi nekdo neco o zlutych cajich. > > Zatim jsem o tom pouze slysel, ale nikde jsem je nevidel prodavat. > > Nejednalo se nahodou o zlutozelene, neboli polofermentovane caje? > > Stepan Ahoj Stepane ! Opravdu existuji caje zlute, cetl jsem o nich jako o absolutni vzacnosti /uz si dokonce vzpominam, kde to bylo - v brozurce s dedouskem za 15,- Kc z D.C./. Spolek milcu caje se pry snazi tento vzacny caj /ty Cinanaci si ho nechavaji pro sebe - kujoni/ dopravit do nasi krasne vlasti. Nestiham reagovat, chtel bych jeste okomentovat par mailu.... a jit spat. Dobrou noc - at se Vam zda treba o vlastni cajove plantazi. Maty - Libor Matousek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 22 22:54:51 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA30355 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:54:51 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA30352 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:54:51 +0200 Received: from ara.zf.jcu.cz (root@ara.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA17117 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:54:50 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from zf.jcu.cz (draco.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.2]) by ara.zf.jcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA04799 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:54:49 +0200 Message-ID: <362F9B91.2FDF1112@zf.jcu.cz> Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:54:41 +0200 From: Libor Matousek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Cajovy list References: <199810221409.KAA15503@localhost.> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Konecne vyslo prvni cislo (po nultem) Cajoveho listu > (Oxalis). Je v nem par zajimavych clanku: > 1/Zeleny caj 2/Rooibos 3/Mate 4/Lapacho > Nejvic se mi libi "Kalendar cajovych sklizni" > pro 12 ruznych cajovych oblasti. Ukazuje zavislost > kvality sklizeneho caje na rocnim obdobi. - ten kalendar je fakt dobrej, bohouzel ted, kdyz jsem v Budejicich ho nevidim kazdy den - povesil jsem si ho totiz doma na skrin. Sehnal jsem ho v Plzni /v pasazi pod Domem hruzy u Radbuzy - Pavel B. bude urcite vedet/. Doporucuji jako doplnek do cajoveho podojika. Sam jsem to udelal. Libor Matousek - preje dobrou noc.... >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 22 22:58:55 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA30394 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:58:55 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA30391 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:58:54 +0200 Received: from ara.zf.jcu.cz (root@ara.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA17220 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:58:54 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from zf.jcu.cz (draco.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.2]) by ara.zf.jcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA05053 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:58:53 +0200 Message-ID: <362F9C84.85FD1F5E@zf.jcu.cz> Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:58:45 +0200 From: Libor Matousek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: porcelan References: <211ECB15876@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> <362EFDAF.41B1@students.zcu.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Zdravim vsechny > > Po pravde receno proti porcelanu nic nemam, ale caj nejradeji piju z > keramiky. Obzvlaste pak z tzv. terakoty, tj. neglazovane hliny. > - "terakotu" neznam, ale za dobre cajove nadobi povazuji take hlinu /z oblasti Ciny, nedaleko Shanghaye/ - keramika z mych nejoblibenejsich a mnou jiz zminovana - Yixing.Nevim, jestli tyto dva vyrazy nejsou synonymem - je to docela klidne mozne, ja znam Yixing /ale to zase docela do podrobna/ - o nem bych mohl vypravet. Prosim zkusenejsi o objasneni. Guru Libor Matousek San > Je pravda, ze se nejprve musi salky i konvicka nechat "zajet" tj. udelat > do nich hodne silny caj a ten nechat v salcich i konvickce nechat > odlezet, jinak to chutna jako kdyz pijete caj z kvetinace. > Kdyz je oboji "zajete" mate pred sebou nejlepsi (podle mne) material na > piti caje. > Mita DJ > P.S. Zeptejte se Pavla Baxy >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 22 23:02:34 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA30436 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 23:02:34 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA30433 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 23:02:33 +0200 Received: from ara.zf.jcu.cz (root@ara.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA17291 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 23:02:32 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from zf.jcu.cz (draco.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.2]) by ara.zf.jcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA05341 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 23:02:32 +0200 Message-ID: <362F9D5F.68590493@zf.jcu.cz> Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 23:02:24 +0200 From: Libor Matousek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Yixing References: <005e01bdfd9d$3e4bf4e0$298546c3@ruml> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Takze pratele, rad bych upozornil, ze "terakota", tj neglazovana hlina ma > vlastni chut, tj. ovlivnuje nalev specielne jemnych zelenych caju. Navic ma > znacnou ssavost ( proti glazure a porcelanu ). To ma za nasledek, ze velmi > Tak prosim - je "terakota" vlastne Yixing, ten popis vlastnosti by odpovidal.... Kamarad dobrych lidi, caju a keramiky Yixing Libor von Strakonice /Cheb a Budejice/ >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Fri Oct 23 10:25:49 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA31701 for caj-outgoing; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 10:25:49 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA31698 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 10:25:48 +0200 Received: from sun.fsid.cvut.cz (sun.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA24694 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 10:25:47 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from student.fsid.cvut.cz (student.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.3]) by sun.fsid.cvut.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA20016 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 08:25:39 GMT Received: from FSICD1/SpoolDir by student.fsid.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.21); 23 Oct 98 10:25:40 MET-1MEST Received: from SpoolDir by FSICD1 (Mercury 1.21); 23 Oct 98 10:25:34 MET-1MEST From: "Jan Kasparek, student" Organization: FSI CVUT, Prague To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 10:25:30 MET-1MEST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Caj: Vsechno mozne X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.54) Message-ID: <255BB8A786B@student.fsid.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ahoj vsichni, mam dnes nekolik bodu: 1)Cajovy list Nevi nekdo, kde se da v Praze sehnat?? 2)Pojmenovavani cajoveho nadobi Svoji konvicku bych si urcite pojmenoval, uz proto, ze obdivuju Japonsko:). Ale bohuzel jeste zadnou nemam. Bud mam penize a zadna se mi nelibi nebo naopak. Snad ted, mam uz neco vyhlednuteho v DC. 3)Etiketa cajoveho obradu Je pravda, ze v uvodni casti cajoveho obradu, jeste pred vlastnim podavanim caje (mozno i po nem) je vhodne se zeptat majitele a proveditele cajoveho obradu na neco ohledne jeho vybaveni. Treba na jmeno salku a jeho historii. 4)Genmaicha (pro Michala Ptaka) Je v ni opravdu pouze prazena ryze a ne kukurice. nevim jestli nemas nejakou vadnou dodavku nebo mas jine chute, ale genmaicha patri mezi me nejoblibenejsi caje a s jeji chuti jsem spokojen 5)Zlute caje Opravdu existuji a je to tak jak psal Libor Matousek. Taky jsem o nich cetl v ceniku DC. Bohuzel ho tu zrovna dnes nemam, takze nemuzu ocitovat. 6)Kalendar cajovych sklizni Stejna otazka jako u Cajoveho listu. Kde ho sehnat v Praze, popr. Tak to uz je asi vsechno, byla to fuska a tesim se na reakce. STRAKA nemuzete mi ho nekdo poslat?? Treba z Plzne?? Diky!! __________________________________ Jan Straka Kasparek E-mail: kasparek@student.fsid.cvut.cz http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek Pozvanka pro cajomilce: http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek/tea.htm >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Fri Oct 23 11:13:41 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA32087 for caj-outgoing; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:13:41 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA32084 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:13:40 +0200 Received: from atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz (atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz [195.113.31.123]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA27020 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:13:40 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from alfik (boo.ms.mff.cuni.cz [195.113.18.94]) by atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA00052 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:13:41 +0200 Message-ID: <002c01bdfe6e$4bbee020$5e1271c3@alfik.ms.mff.cuni.cz> From: "Vit Novak" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Zlute caje? Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:17:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.0 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Ahoj Stepane ! >Opravdu existuji caje zlute, cetl jsem o nich jako o absolutni vzacnosti >/uz si dokonce vzpominam, kde to bylo - v brozurce s dedouskem za 15,- >Kc z D.C./. Spolek milcu caje se pry snazi tento vzacny caj /ty Cinanaci >si ho nechavaji pro sebe - kujoni/ dopravit do nasi krasne vlasti. > Ahoj Maty! Pokud _mne_ pamet neklame, tak na zlute caje je nejtvrdsi embargo. A je to obrovska vzacnost i v Cine, takze se neda cekat, ze jej nekdo dopravi do Cech prodavatelnou zasobu. Kujoni z Dobre cajovny tvrdi, ze si pro vlastni potrebu nepatrne mnozstvi caje privezli. Takze jsem zvedav, jestli se prave jim podari toto embargo zlomit. V. >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Fri Oct 23 11:17:26 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA32129 for caj-outgoing; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:17:26 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA32126 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:17:26 +0200 Received: from atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz (atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz [195.113.31.123]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA27087 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:17:25 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from alfik (boo.ms.mff.cuni.cz [195.113.18.94]) by atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA00181 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:17:27 +0200 Message-ID: <003701bdfe6e$d2446fc0$5e1271c3@alfik.ms.mff.cuni.cz> From: "Vit Novak" To: Subject: Caj: Re: Vsechno mozne Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:20:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.0 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ahoj vsichni, mam dnes nekolik bodu: 1)Cajovy list Nevi nekdo, kde se da v Praze sehnat?? Skoro jiste v prodejnach Oxalisu, tedy napriklad ve Vinohradskem pavilonu (Vinohradska 100+-80). V. >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Fri Oct 23 11:22:26 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA32186 for caj-outgoing; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:22:26 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA32183 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:22:25 +0200 Received: from gate.hob.cz (gate.hob.cz [193.179.115.19]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA27278 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:22:23 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by gate.hob.cz (8.8.2/8.8.2) id LAA29624 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:22:18 +0200 Received: from primus.hob.cz(172.21.1.16) by gate.hob.cz via smap (V2.1) id xma029620; Fri, 23 Oct 98 11:22:14 +0200 Received: by primus.hob.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:23:44 +0200 Message-ID: From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?H=E1jek_Ctirad?= To: "'caj@dione.zcu.cz'" Subject: Caj: RE: Re: Vsechno mozne Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:23:42 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Co je to Oxalis a co je to Cajovy list? Diky Ctirad > 1)Cajovy list > Nevi nekdo, kde se da v Praze sehnat?? > > Skoro jiste v prodejnach Oxalisu, tedy napriklad ve Vinohradskem pavilonu > (Vinohradska 100+-80). > > V. > >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Fri Oct 23 11:26:54 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA32236 for caj-outgoing; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:26:54 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA32233 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:26:54 +0200 Received: from sun.fsid.cvut.cz (sun.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA27448 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:26:53 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from student.fsid.cvut.cz (student.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.3]) by sun.fsid.cvut.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA22209 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 09:26:44 GMT Received: from FSICD1/SpoolDir by student.fsid.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.21); 23 Oct 98 11:26:46 MET-1MEST Received: from SpoolDir by FSICD1 (Mercury 1.21); 23 Oct 98 11:26:41 MET-1MEST From: "Jan Kasparek, student" Organization: FSI CVUT, Prague To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:26:36 MET-1MEST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Caj: Oxalis In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.54) Message-ID: <256C0607107@student.fsid.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Co je to Oxalis a co je to Cajovy list? Oxalis je firma zabivajici se cajem a vecmi s tim souvisejicimi. prodejna ve spodnim patre Vinohradskeho pavilonu. Cajovy list: neco jako cajove noviny, vychazi silne nepravidelne. Jsou to proste takove noviny pro cajomilce. STRAKA >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Fri Oct 23 11:40:50 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA32329 for caj-outgoing; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:40:50 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA32326 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:40:49 +0200 Received: from atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz (atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz [195.113.31.123]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA27662 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:40:49 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from alfik (boo.ms.mff.cuni.cz [195.113.18.94]) by atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA01518 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:40:50 +0200 Message-ID: <004c01bdfe72$16dab240$5e1271c3@alfik.ms.mff.cuni.cz> From: "Vit Novak" To: Subject: Caj: Re: Oxalis Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:44:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.0 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz >> Co je to Oxalis a co je to Cajovy list? >Oxalis je firma zabivajici se cajem a vecmi s tim souvisejicimi. >prodejna ve spodnim patre Vinohradskeho pavilonu. >Cajovy list: neco jako cajove noviny, vychazi silne nepravidelne. >Jsou to proste takove noviny pro cajomilce. Mne se spis zda, ze to je reklamni platek firmy Oxalis :( Ale cte se to docela dobre:) V. >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Fri Oct 23 11:46:55 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA32447 for caj-outgoing; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:46:55 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA32444 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:46:54 +0200 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA28006 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:46:54 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA32213 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:46:55 +0200 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 23 Oct 98 11:46:47 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 23 Oct 98 11:46:20 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:46:18 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Genmaicha X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <22B2AFA7601@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Chtel jsem se vsak zeptat, jake mate zkusenosti s japonskym cajem > Genmaicha. Koupil jsem si hodeset deka v Ruzove cajovne. Rad experimentuji > a zaujalo me, ze tento caj obsahuje prazenou kukurici a ryzi. Priznam se, > ze zrovna na vetvi z Genmaichy nejsem. Kdybyste snad nekdo chtel vyzkouset > tento druh, mam ho jeste dost, staci, kdyz mi date vedet a jste zvani. Co > hrdlo raci - budu vdecny za kazdou pomoc :-) Kdybych mel cas, hned bych vyrazil. Genmaicha je opravdu skvely caj...aspon pro mne. Pro doplneni predchozich mailu...nesmi se zalevat horkou vodou, cim chladnejsi, tim lepsi...kdovi, zda je nejaka dolni teplota vody, kdy uz neni dobra :-). Co se tyce te Vinohradske trznice, slysel jsem o ni hodne chvaly. Pry se tam daji sehnat levne standartni sorty caju...tedy tamaryokutcha ne (kdyby se vam nelibil ten nazev, nedivim se vam, pisu ho z hlavy). Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Fri Oct 23 11:49:24 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA32513 for caj-outgoing; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:49:24 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA32509 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:49:23 +0200 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA28190 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:49:22 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA32277 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:49:23 +0200 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 23 Oct 98 11:49:16 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 23 Oct 98 11:49:08 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:49:07 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: porcelan X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <22B36F05C7C@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Netroufam si odhadnout jestli je tato keramika varna. Mimochodem > jake mate zkusenosti s ohrivacky pod konev? Pouzivate to? > Vypada to pekne, ale splnuji ucel? Michael Kdyz mi v DC prinesou nalevovy caj s konvickou vody na ohrivacku, automaticky ji sfouknu. Je malo caju (a zadny zeleny), ktere by se nedaly louhovat chladnejsi vodou a ja to nemam rad horke. Takze...pro mne ucel nesplnuji. A take ji tedy nevlastnim. Leda na medovinu. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Fri Oct 23 11:53:41 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA32577 for caj-outgoing; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:53:41 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA32574 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:53:41 +0200 Received: from sun.fsid.cvut.cz (sun.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA28205 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:53:40 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from student.fsid.cvut.cz (student.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.3]) by sun.fsid.cvut.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA22692 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 09:53:32 GMT Received: from FSICD1/SpoolDir by student.fsid.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.21); 23 Oct 98 11:53:34 MET-1MEST Received: from SpoolDir by FSICD1 (Mercury 1.21); 23 Oct 98 11:53:05 MET-1MEST From: "Jan Kasparek, student" Organization: FSI CVUT, Prague To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:52:58 MET-1MEST Subject: Caj: Genmaicha X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-ID: <257311C136D@student.fsid.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Co se tyce te Vinohradske trznice, slysel jsem o ni hodne chvaly. Pry se > tam daji sehnat levne standartni sorty caju...tedy tamaryokutcha ne (kdyby > se vam nelibil ten nazev, nedivim se vam, pisu ho z hlavy). Vinohradska trznice je HROZNE draho, krome prodejny firmy Oxalis, tam jsou ceny opravdu pozitivni. Tamaryokucha se pise takhle. STRAKA__________________________________ Jan Straka Kasparek E-mail: kasparek@student.fsid.cvut.cz http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek Pozvanka pro cajomilce: http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek/tea.htm >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Fri Oct 23 12:12:12 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA32662 for caj-outgoing; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:12:12 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA32659 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:12:11 +0200 Received: from ara.zf.jcu.cz (root@ara.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA28762 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:12:10 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from zf.jcu.cz (cizkom00@draco.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.2]) by ara.zf.jcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA10775 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:12:08 +0200 Message-ID: <3630566F.9556E1B7@zf.jcu.cz> Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:11:59 +0200 From: Libor Matousek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Ohrivcky, konvicky, D.C. apod. References: <22B36F05C7C@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > Netroufam si odhadnout jestli je tato keramika varna. Mimochodem > > jake mate zkusenosti s ohrivacky pod konev? Pouzivate to? > > Vypada to pekne, ale splnuji ucel? Michael > - doma pouzivam ohrivacek a sklenenou konvici z varneho skla s vodou na druhy nalev. Ucel splnuje dostatecne, navic mam rad svetlo svicky /pro Cajove kychanky ve dvou - jak romanticke :-) /. Konvicka - Yixing, jak jinak. Listky nechavam v konvicce /ktera jeste nema jmeno - zajimavy napad/, ma to udajne, a ja mohu jen souhlasit, priznivy vliv na chut vysledneho pokladu. Pro caje, ktere nejsou vicenalevove pouzivam z bambusoveho sitka /osobne/ vyrobenou jakousi "steticku" /neni tak hezka, jako ta na Canoju, ale ucel splnuje/ nebo spis "hrabicky", kterymi vyndam po urcene dobe listky z konvicky - mohu doporucit. > Kdyz mi v DC prinesou nalevovy caj s konvickou vody na ohrivacku, > - zrovna vcera v D.C. v Budejicich: dal jsem si s kamaradem Shou Mee, ale ohrivacek v Budejicke cajovne zasadne nedavaji. Nechaji zvonecek, at si pry zazvonime, ze nam prinesou druhy nalev. Kdyz jsem odchazel, meli na pultiku zhruba 8 sklenenych konvicek, vychladlych a bez vody - zdalo se mi to zbytecne odlouceni listku od caje /jako kdyz diteti vezmou mamu/ . V Karlovarske D.C. davaji ohrivacky a Pai Mu Dan - listky plavou na dne konvicky... to se mi zda rozumnejsi. Omlouvam se, ze jsem se tak rozepsal, mam toho na srdci jeste mnoholi, ale musim jit... jedu domu /do Chebu/. Libor Matousek "MATY" e-mail: matoul01@zf.jcu.cz www: http://www.mujweb.cz/www/kychanek/kychanek.htm >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Sat Oct 24 03:05:45 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA01429 for caj-outgoing; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 03:05:45 +0200 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA01426 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 03:05:42 +0200 Received: from conan.asysijd.cz (mailexim@server.asysijd.cz [195.75.66.161]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA15056 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 03:05:41 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from kol-dial14.asysijd.cz (asysijd.cz) [195.75.66.24] by conan.asysijd.cz with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1 (Debian)) id 0zWs9C-0000N5-00; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 03:05:38 +0200 Message-ID: <36312756.BB9B9696@asysijd.cz> Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 03:03:18 +0200 From: Jan Bourek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Čajový Dýchánek" Subject: Caj: Novacek Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Zdravim cajomilce, po dlouhem procitani Vasich debat jsem se rozhodl poprve take neco napsat. Jsem absolutni holobradek v oblasti piti caje a s radosti si ctu vsechny Vase moudre rady. U mne je to s nadobickem jednoduche: k narozeninam jsem dostal konvici z keramiky se ctyrmi miskami, ale vetsinou piji caj sam a konvice je moc velka. Proto pouzivam mensi, ale porcelanovou konyvku (tmave hneda) a az dnes jsem doma objevil dalsi porcelanovou soupravicku, ale s bilym vnitrkem a je opravdu zajimave sledovat barvu caje pri jeho piti. K seznamu cajoven bych Vam rad pridal Cajovnu setkani v Koline. Pokusim se demonstrovat jeji atmosferu asi takto: Ti kdo jsou z Prahy, necht si predstvi vinarnu U Svateho Mikulase na Male Strane. Tato cajovna je neco podobneho vzhledove: pri sestupu do nizsiho poschodi Vas zaujmou stara kresla, rozvrazane zidle, dubove stoly, kamenne steny, pritmi. Dulezita je exoticka vune, ktera na Vas ihned po vstupu zautoci. Na rozdil od Mikulase je zde slyset predevsim cesky jazyk (ne anglictina) a jedine napoje zde podavane jsou caje (ne vino ...). Vlastne je to prvni cajovna, ve ktere jsem byl, a zatim jedina. Ne, nesmejte se mi, casem to spravim. Stejne piji caj radsi doma o samote, kdyz do cajovny tak jedine s dobrym pritelem. Nakonec bych rad rekl, ze cajovna stejnych majitelu je i v Podebradech. No nic uz tak jsem popsal moc mista, koncim. Dobrou noc. Jan Bourek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Sun Oct 25 19:36:43 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA04555 for caj-outgoing; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 19:36:43 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA04552 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 19:36:41 +0100 Received: from ms.anet.cz (ms.anet.cz [194.50.6.67]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA29852 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 19:36:41 +0100 (MET) Received: from nick (taj12.cesnet.cz [194.108.117.238]) by ms.anet.cz (8.9.0.Beta5/CESNET/roman) with ESMTP id TAA06084 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 19:36:51 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <36337E43.E7C0E6EF@ms.anet.cz> Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 20:38:43 +0100 From: Jan Kykal X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "caj@dione.zcu.cz" Subject: Caj: cajovy obrad X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Zdravim vsechni cajomilce, zapojuji se do diskuze teprve poprve ale moc se mi libi. Pro zacatek bych mel jen dve otazky: 1. nevi nekdo nahodou o cajovne v Karlovych Varech - budu tam muset jen na 5 dni a rad bych nejakou navstivil. 2. muze se clovek nekde dostat k japonskemu cajovemu obradu "nazivo" Dik Honza >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 26 07:26:55 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA05421 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 07:26:55 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA05418 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 07:26:54 +0100 Received: from localhost. (ns.speed.cz [212.20.64.94]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA02033 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 07:26:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from pc by localhost. (8.8.4/SMI-SVR4) id BAA27877; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 01:14:54 -0500 Message-Id: <199810260614.BAA27877@localhost.> From: "Bent" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Dobra cajovna Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 18:19:14 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id HAA05419 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Zatim jsem tu na Dobre cajovny zaregistroval vesmes pozitivni reakce. Nedavno jsem se s pritelem zastavil v te na Vaclavaku. Caj vari vyborny to je fakt, ale s obsluhou jsem nebyl tak uplne spokojen. Mel jsem porad takovy pocit jako, ze tam prekazime. Mohl to byt jen chvilkovy vypadek, treby se jindy chovaji privetiveji - nevim. Jak to pusobi na vas? Take nejsem zcela nadsen jejich keramikou. Na vsem znacka Dobre cajovny, trochu jsem si pripadal jak v Delvite :-) Ceny jsou kapitola sama pro sebe, ale kvalita je opravdu dobra. Presto kdybych mel volit, vyberu k posezeni radeji jiny typ cajovny. Napr. uz zminovanou Klatovskou, nebo "Setkani" v Podebradech. Slysel jsem, ze proslula je v Pardubicich, byl jste tam nekdo? Michael >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 26 07:46:19 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA05480 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 07:46:19 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA05477 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 07:46:19 +0100 From: LToman@zivpo.cz Received: from zp999a.zivpo.cz (ms.zivpo.cz [195.146.106.228]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA02443 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 07:46:18 +0100 (MET) Received: by ZP999A with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id <4X51JRCD>; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 07:44:57 +0100 Message-ID: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A39B5E454@PUEX1C1> To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: RE: Caj: Dobra cajovna Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 07:44:45 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Slysel jsem, ze proslula je v Pardubicich, byl jste tam > nekdo? Michael Jojo. Byl jsem tam. Vzdyt ji mam 15 minut od baraku. Kdo myslis, ze ji na netu furt propaguje, zname do ni zve a ostatni cajovny kritizuje 8-)))). Podivej se na Strakovu stranku (http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek/tea.htm). Pardubicka Dobra cajovna na jeho strankach dostala 6 hvezdicek z peti moznych. Galenius >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 26 07:46:20 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA05490 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 07:46:20 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA05482 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 07:46:19 +0100 Received: from eryx2.zcu.cz (eryx2.zcu.cz [147.228.206.13]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA02455 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 07:46:19 +0100 (MET) Received: from uk411-kiv-pc2.zcu.cz (uk411p02-kiv.fav.zcu.cz [147.228.43.35]) by eryx2.zcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA31587 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 07:46:18 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <36341ABA.7A6F@students.zcu.cz> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 07:46:18 +0100 From: "Ing. Demeter Jurista" Organization: KIV ZCU Plzen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Cajovna KV References: <36337E43.E7C0E6EF@ms.anet.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Zdravim vsechny Jan Kykal wrote: > Pro zacatek bych mel jen dve otazky: > 1. nevi nekdo nahodou o cajovne v Karlovych Varech - budu tam muset jen Dle mych skromnych informaci, je v KV Dobra cajovna a zatim se mi donesla jen slova chvaly, bohuzel jsem tam jeste nebyl tak nemohu posoudit (a to bydlim 20 km od KV). Jinak se pry nachazi ve stare trznici, zeptej se mistnich :) (4 roky jsem chodil v KV na gymnazium a uz nevim presne kde to je :( ...) Mita DJ P.S. Maty bude vedet >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 26 09:36:26 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA06048 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:36:26 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA06045 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:36:25 +0100 Received: from serverpce.czcom.cz (serverpce.czcom.cz [195.146.98.2]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA05386 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:36:25 +0100 (MET) Received: from pop3.stapro.cz ([195.146.104.82]) by serverpce.czcom.cz (Netscape Mail Server v1.1) with SMTP id AAA264 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:43:52 +0100 Received: from 192.168.10.41 by pop3.stapro.cz (WinRoute 3.0) with SMTP; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:35:40 +0200 From: "=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Jana_N=ECmcov=E1?=" To: Subject: Caj: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Pardubick=E1_=E8ajovna?= Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:36:30 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Message-ID: <19981026084350814.AAA264@pop3.stapro.cz> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id JAA06046 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ahojky, i když se do debaty nezapojuji, ráda ji sleduji a pročítám... Do Pardubické čajovny jsem jednou za čas ráda zašla, ale po poslední návštěvě mě to tam už moc neláká...Proč? Čaj sice lahodil mé chuti, ale na můj vkus tam bylo moc hlučno, přirovnala bych to až k hospodskému halasu...do čajovny si chodím ráda odpočinout, něco si přečíst nebo jen tak ráda pozoruji dění kolem sebe...vím, asi to bylo lidmi, které jsem tam zrovna potkala, ale od té doby raději zajedu do Chrudimské nebo do Jihlavské čajovny či popíjím čaj ve skrytu domova... Jana >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 26 09:42:30 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA06091 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:42:30 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA06088 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:42:30 +0100 From: LToman@zivpo.cz Received: from zp999a.zivpo.cz (ms.zivpo.cz [195.146.106.228]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA05450 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:42:29 +0100 (MET) Received: by ZP999A with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id <4X51JR1H>; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:40:41 +0100 Message-ID: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A39B5E459@PUEX1C1> To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: RE: Pardubická čajovna Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:40:40 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > i když se do debaty nezapojuji, ráda ji sleduji a pročítám... > Do Pardubické čajovny jsem jednou za čas ráda zašla, ale po > poslední návštěvě mě to tam už moc neláká...Proč? Čaj sice > lahodil mé chuti, ale na můj vkus tam bylo moc hlučno, > přirovnala bych to až k hospodskému halasu...do čajovny si > chodím ráda odpočinout, něco si přečíst nebo jen tak ráda > pozoruji dění kolem sebe...vím, asi to bylo lidmi, které jsem > tam zrovna potkala, ale od té doby raději zajedu do > Chrudimské nebo do Jihlavské čajovny či popíjím čaj ve skrytu > domova... Ano. To zavisi na tom, jaci lide se tam dostanou... Bud jsou tam lide, kteri tam chodi jako my, odpocinout si, vychutnat caj atd. Ti maximalne septaj. A jsou lide, kteri hubu nezavrou a pod urcitou uroven decibelu odmitaj klesnout... Ale kvuli nim odmitat cajovnu, to se mi nezda... Galenius >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 26 09:57:17 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA06169 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:57:17 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA06166 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:57:16 +0100 Received: from gate.hob.cz (gate.hob.cz [193.179.115.19]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA06066 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:57:15 +0100 (MET) Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by gate.hob.cz (8.8.2/8.8.2) id JAA13087 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:57:08 +0100 Received: from primus.hob.cz(172.21.1.16) by gate.hob.cz via smap (V2.1) id xma013085; Mon, 26 Oct 98 09:56:57 +0100 Received: by primus.hob.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:58:57 +0100 Message-ID: From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?H=E1jek_Ctirad?= To: "'caj@dione.zcu.cz'" Subject: Caj: =?iso-8859-2?Q?RE=3A_Pardubick=E1_=E8ajovna?= Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:58:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id JAA06167 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Tvuj popis mi pripomina plzenskou cajovnu El Carmel. Pro urcite veci je prima, ale hluk je tam neprijemny. Pokud si chci vychutnat caj, radeji jdu nekam, kde je klid, napr. do cajovny v Plachovce. Hluku si uziju dost na ulicich, proc jeste v cajovne :-) Ctirad > ---------- > Čaj sice lahodil mé chuti, ale na můj vkus tam bylo moc hlučno, přirovnala > bych to až k hospodskému halasu... > Jana > >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 26 12:04:45 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA06994 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 12:04:45 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA06991 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 12:04:45 +0100 Received: from ara.zf.jcu.cz (root@ara.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA11948 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 12:04:44 +0100 (MET) Received: from zf.jcu.cz (draco.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.2]) by ara.zf.jcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA32166 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 12:04:42 +0100 Message-ID: <36345731.4F2B5F79@zf.jcu.cz> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 12:04:18 +0100 From: Libor Matousek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Cajovna KV References: <36337E43.E7C0E6EF@ms.anet.cz> <36341ABA.7A6F@students.zcu.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > Pro zacatek bych mel jen dve otazky: > > 1. nevi nekdo nahodou o cajovne v Karlovych Varech - budu tam muset jen > > Dle mych skromnych informaci, je v KV Dobra cajovna a zatim se mi > donesla jen slova chvaly, bohuzel jsem tam jeste nebyl tak nemohu > posoudit (a to bydlim 20 km od KV). Jinak se pry nachazi ve stare > trznici, zeptej se mistnich :) (4 roky jsem chodil v KV na gymnazium a > uz nevim presne kde to je :( ...) > Mita DJ > P.S. Maty bude vedet Maty vi... dekuji za slovo. Motto: Kdyz muzu, pomuzu, vetsinou nemuzu !!! :-) Pokud jde ale o caj, pomuzu velerad. Takze: Charakterizovat Dobrou cajovnu v Karlackach neboli Varech lze jednim adjektivem - VELEDOBRA. Nachazi se pobliz autobusoveho nadrazi - dulezity orientacni bod je i zminovana trznice. Nejlepe je se zeptat mistnich - adresa vsech D.C. (doufam, ze jsem na zadnou nezapomel) je na me skromne strance zvouci se Cajovy kychanek. Projdete pruchodem a uvidite zname logo... pak uz je to jednoduche. Do nosu Vas uhodi ta spravna vune a uz si jen objednat. Interier je velmi zajimavy - stary pavlacovy dum, takze v prvnim podlazi se sedi u zdi a ve "sklepe" je tzv. "Bush" - nejlepsi misto na cajovou relaxaci v jakekoli poloze - tam jsem nejradeji. Pritelkyne Petulka by si dokazala hned predstavit obydleni tohoto domu (v busi by byl obyvak nebo loznice), ja mohu jen souhlasit - byl by to skvely byt (cajovna by samozrejme byla taky, ale takova mala, soukroma) . Prijemne prostedi - polosero a ticho. Alespon to tak bylo pri mych kontrolnich navstevach. Pro Straku - dej, prosim, Varsky cajovne alespon 5,5 * z peti moznych (az se tam nekdy nekdo dostanete, dali byste urcite 7*). Preji hezke cajove zazitky. Libor Matousek "MATY" e-mail: matoul01@zf.jcu.cz www: http://www.mujweb.cz/www/kychanek/kychanek.htm >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 26 12:40:06 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA07460 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 12:40:06 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA07457 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 12:40:06 +0100 Received: from kiv.zcu.cz (ur404p01-rek.rek.zcu.cz [147.228.71.108]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA13646; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 12:40:05 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <36345F93.6000E920@kiv.zcu.cz> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 12:40:03 +0100 From: Pavel Baxa Organization: ZCU Plzen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Cajovna KV References: <36337E43.E7C0E6EF@ms.anet.cz> <36341ABA.7A6F@students.zcu.cz> <36345731.4F2B5F79@zf.jcu.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Libor Matousek wrote: > Charakterizovat Dobrou cajovnu v Karlackach neboli Varech lze jednim > adjektivem - VELEDOBRA. > ... atd. Ty, Maty, neuvazovals nekdy o kariere v reklamni agenture? Tvuj popis cajovny zni sice lakave, ale pokus se pridat fakta. Velikost (pocet mist), osluha, provozni doba, hudba, typ nabytku, barvy, laky, ceny taky - a mej na pameti, ze ne kazdy zna styl Dobrych cajoven. Dik. Pavel Baxa P.S.: Sedm bodu z peti je ponekud unahlene hodnoceni ;-) >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 26 13:10:25 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA07579 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:10:25 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA07576 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:10:24 +0100 Received: from ara.zf.jcu.cz (root@ara.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA14770 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:10:24 +0100 (MET) Received: from zf.jcu.cz (jaresj00@draco.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.2]) by ara.zf.jcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA02188 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:10:18 +0100 Message-ID: <36346691.8108A44F@zf.jcu.cz> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:09:53 +0100 From: Libor Matousek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Cajovna KV References: <36337E43.E7C0E6EF@ms.anet.cz> <36341ABA.7A6F@students.zcu.cz> <36345731.4F2B5F79@zf.jcu.cz> <36345F93.6000E920@kiv.zcu.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > Charakterizovat Dobrou cajovnu v Karlackach neboli Varech lze jednim > > adjektivem - VELEDOBRA. > > ... atd. > > Ty, Maty, neuvazovals nekdy o kariere v reklamni agenture? > - to by to dopadlo...- takze jeste jednou (musim dat Pavlovi za pravdu a proto pridavam fakta - i kdyz se tam dali urcite najaky najit): > Tvuj popis cajovny zni sice lakave, ale pokus se pridat > fakta. Velikost (pocet mist), osluha, provozni doba, hudba, > typ nabytku, barvy, laky, ceny taky - a mej na pameti, > ze ne kazdy zna styl Dobrych cajoven. > - velikost jsem strucne natukl - dve patra pavlacoveho domu (Pavle, vzdyt jsem napsal vsechno - Ty jsi ale rejpal) - pocet mist k sezeni, lezeni a stani je alespon 35 cajomilu. K obsluze bych nemel vyhrady (pro cajomily neznale stylu Dobrych cajoven... vetsinou jsou obleceni do cernych volnych kalhot a cerneho trika s logem D.C.). Hudba je vetsinou ladena orientalne - nevtiravy styl, volume tak akorat. Ceny jsou /alespon podle meho mineni/ stejne jako napriklad v Ceskych Budejicich a asi i v Praze. Pohybuji se od 35 az k 88,8 /Vzpominka na Cajoveho krale/. Nabytek - styl orient, barva hneda. Nizke stolky, mekke polstarsky (tzv. "podprdelnicky"). Na stenach obrazky a v Budejkach dokonce gobelin a u stropu /v C.B/. samet nebo mozna hedvabi s motivem nocni oblohy - nutno videt - stavte se. > P.S.: Sedm bodu z peti je ponekud unahlene hodnoceni ;-) - kdyz mohl dat Straka Pardubicum 6* z 5... ?!?:-) Libor Matousek "MATY" e-mail: matoul01@zf.jcu.cz www: http://www.mujweb.cz/www/kychanek/kychanek.htm P.S. Dekuji Pavlovi B. za rejpnuti pod zebra /auvajs :-)/. Trochu jsem se zapotil, ale snad uz je to lepsi - snaha byla. >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 26 13:18:20 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA07620 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:18:20 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA07617 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:18:19 +0100 Received: from gate.ericsson.cz (dana@gate.ericsson.cz [194.213.52.1]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA15257 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:18:18 +0100 (MET) Received: (from dana@localhost) by gate.ericsson.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA06375; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:18:08 +0100 Message-ID: <19981026131807.17866@gate.ericsson.cz> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:18:07 +0100 From: Dana Drexlerova To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Caj: Re: japonsky cerny caj References: <017001bdfda1$2a301c80$5e1271c3@alfik.ms.mff.cuni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69e In-Reply-To: <017001bdfda1$2a301c80$5e1271c3@alfik.ms.mff.cuni.cz>; from Vit Novak on Thu, Oct 22, 1998 at 10:48:47AM +0100 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > > >>Koupil jsem si caj Nefritovy prsten. Udajne se jedna o smes cerneho > >>a zeleneho caje s kvety Osmanu. Caj je Japonsky. > >>Vite nekdo prosim, co je to Osman? Take se mi nezda ta smes? > >>Znate nekdo tento caj? > >> > _Japonska_ smes cerneho a zeleneho caje je _blbooost_. > > Maximalne to zelene v tom bude sencha, ale cerny caj japonci > proste nedelaji. Promin, ale nemuzu s tebou souhlasit. Vyrabi se hnedy caj prazeny a jmenuje se Hojicha. Dana >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 26 13:22:41 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA07670 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:22:41 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA07667 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:22:40 +0100 From: LToman@zivpo.cz Received: from zp999a.zivpo.cz (ms.zivpo.cz [195.146.106.228]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA15430 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:22:39 +0100 (MET) Received: by ZP999A with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id <4X51JR2S>; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:20:27 +0100 Message-ID: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A39B5E45E@PUEX1C1> To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: RE: Caj: Cajovna KV Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:20:23 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > P.S.: Sedm bodu z peti je ponekud unahlene hodnoceni ;-) > > - kdyz mohl dat Straka Pardubicum 6* z 5... ?!?:-) Dobre cajovne v Pardubicich jsem daval 5 z 5. To je taky urceno pro normalni lidi. A je to znacne subjektivni (pokud mohla dostat od nekoho Sklenena cajovna v Brne 5*. Byl jsem tam a dle meho hodnoceni max. 3 1/2*). To, ze Pardubicke DC dal Straka 6 z 5, to mohl pouze jako tvurce stranky a vyjadroval tim jen svuj nazor. Domnivam se, ze dalsich 6 z 5 bude mozno az Straka vyrazi do vasi cajovny... Galenius >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 26 13:33:03 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA07745 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:33:03 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA07742 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:33:02 +0100 Received: from atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz (atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz [195.113.31.123]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA15890 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:33:01 +0100 (MET) Received: from alfik (boo.ms.mff.cuni.cz [195.113.18.94]) by atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA20912 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:33:01 +0100 Message-ID: <009001be00e5$a73790e0$5e1271c3@alfik.ms.mff.cuni.cz> From: "Vit Novak" To: Subject: Caj: Re: Re: japonsky cerny caj Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:36:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.0 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > Promin, ale nemuzu s tebou souhlasit. Vyrabi se hnedy caj prazeny >a jmenuje se Hojicha. > Dana > Jiste, jenze _cerny caj_ je v Cechach a zapadnim svete vubec pojem oznacujici caj, ktery prosel konkretni formou fermentace a je to totez, pro co vychod pouziva termin _cerveny caj_. Hnedy caj je pojem neustaleny, tusim ze na jeho zavedeni v Cechach mam lvi podil i ja :). Tedy jeste jednou: Tvrdim, ze cerny (cerveny, fermentovany) caj japonskeho puvodu je v Cechach neznamy a oznaceni "japonsky" u smesi obsahujicich takovy caj je drza, reklamni, spinava a prachsprosta lez (nebo prinejmensim hruba neznalost) Vitek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 26 13:39:07 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA07787 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:39:07 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA07784 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:39:06 +0100 Received: from gate.ericsson.cz (dana@gate.ericsson.cz [194.213.52.1]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA16144 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:39:05 +0100 (MET) Received: (from dana@localhost) by gate.ericsson.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA06428; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:39:03 +0100 Message-ID: <19981026133903.47429@gate.ericsson.cz> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:39:03 +0100 From: Dana Drexlerova To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: cajovy obrad References: <36337E43.E7C0E6EF@ms.anet.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69e In-Reply-To: <36337E43.E7C0E6EF@ms.anet.cz>; from Jan Kykal on Sun, Oct 25, 1998 at 08:38:43PM +0100 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Zdravim vsechni cajomilce, > zapojuji se do diskuze teprve poprve ale moc se mi libi. > Pro zacatek bych mel jen dve otazky: 2. muze se clovek nekde dostat k japonskemu cajovemu obradu "nazivo" Ahoj Honzo! (urceno i pro ostatni cajomilce) K tvemu dotazu, jestli se muze clovek dostat "nazivo" k japonskemu cajovemu obradu, tak te zvu na hodinu - kde se ucime caj. obrad. Je to kazdy ctvrtek v Navratilove ulici c.10 od 18.00h. Ja tam prichazim pred 19.00h, mam predtim japonsky jazyk. Muzes se podivat, jak to tam vypada a mozna i vychutnat roli hosta. Takze pokud mas zajem, tak mi mailni (dana@k332.feld.cvut.cz). Dame si tam nekde sraz (nebo v Praze, pokud tam netrefis). Dana PS: Vite o cajovne U kostela. Je na Strosmayerove namesti. >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 26 13:50:36 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA07841 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:50:36 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA07838 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:50:35 +0100 Received: from kiv.zcu.cz (ur404p01-rek.rek.zcu.cz [147.228.71.108]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA15849; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:50:35 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3634701D.35BA45F0@kiv.zcu.cz> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:50:37 +0100 From: Pavel Baxa Organization: ZCU Plzen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Cajovna KV References: <36337E43.E7C0E6EF@ms.anet.cz> <36341ABA.7A6F@students.zcu.cz> <36345731.4F2B5F79@zf.jcu.cz> <36345F93.6000E920@kiv.zcu.cz> <36346691.8108A44F@zf.jcu.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz No vida, takhle se mi libis, Maty. Mas pochvalu. Bylo by dobre dat tyhle informace o cajovnach dohromady. Ja mam cosi rozpracovano, ale vidim, ze mnozi jsou dale nez ja, takze na mych strankach asi cajovny nebudou, nevim. Ale co vy ostatni s cajovou WWW strankou? Co chcete o cajovnach vedet? > (Pavle, vzdyt jsem napsal vsechno - Ty jsi ale rejpal) Ano prosim. > - kdyz mohl dat Straka Pardubicum 6* z 5... ?!?:-) Hm. A ja dam 50**** a vetsi bere. Pavel B. >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 26 14:04:33 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA07886 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:04:33 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA07883 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:04:32 +0100 From: LToman@zivpo.cz Received: from zp999a.zivpo.cz (ms.zivpo.cz [195.146.106.228]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA16924 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:04:31 +0100 (MET) Received: by ZP999A with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id <4X51JRJQ>; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:02:26 +0100 Message-ID: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A39B5E463@PUEX1C1> To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: RE: Caj: Cajovna KV Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:02:24 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > - kdyz mohl dat Straka Pardubicum 6* z 5... ?!?:-) > Hm. A ja dam 50**** a vetsi bere. 50*? Beru! Mi obchodni zastupci uz vyrazeni projednat podminky.... 8-)))) Galenius >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 26 14:34:35 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA07959 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:34:35 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA07956 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:34:34 +0100 Received: from serverpce.czcom.cz (serverpce.czcom.cz [195.146.98.2]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA18620 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:34:33 +0100 (MET) Received: from pop3.stapro.cz ([195.146.104.82]) by serverpce.czcom.cz (Netscape Mail Server v1.1) with SMTP id AAA113 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:42:08 +0100 Received: from 192.168.10.41 by pop3.stapro.cz (WinRoute 3.0) with SMTP; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:33:52 +0200 From: "=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Jana_N=ECmcov=E1?=" To: Subject: Caj: Kuks... Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:34:42 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Message-ID: <19981026134206877.AAA113@pop3.stapro.cz> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id OAA07957 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ahojky, mám na vás dotaz...Budou to už asi dva roky od posledního srpnového víkendu, kdy se na Kuksu konal "Festival čaje"...dozvěděla jsem se o něm náhodou a bohužel jsem na něj nemohla jet. Neví někdo z vás, jestli to byl "jenom" pokus o založení tradice nebo se tento dobrý nápad ujal a měl či má své pokračování? Velmi by mě to zajímalo... Díky Jana >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 26 15:34:29 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA08070 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:34:29 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA08067 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:34:28 +0100 Received: from helios6.civ.zcu.cz (helios6.civ.zcu.cz [147.228.103.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA20866 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:34:27 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (kotala@localhost) by helios6.civ.zcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA09404 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:34:22 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: helios6.civ.zcu.cz: kotala owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:34:22 +0100 (MET) From: Zdenek Kotala X-Sender: kotala@helios6.civ.zcu.cz To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: cajovy obrad In-Reply-To: <19981026133903.47429@gate.ericsson.cz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz On Mon, 26 Oct 1998, Dana Drexlerova wrote: > obradu, tak te zvu na hodinu - kde se ucime caj. obrad. Je to kazdy ctvrtek > v Navratilove ulici c.10 od 18.00h. Ja tam prichazim pred 19.00h, mam predtim > PS: Vite o cajovne U kostela. Je na Strosmayerove namesti. Sice jsem nejak pochopil ze ulice i namesti jsou nejspise v Praze, ale bylo by dobre pro priste si uvedomit ze Cechy nejsou jenom Praha. :-) Zdenek Hlipa Kotala >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 26 15:45:19 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA08135 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:45:19 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA08132 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:45:18 +0100 Received: from ns.felk.cvut.cz (ns.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.9]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA21330 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:45:17 +0100 (MET) Received: from sun (sun.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.32]) by ns.felk.cvut.cz (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA04782; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:45:07 +0100 (MET) Received: from sun45.felk.cvut.cz by sun (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA29105; Mon, 26 Oct 98 14:29:58 +0100 Received: by sun45.felk.cvut.cz (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15281; Mon, 26 Oct 98 15:45:08 +0100 Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:45:07 +0100 (MET) From: Tregner Vaclav student 6_98_99 k336 X-Sender: xtregner@sun45 To: Vit Novak Cc: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Re: Re: japonsky cerny caj In-Reply-To: <009001be00e5$a73790e0$5e1271c3@alfik.ms.mff.cuni.cz> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Tady spis doslo k nedorozumeni. Ja jsem si koupil taky smes cerneho a zelenyho caje (Samba) od Oxalisu a je tam napsano: SMES CERNEHO CAJE A JAPONSKEHO ZELENEHO CAJE SENCHA. Tedy neni tam receno ze ten cerny caj je Vasek > Tedy jeste jednou: Tvrdim, ze cerny (cerveny, fermentovany) caj japonskeho > puvodu je v Cechach neznamy a oznaceni "japonsky" u smesi obsahujicich > takovy caj je drza, reklamni, spinava a prachsprosta lez (nebo prinejmensim > hruba neznalost) > > Vitek > > >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 26 15:49:52 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA08181 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:49:52 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA08178 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:49:51 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA21480 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:49:50 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA00357 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:49:51 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 26 Oct 98 15:49:20 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 26 Oct 98 15:48:54 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:48:54 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Re: Re: japonsky cerny caj X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <27839C72B97@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > Promin, ale nemuzu s tebou souhlasit. Vyrabi se hnedy caj prazeny > >a jmenuje se Hojicha. > > Jiste, jenze _cerny caj_ je v Cechach a zapadnim svete vubec pojem > oznacujici caj, ktery prosel konkretni formou fermentace a je to totez, > pro co vychod pouziva termin _cerveny caj_. Hnedy caj je pojem > neustaleny, tusim ze na jeho zavedeni v Cechach mam lvi podil i ja :). > > Tedy jeste jednou: Tvrdim, ze cerny (cerveny, fermentovany) caj japonskeho > puvodu je v Cechach neznamy a oznaceni "japonsky" u smesi obsahujicich > takovy caj je drza, reklamni, spinava a prachsprosta lez (nebo prinejmensim > hruba neznalost) Nejsem si jist a overim si to, ale mam pocit, ze Hojicha rozhodne nemusi byt prazeny caj (a i kdyby, s pojmem cerny to nema nic spolecneho, prazeni prece neni fermentace). Prazeni caju je zalezitost makrobioticke stravy, totez se provadi s Kukichou a to je jinak pekne zeleny caj. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 26 15:57:32 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA08223 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:57:32 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA08220 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:57:32 +0100 Received: from ns.felk.cvut.cz (ns.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.9]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA21788 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:57:31 +0100 (MET) Received: from sun (sun.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.32]) by ns.felk.cvut.cz (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA06109; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:57:31 +0100 (MET) Received: from sun45.felk.cvut.cz by sun (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA29395; Mon, 26 Oct 98 14:42:22 +0100 Received: by sun45.felk.cvut.cz (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15378; Mon, 26 Oct 98 15:57:32 +0100 Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:57:31 +0100 (MET) From: Tregner Vaclav student 6_98_99 k336 X-Sender: xtregner@sun45 To: Vit Novak Cc: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Re: Vsechno mozne In-Reply-To: <003701bdfe6e$d2446fc0$5e1271c3@alfik.ms.mff.cuni.cz> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Byl jsem se podivat v prodejne Oxalisu ve Vinohradskem pavilone a zda se mi ze u Rotta (Oxalis, dum lahudek na Staromaku) maj vetsi vyber. On Fri, 23 Oct 1998, Vit Novak wrote: > Ahoj vsichni, mam dnes nekolik bodu: > 1)Cajovy list > Nevi nekdo, kde se da v Praze sehnat?? > > > Skoro jiste v prodejnach Oxalisu, tedy napriklad ve Vinohradskem pavilonu > (Vinohradska 100+-80). > > V. > > >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 26 16:02:14 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA08264 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:02:14 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA08261 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:02:13 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA21930 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:02:13 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00821 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:02:13 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 26 Oct 98 16:01:43 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 26 Oct 98 16:01:37 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:01:37 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Dobra cajovna X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <278700660EF@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Zatim jsem tu na Dobre cajovny zaregistroval vesmes > pozitivni reakce. Nedavno jsem se s pritelem zastavil > v te na Vaclavaku. Caj vari vyborny to je fakt, ale > s obsluhou jsem nebyl tak uplne spokojen. Mel jsem > porad takovy pocit jako, ze tam prekazime. Mohl > to byt jen chvilkovy vypadek, treby se jindy chovaji > privetiveji - nevim. Jak to pusobi na vas? > Take nejsem zcela nadsen jejich keramikou. > Na vsem znacka Dobre cajovny, trochu jsem > si pripadal jak v Delvite :-) Ceny jsou kapitola sama > pro sebe, ale kvalita je opravdu dobra. Presto kdybych... Na jednech cajovych strankach je hodne podobna kritika DC. Takze vice k tomu ani nebudu rikat...a ty stranky najdes velmi rychle, mozna uz je mas v bookmarku :-)). Ale zalezi na nahode, nekdy tak jindy onak. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 26 16:06:45 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA08334 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:06:45 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA08331 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:06:45 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA22058 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:06:44 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00973 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:06:45 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 26 Oct 98 16:06:15 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 26 Oct 98 16:05:55 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:05:46 +100 Subject: Caj: cajovy obrad + Strosmayerovo nam. X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <27882545D13@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Ahoj Honzo! (urceno i pro ostatni cajomilce) > K tvemu dotazu, jestli se muze clovek dostat "nazivo" k japonskemu cajovemu > obradu, tak te zvu na hodinu - kde se ucime caj. obrad. Je to kazdy ctvrtek > v Navratilove ulici c.10 od 18.00h. Ja tam prichazim pred 19.00h, mam predtim > japonsky jazyk. Muzes se podivat, jak to tam vypada a mozna i vychutnat > roli hosta. Takze pokud mas zajem, tak mi mailni (dana@k332.feld.cvut.cz). > Dame si tam nekde sraz (nebo v Praze, pokud tam netrefis). To bych asi zajem mel, muzes to popsat blize? A co treba pristi ctvrtek? > PS: Vite o cajovne U kostela. Je na Strosmayerove namesti. To je zahada. Ja tam byl nedavno a cajovna nikde. A pritom dva dny prede mnou tam byla jedna mlada slecna a ze pry funguji. Pritom ja na puvodnim miste videl uz zarizene nejake starozitnictvi. Vi o tom nekdo vice? Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 26 16:11:25 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA08386 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:11:25 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA08383 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:11:24 +0100 Received: from mail.oku-je.cz ([195.47.23.218]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA22088 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:11:20 +0100 (MET) Received: from SPRAVCE [172.16.50.100] by mail.oku-je.cz (AltaVista Mail V2.0/2.0 BL23 listener) id 0000_007a_3634_8ec1_5eb4; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:01:21 +0100 Message-ID: <00bb01be00f2$c44cb680$643210ac@spravce> From: "=?iso-8859-2?Q?Ing._Petr_Kyjovsk=FD?=" To: Subject: Re: Re: Caj: Re: Re: japonsky cerny caj Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:10:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id QAA08384 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Nejsem si jist a overim si to, ale mam pocit, ze Hojicha rozhodne >nemusi byt prazeny caj (a i kdyby, s pojmem cerny to nema nic spolecneho, >prazeni prece neni fermentace). Prazeni caju je zalezitost makrobioticke >stravy, totez se provadi s Kukichou a to je jinak pekne zeleny caj. > Hojicha je prazeny caj (dle napisu na balicku dodavaneho Spolkem milcu caje co mam momentalne pred sebou) Navic je to caj stonkovy nikoliv listovy. Petr >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 26 16:12:18 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA08405 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:12:18 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA08402 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:12:17 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA22258 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:12:16 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA01130 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:12:17 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 26 Oct 98 16:11:47 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 26 Oct 98 16:11:22 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:11:21 +100 Subject: Caj:Louny a Letna X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <2789990652B@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Mam jedno upozorneni a jednu zahadu. Upozornuji na cajovnu v Lounech. Nevim, zda jeste funguje, byl jsem tam zacatkem roku, ani nevim, kdo ji provozuje, ale byla rozhodne prijemna. Takze budete-li mit cestu do Loun, hura do jadra mesta (to je taky pekne), od hlavni brany podel kostela vpravo a tam to bylo. A zahadou nam byla vodarenska vez blizko stadionu Sparty na Letne v Praze. Jdeme kolem a rikame si "tady by byla cajovna"...no a ona tam pry je ve tretim patre veze. Nemeli jsme cas, tak ja jen jestli o ni neco nevite. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 26 17:58:48 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA08861 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:58:48 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA08854 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:58:47 +0100 Received: from localhost. (ns.speed.cz [212.20.64.94]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA25776 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:58:46 +0100 (MET) Received: from pc by localhost. (8.8.4/SMI-SVR4) id LAA03307; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:46:48 -0500 Message-Id: <199810261646.LAA03307@localhost.> From: "Bent" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Dobra cajovna Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:53:55 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id RAA08857 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Na jednech cajovych strankach je hodne podobna kritika DC. Takze vice > k tomu ani nebudu rikat...a ty stranky najdes velmi rychle, mozna uz je > mas v bookmarku :-)). Ale zalezi na nahode, nekdy tak jindy onak. > > Pavel Nerozumim. Jake jsou to stranky? Podel se o adresu. Nejsem rozhodne odbornik pres pocitace, takze nevim - co je "bookmark"? Pripadne jak dlouho se louhuje? :-) Michael >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 26 17:58:48 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA08862 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:58:48 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA08856 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:58:47 +0100 Received: from localhost. (ns.speed.cz [212.20.64.94]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA26394 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:58:46 +0100 (MET) Received: from pc by localhost. (8.8.4/SMI-SVR4) id LAA01767; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:46:46 -0500 Message-Id: <199810261646.LAA01767@localhost.> From: "Bent" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Bravo. Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:45:43 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id RAA08859 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Je to mozna z jineho salku, ale presto o tom chci par slov napsat. Zakonem 79/98 a prilehlymi vyhlaskami vlada stanovuje zakaz prodeje vyhrazenych leciv bez absoluvovani sloziteho kurzu a vykonani zkousky. Smutne je to, ze mezi tato leciva byly zarazeny i bylinne caje. Tyto caje se tedy od prvniho ledna maji prodavat predevsim v lekarnach, protoze pro drobne prodejce bude kurs jak cenove tak casove narocny. Vim, ze prave drobni prodejci vedou tento sortiment jako doplnkovy, nebot samotne sypane caje je tezko uzivi. Lekarnici si mnou ruce a nas narod se tesi do Evropy. Vzdyt i v Anglii se caj prodaval jako lecivo pouze v lekarnach. Jen si nejsem jist tim stoletim... :-) Mozna bych si mel rychle zaregistrovat nazev "Dobra lekarna" :-) Michael >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 26 21:02:03 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA09231 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 21:02:03 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA09228 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 21:02:02 +0100 Received: from smtp.kolej.mff.cuni.cz (smtp.kolej.mff.cuni.cz [195.113.25.225]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA01435 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 21:02:02 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.kolej.mff.cuni.cz (mail.kolej.mff.cuni.cz [195.113.25.223]) by smtp.kolej.mff.cuni.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.0) with ESMTP id VAA06762 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 21:02:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (mpta7488@localhost) by mail.kolej.mff.cuni.cz (8.9.1/8.8.3) with ESMTP id UAA02370 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 20:53:21 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 20:53:21 +0100 (CET) From: Michal Ptak To: Cajovy Dychanek Subject: Caj: Genmaicha Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Zdravim vsechny cajare, minuly tyden jsem se s vami podelil o nazor na jeden caj - Genmaichu. Napsal jsem, ze obsahuje prazenou kukurici a ryzi. Tu kukurici se mi nekolik lidi pokouselo rozmluvit. V tom caji je neco, co skutecne vypada jako kukurice, ale ona to taky kukurice asi bude, alespon to je napsany na ceniku Ruzove cajovny (prazena ryze a kukurice). Taky by me tezko napadla kukurice jen tak sama od sebe, kdybych si to nekde neprecet'. Jestli mi neverite, prijdte se podivat (mail first..) Taky me zaujal nazor, ze by se tento caj mohl zalevat vodou ne vrouci. Musim to vyzkouset. Diky za inspiraci. Mejte se fajn. Michal mpta7488@mail.kolej.mff.cuni.cz >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Mon Oct 26 21:38:33 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA09306 for caj-outgoing; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 21:38:33 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA09303 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 21:38:32 +0100 Received: from matsrv.math.cas.cz (IDENT:kasal@math-gw.math.cas.cz [147.231.89.66]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA03419 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 21:38:31 +0100 (MET) Received: (from kasal@localhost) by matsrv.math.cas.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA05123 for caj@dione.zcu.cz; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 21:39:27 +0100 From: Stepan Kasal Message-Id: <199810262039.VAA05123@matsrv.math.cas.cz> Subject: Caj: Hojicha To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 21:39:27 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <00bb01be00f2$c44cb680$643210ac@spravce> from "=?iso-8859-2?Q?Ing._Petr_Kyjovsk=FD?=" at Oct 26, 98 04:10:22 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Dobru den, > Nejsem si jist a overim si to, ale mam pocit, ze Hojicha rozhodne > nemusi byt prazeny caj [...] v Dobre cajovne mne naucili, ze Hojicha je v prekladu ,,zlehka prazeny caj,`` tak jim verim. > (a i kdyby, s pojmem cerny to nema nic spolecneho, prazeni prece neni > fermentace). To presne tu psal Vitek Novak, shodnete se. > Prazeni caju je zalezitost makrobioticke stravy, Nejen, jak pevne doufam. Palacky pise ,,byli jsme pred Rakouskem, budeme i po nem.`` Tak nejak to asi bude s Hojichou. Kdyz jsem ji pod nazvem Kukicha kupoval v CountryLifu, tak mi nabizeli jeste listovou a smes listove s rapiky a rikali mi, ze makrobiotici doporucuji po ranu tu, kdezto vecer... Odpovedel jsem, ze me makrobiotici nezajimaji, ze ten caj chci proto, ze mi chutna. (Nezminoval jsem se o tom, ze makrobiotickou stravou si lze rychle znicit organismus, protoze tuto informaci nemam overenu a nemam cas se tim zabyvat.) > totez se provadi s Kukichou a to je jinak pekne zeleny caj. Je pravda, ze fa Mervart -- Sunfood, dodava krome makrobiotickych nesmyslu take neco, cemu ja rikam ,,Vetvickova Hojicha,`` pricemz oni tomu rikaji ,,Kukicha,`` ale to bych nepovazoval v terminologickych otazkach za smerodatne. > Hojicha je prazeny caj (dle napisu na balicku dodavaneho Spolkem milcu caje > co mam momentalne pred sebou). Navic je to caj stonkovy nikoliv listovy. Pokud vim, je mozno koupit tri odrudy Hijichy: 1) listovou -- to je, pokud vim, normalni Hojicha. 2) rapikovou -- ta je, myslim nejlepsi, i kdyz je atypicka. Je vytecna mj. proto, ze k nam cestuje perfektne zabalena. Ale ty ceny, co si Dobra cajovna uctuje :-( 3) ,,vetvickovou`` -- ta je levnejsi nez rapikova, drazsi nez listova, je rekl bych horsi nez rapikova, ale nelze ji srovnat s listovou. Je proste jina. Pripomina krizence mezi meltou a cajem, nebo mi pripomina doby, kdy jsem jako male dite okousaval drevene tuzky. Nedejte se vsak uvest v omyl, mam ji velice rad. Navic kdyz jsem si ji koupil podruhe, bylo v ni mene dreva, mozna to je sarzi, mozna tim, ze jsem ji tentokrat koupil volne sypanou, ne balenou. Rozhodne je dulezite vedet, ze mam rict, ze chci caj Kukicha, i kdyz kukicha je neco jineho. Ho ji caj, Stepan >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 27 07:43:16 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA10113 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 07:43:16 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA10110 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 07:43:15 +0100 Received: from gego.cz (ns.gego.cz [195.22.48.254]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA23144 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 07:43:14 +0100 (MET) Received: from ruml ([195.70.133.138]) by gego.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA19030 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 07:43:12 +0100 Message-ID: <000201be0175$18492200$8a8546c3@ruml> From: "Ivan Ruml" To: Subject: Caj: Re: Re: japonsky cerny caj Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:46:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz -----Původní zpráva----- Od: Dana Drexlerova Komu: caj@dione.zcu.cz Datum: 26. října 1998 13:19 Předmět: Caj: Re: japonsky cerny caj >> > >> >>Koupil jsem si caj Nefritovy prsten. Udajne se jedna o smes cerneho >> >>a zeleneho caje s kvety Osmanu. Caj je Japonsky. >> >>Vite nekdo prosim, co je to Osman? Take se mi nezda ta smes? >> >>Znate nekdo tento caj? >> >> >> _Japonska_ smes cerneho a zeleneho caje je _blbooost_. >> >> Maximalne to zelene v tom bude sencha, ale cerny caj japonci >> proste nedelaji. > > Promin, ale nemuzu s tebou souhlasit. Vyrabi se hnedy caj prazeny >a jmenuje se Hojicha. > Dana > Mila Dano Co asi je hnedy caj ?? Nikdy jsme ho nevideli. Myslis barvu. Nebude to nahodou prazena Bancha ci Sencha ??? Ale to neni cerny caj. Ahoj Ivan a Honza >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 27 09:10:32 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA10254 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 09:10:32 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA10251 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 09:10:32 +0100 Received: from sun.fsid.cvut.cz (sun.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA25250 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 09:10:31 +0100 (MET) Received: from student.fsid.cvut.cz (student.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.3]) by sun.fsid.cvut.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA02195 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 08:09:55 GMT Received: from FSICD1/SpoolDir by student.fsid.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.21); 27 Oct 98 09:09:56 MET-1MEST Received: from SpoolDir by FSICD1 (Mercury 1.21); 27 Oct 98 09:09:27 MET-1MEST From: "Jan Kasparek, student" Organization: FSI CVUT, Prague To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 09:09:26 MET-1MEST Subject: Caj: Chyba X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-ID: Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Tohle je spis funkcni dotaz. Nektere maily mi neprijdou cele jako treba tenhle: > From: "=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Jana_N=ECmcov=E1?=" > To: > Subject: Caj: Kuks... > Date sent: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:34:42 +0100 > Send reply to: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Ahojky, > mam na vas dotaz...Budou to uz asi dva roky od posledniho srpnoveho vikendu, kdy se na Kuksu konal "Festival caje"...dozvedela jsem se o nem nahodou a bohuzel jsem na nej nemohla jet. Nevi nekdo z v > > Diky Jana Na ci strane je chyba?? Diky za radu vsem. STRAKA__________________________________ Jan Straka Kasparek E-mail: kasparek@student.fsid.cvut.cz http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek Pozvanka pro cajomilce: http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek/tea.htm >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 27 09:24:14 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA10295 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 09:24:14 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA10292 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 09:24:13 +0100 Received: from sun.fsid.cvut.cz (sun.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA25848 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 09:24:13 +0100 (MET) Received: from student.fsid.cvut.cz (student.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.3]) by sun.fsid.cvut.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA02488 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 08:23:36 GMT Received: from FSICD1/SpoolDir by student.fsid.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.21); 27 Oct 98 09:23:37 MET-1MEST Received: from SpoolDir by FSICD1 (Mercury 1.21); 27 Oct 98 09:23:18 MET-1MEST From: "Jan Kasparek, student" Organization: FSI CVUT, Prague To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 09:23:12 MET-1MEST Subject: Caj: Hodnoceni cajoven, Straka X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-ID: <13AC265E1@student.fsid.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > > P.S.: Sedm bodu z peti je ponekud unahlene hodnoceni ;-) > > > > - kdyz mohl dat Straka Pardubicum 6* z 5... ?!?:-) > > Dobre cajovne v Pardubicich jsem daval 5 z 5. To je taky urceno pro > normalni lidi. A je to znacne subjektivni (pokud mohla dostat od > nekoho Sklenena cajovna v Brne 5*. > To, ze Pardubicke DC dal Straka 6 z 5, to mohl pouze jako tvurce > stranky a vyjadroval tim jen svuj nazor. Domnivam se, ze dalsich 6 z > 5 bude mozno az Straka vyrazi do vasi cajovny... > Autor by se take rad k problemu vyjadril. Je pravda, ze DC v Pardubicich dostala na zaver meho povidani o ni 6*. To ovsem nutne neznamena, ze je to bozska (ci pro bohy?) cajovna. Mozna je opravdu tak Dobra, nebo jsem mel jen stesti na obsluhu, navstevniky a spolecnost se kterou jsem tam byl. Ja si ale osobne myslim ze si sve hodnoceni zaslouzi. Problem hodnoceni cajoven je slozity. Asi vzdy bude subjektivni zalezitosti a take hodne zavisi na tom kdy, kde a s kym. Takze berte jakekoliv hodnoceni na mych strankach pouze jako orientacni a spise subjektivni. Autor je uveden, takze si to s nim muzete pres mail pekne vysvetlit. Ja sam bohuzel nemam tolik casu abych objel vsechny cajovny v CR (a to teprve zjistuju, kolik jich je:), takze se spoleham na to, co mi kdo o sve dobre vuli posle a jsem za to vdecen. Proto budte shovivavi k mym strankam i k hodnoceni na nich uvedena. To je vse k tematu hodnoceni cajoven. STRAKA P.S:Nerad bych, abychom se opravdu dostali casem k tem 50* ;-))__________________________________ Jan Straka Kasparek E-mail: kasparek@student.fsid.cvut.cz http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek Pozvanka pro cajomilce: http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek/tea.htm >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 27 10:07:33 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA10582 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:07:33 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA10579 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:07:33 +0100 Received: from gate.hob.cz (gate.hob.cz [193.179.115.19]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA28024 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:07:31 +0100 (MET) Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by gate.hob.cz (8.8.2/8.8.2) id KAA19571 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:07:30 +0100 Received: from primus.hob.cz(172.21.1.16) by gate.hob.cz via smap (V2.1) id xma019569; Tue, 27 Oct 98 10:07:25 +0100 Received: by primus.hob.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:09:20 +0100 Message-ID: From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?H=E1jek_Ctirad?= To: "'caj@dione.zcu.cz'" Subject: Caj: taky ohodnotim RE: Hodnoceni cajoven, Straka Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:09:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Pokusim se take ohodnotit. Vcera jsem byl v cajovne v Informacnim centru na nam. Republiky v Plzni. Prostredi prijemne, trochu rusne - je to I-centrum. Obsluha prumerna. Caj - nic moc (spis jeste horsi). Cena - vyssi. Vyhodna poloha, v Centru mesta jedina cajovna, ostatni jsou asi 20 minut chuze vzdalene. Hodnoceni (2*) - podprumer, 2* jen kvuli dobre poloze Ctirad > ---- > blem hodnoceni cajoven je slozity. Asi vzdy bude subjektivni > zalezitosti a take hodne zavisi na tom kdy, kde a s kym. > > STRAKA > > >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 27 10:22:18 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA10665 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:22:18 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA10662 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:22:18 +0100 Received: from atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz (atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz [195.113.31.123]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA28662 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:22:17 +0100 (MET) Received: from alfik (boo.ms.mff.cuni.cz [195.113.18.94]) by atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA30243 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:22:15 +0100 Message-ID: <005601be0194$2a5120a0$5e1271c3@alfik.ms.mff.cuni.cz> From: "Vit Novak" To: Subject: Re: Re: Caj: Re: Re: japonsky cerny caj Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:25:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.0 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz >> Nejsem si jist a overim si to, ale mam pocit, ze Hojicha rozhodne >>nemusi byt prazeny caj (a i kdyby, s pojmem cerny to nema nic spolecneho, >>prazeni prece neni fermentace). Prazeni caju je zalezitost makrobioticke >>stravy, totez se provadi s Kukichou a to je jinak pekne zeleny caj. >> > > >Hojicha je prazeny caj (dle napisu na balicku dodavaneho >Spolkem milcu caje co mam momentalne pred sebou) >Navic je to caj stonkovy nikoliv listovy. > >Petr > Hojicha je prazeny caj. Dobra cajovna ma jeho rapikovou verzi, napr. v Zahoranskeho dostanete listovou verzi. Zalezi na tom, zda se k prazeni vezme sencha (listovy caj) nebo kukicha (rapikovy caj). Lze potkat (Adventisti) i vetvickovou verzi. Oproti tomu hojichu praskovou (zaklad maccha) jsem jeste nepotkal :). Ohledne nazvu japonskych caju je u nas drobny zmatek, nebot ty obchodni nazvy vetsinou neurcuji kvalitu nebo tak neco, ale tvar/vzhled, takze to co potkate jako 'banchu' je ve sve podstate take 'sencha' - listovy caj. Pro zajimavost - krome tradicniho jap. cajoveho obradu (pouziva se maccha) je v posledni uspechane dobe stale popularnejsi 'sencha cajovy obrad', ktery postrada mnoho z formalnosti, ale pokud vim, take existuje skola, ktera se ji zabyva. Pokud kecam v libovolne casti sveho mailu, opravte mne a nezlobte se na mne. Vitek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 27 10:28:47 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA10712 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:28:47 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA10709 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:28:47 +0100 Received: from atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz (atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz [195.113.31.123]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA28761 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:28:46 +0100 (MET) Received: from alfik (boo.ms.mff.cuni.cz [195.113.18.94]) by atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA30522 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:28:48 +0100 Message-ID: <007801be0195$147ddba0$5e1271c3@alfik.ms.mff.cuni.cz> From: "Vit Novak" To: "cajova konference" Subject: Caj: Hnedy caj Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:32:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.0 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Omluva vsem. Zda se mi cim dal vic evidentni, ze pojem 'hnedy caj' jsem v Cechach zavedl ja. Jednalo se o prachsprosty, spinavy, reklamni trik nasi cajovny, nebot jsme nikdy zadny hnedy caj nevideli, a ja ho v nasi cajovne chtel mit. Tim ovsem netvrdim, ze hnedy caj neexistuje, ani to, ze jsem se netrefil a hojicha tedy klidne 'hnedy caj' v japonske nebo mezinarodni terminologii muze byt. Kadopadne se hluboce stydim, ale budu si vesele prazene caje oznacovat za hnede :) Vitek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 27 10:57:01 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA10925 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:57:01 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA10922 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:57:00 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA30464 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:57:00 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA12577 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:57:01 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 27 Oct 98 10:56:24 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 27 Oct 98 10:56:01 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:55:58 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Hojicha X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <28B59223E9D@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > Prazeni caju je zalezitost makrobioticke stravy, > > Nejen, jak pevne doufam. Palacky pise ,,byli jsme pred Rakouskem, > budeme i po nem.`` Tak nejak to asi bude s Hojichou. > > Kdyz jsem ji pod nazvem Kukicha kupoval v CountryLifu, tak mi nabizeli > jeste listovou a smes listove s rapiky a rikali mi, ze makrobiotici > doporucuji po ranu tu, kdezto vecer... Odpovedel jsem, ze me > makrobiotici nezajimaji, ze ten caj chci proto, ze mi chutna. > (Nezminoval jsem se o tom, ze makrobiotickou stravou si lze rychle znicit > organismus, protoze tuto informaci nemam overenu a nemam cas se tim zabyvat.) Cha cha, to znam, ja ji poprve kupoval (KUKICHU, ne Hojichu, to je neco jineho) ve Strakonicich ve zdrave vyzive a pani taky rikala, ze je dobra az v zime. Prekvapene jsem se na ni podival a pak s usmevem rekl, ze Kukicha je dobra vzdycky. Rekla s usmevem AHA a tim jsme skoncili. Je pravda, ze ja netusil, ze je prazena, ale i tak je dobra vzdycky. Jinak vse vytrzene z kontextu je skodlive. Pokud si budes jen tak hrat s makrobiotikou, uskodis si. Pokud se tomu budes venovat s nejakym smyslem, nic moc ti nehrozi. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 27 11:00:29 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA10971 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:00:29 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA10968 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:00:28 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA30638 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:00:28 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA13089 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:00:29 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 27 Oct 98 10:59:52 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 27 Oct 98 10:59:50 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:59:45 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Chyba X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <28B695A0127@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Tohle je spis funkcni dotaz. > Nektere maily mi neprijdou cele jako treba tenhle: > > Na ci strane je chyba?? Co pouzivas za program? Ja mam Pegase pro DOS a pokud mi nekdo napise ve Windows dopis s tim, ze nepouzije ani jednou ENTER, mam ho taky jen polovicni. U me je to tim, ze prectu jen omezeny pocet pismen v radce. A tak musim mail nahrat na disk a pak ho prectu. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 27 11:03:27 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA11019 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:03:27 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA11016 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:03:27 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA30785 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:03:26 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA13217 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:03:27 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 27 Oct 98 11:02:50 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 27 Oct 98 11:02:48 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:02:41 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Hnedy caj X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <28B76067503@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Omluva vsem. > Zda se mi cim dal vic evidentni, ze pojem 'hnedy caj' > jsem v Cechach zavedl ja. Jednalo se o prachsprosty, > spinavy, reklamni trik nasi cajovny, nebot jsme nikdy > zadny hnedy caj nevideli, a ja ho v nasi cajovne chtel mit. > > Tim ovsem netvrdim, ze hnedy caj neexistuje, ani to, ze > jsem se netrefil a hojicha tedy klidne 'hnedy caj' v japonske > nebo mezinarodni terminologii muze byt. > > Kadopadne se hluboce stydim, ale budu si vesele prazene caje > oznacovat za hnede :) Za trest rekni, o jakou cajovnu se jedna...a uz zadne triky ;-) Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 27 11:04:41 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA11066 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:04:41 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA11063 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:04:40 +0100 Received: from gate.hob.cz (gate.hob.cz [193.179.115.19]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA30858 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:04:38 +0100 (MET) Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by gate.hob.cz (8.8.2/8.8.2) id LAA19907 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:04:29 +0100 Received: from primus.hob.cz(172.21.1.16) by gate.hob.cz via smap (V2.1) id xma019902; Tue, 27 Oct 98 11:04:16 +0100 Received: by primus.hob.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:06:12 +0100 Message-ID: From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?H=E1jek_Ctirad?= To: "'caj@dione.zcu.cz'" Subject: Caj: Japan Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:06:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Mohl bys mi prosim napsat jak se tridi japonske caje? Japonske caje piju nejvice. Caje se obvykle tridi podle oblasti a plantazi, ale Sencha asi neni plantaz... Nevim o tom nic a nic jsem take nenasel na inzerovanych Cajovych strankach na Internetu :-( Trideni na listovu, broken apod. znam, protoze to je popsano vsude. Tridi se takto i Japan caje? Predpokladam, ze ne. Diky za vycerpavajici ;-) odpoved Ctirad > Ohledne nazvu japonskych caju je > u nas drobny zmatek, nebot ty obchodni nazvy vetsinou neurcuji kvalitu > nebo tak neco, ale tvar/vzhled, takze to co potkate jako 'banchu' je ve > sve > podstate > take 'sencha' - listovy caj. > Vitek > > >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 27 11:09:25 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA11153 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:09:25 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA11150 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:09:24 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA30754 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:09:24 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA13442 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:09:23 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 27 Oct 98 11:08:46 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 27 Oct 98 11:08:24 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:08:23 +100 Subject: Caj: URL Cajomilcovych stranek X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <28B8DF34B8C@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > Na jednech cajovych strankach je hodne podobna kritika DC. Takze vice > > k tomu ani nebudu rikat...a ty stranky najdes velmi rychle, mozna uz je > > mas v bookmarku :-)). Ale zalezi na nahode, nekdy tak jindy onak. > > > > Pavel > > Nerozumim. Jake jsou to stranky? Podel se o adresu. > Nejsem rozhodne odbornik pres pocitace, > takze nevim - co je "bookmark"? http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek/tea.htm Cajomilcovy stranky - hodnoceni cajoven, muzete zaslat i sve prispevky. Bookmark je soubor, ve kterem mas ulozeny sve oblibene a casto navstevovane stranky. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 27 12:36:26 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA11485 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:36:26 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA11482 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:36:26 +0100 Received: from gate.ericsson.cz (dana@gate.ericsson.cz [194.213.52.1]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA02035 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:36:25 +0100 (MET) Received: (from dana@localhost) by gate.ericsson.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA08327; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:36:16 +0100 Message-ID: <19981027123615.09336@gate.ericsson.cz> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:36:15 +0100 From: Dana Drexlerova To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: cajovy obrad + Strosmayerovo nam. References: <27882545D13@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69e In-Reply-To: <27882545D13@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz>; from Pavel Hlavacek on Mon, Oct 26, 1998 at 04:05:46PM +0000 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > Ahoj Honzo! (urceno i pro ostatni cajomilce) > > K tvemu dotazu, jestli se muze clovek dostat "nazivo" k japonskemu cajovemu > > obradu, tak te zvu na hodinu - kde se ucime caj. obrad. Je to kazdy ctvrtek > > v Navratilove ulici c.10 od 18.00h. Ja tam prichazim pred 19.00h, mam predtim > > japonsky jazyk. Muzes se podivat, jak to tam vypada a mozna i vychutnat > > roli hosta. Takze pokud mas zajem, tak mi mailni (dana@k332.feld.cvut.cz). > > Dame si tam nekde sraz (nebo v Praze, pokud tam netrefis). > To bych asi zajem mel, muzes to popsat blize? A co treba pristi ctvrtek? Pokud budes mit cas, muzem se domluvit na 29.10 v 18.45-19.00 v Navratilove ulici 10 v Praze (u Karlova namesti (metro) - musi se projit parkem a druha do prava, orientacni bod - italska cukrarna, nebo vez). > PS: Vite o cajovne U kostela. Je na Strossmayerove namesti. Pokud se jede jednu zastavku tramvaje c.1,25,8 do kopce z metra Vltavska. Je to napravo, kdyz se obejde kostel. Blizko budovy KD vltavska. Nekdy snad najdu prospekt a sdelim c.p. domu. Dana >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 27 12:56:50 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA11560 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:56:50 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA11557 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:56:49 +0100 Received: from atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz (atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz [195.113.31.123]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA02718 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:56:49 +0100 (MET) Received: from alfik (boo.ms.mff.cuni.cz [195.113.18.94]) by atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA18988 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:56:48 +0100 Message-ID: <002201be01a0$cf010be0$5e1271c3@alfik.ms.mff.cuni.cz> From: "Vit Novak" To: Subject: Caj: Re: Nase cajovna (was: Hnedy caj) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:56:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.0 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz >> Kadopadne se hluboce stydim, ale budu si vesele prazene caje >> oznacovat za hnede :) > > Za trest rekni, o jakou cajovnu se jedna...a uz zadne triky ;-) No dobre, nechtel jsem ji delat reklamu, ale snad mi to vsichni odpusti. Jedna se o cajovnu Studentskeho klubu Beta'nie, Jugoslavska 26, Praha 2. Velmi skrovne info o ni najdete na http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~novak/cajovna.html a na odkazovanych strankach. Dojem provozovatele (napiste taky nekdo nezavisly): Zakladni filosofie: Smradek, ale teplicko. (Berte obrazne) Co to znamena: Chteli jsme mit levnou, neexotickou cajovnu. Caje varime za provozni ceny (0,40 Kc za 0,4l cerneho cejlonu az cca 15,-Kc za konvicku Tamaryokuchy) otriskane nadobi z bazaru, obsluha laxni. Tomu odpovida i klientela - nemajetni studenti, kteri vetsinou v cajovne klabosi. Cajovna je soucasti studentskeho klubu, kdo to nevidel, ten si to asi nepredstavi - byt 1+1 s jednou stenou pokoje plnou knih, na druhe nastenka, pocitac, uprostred stul... Pocet mist: cca 20. Otviraci doba: v jednani, pravdepodobne ut-pa 17-20, ne 12-19. Vitek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 27 13:36:00 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA11893 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 13:36:00 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA11890 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 13:35:59 +0100 Received: from ns.felk.cvut.cz (ns.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.9]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA04704 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 13:35:59 +0100 (MET) Received: from sun (sun.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.32]) by ns.felk.cvut.cz (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA21855 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 13:35:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from sol21.felk.cvut.cz by sun (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11559; Tue, 27 Oct 98 12:20:45 +0100 Received: by sol21.felk.cvut.cz (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA04421; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 13:44:11 +0100 Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 13:44:11 +0100 From: xtregner@sun.felk.cvut.cz (Tregner Vaclav student 6_98_99 k336) Message-Id: <199810271244.NAA04421@sol21.felk.cvut.cz> To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Re: Nase cajovna (was: Hnedy caj) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Md5: XQ1yIYnDfps9d4oSwghRgA== Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz >Zakladni filosofie: Smradek, ale teplicko. (Berte obrazne) >Co to znamena: Chteli jsme mit levnou, neexotickou cajovnu. >Caje varime za provozni ceny (0,40 Kc za 0,4l cerneho cejlonu >az cca 15,-Kc za konvicku Tamaryokuchy) otriskane nadobi >z bazaru, obsluha laxni. Tomu odpovida i klientela - nemajetni >studenti, kteri vetsinou v cajovne klabosi. Cajovna je >soucasti studentskeho klubu, kdo to nevidel, ten si to asi >nepredstavi - byt 1+1 s jednou stenou pokoje plnou knih, >na druhe nastenka, pocitac, uprostred stul... Pocet mist: >cca 20. Otviraci doba: v jednani, pravdepodobne >ut-pa 17-20, ne 12-19. Dival jsem se na seznam nabizenych caju a sokovaly me ceny. To jsou opravdu ceny za konvicku? V jinych cajovnach jsou aspon desetkrat drazsi. Byva tam narvano? Vasek >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 27 14:05:53 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA15986 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 14:05:53 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA15982 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 14:05:46 +0100 Received: from atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz (atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz [195.113.31.123]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA05569 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 14:05:45 +0100 (MET) Received: from alfik (boo.ms.mff.cuni.cz [195.113.18.94]) by atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA24651 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 14:05:45 +0100 Message-ID: <006201be01aa$70ace640$5e1271c3@alfik.ms.mff.cuni.cz> From: "Vit Novak" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Re: Nase cajovna (was: Hnedy caj) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 14:05:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.0 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > >Dival jsem se na seznam nabizenych caju a sokovaly me ceny. To jsou opravdu ceny >za konvicku? V jinych cajovnach jsou aspon desetkrat drazsi. Byva tam narvano? > Nebyva to tak hrozne, zato tam je nebyvale laxni obsluha (zase - jak kdy :). Narvano tam je, kdyz je nejaky program - a pak tam vetsinou nejsou lidi kvuli cajovne. Ale ty ceny takove skutecne jsou - cena za suchy caj + drobna rezerva na ztraty typu rozsypani/sezrani mocnym molem/vycichnuti. Tedy: Obsluha zdarma, voda zdarma, elektrika zdarma, strecha nad hlavou zdarma, zadne dane ( 1)nejsme ziskovi 2)nejsme oficialni, caj varime pouze pro pratele ).... Fsechno tohle je placeno z grantu na Studentsky klub Betanie, ktery nam to bezuplatne poskytl (a je rad, ze Stivinovi, kdyz tam dela koncert, uvarime Lapsang) ... Hec, varil jsem caj Stivinovi - chtel takovej ten smradlavej, tak jsem mu uvaril Lyonsi Lapsang Souchong a byl mooc spokojenej V. >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Tue Oct 27 22:41:32 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA17563 for caj-outgoing; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 22:41:32 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA17560 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 22:41:31 +0100 Received: from conan.asysijd.cz (mailexim@server.asysijd.cz [195.75.66.161]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA21595 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 22:41:30 +0100 (MET) Received: from kol-dial5.asysijd.cz (asysijd.cz) [195.75.66.15] by conan.asysijd.cz with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1 (Debian)) id 0zYGrk-00076d-00; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 22:41:24 +0100 Message-ID: <36363D6E.B80D9404@asysijd.cz> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 22:38:55 +0100 From: Jan Bourek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Čajový Dýchánek" Subject: Caj: Kde kupovat caj? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Vazeni cajomilci, mam takovou konzumni otazecku: Kde se daji koupit kvalitni caje? Mam na mysli porovnani kvality caju z ruznych cajoven s caji napriklad od firmy Oxalis. Dokonce jsem videl i caje (Ceylon, Darjeeling, Gunpowder, Cina - smes, snad v nejakem darkovem baleni ci co) od fy Jemca Jemnice. Ptam se, zda ma vubec cenu od teto firmy kupovat. Mych par caju zakoupenych v cajovne mi pripada lepsich. Ale na druhou stranu mam od Oxalisu caj Formosa Oolong a docela mi smakuje. Rad bych znal Vas nazor i zkusenosti. Dekuji *JB* >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 29 08:08:35 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA20064 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 08:08:35 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA20061 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 08:08:34 +0100 Received: from eryx1.zcu.cz (eryx1.zcu.cz [147.228.52.12]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA04923 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 08:08:34 +0100 (MET) Received: from students.zcu.cz (uk411p02-kiv.fav.zcu.cz [147.228.43.35]) by eryx1.zcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA16143 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 08:08:34 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <36381471.BC816F52@students.zcu.cz> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 08:08:34 +0100 From: "Ing. Demeter Jurista" Organization: KIV FAV ZCU X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Kde kupovat caj? References: <36363D6E.B80D9404@asysijd.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ahoj vsem Jan Bourek wrote: > Vazeni cajomilci, > mam takovou konzumni otazecku: > Kde se daji koupit kvalitni caje? > Dekuji *JB* No pokud jde o Plzen, mam zkusenost se tremi misty, kde se da koupit dobry a vyborny caj. Na prvnim miste to musi byt prodejna caje v Prazske ulici. Prednosti: 1] Mila obsluha 2] Kvalitni a cerstve caje 3] Bohaty vyber Na druhem miste je Cajovna v Plachovce Prednosti: 1] Vyber z mene znamich caju lepsi kvality 2] Nekdy mila obsluha Na tretim miste je cajovna na Roudne Prednosti: 1] Vcelku kvalitni caje 2] Maji i cajove a necajove speciality (Schizandra, On-Chi,...) Tak to by bylo za Plzen, Prahu ani ostatni mesta nemohu posoudit, nebot jsem tam nenakupovat. Snad jen poznatek v Cajovne u vystreleneho oka (Praha 3) maji levne caje typu Earl Grey... Zdravi Mita DJ >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 29 08:54:27 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA20155 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 08:54:27 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA20152 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 08:54:26 +0100 Received: from localhost. (ns.speed.cz [212.20.64.94]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA05927 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 08:54:25 +0100 (MET) Received: from pc by localhost. (8.8.4/SMI-SVR4) id CAA13008; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 02:42:20 -0500 Message-Id: <199810290742.CAA13008@localhost.> From: "Bent" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Mate Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 08:50:09 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id IAA20153 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Velmi bych uvital radu, jak pripravit Mate v kalabasse. Navodu, ktery jsem nasel v "Cajovem listu" nejak nemuzu prijit na kloub. Rekapituluji:1/ Do kalabassy nasypte 2-3lzicky mate (pohoda) 2/Prelijte mirne teplou vodou, aby listky ziskaly pevnou konzistenci (sice nechapu proc, ale budiz) 3/Po nekolika minutach zalit vrouci vodou a 3minuty louhovat (tak asi do tehle chvile jsem se poctive drzel navodu) 4/Opatrne do kalabassy vsunte bombillu (osobne bych to nazval kovove brcko) a osvezujici napoj muzete pomalu popijet (tak tohle povazuji za povedeny kanadsky zertik) 5/Proces muzete opakovat az 5x louhovat maximalne (!) 3minuty. Tak nevim, chtel bych videt odvaznika (resp. jeho jazyk), ktery se rozhodne po 3min. vypit varici napoj kovovym brckem. Ja jsem k tomu sbiral odvahu cca 14min. (resp.muj jazyk :-). To co jsem pak ochutnal nemohu pri vsi vuli ani vzdalene oznacit za dobre. Chapu ze Mate by mnelo byt trpke, ale co je moc... Takze, bud nemam ty spravne azbestove vlohy, nebo je chyba v postupu. (Dufek uvadi louhovani Mate 12min, ale to je do nejakeho koktejlu). Cim to je? >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 29 09:01:15 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA20227 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:01:15 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA20224 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:01:15 +0100 Received: from eryx1.zcu.cz (eryx1.zcu.cz [147.228.52.12]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA06052 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:01:14 +0100 (MET) Received: from students.zcu.cz (uk411p02-kiv.fav.zcu.cz [147.228.43.35]) by eryx1.zcu.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA14647 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:01:13 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <363820C6.EF261401@students.zcu.cz> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:01:11 +0100 From: "Ing. Demeter Jurista" Organization: KIV FAV ZCU X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Mate References: <199810290742.CAA13008@localhost.> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ahojky > To co jsem pak > ochutnal nemohu pri vsi vuli ani vzdalene oznacit za dobre. Chapu ze > Mate by mnelo byt trpke, ale co je moc... Takze, bud nemam ty spravne > azbestove vlohy, nebo je chyba v postupu. (Dufek uvadi louhovani > Mate 12min, ale to je do nejakeho koktejlu). Cim to je? Ted me neberte vazne: Jednoducha rade je nepit Mate ale poctivy caj... Mita DJ >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 29 10:07:22 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA20497 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:07:22 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA20494 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:07:21 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA07599 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:07:21 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA05225 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:07:21 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 29 Oct 98 10:07:18 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 29 Oct 98 10:06:58 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:06:52 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Kde kupovat caj? X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <2BA86C37727@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Vazeni cajomilci, > mam takovou konzumni otazecku: > Kde se daji koupit kvalitni caje? Mam na mysli porovnani kvality caju z > ruznych cajoven s caji napriklad od firmy Oxalis. Dokonce jsem videl i > caje (Ceylon, Darjeeling, Gunpowder, Cina - smes, snad v nejakem > darkovem baleni ci co) od fy Jemca Jemnice. Ptam se, zda ma vubec cenu > od teto firmy kupovat. Mych par caju zakoupenych v cajovne mi pripada > lepsich. Ale na druhou stranu mam od Oxalisu caj Formosa Oolong a docela > mi smakuje. Rad bych znal Vas nazor i zkusenosti. Nechci delat reklamu, ale ja kupuje hlavne u DC, nekdy v dome lahudek U Rotta...to bude mozna prave Oxalis. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 29 10:17:47 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA20557 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:17:47 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA20554 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:17:46 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA07874 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:17:46 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA05526 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:17:46 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 29 Oct 98 10:17:44 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 29 Oct 98 10:17:29 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:17:26 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Mate X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <2BAB3891B41@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Tak nevim, chtel bych videt odvaznika (resp. jeho jazyk), ktery se > rozhodne po 3min. vypit varici napoj kovovym brckem. Ja jsem > k tomu sbiral odvahu cca 14min. (resp.muj jazyk :-). To co jsem pak > ochutnal nemohu pri vsi vuli ani vzdalene oznacit za dobre. Chapu ze > Mate by mnelo byt trpke, ale co je moc... Takze, bud nemam ty spravne > azbestove vlohy, nebo je chyba v postupu. (Dufek uvadi louhovani > Mate 12min, ale to je do nejakeho koktejlu). Cim to je? Z tykve jsem mate pil snad jednou ci dvakrat. Je pravda, ze je to pro silnejsi natury a zabere to spoustu casu, nezli to aspon trochu vychladne. Jinak v tom popisu je, ze se ma louhovat 3 minuty...a pak se sleva??? Proste si opet musis najit sve kompromisy. Davej mene listku, nebo louhuj mimo, pockej az dojde na tvou teplotu a pak to nalej do tykve, nebo... Ale jinak mate je vytecny necaj, mimochodem jeho nespaci ucinky mam na sobe dobre vyzkousene. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 29 11:05:59 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA20725 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:05:59 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA20722 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:05:58 +0100 From: LToman@zivpo.cz Received: from zp999a.zivpo.cz (ms.zivpo.cz [195.146.106.228]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA10089 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:05:55 +0100 (MET) Received: by ZP999A with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id <4X51JS1G>; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:05:39 +0100 Message-ID: <6121AED3A370D111B0BC00805FF54A39B5E482@PUEX1C1> To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: RE: Caj: Mate Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:05:38 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Ale jinak mate je vytecny necaj, mimochodem jeho nespaci > ucinky mam na > sobe dobre vyzkousene. To je diskutabilni. Zalezi na cloveku. Co se tyce nespacich ucinku, to ti zavidim. Ja se po nem 2 dny nemohl probudit a spal jsem i v chuzi... Holt na me kofein pusobi obracene... Galenius >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 29 11:15:41 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA20785 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:15:41 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA20782 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:15:41 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA10487 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:15:40 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA07507 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:15:41 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 29 Oct 98 11:15:38 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 29 Oct 98 11:15:36 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:15:28 +100 Subject: RE: Caj: Mate X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <2BBAB9969E0@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > > Ale jinak mate je vytecny necaj, mimochodem jeho nespaci > > ucinky mam na > > sobe dobre vyzkousene. > > To je diskutabilni. Zalezi na cloveku. Co se tyce nespacich ucinku, > to ti zavidim. Ja se po nem 2 dny nemohl probudit a spal jsem > i v chuzi... Holt na me kofein pusobi obracene... To je fakt zajimavy...tak schvalne, jake kdo mate zkusenosti s uspavacimi a naopak povzbuzujicimi ucinky caju i necaju (tedy treba i bilinek) ? Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 29 11:29:57 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA20846 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:29:57 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA20843 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:29:56 +0100 Received: from kiv.zcu.cz (ur404p01-rek.rek.zcu.cz [147.228.71.108]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA11007; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:29:55 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <363843A4.FA424C5A@kiv.zcu.cz> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:29:56 +0100 From: Pavel Baxa Organization: ZCU Plzen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Subject: Re: Caj: Mate References: <2BBAB9969E0@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Pavel Hlavacek wrote: > To je fakt zajimavy...tak schvalne, jake kdo mate zkusenosti s > uspavacimi a naopak povzbuzujicimi ucinky caju i necaju (tedy treba i > bilinek) ? Inu - prijde na to. Kazdy caj se podle me da udelat povzbuzujici i uspavaci. Zalezi na mnozstvi, dobe luhovani,... Ale mate jsem prestal pit, protoze me povzbuzovalo k nervozite, podrazdenosti az agresivite. Rad jsem se vratil k caji. "bilinek" - to je asi Bilinska kyselka, tam jsem podobne ucinky nezaznamenal ;-)) Pavel Baxa >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 29 12:06:27 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA20925 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:06:27 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA20922 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:06:26 +0100 Received: from okusrv.oku-cl.cz (oku-dlink-eth.clnet.cz [193.165.96.214]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA12431 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:06:19 +0100 (MET) Received: from mojtek.oku-cl.cz (mojtek.oku-cl.cz [193.165.97.135]) by okusrv.oku-cl.cz (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA28587 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:05:53 +0100 Message-ID: <007301be032c$13930880$8761a5c1@mojtek.oku-cl.cz> From: "Pavel Mojtek" To: "caj" Subject: Caj: ucinky Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:05:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz K diskusi o ruznych ucincich caje(kofeinu) na ruzne lidicky sem forwarduji zpravu.Trochu jsem ji pokratil o informace cajarum dostatecne zname. Ahoj Pavel,pekny den >Z lecebneho hlediska nejucinnejsimi latkami, ktere caj obsahuje, jsou >polyfenoly (flavonoly, flavandioly, flavonoidy a fenolove kyseliny). >Vetsina polyfenolu v caji patri mezi flavonoly, oznacuji se take jako >cajove katechiny (trisloviny). V zelenem caji mohou byt zastoupeny az >30 %. Zeleny caj obsahuje az o 90 % vice polyfenolu nez caj cerny, >fermentace totiz katechiny nici, resp meni. Katechiny pusobi jako lek >pri nekterych kardiovaskularnich chorobach, zlepsuji propustnost a >pruznost kapilar, snizuji hladinu cholesterolu a cukru. Pusobi >preventivne proti rakovine, maji protibakterialni a pritivirove >ucinky, vykazuji antioxidacni vlastnosti a literatura podava jeste >mnoho dalsich zajimavych ucinku. > >Dalsi skupinou latek v caji jsou alkaloidy, kofein (3 - 5 %), >theobromin (0,1 %) a theofylin (0,02 %). Zejmena diky kofeinu se caj >stal oblibenym stimulantem, nebot kofein povzbuzuje cely organismus, >zejmena cinnost mozku. Cajovemu kofeinu se drive rikalo thein. >Nejspise proto, aby diky kofeinu nebyl caj hazen do jednoho pytle se >skodlivou kavou. Jedna se ale o identicke latky, takze kofein a thein >jsou dva nazvy pro jednu a tutez vec. > >To ale neznamena, ze caj pusobi v lidskem tele stejne destruktivne >jako kava. Ucinek caje neni tak destruktivni jako ucinek kavy, a to >vzdor vyssimu obsahu kofeinu, ktereho kavova zrna obsahuji asi jen 2,5 >%, pricemz se prazenim jeste snizi. Setrnejsi dopad caje na lidske >zdravi nutno pricitat dalsim komplexum latek, ktere caj obsahuje a >ktere ucinek alkaloidu kofeinu vyvazuji, kompenzuji nebo blokuji. >(Kofein z kavy take prechazi do roztoku snadneji nez kofein z caje.) > >Nejvice kofeinu obsahuji koncove listecky a pupeny. Napr. ve stonku je >ctyrikrat mene kofeinu nez v koncovem listecku. Proto Japonci, >makrobiotikove a mnozi dalsi s oblibou piji caj Bancha (tuhe a velke >listy), Hojicha (oprazene rapiky) a Genmaicha (Bancha nebo Hojicha s >prazenou ryzi). Rovnez varem se mnozstvi kofeinu snizuje, nebot kofein >vyprchava. > >Kofein je stimulativni alkaloid, zvysuje pozornost, zrychluje reakce, >zlepsuje naladu, a pusobi tedy vice na sympatikus, coz je ucinek yang. >Ve velkych davkach muze vyvolat uzkost, zmatenost, nervozitu, >nespavost aj. Ovsem nejenom ve velkych davkach, ale take u osob, u >nichz jsou reakce sympatiku jaksi v prevaze. Tato prevaha byva >castejsi u muzu (yang), casto se snoubi s poruchami erekce a rychlym >startem ejakulace. > >Nekterym osobam zkratka staci k vyvolani neklidu ci uzkosti jedna kava >nebo caj. Mnoho lidi tak po kave nebo caji uziva sve oblibene a >nepostradatelne trankvilizery. Pusobeni na sympatikus tez vysvetluje, >proc nektere osoby s prevahou parasympatiku, vetsinou zeny (yin), po >vecerni kave nebo caji klidne spi, zatimco jinym pracuje v hlave >nekolik televiznich programu soucasne. > >Obsah kofeinu v 1 salku napoje (mg) >Kava espreso 60 - 90 >Prekapavana kava 60 - 180 >Cerny caj 25 - 110 >Caj oolong 12 - 55 (zlutozeleny, castecne fermentovany) >Zeleny caj 6 -16 > >A co rika o caji tradicni cinska medicina (TCM)? Caj ma nahorklou a >sladkou chut a chladnou povahu. Pusobi na meridiany (drahy) srdce, >jater, zlucniku, tlusteho streva a zaludku. Nektere prameny udavaji >tez pusobeni na drahu plic. Caj osvezuje mysl a oci, ulevuje od zizne, >pomaha traveni, je mocopudny a vykazuje detoxikacni ucinky. Zeleny caj >ma chladnejsi povahu nez cerny. Silny caj pri nadbytecnem uzivani >zpusobuje zahleneni. > >TCM vyuziva caj, vetsinou zeleny, jako lek. Pri nemocech zpusobenych >utokem vetru a horka v horni casti tela, jez byvaji spojeny s celkovou >slabosti, bolestmi hlavy a bolestmi v ocich, uziva se cajovy nalev bud >samostatne nebo s dalsimi bylinami. Pri zizni zpusobene letnim horkem >uziva se cajovy nalev nebo zeleny caj spolu se svestkami. > >Pravidelna konzumace vetsiho mnozstvi caje muze vest k vycerpanosti >organismu a k vaznemu nedostatku cchi. U tezkych pijaku caje se mohou >objevit krecove zily. U nekterych profesionalnich ochutnavacu caje se >objevuji tzv. paralyzy ochutnavacu caje. Jsou to castecna ochrnuti, >ktera jsou podle TCM zpusobena stagnaci hlenu, ktery blokuje >pruchodnost meridianu. Ochutnavaci caje maji take vetsinou hluboko >rozpraskane jazyky, coz je podle TCM zpusobeno tim, ze caj poskozuje >yin zaludku. Lide, kteri trpi nespavosti, zaludecnimi vredy a maji >sklon ke krecovym zilam, by se meli piti caje vystrihat. Stejne tak >lide trpici neklidem nebo uzkostmi, hysterikove, hysterky a vsichni >lide, kteri uzivaji trankvilizery. > >A jeste se musim zminit o tom, ze vyrazny lecebny efekt ma take piti >horke vody, ktere je oblibene napr. v Tibetu. Piti horke vody, jejiz >teplota musi byt takova, aby jeji piti bylo prijemne, velmi posiluje >vnitrni organy, a nasli bychom pro ne tak velmi malo kontraindikaci, >predevsim extremnich stavu horka, ze je zbytecne se jimi zabyvat. > >Tibetane jsou take konzumenty tzv. tibetskeho caje s maslem vyrobenym >z mleka yaku. Tento caj nevznikl z chutove libovule Tibetanu, ale >proto, ze dava mnoho tepla v tamejsich chladnych podminkach. Micha se >s cajem v pomeru az 1 : 1, a prumerny Tibetan jej vypije denne az sest >hrnecku. Nase evropske poucky o nebezpeci cholesterolu v masle zrejme >nepocitaji s tim, ze horke maslo v emulzi se v tele chova zcela jinak >nez studene maslo z lednice nakrajene a rozdrobene na chleba. A radeji >se uz jen kratce zminim o tom, ze Tibetane uvedomele pouzivaji maslo >stare mnoho mesicu, nekdy dokonce let. > >Tak tedy dobrou chut, a vseho dobreho pomalu! >Lenka Volmova > >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 29 12:22:33 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA21007 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:22:33 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA21004 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:22:32 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA12962 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:22:32 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA09226 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:22:33 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 29 Oct 98 12:22:30 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 29 Oct 98 12:22:01 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:21:58 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: ucinky X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <2BCC6F52237@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > K diskusi o ruznych ucincich caje(kofeinu) na ruzne lidicky > sem forwarduji zpravu.Trochu jsem ji pokratil o informace > cajarum dostatecne zname. Skvele a chvalihodne :-) > >Pravidelna konzumace vetsiho mnozstvi caje muze vest k vycerpanosti > >organismu a k vaznemu nedostatku cchi. U tezkych pijaku caje se mohou > >objevit krecove zily. U nekterych profesionalnich ochutnavacu caje se > >objevuji tzv. paralyzy ochutnavacu caje. Jsou to castecna ochrnuti, > >ktera jsou podle TCM zpusobena stagnaci hlenu, ktery blokuje > >pruchodnost meridianu. Ochutnavaci caje maji take vetsinou hluboko > >rozpraskane jazyky, coz je podle TCM zpusobeno tim, ze caj poskozuje > >yin zaludku. To je fakt, proto taky vetsina ochutnavacu caj nepije, jen povali a vyplivne do specialni nadoby. Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 29 12:25:31 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA21037 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:25:31 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA21034 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:25:30 +0100 Received: from mars.fsv.cvut.cz (mars.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.26]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA13251 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:25:30 +0100 (MET) Received: from geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (GEODESIE.fsv.cvut.cz [147.32.129.77]) by mars.fsv.cvut.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA09343 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:25:31 +0100 Received: from GEODESIE/SpoolDir by geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 29 Oct 98 12:25:29 +100 Received: from SpoolDir by GEODESIE (Mercury 1.31); 29 Oct 98 12:24:59 +100 From: "Pavel Hlavacek" To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:24:50 +100 Subject: Re: Caj: Mate X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-ID: <2BCD3A064C4@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Inu - prijde na to. Kazdy caj se podle me da udelat povzbuzujici > i uspavaci. Zalezi na mnozstvi, dobe luhovani,... > Ale mate jsem prestal pit, protoze me povzbuzovalo k nervozite, > podrazdenosti az agresivite. Rad jsem se vratil k caji. > > "bilinek" - to je asi Bilinska kyselka, tam jsem podobne ucinky > nezaznamenal ;-)) Jo, mateova hyperaktivita...to znam. Ale v mensim mnozstvi je to stejne dobry caj...i kdyz uz ho nekupuju. Jinak bilinky...to je mnoho let ceskeho pravopisu nazpet...takze se omlouvam, slo samozrejme o "bylinky". Pavel mail://hlavacek@geodesie.fsv.cvut.cz >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 29 12:38:06 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA21101 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:38:06 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA21098 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:38:06 +0100 Received: from sun.fsid.cvut.cz (sun.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.4]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA13769 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:38:05 +0100 (MET) Received: from student.fsid.cvut.cz (student.fsid.cvut.cz [147.32.160.3]) by sun.fsid.cvut.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA19869 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:37:58 GMT Received: from FSICD1/SpoolDir by student.fsid.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.21); 29 Oct 98 12:37:57 MET-1MEST Received: from SpoolDir by FSICD1 (Mercury 1.21); 29 Oct 98 12:37:42 MET-1MEST From: "Jan Kasparek, student" Organization: FSI CVUT, Prague To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:37:38 MET-1MEST Subject: Caj: Prednaska o caji X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-ID: <3479DF4942@student.fsid.cvut.cz> Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Ahoj vsichni, ale hlavne prazaci!! Pro ty, kteri nenavstevuji pravidelne Cajomilcovy stranky na Internetu male upozorneni zde v mailgroupu. Dne 4.11.1998 by se podle neoverenych informaci mela konat prednaska pana O.W.Dufka a to jak jinak nez o caji. Pokud ano, tak bude v cajovne U mesicni kocky (opet viz stranky) od 16 hodin. Tuto informaci jsem ziskal asi pred 1.5 mesicem primo od pana Dufka s tim, ze je to velice pravdepodobne. Takze bych rekl, ze ti co se tam pujdou podivat nebudou zas az tak moc riskovat. V nejhorsim pripade se podivate do nove cajovny a date si nejaky ten svuj oblibeny cajicek. Tak doufam, ze vas tam potkam. Poznavaci znameni: na viditelnem miste pytlik s libovolnym cajem. Tesim se, STRAKA __________________________________ Jan Straka Kasparek E-mail: kasparek@student.fsid.cvut.cz http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek Pozvanka pro cajomilce: http://student.fsid.cvut.cz/~kasparek/tea.htm >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 29 12:45:41 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA21144 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:45:41 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA21141 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:45:40 +0100 Received: from okusrv.oku-cl.cz (oku-dlink-eth.clnet.cz [193.165.96.214]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA14048 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:45:19 +0100 (MET) Received: from mojtek.oku-cl.cz (mojtek.oku-cl.cz [193.165.97.135]) by okusrv.oku-cl.cz (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA28780 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:45:14 +0100 Message-ID: <000c01be0331$931d3bc0$8761a5c1@mojtek.oku-cl.cz> From: "Pavel Mojtek" To: Subject: Re: Re: Caj: ucinky Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:45:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz >> >objevit krecove zily. U nekterych profesionalnich ochutnavacu caje se >> >objevuji tzv. paralyzy ochutnavacu caje. Jsou to castecna ochrnuti, >> >ktera jsou podle TCM zpusobena stagnaci hlenu, ktery blokuje > To je fakt, proto taky vetsina ochutnavacu caj nepije, jen povali a >vyplivne do specialni nadoby. >Pavel Jojo taky jsem na to reagoval,a ten rozpraskany jazyk by podle meho mohl byt od toho ,ze oni zrejme ochutnavaji caj velmi horky(aspon podle popisu postupu jaky jsem cetl) Ahoj Pavel,pekny den >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 29 19:49:08 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA22363 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 19:49:08 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA22358 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 19:49:07 +0100 Received: from localhost. (ns.speed.cz [212.20.64.94]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA25715 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 19:49:06 +0100 (MET) Received: from pc by localhost. (8.8.4/SMI-SVR4) id NAA24719; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 13:37:08 -0500 Message-Id: <199810291837.NAA24719@localhost.> From: "Bent" To: Subject: Re: Caj: Mate Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 19:37:44 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dione.zcu.cz id TAA22359 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz > Z tykve jsem mate pil snad jednou ci dvakrat. Je pravda, ze je to pro > silnejsi natury a zabere to spoustu casu, nezli to aspon trochu vychladne. > Jinak v tom popisu je, ze se ma louhovat 3 minuty...a pak se sleva??? > Proste si opet musis najit sve kompromisy. Davej mene listku, nebo louhuj > mimo, pockej az dojde na tvou teplotu a pak to nalej do tykve, nebo... > Ale jinak mate je vytecny necaj, mimochodem jeho nespaci ucinky mam na > sobe dobre vyzkousene. > > Pavel V tom popisu je, ze pak se ma pomalu popijet (z kalabassy). Ta ovsem vyborne drzi teplotu, takze to nejde. V popisu byly take 3lzicky na kalabassu. Nekdo mi puvodne radil at tam dam 1/3 nebo rovnou pulku tykve - to by mi trvale zmenilo tvar obliceje :-) Ono to vlastne neni trpke, ale horke a horkne to s dobou louhovani. Asi to opravdu pripravim do konve a pak to sleji do tykve chladnejsi. Doufam, ze se to da pit i studene. Michael >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Thu Oct 29 21:26:48 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA22578 for caj-outgoing; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 21:26:48 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA22575 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 21:26:47 +0100 Received: from conan.asysijd.cz (mailexim@server.asysijd.cz [195.75.66.161]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA26953 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 21:26:44 +0100 (MET) Received: from kol-dial12.asysijd.cz (asysijd.cz) [195.75.66.22] by conan.asysijd.cz with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1 (Debian)) id 0zYyeV-00025m-00; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 21:26:39 +0100 Message-ID: <3638CEE0.42BA8F6@asysijd.cz> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 21:24:01 +0100 From: Jan Bourek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Čajový Dýchánek" Subject: Caj: Bila opicka Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Vazeni cajomilci, vcera jsem si v cajovne Setkani v Koline dal caj Bila opicka. Byl naprosto delikatni a ja bych se o nem chtel dozvedet neco vice. Projezdil jsem vsechny cajove stranky CZ a pak i mimo CZ ale vubec nikde jsem nenasel odkaz nebo slovo White monkey. Nemohl by me (a taky cely Cajovy dychanek) nekdo z Vas zkusenejsich obinformovat o teto skvostne zalezitosti? Urcite musi mit nejake originalni jmeno atd. Caj byl vicenalevovy, zeleny a mam takovy pocit ze cinsky. Tot veskere me udaje (zatim, jeste jdu surfovat a hledat). Ahoj *JB* >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Fri Oct 30 10:40:59 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA24037 for caj-outgoing; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 10:40:59 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA24034 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 10:40:58 +0100 Received: from okusrv.oku-cl.cz (oku-dlink-eth.clnet.cz [193.165.96.214]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA05692 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 10:40:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from mojtek.oku-cl.cz (mojtek.oku-cl.cz [193.165.97.135]) by okusrv.oku-cl.cz (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA06219 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:40:24 +0100 Message-ID: <000f01be03e9$41dcb840$8761a5c1@mojtek.oku-cl.cz> From: "Pavel Mojtek" To: "caj" Subject: Caj: J.Kamel Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 10:39:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01BE03F1.A249CDA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz Toto je zpráva ve formátu MIME obsahující několik částí. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BE03F1.A249CDA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ted jsem si nahodou vsiml: 18.50 Kdo je ... Georg J. Kamel Portr=E9t brn=ECnsk=E9ho rod=E1ka, po n=ECm=BE se dodnes jmenuj=ED = kv=ECtiny - kam=E9lie. Tedy nevim jestli tam bude neco o cajovniku,ale treba to nekoho zaujme Ahoj Pavel,pekny den ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BE03F1.A249CDA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ted jsem si nahodou = vsiml:
18.50 Kdo je ... Georg J.=20 Kamel
Portrét brn=ECnského rodáka, po = n=ECm=BE se dodnes=20 jmenují kv=ECtiny - kamélie.
 
Tedy nevim jestli tam bude neco o cajovniku,ale = treba to=20 nekoho zaujme
Ahoj Pavel,pekny = den
------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BE03F1.A249CDA0-- >From owner-caj@dione.zcu.cz Fri Oct 30 11:54:14 1998 Received: (from postmaster@localhost) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA24223 for caj-outgoing; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:54:14 +0100 Received: from ori.zcu.cz (ori.zcu.cz [147.228.52.11]) by dione.zcu.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA24220 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:54:13 +0100 Received: from fw.pvt.cz (fw.pvt.cz [194.149.101.194]) by ori.zcu.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA07894 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:53:26 +0100 (MET) Received: by fw.pvt.cz; (5.65v4.0/1.3/10May95) id AA06348; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:52:53 +0100 Received: from p70w12.brn.pvt.cz (p70w12.brn.pvt.cz [172.17.41.62]) by mh.pvt.cz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA17125 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:52:44 +0100 (MET) Received: from home (petrbm.brn.pvt.cz [172.17.41.210]) by p70w12.brn.pvt.cz with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.1960.3) id V49VZP42; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:52:49 +0100 From: "Petr Buchmaier" To: Subject: Caj: RE: J.Kamel Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:51:45 +0100 Message-Id: <000501be03f3$4a132ee0$d22911ac@home.brn.pvt.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE03FB.ABD796E0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000f01be03e9$41dcb840$8761a5c1@mojtek.oku-cl.cz> X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-student@dione.zcu.cz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: caj@dione.zcu.cz This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE03FB.ABD796E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dnes 30.10. na CT 2 v 18:50 porad Kdo je ... Georg J. Kamel (Premiéra - připravilo Brno - opakování 4.11./ČT2 a 5.11./ČT1) Portrét brněnského rodáka, po němž se dodnes jmenují květiny - kamélie. Režie V. Staňková Petr -----Original Message----- From: Pavel Mojtek [mailto:mojtek@oku-cl.cz] Sent: Friday, October 30, 1998 10:40 AM To: caj Subject: Caj: J.Kamel Ted jsem si nahodou vsiml: 18.50 Kdo je ... Georg J. Kamel Portrét brněnského rodáka, po němž se dodnes jmenují květiny - kamélie. Tedy nevim jestli tam bude neco o cajovniku,ale treba to nekoho zaujme Ahoj Pavel,pekny den ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE03FB.ABD796E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dnes 30.10. na CT=20 2
 
v 18:50 = porad=20
 
Kdo je ... Georg J. Kamel=20
(Premiéra - = p=F8ipravilo Brno=20 -=20 opakování 4.11./=C8T2 a = 5.11./=C8T1)=20 Portrét brn=ECnského rodáka, po n=ECm=BE se dodnes=20 jmenují kv=ECtiny - kamélie. Re=BEie V. Sta=F2ková
Petr
 
 
 -----Original = Message-----
From: Pavel=20 Mojtek [mailto:mojtek@oku-cl.cz]
Sent: Friday, October 30, = 1998=20 10:40 AM
To: caj
Subject: Caj:=20 J.Kamel

Ted jsem si nahodou = vsiml:
18.50 Kdo je ... Georg J.=20 Kamel
Portrét brn=ECnského rodáka, po = n=ECm=BE se=20 dodnes jmenují kv=ECtiny - kamélie.
 
Tedy nevim jestli tam bude neco o cajovniku,ale = treba to=20 nekoho zaujme
Ahoj Pavel,pekny=20 den
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